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by Paul Cowan-7
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Hi,
We are pleased to announce hornget going live http://www.hornget.net We have a windows service that builds selected .net OSS projects and resolves their dependencies once a day and makes them available for download. Thoughts? We need contributors and input to keep this initiative going. Cheers Paul Cowan Cutting-Edge Solutions (Scotland) http://thesoftwaresimpleton.blogspot.com/ |
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Re: hornget
by JP Toto
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Paul,
First, congratulations on getting this project out the door! My mind is racing because I've been working on this exact issue for a few months and only today learned about Horn. I've got lots of questions, comments, and feedback but instead of vomiting all over the alt.net group I'm going to watch your DSL talk, read through the Horn groups, and chime in there. Thanks! Nice work! On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 5:40 AM, Paul Cowan <dagda1@...> wrote: > > > Hi, > > We are pleased to announce hornget going live > > http://www.hornget.net > > We have a windows service that builds selected .net OSS projects and > resolves their dependencies once a day and makes them available for > download. > > Thoughts? > > We need contributors and input to keep this initiative going. > > Cheers > > Paul Cowan > > Cutting-Edge Solutions (Scotland) > > http://thesoftwaresimpleton.blogspot.com/ > > > -- JP Toto | james.p.toto@... ] Business: http://www.cognisit.com ] Personal: http://www.viceclown.com | http://twitter.com/jptoto ] Projects: http://www.barcampphilly.org | http://phillyalt.net "To understand recursion, you must first understand recursion." |
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RE: hornget
by Charlie Poole
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Hi,
Does Horn rely solely on it's own repository, or does it enable folks to use other repositories that provide the same format, as is done in Linux? Charlie _____ From: altdotnet@... [mailto:altdotnet@...] On Behalf Of JP Toto Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2009 9:07 AM To: altdotnet@... Subject: Re: [altdotnet] hornget Paul, First, congratulations on getting this project out the door! My mind is racing because I've been working on this exact issue for a few months and only today learned about Horn. I've got lots of questions, comments, and feedback but instead of vomiting all over the alt.net group I'm going to watch your DSL talk, read through the Horn groups, and chime in there. Thanks! Nice work! On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 5:40 AM, Paul Cowan <dagda1@...> wrote: Hi, We are pleased to announce hornget going live http://www.hornget.net We have a windows service that builds selected .net OSS projects and resolves their dependencies once a day and makes them available for download. Thoughts? We need contributors and input to keep this initiative going. Cheers Paul Cowan Cutting-Edge Solutions (Scotland) http://thesoftwaresimpleton.blogspot.com/ -- JP Toto | james.p.toto@... ] Business: http://www.cognisit.com ] Personal: http://www.viceclown.com | http://twitter.com/jptoto ] Projects: http://www.barcampphilly.org | http://phillyalt.net "To understand recursion, you must first understand recursion." |
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Re: hornget
by Paul Cowan-7
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At this minute in time it pulls the descriptors of build information from
here: http://github.com/dagda1/hornget It would easy to point at a different url. Cheers Paul Cowan Cutting-Edge Solutions (Scotland) http://thesoftwaresimpleton.blogspot.com/ 2009/11/2 Charlie Poole <charlie@...> > > > Hi, > > Does Horn rely solely on it's own repository, or does it enable folks to > use other repositories > that provide the same format, as is done in Linux? > > Charlie > > ------------------------------ > *From:* altdotnet@... [mailto:altdotnet@...] *On > Behalf Of *JP Toto > *Sent:* Sunday, November 01, 2009 9:07 AM > *To:* altdotnet@... > *Subject:* Re: [altdotnet] hornget > > Paul, > > First, congratulations on getting this project out the door! My mind is > racing because I've been working on this exact issue for a few months and > only today learned about Horn. I've got lots of questions, comments, and > feedback but instead of vomiting all over the alt.net group I'm going to > watch your DSL talk, read through the Horn groups, and chime in there. > > Thanks! Nice work! > > On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 5:40 AM, Paul Cowan <dagda1@...> wrote: > >> >> >> Hi, >> >> We are pleased to announce hornget going live >> >> http://www.hornget.net >> >> We have a windows service that builds selected .net OSS projects and >> resolves their dependencies once a day and makes them available for >> download. >> >> Thoughts? >> >> We need contributors and input to keep this initiative going. >> >> Cheers >> >> Paul Cowan >> >> Cutting-Edge Solutions (Scotland) >> >> http://thesoftwaresimpleton.blogspot.com/ >> >> > > > -- > JP Toto | james.p.toto@... > > ] Business: http://www.cognisit.com > ] Personal: http://www.viceclown.com | http://twitter.com/jptoto > ] Projects: http://www.barcampphilly.org | http://phillyalt.net > > "To understand recursion, you must first understand recursion." > > > |
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Re: hornget
by Craig Nicol
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Hi Charlie,
At the moment, there's one master repository at http://github.com/dagda1/hornget but we have an open issue to allow other repositories. If this is something you need for your own projects, feel free to add a comment to the issue at: http://code.google.com/p/hornget/issues/detail?id=24 or join the mailing list. C On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 15:14, Charlie Poole <charlie@...> wrote: > > > Hi, > > Does Horn rely solely on it's own repository, or does it enable folks to > use other repositories > that provide the same format, as is done in Linux? > > Charlie > > ------------------------------ > *From:* altdotnet@... [mailto:altdotnet@...] *On > Behalf Of *JP Toto > *Sent:* Sunday, November 01, 2009 9:07 AM > *To:* altdotnet@... > *Subject:* Re: [altdotnet] hornget > > Paul, > > First, congratulations on getting this project out the door! My mind is > racing because I've been working on this exact issue for a few months and > only today learned about Horn. I've got lots of questions, comments, and > feedback but instead of vomiting all over the alt.net group I'm going to > watch your DSL talk, read through the Horn groups, and chime in there. > > Thanks! Nice work! > > On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 5:40 AM, Paul Cowan <dagda1@...> wrote: > >> >> >> Hi, >> >> We are pleased to announce hornget going live >> >> http://www.hornget.net >> >> We have a windows service that builds selected .net OSS projects and >> resolves their dependencies once a day and makes them available for >> download. >> >> Thoughts? >> >> We need contributors and input to keep this initiative going. >> >> Cheers >> >> Paul Cowan >> >> Cutting-Edge Solutions (Scotland) >> >> http://thesoftwaresimpleton.blogspot.com/ >> >> > > > -- > JP Toto | james.p.toto@... > > ] Business: http://www.cognisit.com > ] Personal: http://www.viceclown.com | http://twitter.com/jptoto > ] Projects: http://www.barcampphilly.org | http://phillyalt.net > > "To understand recursion, you must first understand recursion." > > > > > -- skype: callto:craignicol sip:craignicol@...<sip%3Acraignicol@...> http://twitter.com/craignicol http://craignicol.wordpress.com |
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RE: hornget
by Charlie Poole
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Hi Craig,
Sounds reasonable. Right now, I'm asking questions to decide whether to spend any time joining another list or getting connected to another project. That seems to be a theme for my life this month: lots of competing stuff. So... is the intent that one of the products of the project would be a standard format for the meta-information about software, analogous to deb or .deb-src format, but limited to .NET apps? Further question: do you see a separation developing between upstream developers and "distributors" of the software as in the Linux world? That could be mostly a good thing in my view, but it requires standards so that projects can also distribute the latest versions of software which might not yet have made it into your packages. For example, NUnit will be joining lots of other projects in providing a repository for it's own "bleeding edge" builds for Linux (initially Debian/Ubuntu) users. It would be cool to be able to do the same thing for Windows, but without needing to satisfy the integration requirements (I assume you have to have some for this to work) of the central repository. Charlie _____ From: altdotnet@... [mailto:altdotnet@...] On Behalf Of Craig Nicol Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 7:25 AM To: altdotnet@... Subject: Re: [altdotnet] hornget Hi Charlie, At the moment, there's one master repository at http://github.com/dagda1/hornget but we have an open issue to allow other repositories. If this is something you need for your own projects, feel free to add a comment to the issue at: http://code.google.com/p/hornget/issues/detail?id=24 or join the mailing list. C On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 15:14, Charlie Poole <charlie@...> wrote: Hi, Does Horn rely solely on it's own repository, or does it enable folks to use other repositories that provide the same format, as is done in Linux? Charlie _____ From: altdotnet@... [mailto:altdotnet@...] On Behalf Of JP Toto Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2009 9:07 AM To: altdotnet@... Subject: Re: [altdotnet] hornget Paul, First, congratulations on getting this project out the door! My mind is racing because I've been working on this exact issue for a few months and only today learned about Horn. I've got lots of questions, comments, and feedback but instead of vomiting all over the alt.net group I'm going to watch your DSL talk, read through the Horn groups, and chime in there. Thanks! Nice work! On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 5:40 AM, Paul Cowan <dagda1@...> wrote: Hi, We are pleased to announce hornget going live http://www.hornget.net We have a windows service that builds selected .net OSS projects and resolves their dependencies once a day and makes them available for download. Thoughts? We need contributors and input to keep this initiative going. Cheers Paul Cowan Cutting-Edge Solutions (Scotland) http://thesoftwaresimpleton.blogspot.com/ -- JP Toto | james.p.toto@... ] Business: http://www.cognisit.com ] Personal: http://www.viceclown.com | http://twitter.com/jptoto ] Projects: http://www.barcampphilly.org | http://phillyalt.net "To understand recursion, you must first understand recursion." -- skype: callto:craignicol sip:craignicol@... <mailto:sip%3Acraignicol@...> http://twitter.com/craignicol http://craignicol.wordpress.com |
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Re: hornget
by roberthking3@tx.rr.com
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Does this get the latest STABLE build of each, does it build from "bleeding edge" builds, or is it dependent on the various dependencies?
--- In altdotnet@..., Craig Nicol <craig.nicol@...> wrote: > > Hi Charlie, > > At the moment, there's one master repository at > http://github.com/dagda1/hornget but we have an open issue to allow other > repositories. If this is something you need for your own projects, feel free > to add a comment to the issue at: > http://code.google.com/p/hornget/issues/detail?id=24 or join the mailing > list. > > C > > On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 15:14, Charlie Poole <charlie@...> wrote: > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > Does Horn rely solely on it's own repository, or does it enable folks to > > use other repositories > > that provide the same format, as is done in Linux? > > > > Charlie > > > > ------------------------------ > > *From:* altdotnet@... [mailto:altdotnet@...] *On > > Behalf Of *JP Toto > > *Sent:* Sunday, November 01, 2009 9:07 AM > > *To:* altdotnet@... > > *Subject:* Re: [altdotnet] hornget > > > > Paul, > > > > First, congratulations on getting this project out the door! My mind is > > racing because I've been working on this exact issue for a few months and > > only today learned about Horn. I've got lots of questions, comments, and > > feedback but instead of vomiting all over the alt.net group I'm going to > > watch your DSL talk, read through the Horn groups, and chime in there. > > > > Thanks! Nice work! > > > > On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 5:40 AM, Paul Cowan <dagda1@...> wrote: > > > >> > >> > >> Hi, > >> > >> We are pleased to announce hornget going live > >> > >> http://www.hornget.net > >> > >> We have a windows service that builds selected .net OSS projects and > >> resolves their dependencies once a day and makes them available for > >> download. > >> > >> Thoughts? > >> > >> We need contributors and input to keep this initiative going. > >> > >> Cheers > >> > >> Paul Cowan > >> > >> Cutting-Edge Solutions (Scotland) > >> > >> http://thesoftwaresimpleton.blogspot.com/ > >> > >> > > > > > > -- > > JP Toto | james.p.toto@... > > > > ] Business: http://www.cognisit.com > > ] Personal: http://www.viceclown.com | http://twitter.com/jptoto > > ] Projects: http://www.barcampphilly.org | http://phillyalt.net > > > > "To understand recursion, you must first understand recursion." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > skype: callto:craignicol > sip:craignicol@...<sip%3Acraignicol@...> > http://twitter.com/craignicol http://craignicol.wordpress.com > |
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Re: Re: hornget
by Paul Cowan-7
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>> Does this get the lattest STABLE build
Not everything has a STABLE build. We do have different versions for example if you look at nhibernate: http://www.hornget.net/packages/orm/nhibernate/ We have the trunk 3.0 build and the 2.1. But both the nhibernate descriptors pull their castle dependencies from the soon to be deleted castle trunk. We would like to provide both but even getting to this stage with limited contributors has been a struggle and one I have started to resent :-). I am hoping if this does not get adoption then at least it will stimulate debate. You only have to look at the different versions of the boo libraries that the various OSS projects use to realise what a mess the whole thing is. Cheers Paul Cowan Cutting-Edge Solutions (Scotland) http://thesoftwaresimpleton.blogspot.com/ 2009/11/3 roberthking3 <roberthking3@...> > > > Does this get the latest STABLE build of each, does it build from "bleeding > edge" builds, or is it dependent on the various dependencies? > > > --- In altdotnet@... <altdotnet%40yahoogroups.com>, Craig > Nicol <craig.nicol@...> wrote: > > > > Hi Charlie, > > > > At the moment, there's one master repository at > > http://github.com/dagda1/hornget but we have an open issue to allow > other > > repositories. If this is something you need for your own projects, feel > free > > to add a comment to the issue at: > > http://code.google.com/p/hornget/issues/detail?id=24 or join the mailing > > list. > > > > C > > > > On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 15:14, Charlie Poole <charlie@...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > Does Horn rely solely on it's own repository, or does it enable folks > to > > > use other repositories > > > that provide the same format, as is done in Linux? > > > > > > Charlie > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > *From:* altdotnet@... <altdotnet%40yahoogroups.com>[mailto: > altdotnet@... <altdotnet%40yahoogroups.com>] *On > > > Behalf Of *JP Toto > > > *Sent:* Sunday, November 01, 2009 9:07 AM > > > *To:* altdotnet@... <altdotnet%40yahoogroups.com> > > > *Subject:* Re: [altdotnet] hornget > > > > > > Paul, > > > > > > First, congratulations on getting this project out the door! My mind is > > > racing because I've been working on this exact issue for a few months > and > > > only today learned about Horn. I've got lots of questions, comments, > and > > > feedback but instead of vomiting all over the alt.net group I'm going > to > > > watch your DSL talk, read through the Horn groups, and chime in there. > > > > > > Thanks! Nice work! > > > > > > On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 5:40 AM, Paul Cowan <dagda1@...> wrote: > > > > > >> > > >> > > >> Hi, > > >> > > >> We are pleased to announce hornget going live > > >> > > >> http://www.hornget.net > > >> > > >> We have a windows service that builds selected .net OSS projects and > > >> resolves their dependencies once a day and makes them available for > > >> download. > > >> > > >> Thoughts? > > >> > > >> We need contributors and input to keep this initiative going. > > >> > > >> Cheers > > >> > > >> Paul Cowan > > >> > > >> Cutting-Edge Solutions (Scotland) > > >> > > >> http://thesoftwaresimpleton.blogspot.com/ > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > -- > > > JP Toto | james.p.toto@... > > > > > > > ] Business: http://www.cognisit.com > > > ] Personal: http://www.viceclown.com | http://twitter.com/jptoto > > > ] Projects: http://www.barcampphilly.org | http://phillyalt.net > > > > > > "To understand recursion, you must first understand recursion." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > skype: callto:craignicol > > sip:craignicol@...<sip%3Acraignicol@...> > > > http://twitter.com/craignicol http://craignicol.wordpress.com > > > > > |
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Re: RE: hornget
by Craig Nicol
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To finish my last point, to set up your own distribution, you just need to
clone the git package tree and edit the source to point to your copy. It should be smoother, but we'll have that fixed by 1.0 if there's enough interest. Craig Sent from my HTC Hero Android On Nov 3, 2009 10:49 PM, "Craig Nicol" <craig.nicol@...> wrote: We have a .boo format to define the build instructions and metadata for each package. On the distribution side, the horn compilation is an open source tool, used to generate the packages available on the hornget site, and has patching functionality, so there's nothing stopping anyone else from setting up their own internal or global server for a specific purpose, such as a bleeding edge, or a stable repository, as in the debian world. At the moment you'd need to do a bit of spurc Sent from my HTC Hero Android > > On Nov 3, 2009 3:42 PM, "Charlie Poole" <charlie@...> wrote: > > > > Hi Craig, > > Sounds reasonable. Right now, I'm asking questions to decide whether to spend ... >> ________________________________ >> From: altdotnet@...[mailto: altdotnet@yahoogroups... > Hi Charlie, > > At the moment, there's one master repository at http://github.com/dagda1/hornget b... > -- > skype: callto:craignicol sip:craignicol@...<sip%3Acraignicol@...> http://twitter.com/craignicol h... Your email settings: Individual Email|Traditional Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID require... |
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RE: RE: hornget
by Charlie Poole
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So what are you looking for (if anything) from upstream developers?
Charlie _____ From: altdotnet@... [mailto:altdotnet@...] On Behalf Of Craig Nicol Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 2:53 PM To: altdotnet@... Subject: Re: RE: [altdotnet] hornget To finish my last point, to set up your own distribution, you just need to clone the git package tree and edit the source to point to your copy. It should be smoother, but we'll have that fixed by 1.0 if there's enough interest. Craig Sent from my HTC Hero Android On Nov 3, 2009 10:49 PM, "Craig Nicol" <craig.nicol@...> wrote: We have a .boo format to define the build instructions and metadata for each package. On the distribution side, the horn compilation is an open source tool, used to generate the packages available on the hornget site, and has patching functionality, so there's nothing stopping anyone else from setting up their own internal or global server for a specific purpose, such as a bleeding edge, or a stable repository, as in the debian world. At the moment you'd need to do a bit of spurc Sent from my HTC Hero Android > > On Nov 3, 2009 3:42 PM, "Charlie Poole" <charlie@...> wrote: > > > > Hi Craig, > > Sounds reasonable. Right now, I'm asking questions to decide whether to spend ... >> ________________________________ >> From: altdotnet@... [mailto:altdotnet@yahoogroups... > Hi Charlie, > > At the moment, there's one master repository at http://github.com/dagda1/hornget b... > -- > skype: callto:craignicol sip:craignicol@... <mailto:sip%3Acraignicol@...> http://twitter.com/craignicol h... Your email settings: Individual Email|Traditional Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID require... |
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Re: RE: hornget
by Craig Nicol
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Charlie,
I'm sure other horn developers will have their own take on this, and I'll let let chip in if they like. We would hope that the developers of each project would take ownership of their own boo files, and push back boo files for new versions, and changes on the trunk, back to the main repo, especially changes to dependencies. The horn source is available if project developers want to use it as a build tool to verify dependencies. I could see, for example, Castle could use horn to build their subprojects via dependency chains, test the compilation against new versions of NHibernate and generate the downloadable dlls. For the moment though, the most important thing we need are more boo files so we can cover more projects, so this is an appeal to anyone out there with a .Net OSS project, to add your project to the repository so that end-user developers can retrieve your project through horn. The more projects we have, the more we can understand the dependencies and conflicts between them. Craig. On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 23:14, Charlie Poole <charlie@...> wrote: > > > So what are you looking for (if anything) from upstream developers? > > Charlie > > ------------------------------ > *From:* altdotnet@... [mailto:altdotnet@...] *On > Behalf Of *Craig Nicol > *Sent:* Tuesday, November 03, 2009 2:53 PM > *To:* altdotnet@... > *Subject:* Re: RE: [altdotnet] hornget > > To finish my last point, to set up your own distribution, you just need > to clone the git package tree and edit the source to point to your copy. It > should be smoother, but we'll have that fixed by 1.0 if there's enough > interest. > > Craig > > Sent from my HTC Hero Android > > On Nov 3, 2009 10:49 PM, "Craig Nicol" <craig.nicol@...> wrote: > > We have a .boo format to define the build instructions and metadata for > each package. > > On the distribution side, the horn compilation is an open source tool, used > to generate the packages available on the hornget site, and has patching > functionality, so there's nothing stopping anyone else from setting up their > own internal or global server for a specific purpose, such as a bleeding > edge, or a stable repository, as in the debian world. > > At the moment you'd need to do a bit of spurc > > Sent from my HTC Hero Android > > > > On Nov 3, 2009 3:42 PM, "Charlie Poole" <charlie@...> wrote: > > > > > > Hi Craig, > > Sounds reasonable. Right now, I'm asking questions to > decide whether to spend ... > > >> ________________________________ >> From: altdotnet@...[mailto: > altdotnet@yahoogroups... > > > Hi Charlie, > > At the moment, there's one master repository at > http://github.com/dagda1/hornget b... > > > -- > skype: callto:craignicol sip:craignicol@...<sip%3Acraignicol@...> > http://twitter.com/craignicol h... > > > > Your email settings: Individual Email|Traditional Change settings via the > Web (Yahoo! ID require... > > > > -- skype: callto:craignicol sip:craignicol@...<sip%3Acraignicol@...> http://twitter.com/craignicol http://craignicol.wordpress.com |
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