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Hello everybody.

I have a problem where when I copy the simple examples in the tutorial my notes come out spread from one side of the pdf view to the next. It's all accurate otherwise, but it's s-t-r-e-t-c-h-e-d out.
And not exactly as shown in the tutorial.
I've read much of the "horizontal spacing" topic in the manual but don't find my particular disorder answered.
I find it hard to believe I have to apply the steps outlined in the horizontal spacing section everytime I'd like a  normal/typical amount of spacing for my computer and for my notation (type).
I use just a Notepad text editor.
Should I be using JEdit or some other alternative?
I've researched several ways to phrase this in the search box but haven't found the key just yet.
Can anyone help get me rolling?

Thank-you.

Sincerely,

Jay

RE: horizontal spacing

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I'm sure there is a lot ways to get things stretched out.  If you are using chord mode to get chord symbols to print, and the chord has a long name something like this can cause problems:
 
c4:11+^7 c:11+^7 c:11+^7 c:11+^7
 
four quarter notes of a C add9/add#11...
 
The engraver apparently tries to space things that the long chord name can fit in four times in a measure even if you set the chord changes to only show when a chord changes or the stave changes.  I've worked around this in chord mode by putting a lot of rests in ad only putting chord symbols in when absolutely necessary.  So the above becomes:
 
c4:11+^7 r2.

and the engraver spaces things to only have to fit the chord name in once.
 
HTH



> Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 15:53:31 -0700

> From: creamtowney@...
> To: lilypond-user@...
> Subject: horizontal spacing
>
>
> Hello everybody.
>
> I have a problem where when I copy the simple examples in the tutorial my
> notes come out spread from one side of the pdf view to the next. It's all
> accurate otherwise, but it's s-t-r-e-t-c-h-e-d out.
> And not exactly as shown in the tutorial.
> I've read much of the "horizontal spacing" topic in the manual but don't
> find my particular disorder answered.
> I find it hard to believe I have to apply the steps outlined in the
> horizontal spacing section everytime I'd like a normal/typical amount of
> spacing for my computer and for my notation (type).
> I use just a Notepad text editor.
> Should I be using JEdit or some other alternative?
> I've researched several ways to phrase this in the search box but haven't
> found the key just yet.
> Can anyone help get me rolling?
>
> Thank-you.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Jay
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Re: horizontal spacing

by Kieren MacMillan :: Rate this Message:

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Hi Jay,

Without sample code, it's very hard to diagnose your problem...

But my first suggestion is to add the following line to your score  
file, right near the top (e.g., after the \version string):

     \paper { ragged-right = ##t }

If that doesn't solve your problem, please post again, with sample  
code and a more specific description of what you want (i.e., as  
opposed to what you're getting).

Hope this help!
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Re: horizontal spacing

by plasmacarwash :: Rate this Message:

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Hey Kieren,

Below are two phases. One 'before' and one 'after.'
One is what I want.
The other is what I performed by copying and pasting the code (without any illustrative residue from the colors and graphics).
I hope this helps.

From 1/5th of the way down at       http://lilypond.org/web/switch/howto       :

"...Simple as ABC":





Here is the exact code I entered (in Notepad):

{
  \time 2/4
  \clef bass
  c4 c g g a a g2
}



Here is what I got:




(Albeit scaled-down so as not to blow you away .)

Does this help?


Peace,

Jay























Kieren MacMillan wrote:
Hi Jay,

Without sample code, it's very hard to diagnose your problem...

But my first suggestion is to add the following line to your score  
file, right near the top (e.g., after the \version string):

     \paper { ragged-right = ##t }

If that doesn't solve your problem, please post again, with sample  
code and a more specific description of what you want (i.e., as  
opposed to what you're getting).

Hope this help!
Kieren.


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Re: horizontal spacing

by Kieren MacMillan :: Rate this Message:

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Hi Jay,

> Here is the exact code I entered (in Notepad):
>
> {
>   \time 2/4
>   \clef bass
>   c4 c g g a a g2
> }
>
> Here is what I got:

Considering that the picture shows a scale { c d e f g a b c },  
something is definitely wrong!  ;-)

Try cutting and pasting this into Notepad and compiling:

_____________________________

\version "2.11.30"

\paper { ragged-right = ##t }

{
   \time 2/4
   \clef bass
   c4 c g g a a g2
}
_____________________________

Obviously, replace "2.11.30" with whatever version you've installed.

Hope this helps!
Kieren.


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RE: horizontal spacing

by plasmacarwash :: Rate this Message:

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Ed,

I haven't got to this point with the guitar yet but it looks delicious.

Still this is one for an August "Ed Ardzinski" search in the near future here at Nabble/Lilypond.

Thank-you very very much...

Jay Peek


Ed Ardzinski wrote:
I'm sure there is a lot ways to get things stretched out.  If you are using chord mode to get chord symbols to print, and the chord has a long name something like this can cause problems:
 
c4:11+^7 c:11+^7 c:11+^7 c:11+^7
 
four quarter notes of a C add9/add#11...
 
The engraver apparently tries to space things that the long chord name can fit in four times in a measure even if you set the chord changes to only show when a chord changes or the stave changes.  I've worked around this in chord mode by putting a lot of rests in ad only putting chord symbols in when absolutely necessary.  So the above becomes:
 
c4:11+^7 r2.and the engraver spaces things to only have to fit the chord name in once.
 
HTH



> Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 15:53:31 -0700> From: creamtowney@yahoo.com> To: lilypond-user@gnu.org> Subject: horizontal spacing> > > Hello everybody.> > I have a problem where when I copy the simple examples in the tutorial my> notes come out spread from one side of the pdf view to the next. It's all> accurate otherwise, but it's s-t-r-e-t-c-h-e-d out.> And not exactly as shown in the tutorial.> I've read much of the "horizontal spacing" topic in the manual but don't> find my particular disorder answered.> I find it hard to believe I have to apply the steps outlined in the> horizontal spacing section everytime I'd like a normal/typical amount of> spacing for my computer and for my notation (type).> I use just a Notepad text editor.> Should I be using JEdit or some other alternative?> I've researched several ways to phrase this in the search box but haven't> found the key just yet.> Can anyone help get me rolling?> > Thank-you.> > Sincerely,> > Jay> -- > View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/horizontal-spacing-tf4344766.html#a12377970> Sent from the Gnu - Lilypond - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.> > > > _______________________________________________> lilypond-user mailing list> lilypond-user@gnu.org> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
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Re: horizontal spacing

by plasmacarwash :: Rate this Message:

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Kieren,

Without replacing my current version (version "2.10.0"), I got a pretty happy result.
(This image is shrunk again, intentionally).






I will have to get familiar with "ragged" and it's manifestations.

Thank-you very kindly,

Jay




Kieren MacMillan wrote:
Hi Jay,

> Here is the exact code I entered (in Notepad):
>
> {
>   \time 2/4
>   \clef bass
>   c4 c g g a a g2
> }
>
> Here is what I got:

Considering that the picture shows a scale { c d e f g a b c },  
something is definitely wrong!  ;-)

Try cutting and pasting this into Notepad and compiling:

_____________________________

\version "2.11.30"

\paper { ragged-right = ##t }

{
   \time 2/4
   \clef bass
   c4 c g g a a g2
}
_____________________________

Obviously, replace "2.11.30" with whatever version you've installed.

Hope this helps!
Kieren.


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