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gtkmm 2.18 Windows installer?

by Armin Burgmeier :: Rate this Message:

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Is anyone keen on a Windows installer for gtkmm 2.18? There is no GTK+
bundle yet, and Tor Lillqvist, the GTK+ Win32 maintainer, says this is
because GTK+ 2.18 is still quite buggy on Windows (e.g. does not support
the native Windows theme). As there are invidual zip packages for GTK+
2.18 I can still create an installer if people think we/they need one. I
think it's not too useful at the moment.

Armin

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Re: gtkmm 2.18 Windows installer?

by Murray Cumming :: Rate this Message:

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On Wed, 2009-10-21 at 19:14 +0200, Armin Burgmeier wrote:
> Is anyone keen on a Windows installer for gtkmm 2.18? There is no GTK+
> bundle yet, and Tor Lillqvist, the GTK+ Win32 maintainer, says this is
> because GTK+ 2.18 is still quite buggy on Windows (e.g. does not support
> the native Windows theme). As there are invidual zip packages for GTK+
> 2.18 I can still create an installer if people think we/they need one. I
> think it's not too useful at the moment.

If GTK+ 2.18 is not good enough on Windows then I don't see much point
in a gtkmm 2.18 on Windows. Unless you just want to get more attention
for that bug. What's the bug URL?

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Re: gtkmm 2.18 Windows installer?

by Armin Burgmeier :: Rate this Message:

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On Wed, 2009-10-21 at 20:33 +0200, Murray Cumming wrote:

> On Wed, 2009-10-21 at 19:14 +0200, Armin Burgmeier wrote:
> > Is anyone keen on a Windows installer for gtkmm 2.18? There is no GTK+
> > bundle yet, and Tor Lillqvist, the GTK+ Win32 maintainer, says this is
> > because GTK+ 2.18 is still quite buggy on Windows (e.g. does not support
> > the native Windows theme). As there are invidual zip packages for GTK+
> > 2.18 I can still create an installer if people think we/they need one. I
> > think it's not too useful at the moment.
>
> If GTK+ 2.18 is not good enough on Windows then I don't see much point
> in a gtkmm 2.18 on Windows. Unless you just want to get more attention
> for that bug. What's the bug URL?

This is for the theme not working:
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=598299

Otherwise gtk-demo seems to work well, though others have reported that
their applications behave badly with GTK+ 2.18.

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Re: gtkmm 2.18 Windows installer?

by Murray Cumming :: Rate this Message:

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On Wed, 2009-10-21 at 20:44 +0200, Armin Burgmeier wrote:

> On Wed, 2009-10-21 at 20:33 +0200, Murray Cumming wrote:
> > On Wed, 2009-10-21 at 19:14 +0200, Armin Burgmeier wrote:
> > > Is anyone keen on a Windows installer for gtkmm 2.18? There is no GTK+
> > > bundle yet, and Tor Lillqvist, the GTK+ Win32 maintainer, says this is
> > > because GTK+ 2.18 is still quite buggy on Windows (e.g. does not support
> > > the native Windows theme). As there are invidual zip packages for GTK+
> > > 2.18 I can still create an installer if people think we/they need one. I
> > > think it's not too useful at the moment.
> >
> > If GTK+ 2.18 is not good enough on Windows then I don't see much point
> > in a gtkmm 2.18 on Windows. Unless you just want to get more attention
> > for that bug. What's the bug URL?
>
> This is for the theme not working:
> https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=598299
>
> Otherwise gtk-demo seems to work well, though others have reported that
> their applications behave badly with GTK+ 2.18.

But without filing bugs?

It sounds like a gtkmm 2.18 installer would indeed be useful, and it
sounds like Tor should be encouraged to do a GTK+ installer. That would
mean that we all had the same stuff to work with, so we could get some
real information about those bugs.

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Re: gtkmm 2.18 Windows installer?

by Mark Roberts-10 :: Rate this Message:

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On Wed, 21 Oct 2009, Armin Burgmeier wrote:

> Is anyone keen on a Windows installer for gtkmm 2.18? [...] still quite
> buggy on Windows (e.g. does not support the native Windows theme). [...]
> I think it's not too useful at the moment.

We don't want someone new using it and then abandoning gtk on the grounds
that it's buggy. Let it be for the moment.

Mark
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Re: gtkmm 2.18 Windows installer?

by Mark Roberts-10 :: Rate this Message:

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On Thu, 22 Oct 2009, Murray Cumming wrote:

> It sounds like a gtkmm 2.18 installer would indeed be useful, and it
> sounds like Tor should be encouraged to do a GTK+ installer. That would
> mean that we all had the same stuff to work with, so we could get some
> real information about those bugs.

Mark Roberts wrote:

> We don't want someone new using it and then abandoning gtk on the
> grounds that it's buggy. [...]

The installer would have to be marked as "instable" or "buggy" or "beta"
or something. That way we can follow up the remaining bugs without letting
people stumble over it that were looking for pre-packaged, great,
100%-bugfree software.

Mark
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Re: gtkmm 2.18 Windows installer?

by Murray Cumming :: Rate this Message:

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On Thu, 2009-10-22 at 11:53 +0200, Mark Roberts wrote:

> On Thu, 22 Oct 2009, Murray Cumming wrote:
>
> > It sounds like a gtkmm 2.18 installer would indeed be useful, and it
> > sounds like Tor should be encouraged to do a GTK+ installer. That would
> > mean that we all had the same stuff to work with, so we could get some
> > real information about those bugs.
>
> Mark Roberts wrote:
>
> > We don't want someone new using it and then abandoning gtk on the
> > grounds that it's buggy. [...]
>
> The installer would have to be marked as "instable" or "buggy" or "beta"
> or something. That way we can follow up the remaining bugs without letting
> people stumble over it that were looking for pre-packaged, great,
> 100%-bugfree software.

Yes.

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Re: gtkmm 2.18 Windows installer?

by Jamiil :: Rate this Message:

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Yah! I totally agree with the idea of making it unstable, what an
excellent idea!

Mark Roberts wrote:

> On Thu, 22 Oct 2009, Murray Cumming wrote:
>
>> It sounds like a gtkmm 2.18 installer would indeed be useful, and it
>> sounds like Tor should be encouraged to do a GTK+ installer. That would
>> mean that we all had the same stuff to work with, so we could get some
>> real information about those bugs.
>
> Mark Roberts wrote:
>
>> We don't want someone new using it and then abandoning gtk on the
>> grounds that it's buggy. [...]
>
> The installer would have to be marked as "instable" or "buggy" or
> "beta" or something. That way we can follow up the remaining bugs
> without letting people stumble over it that were looking for
> pre-packaged, great, 100%-bugfree software.
>
> Mark
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