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last.fm download links
by liftarn
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A lot of indie artists and labels put their albums up for free download at last.fm so I think http://musicbrainz.org/doc/WhatNotToLinkTo should be clarified.
It also has some other inaccuracies. "Last.fm uses MusicBrainz's data, so linking artists or releases to Last.fm is recursive and unnecessary." Partially true. It also seem to colelct data from Amazon and possibly iTunes as well, but more importantly it also uses data submitted by the artist or record company. If that is the case it's no less reliable than the official site. "Last.fm's data is based on the people submitting their tags and MusicBrainz's own data" Partially true as mentioned above. |
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Re: last.fm download links
by Pavan Chander
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I believe the "What Not To Link To" guideline refers to creating Artist or Release relationships like "discography at", "biography at", "fan site at", and in last.fm's case, not using the site as proof in an edit note.
You may be correct that some of the data is submitted by the artist/record company, but I certainly don't know what kind of data they may have added, and from what I can tell there is no precise way to determine the source of the data, so whether or not some of the data comes from an "official" source is irrelevant if I can't determine if *this* data did or not. Having said that, if you want to add a "Free Download Relationship" link to last.fm, go right ahead! I've done it a few times myself. In case you haven't seen it we have a guideline for the "Free Download Relationship": http://musicbrainz.org/doc/Free_Download_Relationship_Type. The quality of the (meta)data on last.fm, in my opinion, is very poor, but if a free download is provided then there aren't any "quality" problems (except for perhaps bitrate :) ).
The only issue that I can see arising is if free downloads are provided on last.fm when the copyright holder has not given permission that they be released, I'm not too knowledgeable on how songs can be added for download, so someone else may have to chime in on that point.
Pavan Chander // navap On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 10:17 AM, liftarn <liftarn@...> wrote:
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Re: last.fm download links
by liftarn
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Pavan Chander skrev: > I believe the "What Not To Link To" guideline refers to creating Artist or > Release relationships like "discography at", "biography at", "fan site > at", and in last.fm's case, not using the site as proof in an edit note. I did that too until I was told a download link to last.fm was unacceptable. That's why I suggest the wording should be changed. I also noticed that http://musicbrainz.org/doc/WhatNotToLinkTo says "The data submitted by the label companies are simply some numbers and the permission to play their tracks.". That is clearly inaccurate or do anyone really think last.fm have every single piece of music available so that if some obscure band from Ukraine gives them permission they just say "Ok, we'll just have to get the CD from our storage and rip it and then it will be playable at our site.". > You may be correct that some of the data is submitted by the artist/record > company, but I certainly don't know what kind of data they may have added, > and from what I can tell there is no precise way to determine the source > of the data, so whether or not some of the data comes from an "official" > source is irrelevant if I can't determine if *this* data did or not. If the album is at least playable then the tune must have been uploaded either by the artist or the label so that info you can trust. Non-playable albums can come from some site last.fm cooperates with (MusicBrainz, Amazon and iTunes I think). > The only issue that I can see arising is if free downloads are provided on > last.fm when the copyright holder has not given permission that they be > released, I'm not too knowledgeable on how songs can be added for > download, so someone else may have to chime in on that point. Strictly speaking it is their problem. I don't think they have a pattern matching system to automaticly determine if a track is a copyright violation. -- http://www.interface1.net _______________________________________________ MusicBrainz-users mailing list MusicBrainz-users@... http://lists.musicbrainz.org/mailman/listinfo/musicbrainz-users |
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