iTunesU Integration via Sakai?

[Daniel Tyger-2]

Hi folks,

Has anyone in the Sakai community built integration with iTunesU,  passing
authentication credentials and / or course info, etc.?

If so, would you be willing to share a bit of what you did? via LinkTool?
Homegrown solution?

Has it been a rewarding project for faculty, students, and staff?
Convenient enough?

Likewise, if you examined the possibility and then went with a multimedia
server in-house / hosted, instead of iTunesU (or, in addition to), how did
that go?

Many thanks for any quick overviews, technical or otherwise...

Also, am curious of folks' single file size limit system-wide in Sakai,
out of curiousity. 20 MB? When do you draw the line to require content to
be hosted outside of Sakai, and where is it housed at your institution?

Offline is fine, too.

Cheers.

dan

Daniel Tyger
Director of Academic Computing
Antioch University
McGregor Campus B127
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[Sean DeMonner]

Daniel,


> Has anyone in the Sakai community built integration with iTunesU,  
> passing authentication credentials and / or course info, etc.?
>
> If so, would you be willing to share a bit of what you did? via  
> LinkTool?  Homegrown solution?

Yes, U-M has integrated with iTunes. Zhen Qian is the developer  
behind the integration and can provide more technical details.




> Has it been a rewarding project for faculty, students, and staff?  
> Convenient enough?

We've gotten pretty good feedback, but sometimes have issues with  
faculty who want to stream vs. download and watch large files.





> Likewise, if you examined the possibility and then went with a  
> multimedia server in-house / hosted, instead of iTunesU (or, in  
> addition to), how did that go?

There are a few streaming and other MM servers on campus that we  
don't maintain, and some faculty choose to use those services if  
iTunes doesn't meet  their needs for some reason. I think iTunes is  
the default choice however.






>
> Also, am curious of folks' single file size limit system-wide in  
> Sakai, out of curiousity. 20 MB? When do you draw the line to  
> require content to be hosted outside of Sakai, and where is it  
> housed at your institution?


We've used the 20 MB limit for several years, but have recently been  
planning to increase it to 50 MB. Of course WebDav is a way to get  
around the Sakai upload limit so it's not a hard limit. It's a more  
complex issue than is immediately apparent as student problems  
increase (download times, tying up campus printers, time outs, etc.)  
as file sizes increases. Faculty think nothing of creating a 150 MB  
Powerpoint and are puzzled when students have problems. All that  
said, 20 MB seems pretty paltry these days.

SMD.


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Digital Media Commons @ The Duderstadt Center, U-M      [phone]







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Digital Media Commons @ The Duderstadt Center, U-M      [phone]





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[Speelmon, Lance Day]

Daniel,

IU is also using the UM developed iTunesU tool and we have made some  
enhancements to it to make it more flexible.  You can find the tool  
here:

https://source.sakaiproject.org/contrib/umctx/

The workflow looks like this:

1) Instructor adds tool to their course site.
2) Instructor invokes tool for the first time.
3) iTunesU tool provisions an iTunes site on Apple's servers.
4) iTunes application is launched and directed to new iTunes site.
5) Instructor now has full control to grant various iTunes permissions  
to various roles (e.g. student) to that site.

Best, L


Lance Speelmon  [phone]
Scholarly Technologist

On Dec 10, 2008, at 6:37 PM, Daniel Tyger wrote:

> Hi folks,
>
> Has anyone in the Sakai community built integration with iTunesU,  
> passing authentication credentials and / or course info, etc.?
>
> If so, would you be willing to share a bit of what you did? via  
> LinkTool?  Homegrown solution?
>
> Has it been a rewarding project for faculty, students, and staff?  
> Convenient enough?
>
> Likewise, if you examined the possibility and then went with a  
> multimedia server in-house / hosted, instead of iTunesU (or, in  
> addition to), how did that go?
>
> Many thanks for any quick overviews, technical or otherwise...
>
> Also, am curious of folks' single file size limit system-wide in  
> Sakai, out of curiousity. 20 MB? When do you draw the line to  
> require content to be hosted outside of Sakai, and where is it  
> housed at your institution?
>
> Offline is fine, too.
>
> Cheers.
>
> dan
>
> Daniel Tyger
> Director of Academic Computing
> Antioch University
> McGregor Campus B127
> Daniel.Tyger@...
> 937-769-1865 (office)
> 937-416-2047 (cell)
>
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[Dave Ross]

Albany Med is using an older version of the tool Lance mentioned below -
which continues to work fine on 2.5.x

For us - the new features weren't worth changing anything on the limited
number of folks that use the tool.

-Dave

On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 8:47 AM, Lance Speelmon <lance@...> wrote:

> Daniel,
> IU is also using the UM developed iTunesU tool and we have made some
> enhancements to it to make it more flexible.  You can find the tool here:
>
> https://source.sakaiproject.org/contrib/umctx/
>
> The workflow looks like this:
>
> 1) Instructor adds tool to their course site.
> 2) Instructor invokes tool for the first time.
> 3) iTunesU tool provisions an iTunes site on Apple's servers.
> 4) iTunes application is launched and directed to new iTunes site.
> 5) Instructor now has full control to grant various iTunes permissions to
> various roles (e.g. student) to that site.
>
> Best, L
> *
>
> *
> *Lance Speelmon  [phone]*
> Scholarly Technologist
>
> On Dec 10, 2008, at 6:37 PM, Daniel Tyger wrote:
>
> Hi folks,
>
> Has anyone in the Sakai community built integration with iTunesU,  passing
> authentication credentials and / or course info, etc.?
>
> If so, would you be willing to share a bit of what you did? via LinkTool?
>  Homegrown solution?
>
> Has it been a rewarding project for faculty, students, and staff?
> Convenient enough?
>
> Likewise, if you examined the possibility and then went with a multimedia
> server in-house / hosted, instead of iTunesU (or, in addition to), how did
> that go?
>
> Many thanks for any quick overviews, technical or otherwise...
>
> Also, am curious of folks' single file size limit system-wide in Sakai, out
> of curiousity. 20 MB? When do you draw the line to require content to be
> hosted outside of Sakai, and where is it housed at your institution?
>
> Offline is fine, too.
>
> Cheers.
>
> dan
>
> Daniel Tyger
> Director of Academic Computing
> Antioch University
> McGregor Campus B127
> Daniel.Tyger@...
> 937-769-1865 (office)
> 937-416-2047 (cell)
>
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[Yuji Shinozaki]

We, the University of Virginia, also have our own local fork of the UM  
ITunesU tool, which is going into production next semester.

Perhaps at some point all these forks should be merged or at least  
shared...

yuji
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On Dec 12, 2008, at 8:58 AM, Dave Ross wrote:

> Albany Med is using an older version of the tool Lance mentioned  
> below - which continues to work fine on 2.5.x
>
> For us - the new features weren't worth changing anything on the  
> limited number of folks that use the tool.
>
> -Dave
>
> On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 8:47 AM, Lance Speelmon <lance@...>  
> wrote:
> Daniel,
>
> IU is also using the UM developed iTunesU tool and we have made some  
> enhancements to it to make it more flexible.  You can find the tool  
> here:
>
> https://source.sakaiproject.org/contrib/umctx/
>
> The workflow looks like this:
>
> 1) Instructor adds tool to their course site.
> 2) Instructor invokes tool for the first time.
> 3) iTunesU tool provisions an iTunes site on Apple's servers.
> 4) iTunes application is launched and directed to new iTunes site.
> 5) Instructor now has full control to grant various iTunes  
> permissions to various roles (e.g. student) to that site.
>
> Best, L
>
>
> Lance Speelmon  [phone]
> Scholarly Technologist
>
> On Dec 10, 2008, at 6:37 PM, Daniel Tyger wrote:
>
>> Hi folks,
>>
>> Has anyone in the Sakai community built integration with iTunesU,  
>> passing authentication credentials and / or course info, etc.?
>>
>> If so, would you be willing to share a bit of what you did? via  
>> LinkTool?  Homegrown solution?
>>
>> Has it been a rewarding project for faculty, students, and staff?  
>> Convenient enough?
>>
>> Likewise, if you examined the possibility and then went with a  
>> multimedia server in-house / hosted, instead of iTunesU (or, in  
>> addition to), how did that go?
>>
>> Many thanks for any quick overviews, technical or otherwise...
>>
>> Also, am curious of folks' single file size limit system-wide in  
>> Sakai, out of curiousity. 20 MB? When do you draw the line to  
>> require content to be hosted outside of Sakai, and where is it  
>> housed at your institution?
>>
>> Offline is fine, too.
>>
>> Cheers.
>>
>> dan
>>
>> Daniel Tyger
>> Director of Academic Computing
>> Antioch University
>> McGregor Campus B127
>> Daniel.Tyger@...
>> 937-769-1865 (office)
>> 937-416-2047 (cell)
>>
>>
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University of Virginia
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[Erik Froese-2]

Yuji,
I've also been modifying the UM tool. Eventually we'd like for it to cache
the iTunesU Handle for the course site in a db table. Any chance your fork
can do that?

Erik

On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 9:54 AM, Yuji Shinozaki <ys2n@...> wrote:

>
> We, the University of Virginia, also have our own local fork of the UM
> ITunesU tool, which is going into production next semester.
>
> Perhaps at some point all these forks should be merged or at least
> shared...
>
> yuji
> ----
>
>
> On Dec 12, 2008, at 8:58 AM, Dave Ross wrote:
>
> > Albany Med is using an older version of the tool Lance mentioned
> > below - which continues to work fine on 2.5.x
> >
> > For us - the new features weren't worth changing anything on the
> > limited number of folks that use the tool.
> >
> > -Dave
> >
> > On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 8:47 AM, Lance Speelmon <lance@...>
> > wrote:
> > Daniel,
> >
> > IU is also using the UM developed iTunesU tool and we have made some
> > enhancements to it to make it more flexible. You can find the tool
> > here:
> >
> > https://source.sakaiproject.org/contrib/umctx/
> >
> > The workflow looks like this:
> >
> > 1) Instructor adds tool to their course site.
> > 2) Instructor invokes tool for the first time.
> > 3) iTunesU tool provisions an iTunes site on Apple's servers.
> > 4) iTunes application is launched and directed to new iTunes site.
> > 5) Instructor now has full control to grant various iTunes
> > permissions to various roles (e.g. student) to that site.
> >
> > Best, L
> >
> >
> > Lance Speelmon [phone]
> > Scholarly Technologist
> >
> > On Dec 10, 2008, at 6:37 PM, Daniel Tyger wrote:
> >
> >> Hi folks,
> >>
> >> Has anyone in the Sakai community built integration with iTunesU,
> >> passing authentication credentials and / or course info, etc.?
> >>
> >> If so, would you be willing to share a bit of what you did? via
> >> LinkTool? Homegrown solution?
> >>
> >> Has it been a rewarding project for faculty, students, and staff?
> >> Convenient enough?
> >>
> >> Likewise, if you examined the possibility and then went with a
> >> multimedia server in-house / hosted, instead of iTunesU (or, in
> >> addition to), how did that go?
> >>
> >> Many thanks for any quick overviews, technical or otherwise...
> >>
> >> Also, am curious of folks' single file size limit system-wide in
> >> Sakai, out of curiousity. 20 MB? When do you draw the line to
> >> require content to be hosted outside of Sakai, and where is it
> >> housed at your institution?
> >>
> >> Offline is fine, too.
> >>
> >> Cheers.
> >>
> >> dan
> >>
> >> Daniel Tyger
> >> Director of Academic Computing
> >> Antioch University
> >> McGregor Campus B127
> >> Daniel.Tyger@...
> >> 937-769-1865 (office)
> >> 937-416-2047 (cell)
> >>
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