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	james blackwell? by Miles Bader-2 :: Rate this Message: Reply to Author \| View Threaded \| Show Only this Message Anyone have a handle on James Blackwell (are you here James?)? I tried to contact him about problems with sshing to sourcecontrol.net, but haven't gotten a response... Thanks, -Miles -- 自らを空にして、心を開く時、道は開かれる _______________________________________________ Gnu-arch-users mailing list Gnu-arch-users@... http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/gnu-arch-users GNU arch home page: http://savannah.gnu.org/projects/gnu-arch/
	Re: james blackwell? by Andy Tai :: Rate this Message: Reply to Author \| View Threaded \| Show Only this Message sourcececontrol.net is probably under the control of Canoncial, not controlled by James. jblack@... should be a valid address for him. On 12/22/06, Miles Bader <miles@...> wrote: > Anyone have a handle on James Blackwell (are you here James?)? > > I tried to contact him about problems with sshing to sourcecontrol.net, > but haven't gotten a response... > > Thanks, > > -Miles > _______________________________________________ Gnu-arch-users mailing list Gnu-arch-users@... http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/gnu-arch-users GNU arch home page: http://savannah.gnu.org/projects/gnu-arch/
	Re: james blackwell? by Miles Bader-2 :: Rate this Message: Reply to Author \| View Threaded \| Show Only this Message "Andy Tai" <atai@...> writes: > sourcececontrol.net is probably under the control of Canoncial, not > controlled by James. Any idea of a good address at canonical to send to? I tried contacting the "webmaster" address given on the page itself, but that bounced. > jblack@... should be a valid address for him. Yeah, that's the address I tried... :-( Thanks, -Miles -- People who are more than casually interested in computers should have at least some idea of what the underlying hardware is like. Otherwise the programs they write will be pretty weird. -- Donald Knuth _______________________________________________ Gnu-arch-users mailing list Gnu-arch-users@... http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/gnu-arch-users GNU arch home page: http://savannah.gnu.org/projects/gnu-arch/
	Re: Re: james blackwell? by Andy Tai :: Rate this Message: Reply to Author \| View Threaded \| Show Only this Message No idea. Probably try to get hold of Robert Collins... even though he does not give much attention to Arch related things any more. On 12/22/06, Miles Bader <miles@...> wrote: > "Andy Tai" <atai@...> writes: > > sourcececontrol.net is probably under the control of Canoncial, not > > controlled by James. > > Any idea of a good address at canonical to send to? I tried contacting > the "webmaster" address given on the page itself, but that bounced. > _______________________________________________ Gnu-arch-users mailing list Gnu-arch-users@... http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/gnu-arch-users GNU arch home page: http://savannah.gnu.org/projects/gnu-arch/
	Re: james blackwell? by David Allouche :: Rate this Message: Reply to Author \| View Threaded \| Show Only this Message Andy Tai wrote: > sourcececontrol.net is probably under the control of Canoncial, not > controlled by James. Right. The policy is that Canonical runs sourcecontrol.net as a legacy service, but that no company time should be spent on maintaining it. I am currently the closest thing to a sourcecontrol.net operator. So you can ask me if you have a problem. I make no promise that I will fix it, but I will at least have a look. Note that all of Canonical is currently on leave until next year. -- -- ddaa _______________________________________________ Gnu-arch-users mailing list Gnu-arch-users@... http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/gnu-arch-users GNU arch home page: http://savannah.gnu.org/projects/gnu-arch/ signature.asc (260 bytes) Download Attachment
	Re: james blackwell? by Miles Bader-2 :: Rate this Message: Reply to Author \| View Threaded \| Show Only this Message David Allouche <david@...> writes: > I am currently the closest thing to a sourcecontrol.net operator. So you > can ask me if you have a problem. I make no promise that I will fix it, > but I will at least have a look. Hi David, thanks for the response. The basic problem is that I can't login via ssh to mirrors.sourcecontrol.net (I mainly don't login directly, but rather use sftp to mirror to my archive on that machine): $ ssh mirrors.sourcecontrol.net ssh: connect to host mirrors.sourcecontrol.net port 22: Connection refused Given the nature of the error message, I suppose it could be something as simple as the ssh daemon not running... -Miles -- What the fuck do white people have to be blue about!? Banana Republic ran out of Khakis? The Espresso Machine is jammed? Hootie and The Blowfish are breaking up??! Shit, white people oughtta understand, their job is to GIVE people the blues, not to get them! -- George Carlin _______________________________________________ Gnu-arch-users mailing list Gnu-arch-users@... http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/gnu-arch-users GNU arch home page: http://savannah.gnu.org/projects/gnu-arch/
	Re: james blackwell? by David Allouche :: Rate this Message: Reply to Author \| View Threaded \| Show Only this Message Miles Bader wrote: > David Allouche <david@...> writes: >> I am currently the closest thing to a sourcecontrol.net operator. So you >> can ask me if you have a problem. I make no promise that I will fix it, >> but I will at least have a look. > > Hi David, thanks for the response. > > The basic problem is that I can't login via ssh to > mirrors.sourcecontrol.net (I mainly don't login directly, but rather use > sftp to mirror to my archive on that machine): > > $ ssh mirrors.sourcecontrol.net > ssh: connect to host mirrors.sourcecontrol.net port 22: Connection refused > > Given the nature of the error message, I suppose it could be something > as simple as the ssh daemon not running... I can reproduce the problem, I will ask the sysadmins next week about this. I am not even sure that Canonical still offers push access to sourcecontrol.net. When was the last time you were able to push to mirrors.sourcecontrol.net? Any bit of information can help. By the way, it was probably never possible for the public to log in to this system. At the very least logins were restricted using the "scponly" shell. -- -- ddaa _______________________________________________ Gnu-arch-users mailing list Gnu-arch-users@... http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/gnu-arch-users GNU arch home page: http://savannah.gnu.org/projects/gnu-arch/ signature.asc (260 bytes) Download Attachment
	Re: james blackwell? by Miles Bader-2 :: Rate this Message: Reply to Author \| View Threaded \| Show Only this Message On 12/27/06, David Allouche <david@...> wrote: > I am not even sure that Canonical still offers push access to > sourcecontrol.net. When was the last time you were able to push to > mirrors.sourcecontrol.net? Somewhere around the end of November (I see a commit on 2006-11-20). > By the way, it was probably never possible for the public to log in to > this system. At the very least logins were restricted using the > "scponly" shell. I used to login there (e.g. to fix a mistake), though I don't have a clear memory of when the last time I did so was. Thanks, -Miles -- Do not taunt Happy Fun Ball. _______________________________________________ Gnu-arch-users mailing list Gnu-arch-users@... http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/gnu-arch-users GNU arch home page: http://savannah.gnu.org/projects/gnu-arch/
	pushing to mirrors.sourcecontrol.net by David Allouche :: Rate this Message: Reply to Author \| View Threaded \| Show Only this Message Miles Bader wrote: > On 12/27/06, David Allouche <david@...> wrote: >> I am not even sure that Canonical still offers push access to >> sourcecontrol.net. When was the last time you were able to push to >> mirrors.sourcecontrol.net? > > Somewhere around the end of November (I see a commit on 2006-11-20). > >> By the way, it was probably never possible for the public to log in to >> this system. At the very least logins were restricted using the >> "scponly" shell. > > I used to login there (e.g. to fix a mistake), though I don't have a > clear memory of when the last time I did so was. I contacted the sysadmins about this problem, and will keep you informed of the developments. -- -- ddaa _______________________________________________ Gnu-arch-users mailing list Gnu-arch-users@... http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/gnu-arch-users GNU arch home page: http://savannah.gnu.org/projects/gnu-arch/ signature.asc (260 bytes) Download Attachment
	Re: pushing to mirrors.sourcecontrol.net by Miles Bader-2 :: Rate this Message: Reply to Author \| View Threaded \| Show Only this Message David Allouche <david@...> writes: > I contacted the sysadmins about this problem, and will keep you informed > of the developments. Thanks! -Miles -- "1971 pickup truck; will trade for guns" _______________________________________________ Gnu-arch-users mailing list Gnu-arch-users@... http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/gnu-arch-users GNU arch home page: http://savannah.gnu.org/projects/gnu-arch/
	Re: pushing to mirrors.sourcecontrol.net by David Allouche :: Rate this Message: Reply to Author \| View Threaded \| Show Only this Message Miles Bader wrote: > David Allouche <david@...> writes: >> I contacted the sysadmins about this problem, and will keep you informed >> of the developments. > > Thanks! It should work now. I am on vacation next week. So I hope there are no more issues. If there are, I will only be able to look at them the following week. -- -- ddaa _______________________________________________ Gnu-arch-users mailing list Gnu-arch-users@... http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/gnu-arch-users GNU arch home page: http://savannah.gnu.org/projects/gnu-arch/ signature.asc (260 bytes) Download Attachment
	Re: pushing to mirrors.sourcecontrol.net by Thomas Lord :: Rate this Message: Reply to Author \| View Threaded \| Show Only this Message Thank you, David, if I may speak for all of us. Of general interest: Obviously the I.T. infrastructure of the arch community deserves some repair -- not just re stuff hosted by Canonical but, in general. For example, gnuarch.org is also not functioning well, lately. It certainly isn't fair to Canonical to remain dependent on their (or their employees, or anyone's) volunteerism and generosity, even if we should perhaps remain receptive to it. So, perhaps the server glitch that led to this thread is an occasion to start talking about rationalizing our shared I.T. And, in the news: yes, I do actually plan to start releasing code for Arch 2.0, within some small number of days. There won't be enough there, initially, to migrate to but, for what it's worth, that's coming up and is probably relevant to the I.T. questions. My impression is that, at this point, the Arch community (as represented by, say, this mailing list) has dwindled down to just a small core of lurkers, the intellectually interested, downstream package maintainers, and a very small number of users. A sort of "embers" of the former situation. That's a great situation to be in, in the sense that there's a lot of freedom to do things like reform the I.T. infrastructure or review the priorities of "the project" etc. I hope that, collectively, we can design a paradigm of how public, open source projects should work. The stakes are low, regarding Arch, and the opportunity great: so the potential for fun is substantial. -t David Allouche wrote: > Miles Bader wrote: > >> David Allouche <david@...> writes: >> >>> I contacted the sysadmins about this problem, and will keep you informed >>> of the developments. >>> >> Thanks! >> > > It should work now. > > I am on vacation next week. So I hope there are no more issues. If there > are, I will only be able to look at them the following week. > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Gnu-arch-users mailing list > Gnu-arch-users@... > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/gnu-arch-users > > GNU arch home page: > http://savannah.gnu.org/projects/gnu-arch/ _______________________________________________ Gnu-arch-users mailing list Gnu-arch-users@... http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/gnu-arch-users GNU arch home page: http://savannah.gnu.org/projects/gnu-arch/
	Re: pushing to mirrors.sourcecontrol.net by Miles Bader-4 :: Rate this Message: Reply to Author \| View Threaded \| Show Only this Message David Allouche <david@...> writes: > It should work now. Indeed it now works. Thanks greatly for looking into it! I guess I should try to find a more proper mirroring site, but I've not seen anything else really. [sv.gnu.org is decent and has arch support except that it's project-oriented, and it's nice to have a place to put non-categorized stuff.] Thanks, -Miles -- A zen-buddhist walked into a pizza shop and said, "Make me one with everything." _______________________________________________ Gnu-arch-users mailing list Gnu-arch-users@... http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/gnu-arch-users GNU arch home page: http://savannah.gnu.org/projects/gnu-arch/
	Re: pushing to mirrors.sourcecontrol.net by Miles Bader-4 :: Rate this Message: Reply to Author \| View Threaded \| Show Only this Message Thomas Lord <lord@...> writes: > And, in the news: yes, I do actually plan to start releasing > code for Arch 2.0, within some small number of days. There > won't be enough there, initially, to migrate to but, for what > it's worth, that's coming up and is probably relevant to the I.T. > questions. So what sort of design did you end up with? My impression from before is that it was roughly going to be sort of a mix of a vaguely git-ish low-level with a more arch-ish user layer on top of it? [That would be cool ... I'm a big fan of git's basic design, and the fact that every operation is mind-blowingly fast is a rather nice change from arch (where everything is .... slow), but when I've tried to set it up to my own preferences, I could never quite get it to do the right thing... I think git is a great advance, but there's a lot that still needs to be worked out.] -Miles -- `Cars give people wonderful freedom and increase their opportunities. But they also destroy the environment, to an extent so drastic that they kill all social life' (from _A Pattern Language_) _______________________________________________ Gnu-arch-users mailing list Gnu-arch-users@... http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/gnu-arch-users GNU arch home page: http://savannah.gnu.org/projects/gnu-arch/
	Re: pushing to mirrors.sourcecontrol.net by Thomas Lord :: Rate this Message: Reply to Author \| View Threaded \| Show Only this Message Miles Bader wrote: > Thomas Lord <lord@...> writes: > >> And, in the news: yes, I do actually plan to start releasing >> code for Arch 2.0, within some small number of days. There >> won't be enough there, initially, to migrate to but, for what >> it's worth, that's coming up and is probably relevant to the I.T. >> questions. >> > > So what sort of design did you end up with? My impression from before > is that it was roughly going to be sort of a mix of a vaguely git-ish > low-level with a more arch-ish user layer on top of it? > It will take a while to fully explain, really, but yes -- your impression is still correct, as far as it goes. > [That would be cool ... I'm a big fan of git's basic design, and the > fact that every operation is mind-blowingly fast is a rather nice change > from arch (where everything is .... slow), but when I've tried to set it > up to my own preferences, I could never quite get it to do the right > thing... I think git is a great advance, but there's a lot that still > needs to be worked out.] > Sounds about right. -t > -Miles > > _______________________________________________ Gnu-arch-users mailing list Gnu-arch-users@... http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/gnu-arch-users GNU arch home page: http://savannah.gnu.org/projects/gnu-arch/
	Re: pushing to mirrors.sourcecontrol.net by Carlo Contavalli :: Rate this Message: Reply to Author \| View Threaded \| Show Only this Message On Fri, Jan 05, 2007 at 09:29:13AM -0800, Thomas Lord wrote: > And, in the news: yes, I do actually plan to start releasing > code for Arch 2.0, within some small number of days. There > won't be enough there, initially, to migrate to but, for what > it's worth, that's coming up and is probably relevant to the I.T. > questions. This is great news!! I've been a tla user for a while now, even if I never wrote on this mailing list... and I'm quite happy to hear there will be an arch 2.0. Thanks! Cheers, Carlo -- GPG Fingerprint: 2383 7B14 4D08 53A4 2C1A CA29 9E98 5431 1A68 6975 ------------- A rock store eventually closed down; they were taking too much for granite. _______________________________________________ Gnu-arch-users mailing list Gnu-arch-users@... http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/gnu-arch-users GNU arch home page: http://savannah.gnu.org/projects/gnu-arch/
	Re: pushing to mirrors.sourcecontrol.net by pullerpaul22 :: Rate this Message: Reply to Author \| View Threaded \| Show Only this Message Miles Bader-2 wrote: David Allouche <david@allouche.net> writes: > I contacted the sysadmins about this problem, and will keep you informed > of the developments. Thanks! -Miles -- "1971 pickup truck; will trade for guns" _______________________________________________ Gnu-arch-users mailing list Gnu-arch-users@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/gnu-arch-users GNU arch home page: http://savannah.gnu.org/projects/gnu-arch/