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	<title>Nabble - kde-multimedia</title>
	<updated>2009-12-16T00:11:44Z</updated>
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26809219</id>
	<title>&quot;phonon backend plugin could not be loaded&quot;</title>
	<published>2009-12-16T00:11:44Z</published>
	<updated>2009-12-16T00:11:44Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>iiit</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">&lt;div class=&quot;gmail_quote&quot;&gt;Hello,&lt;p style=&quot;margin: 0px; text-indent: 0px;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;margin: 0px; text-indent: 0px;&quot;&gt;I am not sure if am right to post my query here.&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;margin: 0px; text-indent: 0px;&quot;&gt;I think I have all the required packages installed in my system but I still get a run-time warning while running phonon music player Qt example(&lt;a href=&quot;http://pepper.troll.no/s60prereleases/doc/phonon-musicplayer.html&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://pepper.troll.no/s60prereleases/doc/phonon-musicplayer.html&lt;/a&gt;) and so the play, pause and stop buttons are shown as disabled in the application. The warning is-&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p style=&quot;margin: 0px; text-indent: 0px;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;WARNING: bool Phonon::FactoryPrivate::createBackend() phonon backend plugin could not be loaded&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style=&quot;margin: 0px; text-indent: 0px;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;margin: 0px; text-indent: 0px;&quot;&gt;
The following packages are already installed, in my ubuntu system, through the package manager-&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;margin: 0px; text-indent: 0px;&quot;&gt;libgstreamer0.10-0&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style=&quot;margin: 0px; text-indent: 0px;&quot;&gt;libgstreamer0.10-dev&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;margin: 0px; text-indent: 0px;&quot;&gt;
libgstreamer-plugins-base0.10-0&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;margin: 0px; text-indent: 0px;&quot;&gt;libgstreamer-plugins-base0.10-dev&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;margin: 0px; text-indent: 0px;&quot;&gt;
&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;margin: 0px; text-indent: 0px;&quot;&gt;and phonon, libphonon-dev, libqt4-phonon, libqt4-phonon-dev, libphonon4, and phonon-backend-gstreamer are also installed&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style=&quot;margin: 0px; text-indent: 0px;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;margin: 0px; text-indent: 0px;&quot;&gt;
Please note that I am using ubuntu 9.10&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;margin: 0px; text-indent: 0px;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;margin: 0px; text-indent: 0px;&quot;&gt;
Any help is appreciated.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;margin: 0px; text-indent: 0px;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;margin: 0px; text-indent: 0px;&quot;&gt;PS: Plz do CC your reply to me, I am not subscribed to the mailing list.&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;margin: 0px; text-indent: 0px;&quot;&gt;
&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;margin: 0px; text-indent: 0px;&quot;&gt;
Thanks,&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;margin: 0px; text-indent: 0px;&quot;&gt;Akshey&lt;/p&gt;
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26803911</id>
	<title>Amarok 2.2.2 beta 1 released</title>
	<published>2009-12-15T15:24:45Z</published>
	<updated>2009-12-15T15:24:45Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Bugzilla from lydia@kde.org</name>
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	<content type="html">Heya folks :)
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;we are happy to let you know that the first (and only?) beta release
&lt;br&gt;of Amarok 2.2.2 is out.
&lt;br&gt;Check &lt;a href=&quot;http://amarok.kde.org/en/releases/2.2.2/beta/1&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://amarok.kde.org/en/releases/2.2.2/beta/1&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;for all the nice
&lt;br&gt;stuff in it like moodbar support and help us with testing and bug
&lt;br&gt;reporting and fixing.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Cheers and keep rocking
&lt;br&gt;Lydia
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26745469</id>
	<title>Re: Phonon include header fix, once and for all</title>
	<published>2009-12-11T06:43:54Z</published>
	<updated>2009-12-11T06:43:54Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Bugzilla from thiago@kde.org</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Em Sexta-feira 11 Dezembro 2009, às 14:33:52, Thiago Macieira escreveu:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; I have another suggestion, but only based on the problems you listed.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; If it is possible to have symbolic library link in Mac, you could have
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; both libPhonon and libphonon.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; No. The HFS+ filesystem is case-insensitive. But Mac can also run on ZFS
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp;which &amp;nbsp;is case-sensitive.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; I also don't know if Apple's toolchain works with frameworks that are 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; symlinks.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;At least the case-insensitiveness helps:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;$ gcc -E -xc - &amp;lt;&amp;lt;&amp;lt;'#include &amp;lt;systemconfiguration/systemconfiguration.h&amp;gt;' &amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;/dev/null; echo $?
&lt;br&gt;0
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;$ gcc -framework systemconfiguration -xc - &amp;lt;&amp;lt;&amp;lt;'int main() { }'; echo $?
&lt;br&gt;0
&lt;br&gt;$ otool -L a.out
&lt;br&gt;a.out:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; /System/Library/Frameworks/SystemConfiguration.framework/Versions/A/SystemConfiguration 
&lt;br&gt;(compatibility version 1.0.0, current version 212.2.0)
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; /usr/lib/libgcc_s.1.dylib (compatibility version 1.0.0, current 
&lt;br&gt;version 1.0.0)
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; /usr/lib/libSystem.B.dylib (compatibility version 1.0.0, current 
&lt;br&gt;version 111.1.1)
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26744392</id>
	<title>Re: Phonon include header fix, once and for all</title>
	<published>2009-12-11T05:33:52Z</published>
	<updated>2009-12-11T05:33:52Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Bugzilla from thiago@kde.org</name>
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	<content type="html">Em Sexta-feira 11 Dezembro 2009, às 12:25:05, Allan Sandfeld Jensen escreveu:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Hi Thiago
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; I am just making sure I understand the problem.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; We currently use &amp;lt;phonon/classheader.h&amp;gt; and &amp;lt;Phonon/ClassName&amp;gt; which
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp;fetches headers from two different include directories on linux, but the
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp;same in Windows?
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;That was the solution for 4.5.0 or 4.5.1.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It didn't work.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;So I placed Phonon inside phonon (i.e., phonon/Phonon/ClassName) for 4.5.2.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; I don't understand the need for the phonon_compat, but I assume it is to
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; support Window developers accidentially using &amp;lt;phonon/ClassName&amp;gt; and
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp;expecting it to work everywhere ?
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;No. It's to get &amp;lt;phonon/phonon&amp;gt; and &amp;lt;phonon&amp;gt;. Which is a header we used to 
&lt;br&gt;have in 4.4, but had to remove due to the Phonon subdir with the ClassName 
&lt;br&gt;classes.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; The &amp;lt;Phonon/ClassName&amp;gt; form fails on Mac because the first part has to
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp;match the library-name? I guess You worked around that problem for Qt by
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp;using mixed case library-name such as libQtCore.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Correct.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; You suggest we change to lower cases phonon and entirely drop the
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;lt;Phonon/ClassName&amp;gt; form. (Btw. what is wrong with phonon/ClassName?)
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Yes. There's nothing wrong, except that it currently doesn't work on KDE. Nor 
&lt;br&gt;Qt.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; I have another suggestion, but only based on the problems you listed.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; If it is possible to have symbolic library link in Mac, you could have both
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; libPhonon and libphonon. 
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;No. The HFS+ filesystem is case-insensitive. But Mac can also run on ZFS which 
&lt;br&gt;is case-sensitive.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I also don't know if Apple's toolchain works with frameworks that are 
&lt;br&gt;symlinks.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; So rename the library, and add a link for
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; compatibility, but only do it on Mac and do it in a binary compatible way.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Linking generally would be to libphonon, but on Mac only that would be a
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; symbolic link to libPhonon. Since linking is not smoothly cross-platform
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; anyway I guess there should be no problem with Mac developers trying to
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp;link to libPhonon elsewhere.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;That would break BC on the Mac.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;No, the framework stays named &amp;quot;phonon.framework&amp;quot;.
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26742869</id>
	<title>Re: Phonon include header fix, once and for all</title>
	<published>2009-12-11T03:46:58Z</published>
	<updated>2009-12-11T03:46:58Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Bugzilla from aumuell@reserv.at</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Hi,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;On Friday 11 December 2009 12:25:05 Allan Sandfeld Jensen wrote:
&lt;br&gt;[...]
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; I have another suggestion, but only based on the problems you listed. 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; If it is possible to have symbolic library link in Mac, you could have both 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; libPhonon and libphonon. So rename the library, and add a link for 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; compatibility, but only do it on Mac and do it in a binary compatible way. 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Linking generally would be to libphonon, but on Mac only that would be a 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; symbolic link to libPhonon. Since linking is not smoothly cross-platform 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; anyway I guess there should be no problem with Mac developers trying to link 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; to libPhonon elsewhere.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I expect that to cause problems: by default, the HFS+ filesystem on Macs is created case-insensitively (but case-preserving), and thus creating such a link won't work.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;However, it's perfectly fine to install OS X on a case-sensitive HFS+ filesystem, and then this link would be necessary. So it's not so easy to decide based on the operating system alone.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Martin
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; I am not sure it is possible though, and do not have a Mac to test.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; `Allan
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26742598</id>
	<title>Re: Phonon include header fix, once and for all</title>
	<published>2009-12-11T03:25:05Z</published>
	<updated>2009-12-11T03:25:05Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Bugzilla from kde@carewolf.com</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Hi Thiago
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I am just making sure I understand the problem.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;We currently use &amp;lt;phonon/classheader.h&amp;gt; and &amp;lt;Phonon/ClassName&amp;gt; which fetches 
&lt;br&gt;headers from two different include directories on linux, but the same in 
&lt;br&gt;Windows? 
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I don't understand the need for the phonon_compat, but I assume it is to 
&lt;br&gt;support Window developers accidentially using &amp;lt;phonon/ClassName&amp;gt; and expecting 
&lt;br&gt;it to work everywhere ?
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The &amp;lt;Phonon/ClassName&amp;gt; form fails on Mac because the first part has to match 
&lt;br&gt;the library-name? I guess You worked around that problem for Qt by using mixed 
&lt;br&gt;case library-name such as libQtCore.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;You suggest we change to lower cases phonon and entirely drop the 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;lt;Phonon/ClassName&amp;gt; form. (Btw. what is wrong with phonon/ClassName?)
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I have another suggestion, but only based on the problems you listed. 
&lt;br&gt;If it is possible to have symbolic library link in Mac, you could have both 
&lt;br&gt;libPhonon and libphonon. So rename the library, and add a link for 
&lt;br&gt;compatibility, but only do it on Mac and do it in a binary compatible way. 
&lt;br&gt;Linking generally would be to libphonon, but on Mac only that would be a 
&lt;br&gt;symbolic link to libPhonon. Since linking is not smoothly cross-platform 
&lt;br&gt;anyway I guess there should be no problem with Mac developers trying to link 
&lt;br&gt;to libPhonon elsewhere.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I am not sure it is possible though, and do not have a Mac to test.
&lt;br&gt;`Allan
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26736177</id>
	<title>Re: Phonon include header fix, once and for all</title>
	<published>2009-12-10T15:12:10Z</published>
	<updated>2009-12-10T15:12:10Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Bugzilla from thiago@kde.org</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Em Quinta-feira 10. Dezembro 2009, às 15.26.48, Martin Sandsmark escreveu:
&lt;div class='shrinkable-quote'&gt;&lt;div class='shrinkable-quote'&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; On Thursday 10. December 2009 14.44.12 Thiago Macieira wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; The reason is that it breaks frameworks on Mac, because the headers are
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; installed at:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; 	/Library/Frameworks/phonon.framework/Headers
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; The p must be lowercase because of the library name.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Excuse my obvious ignorance (as I have never really used a Mac), but can't
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; that path just be added to the include path, so the real path to for
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp;example Phonon/Path becomes
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp;/Library/Frameworks/phonon.framework/Headers/Phonon/Path? Or does the
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp;headers have to get stuffed directly into that Header-folder?
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;If you use the -F option to the Mac gcc, it will take
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;#include &amp;lt;foo/bar&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;And will search for /Library/Frameworks/foo.framework/Headers/bar.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;That's one of the reasons why all Qt public headers use #include 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;lt;QtModule/something&amp;gt;.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Of course it also searches all the other -I include paths, but the whole point 
&lt;br&gt;of a framework is that we don't have to pass all of -I$INCLUDE_DIR, -L$LIB_DIR 
&lt;br&gt;and &amp;nbsp;-l$libname. It has other benefits too. And you'd have to change all 
&lt;br&gt;buildsystems to have the extra -I flag...
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The way I see it, there's no way around the issue. It has to be lowercase p. 
&lt;br&gt;(Unless of course we want to break full binary compatibility and rename the 
&lt;br&gt;library)
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; If someone wants this decision reverted, please send a patch to Qt's
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; bin/syncqt and mkspecs/features/qt.prf and make sure you've tested on Mac
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;nbsp;with frameworks as well as Windows.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; I don't have access to any Windows machines or Macs, but I hope someone
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp;else has, that can help me test. :-)
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Just ask on #qt-labs.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;-- 
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26728106</id>
	<title>Re: Phonon include header fix, once and for all</title>
	<published>2009-12-10T06:26:48Z</published>
	<updated>2009-12-10T06:26:48Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Bugzilla from sandsmark@samfundet.no</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">On Thursday 10. December 2009 14.44.12 Thiago Macieira wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; The reason is that it breaks frameworks on Mac, because the headers are
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; installed at:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 	/Library/Frameworks/phonon.framework/Headers
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; The p must be lowercase because of the library name.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Excuse my obvious ignorance (as I have never really used a Mac), but can't 
&lt;br&gt;that path just be added to the include path, so the real path to for example 
&lt;br&gt;Phonon/Path becomes /Library/Frameworks/phonon.framework/Headers/Phonon/Path?
&lt;br&gt;Or does the headers have to get stuffed directly into that Header-folder?
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; If someone wants this decision reverted, please send a patch to Qt's
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; bin/syncqt and mkspecs/features/qt.prf and make sure you've tested on Mac
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp;with frameworks as well as Windows.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I don't have access to any Windows machines or Macs, but I hope someone else 
&lt;br&gt;has, that can help me test. :-)
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;-- 
&lt;br&gt;martin sandsmark
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26727455</id>
	<title>Phonon include header fix, once and for all</title>
	<published>2009-12-10T05:44:12Z</published>
	<updated>2009-12-10T05:44:12Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Bugzilla from thiago@kde.org</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">In Qt 4.4, when Phonon was included into the product, we kept the KDE library 
&lt;br&gt;name (libphonon.so.4), but we screwed up the headers.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Qt only shipped with phonon/foo.h, which meant that KDE apps would not compile 
&lt;br&gt;against the Qt-shipped Phonon.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;So I tried to fix this for Qt 4.5.0 by shipping in Qt:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; phonon/foo.h
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; Phonon/ClassName
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Bad idea, because of Windows and Mac, where the filesystems are case 
&lt;br&gt;insensitive. 
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I tried again in Qt 4.5.1 and failed.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I tried again in Qt 4.5.2 and failed again.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I tried again in Qt 4.5.3 and it looked like I had succeeded. The structure 
&lt;br&gt;is:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; phonon/foo.h
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; phonon/Phonon/ClassName
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; phonon_compat/phonon/phonon &amp;nbsp;(the master include file)
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;qmake would add the phonon_compat dir on its own, but CMake wouldn't. It 
&lt;br&gt;shouldn't be a problem because KDE-based apps never used that master include 
&lt;br&gt;file.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Turns out it's ALSO a failure. So I'm giving up on fixing this on the Qt side.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The reason is that it breaks frameworks on Mac, because the headers are 
&lt;br&gt;installed at:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; /Library/Frameworks/phonon.framework/Headers
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The p must be lowercase because of the library name.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;We're reverting Qt to 4.4 style headers: lowercase p, no ClassName.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Phonon upstream has those headers. I'm asking that the Phonon/ClassName 
&lt;br&gt;headers be declared &amp;quot;unsupported, never meant to be used&amp;quot; and any app using 
&lt;br&gt;them declared &amp;quot;you're walking on thin ice, please fix immediately&amp;quot;.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If someone wants this decision reverted, please send a patch to Qt's 
&lt;br&gt;bin/syncqt and mkspecs/features/qt.prf and make sure you've tested on Mac with 
&lt;br&gt;frameworks as well as Windows.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;-- 
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26650002</id>
	<title>Re: KMid2 name</title>
	<published>2009-12-04T14:08:21Z</published>
	<updated>2009-12-04T14:08:21Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Bugzilla from esken@kde.org</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Am Donnerstag, 3. Dezember 2009 13:25:31 schrieb Pedro Lopez-Cabanillas:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; I wonder about a name change ...
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KMID&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KMID&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Thoughts, hints?
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;What about kimidity or miditone.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;kimidity &amp;nbsp; # &amp;nbsp;Resembles timidity =&amp;gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TiMidity%2B%2B&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TiMidity%2B%2B&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;miditone # At least there is no www.miditone.org, www.miditone.com and 
&lt;br&gt;www.miditone.de
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; Christian
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26625217</id>
	<title>KMid2 name</title>
	<published>2009-12-03T04:25:31Z</published>
	<updated>2009-12-03T04:25:31Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Bugzilla from pedro.lopez.cabanillas@gmail.com</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">I wonder about a name change ...
&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KMID&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KMID&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Thoughts, hints?
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Regards,
&lt;br&gt;Pedro
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26601858</id>
	<title>Re: KMid2 status</title>
	<published>2009-12-01T16:49:04Z</published>
	<updated>2009-12-01T16:49:04Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Bugzilla from sourtooth@gmail.com</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 11:00 AM, Pedro Lopez-Cabanillas
&lt;br&gt;&amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26601858&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;pedro.lopez.cabanillas@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt; wrote:
&lt;div class='shrinkable-quote'&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Hi!
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; I've been developing KMid2 (a MIDI/karaoke player) in playground-multimedia
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; SVN for several weeks, and yesterday published the first preview release.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Packages are available at SourceForge:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://sourceforge.net/projects/kmid2/files/&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://sourceforge.net/projects/kmid2/files/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; My plan is moving it to extragear-multimedia some day, and continue the
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; development, not depending on the KDE SC release cycle. That's why I've
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; created the SF project site.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; At this point, the initial features are completed, with Linux support only, a
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; single MIDI output port, and no KPart. I would like to stop here to think
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; about the work done, and listen to the community and users' feedback.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Is it a good time to move the repository to kdereview? Maybe I should wait
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; until 4.4 is released, or later? Is there something missing or a forgotten
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; step to fulfill before?
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Another question. I would like to setup a forum (or mailing list) and a bug
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; tracker (separated from the old KMid one). There is already an user Wiki page
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; at &lt;a href=&quot;http://userbase.kde.org/KMid2&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://userbase.kde.org/KMid2&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;(thanks, Anne!). I would prefer to use the
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; KDE facilities instead of the SF ones, when possible. May I?
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br&gt;If you wish to setup a forum for your users, please to not hesitate
&lt;br&gt;the Forum Administrators ( who can be found in #kde-forum on Freenode
&lt;br&gt;). Note that someone experienced with using your application, or
&lt;br&gt;involved in its developement will be needed to assist moderating it,
&lt;br&gt;so that questions can get answered.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;For mailing lists, I believe you can ask the KDE sysadmin's about
&lt;br&gt;that, I think they prefer bugs be filed at bugs.kde.org now ( with the
&lt;br&gt;sysadmin component ) but I'm not too sure.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Regards,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Pedro
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
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&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Regards,
&lt;br&gt;Ben.
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26599801</id>
	<title>KMid2 status</title>
	<published>2009-12-01T14:00:10Z</published>
	<updated>2009-12-01T14:00:10Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Bugzilla from pedro.lopez.cabanillas@gmail.com</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Hi!
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I've been developing KMid2 (a MIDI/karaoke player) in playground-multimedia 
&lt;br&gt;SVN for several weeks, and yesterday published the first preview release. 
&lt;br&gt;Packages are available at SourceForge:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://sourceforge.net/projects/kmid2/files/&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://sourceforge.net/projects/kmid2/files/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;My plan is moving it to extragear-multimedia some day, and continue the 
&lt;br&gt;development, not depending on the KDE SC release cycle. That's why I've 
&lt;br&gt;created the SF project site. 
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;At this point, the initial features are completed, with Linux support only, a 
&lt;br&gt;single MIDI output port, and no KPart. I would like to stop here to think 
&lt;br&gt;about the work done, and listen to the community and users' feedback.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Is it a good time to move the repository to kdereview? Maybe I should wait 
&lt;br&gt;until 4.4 is released, or later? Is there something missing or a forgotten 
&lt;br&gt;step to fulfill before?
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Another question. I would like to setup a forum (or mailing list) and a bug 
&lt;br&gt;tracker (separated from the old KMid one). There is already an user Wiki page 
&lt;br&gt;at &lt;a href=&quot;http://userbase.kde.org/KMid2&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://userbase.kde.org/KMid2&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;(thanks, Anne!). I would prefer to use the 
&lt;br&gt;KDE facilities instead of the SF ones, when possible. May I?
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Regards,
&lt;br&gt;Pedro
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26583891</id>
	<title>[ANN] KMid2 preview release</title>
	<published>2009-11-30T15:16:20Z</published>
	<updated>2009-11-30T15:16:20Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Bugzilla from pedro.lopez.cabanillas@gmail.com</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">KMid2 is a MIDI/Karaoke player for KDE4. 
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;KMid was developed more than ten years ago, so it was time for a revamping. 
&lt;br&gt;KMid2 is a rewrite from scratch, with a new architecture and also some new 
&lt;br&gt;features.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;This is a preview release. Should not be used in production.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Here are some major features:
&lt;br&gt;* Plays MIDI and Karaoke files.
&lt;br&gt;* Playback to external hardware MIDI devices.
&lt;br&gt;* Allows to use software synths as well.
&lt;br&gt;* Tempo and volume controls.
&lt;br&gt;* Pitch (transpose) control.
&lt;br&gt;* Rhythm view (visual metronome).
&lt;br&gt;* Configurable character encoding, font and color for lyrics.
&lt;br&gt;* Playlists (song collections).
&lt;br&gt;* MIDI Mapper.
&lt;br&gt;* Channels window, with solo/muting controls and instrument selectors.
&lt;br&gt;* Piano player window, using VMPK artwork and technology.
&lt;br&gt;* Runs in Linux, using the ALSA Sequencer. 
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;More info:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;a href=&quot;http://userbase.kde.org/KMid2&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://userbase.kde.org/KMid2&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Copyright (C) 2009, Pedro Lopez-Cabanillas
&lt;br&gt;KMid2 is free software distributed under the terms of the GPL v2 license.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Downloads
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;* Source packages 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;a href=&quot;http://sourceforge.net/projects/kmid2/files/&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://sourceforge.net/projects/kmid2/files/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;* OpenSuse RPM packages 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;a href=&quot;http://software.opensuse.org/search?baseproject=ALL&amp;p=1&amp;q=kmid2&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://software.opensuse.org/search?baseproject=ALL&amp;p=1&amp;q=kmid2&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Regards,
&lt;br&gt;Pedro
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26526569</id>
	<title>REMINDER: Re: Planning for the Multimedia Sprint in May 2010</title>
	<published>2009-11-25T07:22:08Z</published>
	<updated>2009-11-25T07:22:08Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Bugzilla from myriam@kde.org</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">This is a reminder, please fill in your availability in the Doodle
&lt;br&gt;link below ASAP, we need to rent the house:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.doodle.com/7dahwb5ssndrwaxz&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.doodle.com/7dahwb5ssndrwaxz&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Thank you.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Regards, Myriam
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 13:04, Myriam Schweingruber &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26526569&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;myriam@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt; wrote:
&lt;div class='shrinkable-quote'&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Hi all,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; The Amarok team would like to organize a Multimedia sprint in
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Switzerland next year and gather all people involved in KDE Multimedia
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; applications for that sprint.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Since we know the house in Randa will be available in May, we need to
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; find the exact week.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; I prepared a Doodle to find a suitable weekend, the proposed dates are
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 13.- 18.5 2010
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 20. - 25.5.2010:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.doodle.com/7dahwb5ssndrwaxz&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.doodle.com/7dahwb5ssndrwaxz&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Please fill in your preferences, so we can make a definite reservation
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; ASAP. We already checked, there are no major FOSS events we know of at
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; these dates, but of course any information about some we might have
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; missed are welcome.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Mario Fux, Mark Kretschmann and I will be organizing this event, any
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; further help, especially from local KDE folks, would be very welcome
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; :)
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; More information about the location and its surroundings can be found here:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.randa.ch&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.randa.ch&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.hausranda.ch&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.hausranda.ch&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; FYI, the last Tokamak sprint was in Randa, so the Plasma people can
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; also give you some input about the place :)
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; IMPORTANT: Please use the &lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26526569&amp;i=1&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;kde-events@...&lt;/a&gt; list only for further
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; coordination of this sprint.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Regards, Myriam
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; --
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Protect your freedom and join the Fellowship of FSFE:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.fsfe.org&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.fsfe.org&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Please don't send me proprietary file formats,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; use ISO standard ODF instead (ISO/IEC 26300)
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;-- 
&lt;br&gt;Protect your freedom and join the Fellowship of FSFE:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.fsfe.org&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.fsfe.org&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;Please don't send me proprietary file formats,
&lt;br&gt;use ISO standard ODF instead (ISO/IEC 26300)
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26509792</id>
	<title>Re: Plasma OSD for KMix</title>
	<published>2009-11-25T01:34:54Z</published>
	<updated>2009-11-25T01:34:54Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Bugzilla from agateau@kde.org</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Aurélien Gâteau a écrit :
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Hi,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Here is a quick patch which replaces the border-less progress bar with a
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; (IMO) nicer Plasma meter. Mandatory screenshot:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://imagebin.ca/view/VjwpGS4.html&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://imagebin.ca/view/VjwpGS4.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; I know it's a bit late given incoming feature freeze, but I would like
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; to see this go in, if possible.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Unless someone objects, I am going to commit it this evening.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Aurélien
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26505054</id>
	<title>Re: Kubuntu packaging of kdemultimedia</title>
	<published>2009-11-24T15:16:55Z</published>
	<updated>2009-11-24T15:16:55Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Bugzilla from mpyne@kde.org</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">On Tuesday 24 November 2009 07:19:47 Jonathan Riddell wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; We also have a patch to make juk read MP4 tags with taglib-extras
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://bazaar.launchpad.net/%7Ekubuntu-members/kdemultimedia/ubuntu/annotat&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://bazaar.launchpad.net/%7Ekubuntu-members/kdemultimedia/ubuntu/annotat&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; e/head%3A/debian/patches/kubuntu_06_juk_read_mp4.diff
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jeff Mitchell had already provided a patch for most of this, but my 
&lt;br&gt;investigation into the proper mimetype resulted in video/mp4 instead of 
&lt;br&gt;audio/mp4 (apparently both are defined, yay). So that is fixed, and I've also 
&lt;br&gt;added the mp4 audiobook mimetype from the Kubuntu patch, so thanks.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Regards,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;- Michael Pyne
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26502690</id>
	<title>Re: Kubuntu packaging of kdemultimedia</title>
	<published>2009-11-24T12:25:16Z</published>
	<updated>2009-11-24T12:25:16Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Bugzilla from sourtooth@gmail.com</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 1:19 AM, Jonathan Riddell &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26502690&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;jriddell@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt; wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Kubuntu adds a .desktop file to open Audio CDs in dolphin
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://bazaar.launchpad.net/%7Ekubuntu-members/kdemultimedia/ubuntu/annotate/head%3A/debian/dolphin-open-audiocd.desktop&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://bazaar.launchpad.net/%7Ekubuntu-members/kdemultimedia/ubuntu/annotate/head%3A/debian/dolphin-open-audiocd.desktop&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;This should be using &amp;quot;kioclient exec&amp;quot; instead of &amp;quot;dolphin&amp;quot; so the
&lt;br&gt;users file manager setting is honored. I don't see anything else wrong
&lt;br&gt;with this otherwise.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;div class='shrinkable-quote'&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; There's a patch from debian to fix library linking
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://bazaar.launchpad.net/%7Ekubuntu-members/kdemultimedia/ubuntu/annotate/head%3A/debian/patches/97_fix_target_link_libraries.diff&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://bazaar.launchpad.net/%7Ekubuntu-members/kdemultimedia/ubuntu/annotate/head%3A/debian/patches/97_fix_target_link_libraries.diff&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; We make dragon ping our restricted codec install app
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://bazaar.launchpad.net/%7Ekubuntu-members/kdemultimedia/ubuntu/annotate/head%3A/debian/patches/kubuntu_02_dragon_restricted_install.diff&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://bazaar.launchpad.net/%7Ekubuntu-members/kdemultimedia/ubuntu/annotate/head%3A/debian/patches/kubuntu_02_dragon_restricted_install.diff&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; We also have a patch to make juk read MP4 tags with taglib-extras
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://bazaar.launchpad.net/%7Ekubuntu-members/kdemultimedia/ubuntu/annotate/head%3A/debian/patches/kubuntu_06_juk_read_mp4.diff&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://bazaar.launchpad.net/%7Ekubuntu-members/kdemultimedia/ubuntu/annotate/head%3A/debian/patches/kubuntu_06_juk_read_mp4.diff&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Comments on any of those welcome
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Jonathan
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; _______________________________________________
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26496256</id>
	<title>Re: Kubuntu packaging of kdemultimedia</title>
	<published>2009-11-24T05:52:20Z</published>
	<updated>2009-11-24T05:52:20Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Bugzilla from ian.monroe@gmail.com</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 6:19 AM, Jonathan Riddell &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26496256&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;jriddell@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt; wrote:
&lt;div class='shrinkable-quote'&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Kubuntu adds a .desktop file to open Audio CDs in dolphin
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://bazaar.launchpad.net/%7Ekubuntu-members/kdemultimedia/ubuntu/annotate/head%3A/debian/dolphin-open-audiocd.desktop&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://bazaar.launchpad.net/%7Ekubuntu-members/kdemultimedia/ubuntu/annotate/head%3A/debian/dolphin-open-audiocd.desktop&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; There's a patch from debian to fix library linking
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://bazaar.launchpad.net/%7Ekubuntu-members/kdemultimedia/ubuntu/annotate/head%3A/debian/patches/97_fix_target_link_libraries.diff&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://bazaar.launchpad.net/%7Ekubuntu-members/kdemultimedia/ubuntu/annotate/head%3A/debian/patches/97_fix_target_link_libraries.diff&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; We make dragon ping our restricted codec install app
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://bazaar.launchpad.net/%7Ekubuntu-members/kdemultimedia/ubuntu/annotate/head%3A/debian/patches/kubuntu_02_dragon_restricted_install.diff&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://bazaar.launchpad.net/%7Ekubuntu-members/kdemultimedia/ubuntu/annotate/head%3A/debian/patches/kubuntu_02_dragon_restricted_install.diff&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; We also have a patch to make juk read MP4 tags with taglib-extras
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://bazaar.launchpad.net/%7Ekubuntu-members/kdemultimedia/ubuntu/annotate/head%3A/debian/patches/kubuntu_06_juk_read_mp4.diff&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://bazaar.launchpad.net/%7Ekubuntu-members/kdemultimedia/ubuntu/annotate/head%3A/debian/patches/kubuntu_06_juk_read_mp4.diff&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Comments on any of those welcome
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br&gt;The first and last patch might make sense for inclusion upstream.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The one for Dragon Player looks fine, though if you included DVD
&lt;br&gt;support that would be better.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;But really I think you and Mandriva and the rest should get together
&lt;br&gt;and come up with a dbus standard for &amp;quot;installing extra codecs at
&lt;br&gt;runtime&amp;quot; so that such code can live upstream. All of you have your own
&lt;br&gt;solution for this so there's probably a lot of wasted redundant
&lt;br&gt;effort. Call it a &amp;quot;Kit&amp;quot; and everyone will love it. :) But thats more
&lt;br&gt;of a long term goal.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Ian
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26494949</id>
	<title>Kubuntu packaging of kdemultimedia</title>
	<published>2009-11-24T04:19:47Z</published>
	<updated>2009-11-24T04:19:47Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Jonathan Riddell-2</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">&lt;br&gt;Kubuntu adds a .desktop file to open Audio CDs in dolphin
&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://bazaar.launchpad.net/%7Ekubuntu-members/kdemultimedia/ubuntu/annotate/head%3A/debian/dolphin-open-audiocd.desktop&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://bazaar.launchpad.net/%7Ekubuntu-members/kdemultimedia/ubuntu/annotate/head%3A/debian/dolphin-open-audiocd.desktop&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;There's a patch from debian to fix library linking
&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://bazaar.launchpad.net/%7Ekubuntu-members/kdemultimedia/ubuntu/annotate/head%3A/debian/patches/97_fix_target_link_libraries.diff&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://bazaar.launchpad.net/%7Ekubuntu-members/kdemultimedia/ubuntu/annotate/head%3A/debian/patches/97_fix_target_link_libraries.diff&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;We make dragon ping our restricted codec install app
&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://bazaar.launchpad.net/%7Ekubuntu-members/kdemultimedia/ubuntu/annotate/head%3A/debian/patches/kubuntu_02_dragon_restricted_install.diff&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://bazaar.launchpad.net/%7Ekubuntu-members/kdemultimedia/ubuntu/annotate/head%3A/debian/patches/kubuntu_02_dragon_restricted_install.diff&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;We also have a patch to make juk read MP4 tags with taglib-extras
&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://bazaar.launchpad.net/%7Ekubuntu-members/kdemultimedia/ubuntu/annotate/head%3A/debian/patches/kubuntu_06_juk_read_mp4.diff&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://bazaar.launchpad.net/%7Ekubuntu-members/kdemultimedia/ubuntu/annotate/head%3A/debian/patches/kubuntu_06_juk_read_mp4.diff&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Comments on any of those welcome
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jonathan
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26487708</id>
	<title>Re: Fwd: jerkiness in video on using phonon on windows</title>
	<published>2009-11-23T15:02:28Z</published>
	<updated>2009-11-23T15:02:28Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Bugzilla from thiago@kde.org</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Em Segunda-feira 23. Novembro 2009, às 23.46.06, Ian Monroe escreveu:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; I mean I could see the reverse working: Nokia devs works in upstream
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; (eg the KDE repo) and then copy it over to the Qt repo when they want
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; to make a release. It would make development more open. Its basically
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; how it works with Phonon itself.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;That's how it should have been. That was the model we had envisioned when we 
&lt;br&gt;pushed them to KDE SVN.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;-- 
&lt;br&gt;Thiago Macieira - thiago (AT) macieira.info - thiago (AT) kde.org
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; Senior Product Manager - Nokia, Qt Development Frameworks
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26487538</id>
	<title>Re: jerkiness in video on using phonon on windows</title>
	<published>2009-11-23T14:50:31Z</published>
	<updated>2009-11-23T14:50:31Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Bugzilla from thiago@kde.org</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Em Segunda-feira 23. Novembro 2009, às 23.41.21, Martin Sandsmark escreveu:
&lt;div class='shrinkable-quote'&gt;&lt;div class='shrinkable-quote'&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 11:05:44PM +0100, Thiago Macieira wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt; But Webkit is a broader development community with its own release
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt; cycle issues, other maintainers etc etc.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; And that doesn't match Phonon how?
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Phonon is (supposed to be) released with Qt, and the development community
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp;is extremely small compared to WebKit, and Qt has a significantly larger
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp;part in the overall development of Phonon than WebKit (Qt's role in Phonon
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp;is more akin to Apple's role in the WebKit development, IMHO).
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;The point being that Qt developers should be treating Phonon development like 
&lt;br&gt;WebKit development. As members of the community and developing upstream.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; Really? So the Windows and Mac users who build Phonon from SVN or from
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; packages don't count?
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; It would be really interested to know if anyone actually builds their own
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp;ds9 and qt7 backends from SVN. There's no reason to, since the ds9 and qt7
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp;backends in SVN actually are lagging behind Qt's released versions.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;And again, they shouldn't be. That was not the original intention.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;-- 
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26487499</id>
	<title>Fwd: jerkiness in video on using phonon on windows</title>
	<published>2009-11-23T14:46:06Z</published>
	<updated>2009-11-23T14:46:06Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Bugzilla from ian.monroe@gmail.com</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">2009/11/23 Thiago Macieira &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26487499&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;thiago@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;:
&lt;div class='shrinkable-quote'&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Em Segunda-feira 23. Novembro 2009, às 22.43.01, Ian Monroe escreveu:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; 2009/11/23 Thiago Macieira &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26487499&amp;i=1&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;thiago@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; Em Segunda-feira 23. Novembro 2009, às 21.40.29, Ian Monroe escreveu:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt; 2009/11/23 Thiago Macieira &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26487499&amp;i=2&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;thiago@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; Em Segunda-feira 23 Novembro 2009, às 19:19:31, Martin Sandsmark
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; escreveu:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt;  Mandag 23. november 2009 19.07.35 skrev Thiago Macieira :
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; There have been lots of changes made to phonon-ds9 since July,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; including bugfixes.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; It's hardly unmaintained.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt; Where? I can't see anyone committing to the ds9 backend in Phonon's
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt; trunk, apart from Scripty, the last 10 months.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; In Qt, in src/3rdparty/phonon/ds9.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; Justin and Thierry have already made the patches and agreed to push to
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; KDE. Will probably happen when 4.6 is out and we have time.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt; Whats the point of having it in SVN at all if it just results in
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt;  misinformation.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; All those patches should have been developed in SVN, I agree with you.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; Unfortunately, SVN is a lot more cumbersome to develop than Git. And not
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; all developers who made fixes have SVN accounts.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; So it's being developed like WebKit: some changes upstream (SVN), some
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; changes in Qt (Git). Then someone has to do the merge. However, unlike
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; WebKit, no one has set up a good system for doing merges properly, nor
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; taken the responsibility of doing this periodically.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; But Webkit is a broader development community with its own release
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; cycle issues, other maintainers etc etc.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; And that doesn't match Phonon how?
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Keeping the Qt backends in SVN has no apparent benefit.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Really? So the Windows and Mac users who build Phonon from SVN or from
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; packages don't count?
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br&gt;Um, they should use Qt since thats where the most up-to-date code
&lt;br&gt;apparently anyways.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;And when did svn.kde.org turn into a subversion mirror for
&lt;br&gt;qt.gitorious.org? But a really bad mirror thats months out of date.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I mean I could see the reverse working: Nokia devs works in upstream
&lt;br&gt;(eg the KDE repo) and then copy it over to the Qt repo when they want
&lt;br&gt;to make a release. It would make development more open. Its basically
&lt;br&gt;how it works with Phonon itself. But the current system for these
&lt;br&gt;backends just makes things confusing and really doesn't have any
&lt;br&gt;benefits.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If someone wants to patch gst, ds9 or qt7 they would just do a merge
&lt;br&gt;request at Gitorious, doesn't seem so hard.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;One thing to keep in mind is that Martin does plan on putting Phonon
&lt;br&gt;into Git. Though frankly Qt Software loves multiple git repos I doubt
&lt;br&gt;that would change your habits.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; PS: webkit doesn't have release cycles at all, so it doesn't have issues with
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; it.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Ok, products that use webkit do have release cycles. I remember Ariya
&lt;br&gt;saying they had to wrestle with this. In that situation running your
&lt;br&gt;own branch is absolutely required. But Qt is the only group making
&lt;br&gt;releases of the Nokia phonon backends.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Ian
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26487443</id>
	<title>Re: jerkiness in video on using phonon on windows</title>
	<published>2009-11-23T14:41:21Z</published>
	<updated>2009-11-23T14:41:21Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Bugzilla from sandsmark@samfundet.no</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 11:05:44PM +0100, Thiago Macieira wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; But Webkit is a broader development community with its own release
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; cycle issues, other maintainers etc etc.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; And that doesn't match Phonon how?
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Phonon is (supposed to be) released with Qt, and the development community is
&lt;br&gt;extremely small compared to WebKit, and Qt has a significantly larger part in
&lt;br&gt;the overall development of Phonon than WebKit (Qt's role in Phonon is more
&lt;br&gt;akin to Apple's role in the WebKit development, IMHO).
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Really? So the Windows and Mac users who build Phonon from SVN or from 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; packages don't count?
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It would be really interested to know if anyone actually builds their own ds9
&lt;br&gt;and qt7 backends from SVN. There's no reason to, since the ds9 and qt7
&lt;br&gt;backends in SVN actually are lagging behind Qt's released versions.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;And I have seen plenty of people using the released Phonon that comes with
&lt;br&gt;Qt, with those backends, and also a growing amount of Windows people using
&lt;br&gt;the Phonon-VLC backend (and a more or less steady amount of the MPlayer
&lt;br&gt;backend), but maybe I just hear about them because they're harder to build.
&lt;br&gt;Or something.
&lt;br&gt;(Yes, yes, anecdotes. But a growing amount of them. :-)
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; PS: webkit doesn't have release cycles at all, so it doesn't have issues with 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; it.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Yet another reason why comparing Phonon to WebKit is a bad idea. :-)
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;-- 
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26486867</id>
	<title>Re: jerkiness in video on using phonon on windows</title>
	<published>2009-11-23T14:05:44Z</published>
	<updated>2009-11-23T14:05:44Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Bugzilla from thiago@kde.org</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Em Segunda-feira 23. Novembro 2009, às 22.43.01, Ian Monroe escreveu:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 2009/11/23 Thiago Macieira &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26486867&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;thiago@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; Em Segunda-feira 23. Novembro 2009, às 21.40.29, Ian Monroe escreveu:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt; 2009/11/23 Thiago Macieira &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26486867&amp;i=1&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;thiago@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; Em Segunda-feira 23 Novembro 2009, às 19:19:31, Martin Sandsmark 
&lt;br&gt;escreveu:
&lt;div class='shrinkable-quote'&gt;&lt;div class='shrinkable-quote'&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp;Mandag 23. november 2009 19.07.35 skrev Thiago Macieira :
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; There have been lots of changes made to phonon-ds9 since July,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; including bugfixes.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; It's hardly unmaintained.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt; Where? I can't see anyone committing to the ds9 backend in Phonon's
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt; trunk, apart from Scripty, the last 10 months.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; In Qt, in src/3rdparty/phonon/ds9.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; Justin and Thierry have already made the patches and agreed to push to
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; KDE. Will probably happen when 4.6 is out and we have time.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt; Whats the point of having it in SVN at all if it just results in
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp;misinformation.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; All those patches should have been developed in SVN, I agree with you.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; Unfortunately, SVN is a lot more cumbersome to develop than Git. And not
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; all developers who made fixes have SVN accounts.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; So it's being developed like WebKit: some changes upstream (SVN), some
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; changes in Qt (Git). Then someone has to do the merge. However, unlike
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; WebKit, no one has set up a good system for doing merges properly, nor
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; taken the responsibility of doing this periodically.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; But Webkit is a broader development community with its own release
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; cycle issues, other maintainers etc etc.
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;And that doesn't match Phonon how?
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Keeping the Qt backends in SVN has no apparent benefit.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Really? So the Windows and Mac users who build Phonon from SVN or from 
&lt;br&gt;packages don't count?
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;PS: webkit doesn't have release cycles at all, so it doesn't have issues with 
&lt;br&gt;it.
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26486471</id>
	<title>Re: jerkiness in video on using phonon on windows</title>
	<published>2009-11-23T13:43:01Z</published>
	<updated>2009-11-23T13:43:01Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Bugzilla from ian.monroe@gmail.com</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">2009/11/23 Thiago Macieira &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26486471&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;thiago@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;:
&lt;div class='shrinkable-quote'&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Em Segunda-feira 23. Novembro 2009, às 21.40.29, Ian Monroe escreveu:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; 2009/11/23 Thiago Macieira &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26486471&amp;i=1&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;thiago@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; Em Segunda-feira 23 Novembro 2009, às 19:19:31, Martin Sandsmark escreveu:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt;  Mandag 23. november 2009 19.07.35 skrev Thiago Macieira :
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; There have been lots of changes made to phonon-ds9 since July,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; including bugfixes.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; It's hardly unmaintained.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt; Where? I can't see anyone committing to the ds9 backend in Phonon's
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt; trunk, apart from Scripty, the last 10 months.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; In Qt, in src/3rdparty/phonon/ds9.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; Justin and Thierry have already made the patches and agreed to push to
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; KDE. Will probably happen when 4.6 is out and we have time.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Whats the point of having it in SVN at all if it just results in
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;  misinformation.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; All those patches should have been developed in SVN, I agree with you.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Unfortunately, SVN is a lot more cumbersome to develop than Git. And not all
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; developers who made fixes have SVN accounts.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; So it's being developed like WebKit: some changes upstream (SVN), some changes
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; in Qt (Git). Then someone has to do the merge. However, unlike WebKit, no one
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; has set up a good system for doing merges properly, nor taken the
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; responsibility of doing this periodically.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br&gt;But Webkit is a broader development community with its own release
&lt;br&gt;cycle issues, other maintainers etc etc.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Keeping the Qt backends in SVN has no apparent benefit.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Ian
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26485714</id>
	<title>Re: jerkiness in video on using phonon on windows</title>
	<published>2009-11-23T12:58:08Z</published>
	<updated>2009-11-23T12:58:08Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Bugzilla from thiago@kde.org</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Em Segunda-feira 23. Novembro 2009, às 21.40.29, Ian Monroe escreveu:
&lt;div class='shrinkable-quote'&gt;&lt;div class='shrinkable-quote'&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 2009/11/23 Thiago Macieira &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26485714&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;thiago@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; Em Segunda-feira 23 Novembro 2009, às 19:19:31, Martin Sandsmark escreveu:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp;Mandag 23. november 2009 19.07.35 skrev Thiago Macieira :
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; There have been lots of changes made to phonon-ds9 since July,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; including bugfixes.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; It's hardly unmaintained.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt; Where? I can't see anyone committing to the ds9 backend in Phonon's
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt; trunk, apart from Scripty, the last 10 months.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; In Qt, in src/3rdparty/phonon/ds9.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; Justin and Thierry have already made the patches and agreed to push to
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; KDE. Will probably happen when 4.6 is out and we have time.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Whats the point of having it in SVN at all if it just results in
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp;misinformation.
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;All those patches should have been developed in SVN, I agree with you. 
&lt;br&gt;Unfortunately, SVN is a lot more cumbersome to develop than Git. And not all 
&lt;br&gt;developers who made fixes have SVN accounts.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;So it's being developed like WebKit: some changes upstream (SVN), some changes 
&lt;br&gt;in Qt (Git). Then someone has to do the merge. However, unlike WebKit, no one 
&lt;br&gt;has set up a good system for doing merges properly, nor taken the 
&lt;br&gt;responsibility of doing this periodically.
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26485429</id>
	<title>Re: jerkiness in video on using phonon on windows</title>
	<published>2009-11-23T12:40:29Z</published>
	<updated>2009-11-23T12:40:29Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Bugzilla from ian.monroe@gmail.com</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">2009/11/23 Thiago Macieira &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26485429&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;thiago@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;:
&lt;div class='shrinkable-quote'&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Em Segunda-feira 23 Novembro 2009, às 19:19:31, Martin Sandsmark escreveu:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;  Mandag 23. november 2009 19.07.35 skrev Thiago Macieira :
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; There have been lots of changes made to phonon-ds9 since July, including
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; bugfixes.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; It's hardly unmaintained.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Where? I can't see anyone committing to the ds9 backend in Phonon's trunk,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; apart from Scripty, the last 10 months.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; In Qt, in src/3rdparty/phonon/ds9.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Justin and Thierry have already made the patches and agreed to push to KDE.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Will probably happen when 4.6 is out and we have time.
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br&gt;Whats the point of having it in SVN at all if it just results in misinformation.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Ian
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26483841</id>
	<title>Re: jerkiness in video on using phonon on windows</title>
	<published>2009-11-23T10:52:38Z</published>
	<updated>2009-11-23T10:52:38Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Bugzilla from thiago@kde.org</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Em Segunda-feira 23 Novembro 2009, às 19:19:31, Martin Sandsmark escreveu:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp;Mandag 23. november 2009 19.07.35 skrev Thiago Macieira :
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; There have been lots of changes made to phonon-ds9 since July, including
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; bugfixes.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; It's hardly unmaintained.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Where? I can't see anyone committing to the ds9 backend in Phonon's trunk,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; apart from Scripty, the last 10 months.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In Qt, in src/3rdparty/phonon/ds9.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Justin and Thierry have already made the patches and agreed to push to KDE. 
&lt;br&gt;Will probably happen when 4.6 is out and we have time.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;-- 
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26483336</id>
	<title>Re: jerkiness in video on using phonon on windows</title>
	<published>2009-11-23T10:19:31Z</published>
	<updated>2009-11-23T10:19:31Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Bugzilla from sandsmark@samfundet.no</name>
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	<content type="html">&amp;nbsp;Mandag 23. november 2009 19.07.35 skrev Thiago Macieira :
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; There have been lots of changes made to phonon-ds9 since July, including
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; bugfixes.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; It's hardly unmaintained.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Where? I can't see anyone committing to the ds9 backend in Phonon's trunk, 
&lt;br&gt;apart from Scripty, the last 10 months.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;-- 
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26483168</id>
	<title>Re: jerkiness in video on using phonon on windows</title>
	<published>2009-11-23T10:07:35Z</published>
	<updated>2009-11-23T10:07:35Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Bugzilla from thiago@kde.org</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Em Segunda-feira 23 Novembro 2009, às 17:02:12, Ian Monroe escreveu:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; phonon-ds9 is more or less unmaintained.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;There have been lots of changes made to phonon-ds9 since July, including 
&lt;br&gt;bugfixes.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It's hardly unmaintained.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;-- 
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&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; Senior Product Manager - Nokia, Qt Development Frameworks
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26480843</id>
	<title>Re: jerkiness in video on using phonon on windows</title>
	<published>2009-11-23T08:02:12Z</published>
	<updated>2009-11-23T08:02:12Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Bugzilla from ian.monroe@gmail.com</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 9:25 AM, Lilesh Ghadi &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26480843&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;lilesh.ghadi@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt; wrote:
&lt;div class='shrinkable-quote'&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Hi,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; We are subclassing QIODevice to pass audio-video data to a custom parser
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; (a Directshow filter implementation) using Phonon. Phonon creates a
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; graph that includes the custom parser and corresponding audio-video
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; decoders and rendering filters. The custom parser internally separates
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; audio and video, which is then decoded and rendered.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; When this sequence is played, jerkiness is observed periodically (spaced
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; every 2-3 seconds). By video jerkiness, I mean that previous frame is
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; again rendered causing a break in continuous viewing. It is important to
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; note that there is no break in audio.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; When the same file with the custom format is drag-n-dropped in to
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Graphedit, it automatically creates a pipeline and renders audio-video
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; data satisfactorily (meaning no jerkiness and in audio-video
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; synchronization). From this, we have concluded that the directshow
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; filters by themselves do not have any bug and perform correctly.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; We are unable to figure out why this behaviour is observed on using
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; phonon in windows. Any help/suggestions in this matter will be appreciated.
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br&gt;phonon-ds9 is more or less unmaintained. What little personal
&lt;br&gt;experience I have with it has been unpleasant, so it doesn't surprise
&lt;br&gt;me that you'd have trouble like this.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;You could think about implementing your parser as a phonon effect and
&lt;br&gt;then implement it in phonon-ds9 itself. If its already a directshow
&lt;br&gt;filter... it would make logical sense to work with ds9 directly. Your
&lt;br&gt;code would need to be released under the LGPL then. But again, no
&lt;br&gt;expert here. :)
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Ian
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26480305</id>
	<title>Plasma OSD for KMix</title>
	<published>2009-11-23T07:35:58Z</published>
	<updated>2009-11-23T07:35:58Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Bugzilla from agateau@kde.org</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Hi,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Here is a quick patch which replaces the border-less progress bar with a
&lt;br&gt;(IMO) nicer Plasma meter. Mandatory screenshot:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://imagebin.ca/view/VjwpGS4.html&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://imagebin.ca/view/VjwpGS4.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I know it's a bit late given incoming feature freeze, but I would like
&lt;br&gt;to see this go in, if possible.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Aurélien
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br /&gt;diff --git a/kmix/CMakeLists.txt b/kmix/CMakeLists.txt
&lt;br&gt;index 193b838..7c13451 100644
&lt;br&gt;--- a/kmix/CMakeLists.txt
&lt;br&gt;+++ b/kmix/CMakeLists.txt
&lt;br&gt;@@ -35,11 +35,12 @@ set(kmix_KDEINIT_SRCS ${kmix_adaptor_SRCS}
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; KMixApp.cpp 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; dialogselectmaster.cpp 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; kmixdevicemanager.cpp 
&lt;br&gt;- &amp;nbsp; guiprofile.cpp)
&lt;br&gt;+ &amp;nbsp; guiprofile.cpp
&lt;br&gt;+ &amp;nbsp; volumedisplayframe.cpp)
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;kde4_add_kdeinit_executable( kmix ${kmix_KDEINIT_SRCS})
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;-target_link_libraries(kdeinit_kmix ${KDE4_KUTILS_LIBS} ${KDE4_PHONON_LIBS} ${KDE4_SOLID_LIBS} ${KDE4_KDEUI_LIBS} ${QT_QTXML_LIBRARY})
&lt;br&gt;+target_link_libraries(kdeinit_kmix ${KDE4_KUTILS_LIBS} ${KDE4_PHONON_LIBS} ${KDE4_SOLID_LIBS} ${KDE4_KDEUI_LIBS} ${KDE4_PLASMA_LIBS} ${QT_QTXML_LIBRARY})
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;if (HAVE_LIBASOUND2)
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;target_link_libraries(kdeinit_kmix ${ASOUND_LIBRARY})
&lt;br&gt;diff --git a/kmix/kmix.cpp b/kmix/kmix.cpp
&lt;br&gt;index 6214469..c1cd03f 100644
&lt;br&gt;--- a/kmix/kmix.cpp
&lt;br&gt;+++ b/kmix/kmix.cpp
&lt;br&gt;@@ -58,6 +58,7 @@
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;#include &amp;quot;kmixtoolbox.h&amp;quot;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;#include &amp;quot;version.h&amp;quot;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;#include &amp;quot;viewdockareapopup.h&amp;quot;
&lt;br&gt;+#include &amp;quot;volumedisplayframe.h&amp;quot;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;#include &amp;quot;dialogselectmaster.h&amp;quot;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;//#include &amp;quot;osd.h&amp;quot; // Postponed to KDE4.1
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;@@ -145,18 +146,7 @@ void KMixWindow::initActions()
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; globalAction-&amp;gt;setGlobalShortcut(KShortcut(Qt::Key_VolumeMute));
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; connect(globalAction, SIGNAL(triggered(bool) ), SLOT(slotMute()));
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;- &amp;nbsp; volumeDisplay = new QProgressBar();
&lt;br&gt;- &amp;nbsp; volumeDisplay-&amp;gt;setWindowFlags(Qt::X11BypassWindowManagerHint);
&lt;br&gt;- &amp;nbsp; QDesktopWidget* desktop = KApplication::kApplication()-&amp;gt;desktop();
&lt;br&gt;- &amp;nbsp; //Getting QRect of the screen where cursor is positioned
&lt;br&gt;- &amp;nbsp; QRect rect = desktop-&amp;gt;screenGeometry(QCursor::pos());
&lt;br&gt;- &amp;nbsp; int width = (rect.width()/2) - (volumeDisplay-&amp;gt;width()/2);
&lt;br&gt;- &amp;nbsp; int height = (rect.height()/2) - (volumeDisplay-&amp;gt;height()/2);
&lt;br&gt;- &amp;nbsp; width += rect.x();
&lt;br&gt;- &amp;nbsp; height += rect.y();
&lt;br&gt;- &amp;nbsp; volumeDisplay-&amp;gt;move(width, height);
&lt;br&gt;- &amp;nbsp; volumeDisplayTimer = new QTimer(this);
&lt;br&gt;- &amp;nbsp; connect(volumeDisplayTimer, SIGNAL(timeout()), this, SLOT(slotHideVolumeDisplay()));
&lt;br&gt;+ &amp;nbsp; m_volumeDisplayFrame = new VolumeDisplayFrame;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; createGUI( &amp;quot;kmixui.rc&amp;quot; );
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;}
&lt;br&gt;@@ -651,29 +641,28 @@ void KMixWindow::showVolumeDisplay()
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;Mixer* mixer = Mixer::getGlobalMasterMixer();
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;MixDevice *md = Mixer::getGlobalMasterMD();
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;int currentVolume = mixer-&amp;gt;volume(md-&amp;gt;id());
&lt;br&gt;+ &amp;nbsp;QString iconName;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;if (md-&amp;gt;isMuted()) {
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;currentVolume = 0;
&lt;br&gt;+ &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;iconName = &amp;quot;audio-volume-muted&amp;quot;;
&lt;br&gt;+ &amp;nbsp;} else if (currentVolume &amp;lt; 25) {
&lt;br&gt;+ &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;iconName = &amp;quot;audio-volume-low&amp;quot;;
&lt;br&gt;+ &amp;nbsp;} else if (currentVolume &amp;lt; 75) {
&lt;br&gt;+ &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;iconName = &amp;quot;audio-volume-medium&amp;quot;;
&lt;br&gt;+ &amp;nbsp;} else {
&lt;br&gt;+ &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;iconName = &amp;quot;audio-volume-high&amp;quot;;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;}
&lt;br&gt;- &amp;nbsp;volumeDisplay-&amp;gt;setValue(currentVolume);
&lt;br&gt;- &amp;nbsp;volumeDisplay-&amp;gt;show();
&lt;br&gt;+ &amp;nbsp;m_volumeDisplayFrame-&amp;gt;setIcon(iconName);
&lt;br&gt;+ &amp;nbsp;m_volumeDisplayFrame-&amp;gt;setValue(currentVolume);
&lt;br&gt;+ &amp;nbsp;m_volumeDisplayFrame-&amp;gt;show();
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;- &amp;nbsp;//FIXME, how to get this to work before it is displayed for the first time?
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;QDesktopWidget* desktop = KApplication::kApplication()-&amp;gt;desktop();
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;//Getting QRect of the screen where cursor is positioned
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;QRect rect = desktop-&amp;gt;screenGeometry(QCursor::pos());
&lt;br&gt;- &amp;nbsp;int width = (rect.width()/2) - (volumeDisplay-&amp;gt;width()/2);
&lt;br&gt;- &amp;nbsp;int height = (rect.height()/2) - (volumeDisplay-&amp;gt;height()/2);
&lt;br&gt;- &amp;nbsp;width += rect.x();
&lt;br&gt;- &amp;nbsp;height += rect.y();
&lt;br&gt;- &amp;nbsp;volumeDisplay-&amp;gt;move(width, height);
&lt;br&gt;-
&lt;br&gt;- &amp;nbsp;volumeDisplayTimer-&amp;gt;setInterval(2000);
&lt;br&gt;- &amp;nbsp;volumeDisplayTimer-&amp;gt;start();
&lt;br&gt;-}
&lt;br&gt;-
&lt;br&gt;-void KMixWindow::slotHideVolumeDisplay()
&lt;br&gt;-{
&lt;br&gt;- &amp;nbsp;volumeDisplay-&amp;gt;hide();
&lt;br&gt;+ &amp;nbsp;QSize size = m_volumeDisplayFrame-&amp;gt;sizeHint();
&lt;br&gt;+ &amp;nbsp;int posX = rect.x() + (rect.width() - size.width()) / 2;
&lt;br&gt;+ &amp;nbsp;int posY = rect.y() + (rect.height() - size.height()) / 2;
&lt;br&gt;+ &amp;nbsp;m_volumeDisplayFrame-&amp;gt;setGeometry(posX, posY, size.width(), size.height());
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;}
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;void KMixWindow::slotMute()
&lt;br&gt;diff --git a/kmix/kmix.h b/kmix/kmix.h
&lt;br&gt;index 4262954..0ef8c01 100644
&lt;br&gt;--- a/kmix/kmix.h
&lt;br&gt;+++ b/kmix/kmix.h
&lt;br&gt;@@ -30,7 +30,6 @@ class QLabel;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;#include &amp;lt;qlist.h&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;#include &amp;lt;QVBoxLayout&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;#include &amp;lt;QProgressBar&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;-#include &amp;lt;QTimer&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;class KTabWidget;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;// KDE
&lt;br&gt;@@ -44,6 +43,7 @@ class KMixDockWidget;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;class KMixWindow;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;class Mixer;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;class ViewDockAreaPopup;
&lt;br&gt;+class VolumeDisplayFrame;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;#include &amp;quot;mixer.h&amp;quot;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;@@ -120,8 +120,7 @@ KMixWindow : public KXmlGuiWindow
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; QLabel &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;*m_errorLabel;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; ViewDockAreaPopup *_dockAreaPopup;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; unsigned int m_configVersion;
&lt;br&gt;- &amp;nbsp; QProgressBar* volumeDisplay;
&lt;br&gt;- &amp;nbsp; QTimer* volumeDisplayTimer;
&lt;br&gt;+ &amp;nbsp; VolumeDisplayFrame *m_volumeDisplayFrame;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; void showVolumeDisplay();
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; void increaseOrDecreaseVolume(bool increase);
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;@@ -136,7 +135,6 @@ KMixWindow : public KXmlGuiWindow
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; void hideOrClose();
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; void slotIncreaseVolume();
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; void slotDecreaseVolume();
&lt;br&gt;- &amp;nbsp; void slotHideVolumeDisplay();
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; void slotMute();
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;};
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;diff --git a/kmix/volumedisplayframe.cpp b/kmix/volumedisplayframe.cpp
&lt;br&gt;new file mode 100644
&lt;br&gt;index 0000000..e40d2d9
&lt;br&gt;--- /dev/null
&lt;br&gt;+++ b/kmix/volumedisplayframe.cpp
&lt;br&gt;@@ -0,0 +1,103 @@
&lt;br&gt;+#include &amp;quot;volumedisplayframe.h&amp;quot;
&lt;br&gt;+
&lt;br&gt;+// Qt
&lt;br&gt;+#include &amp;lt;QGraphicsLinearLayout&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;+#include &amp;lt;QLabel&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;+#include &amp;lt;QPainter&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;+#include &amp;lt;QScrollBar&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;+#include &amp;lt;QTimer&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;+
&lt;br&gt;+// KDE
&lt;br&gt;+#include &amp;lt;KDebug&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;+#include &amp;lt;KIconLoader&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;+#include &amp;lt;Plasma/FrameSvg&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;+#include &amp;lt;Plasma/Label&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;+#include &amp;lt;Plasma/Meter&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;+
&lt;br&gt;+VolumeDisplayFrame::VolumeDisplayFrame(QWidget* parent)
&lt;br&gt;+: QGraphicsView(parent)
&lt;br&gt;+, m_background(new Plasma::FrameSvg(this))
&lt;br&gt;+, m_scene(new QGraphicsScene(this))
&lt;br&gt;+, m_container(new QGraphicsWidget)
&lt;br&gt;+, m_icon(new Plasma::Label)
&lt;br&gt;+, m_meter(new Plasma::Meter)
&lt;br&gt;+, m_timer(new QTimer(this))
&lt;br&gt;+{
&lt;br&gt;+ &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;setWindowFlags(Qt::X11BypassWindowManagerHint);
&lt;br&gt;+ &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;setFrameStyle(QFrame::NoFrame);
&lt;br&gt;+ &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;viewport()-&amp;gt;setAutoFillBackground(false);
&lt;br&gt;+ &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;setHorizontalScrollBarPolicy(Qt::ScrollBarAlwaysOff);
&lt;br&gt;+ &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;setVerticalScrollBarPolicy(Qt::ScrollBarAlwaysOff);
&lt;br&gt;+ &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;setAttribute(Qt::WA_TranslucentBackground);
&lt;br&gt;+
&lt;br&gt;+ &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;m_background-&amp;gt;setImagePath(&amp;quot;widgets/tooltip&amp;quot;);
&lt;br&gt;+
&lt;br&gt;+ &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;m_meter-&amp;gt;setMeterType(Plasma::Meter::BarMeterHorizontal);
&lt;br&gt;+ &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;m_meter-&amp;gt;setMaximum(100);
&lt;br&gt;+
&lt;br&gt;+ &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;m_timer-&amp;gt;setInterval(2000);
&lt;br&gt;+ &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;m_timer-&amp;gt;setSingleShot(true);
&lt;br&gt;+ &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;connect(m_timer, SIGNAL(timeout()), SLOT(hide()));
&lt;br&gt;+
&lt;br&gt;+ &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;setScene(m_scene);
&lt;br&gt;+
&lt;br&gt;+ &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;QGraphicsLinearLayout *layout = new QGraphicsLinearLayout(m_container);
&lt;br&gt;+
&lt;br&gt;+ &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;m_icon-&amp;gt;setImage(KIconLoader::global()-&amp;gt;iconPath(&amp;quot;audio-volume-high&amp;quot;, KIconLoader::Small));
&lt;br&gt;+ &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;m_icon-&amp;gt;nativeWidget()-&amp;gt;setSizePolicy(QSizePolicy::Fixed, QSizePolicy::Fixed);
&lt;br&gt;+ &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;layout-&amp;gt;addItem(m_icon);
&lt;br&gt;+ &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;layout-&amp;gt;addItem(m_meter);
&lt;br&gt;+ &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;m_scene-&amp;gt;addItem(m_container);
&lt;br&gt;+}
&lt;br&gt;+
&lt;br&gt;+void VolumeDisplayFrame::drawBackground(QPainter *painter, const QRectF &amp;/*rectF*/)
&lt;br&gt;+{
&lt;br&gt;+ &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;painter-&amp;gt;save();
&lt;br&gt;+ &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;painter-&amp;gt;setCompositionMode(QPainter::CompositionMode_Source);
&lt;br&gt;+ &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;m_background-&amp;gt;paintFrame(painter);
&lt;br&gt;+ &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;painter-&amp;gt;restore();
&lt;br&gt;+}
&lt;br&gt;+
&lt;br&gt;+QSize VolumeDisplayFrame::sizeHint() const
&lt;br&gt;+{
&lt;br&gt;+ &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;int iconSize = m_icon-&amp;gt;nativeWidget()-&amp;gt;pixmap()-&amp;gt;height();
&lt;br&gt;+ &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;int meterHeight = iconSize;
&lt;br&gt;+ &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;int meterWidth = iconSize * 12;
&lt;br&gt;+ &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;qreal left, top, right, bottom;
&lt;br&gt;+ &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;m_background-&amp;gt;getMargins(left, top, right, bottom);
&lt;br&gt;+ &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;return QSize(meterWidth + iconSize + left + right, meterHeight + top + bottom);
&lt;br&gt;+}
&lt;br&gt;+
&lt;br&gt;+void VolumeDisplayFrame::resizeEvent(QResizeEvent*)
&lt;br&gt;+{
&lt;br&gt;+ &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;m_background-&amp;gt;resizeFrame(size());
&lt;br&gt;+ &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;m_container-&amp;gt;setGeometry(0, 0, width(), height());
&lt;br&gt;+ &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;m_meter-&amp;gt;setMaximumHeight(m_icon-&amp;gt;geometry().height());
&lt;br&gt;+ &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;qreal left, top, right, bottom;
&lt;br&gt;+ &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;m_background-&amp;gt;getMargins(left, top, right, bottom);
&lt;br&gt;+ &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;m_container-&amp;gt;layout()-&amp;gt;setContentsMargins(left, top, right, bottom);
&lt;br&gt;+
&lt;br&gt;+ &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;m_scene-&amp;gt;setSceneRect(0, 0, width(), height());
&lt;br&gt;+ &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;setMask(m_background-&amp;gt;mask());
&lt;br&gt;+}
&lt;br&gt;+
&lt;br&gt;+void VolumeDisplayFrame::showEvent(QShowEvent *event)
&lt;br&gt;+{
&lt;br&gt;+ &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;QGraphicsView::showEvent(event);
&lt;br&gt;+ &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;m_timer-&amp;gt;start();
&lt;br&gt;+}
&lt;br&gt;+
&lt;br&gt;+void VolumeDisplayFrame::setValue(int value)
&lt;br&gt;+{
&lt;br&gt;+ &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;m_meter-&amp;gt;setValue(value);
&lt;br&gt;+ &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;if (isVisible()) {
&lt;br&gt;+ &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;m_timer-&amp;gt;start();
&lt;br&gt;+ &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;}
&lt;br&gt;+}
&lt;br&gt;+
&lt;br&gt;+void VolumeDisplayFrame::setIcon(const QString &amp;name)
&lt;br&gt;+{
&lt;br&gt;+ &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;m_icon-&amp;gt;setImage(KIconLoader::global()-&amp;gt;iconPath(name, KIconLoader::Small));
&lt;br&gt;+}
&lt;br&gt;+
&lt;br&gt;+#include &amp;quot;volumedisplayframe.moc&amp;quot;
&lt;br&gt;diff --git a/kmix/volumedisplayframe.h b/kmix/volumedisplayframe.h
&lt;br&gt;new file mode 100644
&lt;br&gt;index 0000000..4b8ed1c
&lt;br&gt;--- /dev/null
&lt;br&gt;+++ b/kmix/volumedisplayframe.h
&lt;br&gt;@@ -0,0 +1,42 @@
&lt;br&gt;+#ifndef VOLUMEDISPLAYFRAME_H
&lt;br&gt;+#define VOLUMEDISPLAYFRAME_H
&lt;br&gt;+
&lt;br&gt;+#include &amp;lt;QGraphicsView&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;+
&lt;br&gt;+class QTimer;
&lt;br&gt;+class QGraphicsWidget;
&lt;br&gt;+
&lt;br&gt;+namespace Plasma
&lt;br&gt;+{
&lt;br&gt;+class FrameSvg;
&lt;br&gt;+class Label;
&lt;br&gt;+class Meter;
&lt;br&gt;+}
&lt;br&gt;+
&lt;br&gt;+class VolumeDisplayFrame : public QGraphicsView
&lt;br&gt;+{
&lt;br&gt;+ &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;Q_OBJECT
&lt;br&gt;+public:
&lt;br&gt;+ &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;VolumeDisplayFrame(QWidget *parent = 0);
&lt;br&gt;+
&lt;br&gt;+ &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;void setValue(int);
&lt;br&gt;+
&lt;br&gt;+ &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;void setIcon(const QString &amp;name);
&lt;br&gt;+
&lt;br&gt;+ &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;virtual QSize sizeHint() const;
&lt;br&gt;+
&lt;br&gt;+protected:
&lt;br&gt;+ &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;virtual void drawBackground(QPainter *painter, const QRectF &amp;rectF);
&lt;br&gt;+ &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;virtual void resizeEvent(QResizeEvent *);
&lt;br&gt;+ &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;virtual void showEvent(QShowEvent *);
&lt;br&gt;+
&lt;br&gt;+private:
&lt;br&gt;+ &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;Plasma::FrameSvg *m_background;
&lt;br&gt;+ &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;QGraphicsScene *m_scene;
&lt;br&gt;+ &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;QGraphicsWidget *m_container;
&lt;br&gt;+ &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;Plasma::Label *m_icon;
&lt;br&gt;+ &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;Plasma::Meter *m_meter;
&lt;br&gt;+ &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;QTimer *m_timer;
&lt;br&gt;+};
&lt;br&gt;+
&lt;br&gt;+#endif /* VOLUMEDISPLAYFRAME_H */
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	<title>jerkiness in video on using phonon on windows</title>
	<published>2009-11-20T07:25:08Z</published>
	<updated>2009-11-20T07:25:08Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Lilesh Ghadi</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Hi,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;We are subclassing QIODevice to pass audio-video data to a custom parser 
&lt;br&gt;(a Directshow filter implementation) using Phonon. Phonon creates a 
&lt;br&gt;graph that includes the custom parser and corresponding audio-video 
&lt;br&gt;decoders and rendering filters. The custom parser internally separates 
&lt;br&gt;audio and video, which is then decoded and rendered.
&lt;br&gt;When this sequence is played, jerkiness is observed periodically (spaced 
&lt;br&gt;every 2-3 seconds). By video jerkiness, I mean that previous frame is 
&lt;br&gt;again rendered causing a break in continuous viewing. It is important to 
&lt;br&gt;note that there is no break in audio.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;When the same file with the custom format is drag-n-dropped in to 
&lt;br&gt;Graphedit, it automatically creates a pipeline and renders audio-video 
&lt;br&gt;data satisfactorily (meaning no jerkiness and in audio-video 
&lt;br&gt;synchronization). From this, we have concluded that the directshow 
&lt;br&gt;filters by themselves do not have any bug and perform correctly.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;We are unable to figure out why this behaviour is observed on using 
&lt;br&gt;phonon in windows. Any help/suggestions in this matter will be appreciated.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Thanks.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;-- 
&lt;br&gt;Lilesh Ghadi 
&lt;br&gt;Lead Technologist | MunduTV
&lt;br&gt;www.geodesic.com 
&lt;br&gt;Tel: +91-9820482055 
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26383173</id>
	<title>RELEASE: GStreamer Bad Plug-ins 0.10.17 'Anny bobany'</title>
	<published>2009-11-16T17:54:18Z</published>
	<updated>2009-11-16T17:54:18Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Jan Schmidt-6</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">This mail announces the release of GStreamer Bad Plug-ins 0.10.17 'Anny bobany'.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;GStreamer Bad Plug-ins is a set of plug-ins that aren't up to par compared to
&lt;br&gt;the rest. They might be close to being good quality, but they're missing
&lt;br&gt;something - be it a good code review, some documentation, a set of tests, a
&lt;br&gt;real live maintainer, or some actual wide use.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;For more information, see &lt;a href=&quot;http://gstreamer.freedesktop.org/modules/gst-plugins-bad.html&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://gstreamer.freedesktop.org/modules/gst-plugins-bad.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;To file bugs, go to &lt;a href=&quot;http://bugzilla.gnome.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=GStreamer&amp;component=gst-plugins-bad&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://bugzilla.gnome.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=GStreamer&amp;component=gst-plugins-bad&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br&gt;Release notes for GStreamer Bad Plug-insÂ 0.10.17 &amp;quot;Anny bobany&amp;quot;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The GStreamer team is proud to announce a new release
&lt;br&gt;in the 0.10.x stable series of the
&lt;br&gt;GStreamer Bad Plug-ins.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The 0.10.x series is a stable series targeted at end users.
&lt;br&gt;It is not API or ABI compatible with the stable 0.8.x series.
&lt;br&gt;It is, however, parallel installable with the 0.8.x series.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;quot;That an accusation?&amp;quot;
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;No perfectly groomed moustache or any amount of fine clothing is going to
&lt;br&gt;cover up the truth - these plug-ins are Bad with a capital B.
&lt;br&gt;They look fine on the outside, and might even appear to get the job done, but
&lt;br&gt;at the end of the day they're a black sheep. Without a golden-haired angel
&lt;br&gt;to watch over them, they'll probably land in an unmarked grave at the final
&lt;br&gt;showdown.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Don't bug us about their quality - exercise your Free Software rights,
&lt;br&gt;patch up the offender and send us the patch on the fastest steed you can
&lt;br&gt;steal from the Confederates. Because you see, in this world, there's two
&lt;br&gt;kinds of people, my friend: those with loaded guns and those who dig.
&lt;br&gt;You dig.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;This module contains a set of plug-ins that aren't up to par compared to the
&lt;br&gt;rest. &amp;nbsp;They might be close to being good quality, but they're missing something
&lt;br&gt;- be it a good code review, some documentation, a set of tests, a real live
&lt;br&gt;maintainer, or some actual wide use. &amp;nbsp;If the blanks are filled in they might be
&lt;br&gt;upgraded to become part of either gst-plugins-good or gst-plugins-ugly,
&lt;br&gt;depending on the other factors.
&lt;br&gt;If the plug-ins break, you can't complain - instead, you can fix the
&lt;br&gt;problem and send us a patch, or bribe someone into fixing them for you.
&lt;br&gt;New contributors can start here for things to work on.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Other modules containing plug-ins are:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;gst-plugins-base
&lt;br&gt;contains a basic set of well-supported plug-ins
&lt;br&gt;gst-plugins-good
&lt;br&gt;contains a set of well-supported plug-ins under our preferred license
&lt;br&gt;gst-plugins-ugly
&lt;br&gt;contains a set of well-supported plug-ins, but might pose problems for
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; distributors
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Features of this release
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; * Fix DVD playback
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; * New elements: DTMF tone source and detector
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; * ASS subtitle support improvements
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; * Fix compilation on OS/X Snow Leopard
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; * Support DVB 3.3 API
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; * Inputselector fixes
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Bugs fixed in this release
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; * 602106 : Bad atom size calculation
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; * 574434 : [camerabin] Changing default video/audio source for Windows
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; * 584361 : gppmux Support for 3gr6
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; * 586929 : [midi] Doesn't handle push
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; * 595161 : [mpegtsdemux] Internal dataflow problem with some streams.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; * 598552 : faac: Clean up defaults
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; * 598763 : New plugin: aiffmux
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; * 598808 : mpegpsmux: Fix CLFAGS typo and reorder flags
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; * 599050 : [mpegvideoparse] Does not check width/height range
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; * 599469 : resindvd: problems pre-rolling in the absence of audio
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; * 600454 : aacparse detecting aac file as mpegversion=2 instead of 4
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; * 600461 : [zbar] Over-eager detection of barcodes
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; * 600662 : [assrender] Doesn't synchronize subtitle buffers
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; * 600707 : autoconvert depends on function from core 0.10.26
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; * 600724 : celt: fails to build against celt-0.7
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; * 599903 : Scaletempo plugin stops early when playing slowly
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Download
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;You can find source releases of gst-plugins-bad in the download directory:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://gstreamer.freedesktop.org/src/gst-plugins-bad/&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://gstreamer.freedesktop.org/src/gst-plugins-bad/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;GStreamer Homepage
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;More details can be found on the project's website:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://gstreamer.freedesktop.org/&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://gstreamer.freedesktop.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Support and Bugs
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;We use GNOME's bugzilla for bug reports and feature requests:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://bugzilla.gnome.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=GStreamer&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://bugzilla.gnome.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=GStreamer&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Developers
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;GStreamer is stored in Git, hosted at git.freedesktop.org, and can be cloned from there.
&lt;br&gt;Interested developers of the core library, plug-ins, and applications should
&lt;br&gt;subscribe to the gstreamer-devel list. If there is sufficient interest we
&lt;br&gt;will create more lists as necessary.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 
&lt;br&gt;Applications
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 
&lt;br&gt;Contributors to this release
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; * Bastian Hecht
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; * Chris Hills
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; * David Schleef
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; * Edward Hervey
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; * Gabriel Millaire
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; * Jan Schmidt
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; * Julien Isorce
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; * Michael Smith
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; * Olivier CrÃªte
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; * RenÃ© Stadler
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; * Robert Swain
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; * Sebastian DrÃ¶ge
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; * Stefan Kost
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; * Teemu Katajisto
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; * Thiago Santos
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; * Tim-Philipp MÃ¼ller
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; * Tommi MyÃ¶hÃ¤nen
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; * Wim Taymans
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