launch shell command from context menu? pdf handler? epiphany?

[Janek Kozicki]

Hi,

1. Question: calling shell commands from context menu?

Bookmarks->Edit Bookmarks->Smart Bookmarks Toolbar (select any
bookmark)->More Properties (on the bottom of this window) opens a
dialog box.

There I can check option "Add to context menu"


Now if I right click on a link - this smart bookmark appears in the
context menu. This bookmark is invoked with the right-clicked URL.

I want to launch shell commands with this URL. Is that possible?

basically I want to call 'opera -newwindow $URL'.


2. Question: pdf handler - save files to HDD?

Clicking on pdf always crashes galeon on debian etch. We have been
trying to debug it for at least half a year with no success. I have
received much help from this list with regard to this problem -
thank you a lot for this. But none of the proposed solutions worked for
me.

So finally another solution came to my mind: instead of calling the
pdf plugin (acroread) I want galeon to NOT open pdf files in a tab
(because it crashes), but to open a download window, and ask to save
a pdf to HDD. Is that possible?


3. Question: when should I switch to epiphany?

AFAIK galeon has been discontinued, and original galeon developers
are now focusing on merging galeon with epiphany (is that true?). I
wanted to ask what is the status of this "merge". Is epiphany
currently as functional as discontinued galeon is functional
currently? When should I switch to epiphany?

I'm not using GNOME at all. Only rox+sawfish. I don't mind if GNOME
(or KDE) libraries are installed on my machine (I have enough free
space ;) but I care about browser speed.

- is epiphany strictly GNOME dependent?
- does it mean that epiphany will be slower for me than galeon
  (because extra unused GNOME libs need to load)?
- will epiphany work without gnome session running?


best regards, and many thanks for your time.
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[Paul Dwerryhouse]

On Sat, Mar 08, 2008 at 03:23:41AM +0100, Janek Kozicki wrote:
> 3. Question: when should I switch to epiphany?

Funny you should ask this today, because this morning I decided to try
out epiphany once more, with a view to switching, and I've now decided
that the answer to that question is "never".

Epiphany's bookmarks system is utterly disfunctional. It may well be
more intuitive to a person who has never used a web-browser before, but
for those of us who have been using one since the days of Mosaic, it's
next to useless. One of the things I really like about Galeon is to be
able to store bookmarks in a folder on a toolbar, and then middle click
it to be able to open them all up at once. I could see no easy way of
doing this at all under Epiphany.

[See http://leapster.org/tmp/galeon1.jpg for an example of what I mean].

 From the very beginning, Epiphany has been developed with a strange
Gnome utopian user-interface mentality - we saw this prior to the fork,
when Galeon lost all of its useful features. That's all very well, it's
their application, they have every right to do that. But for me to
switch to Epiphany would mean having to put up with every insane UI
change - and feature removal - that a developer gets a bee in their
bonnet about, and frankly, I just can't be bothered wrestling with
Epiphany to get it to do what I want.

While Galeon still works for me, I intend to keep using it (and I have a
small patch prepared that I'm about to send to the devel list).

> - is epiphany strictly GNOME dependent?

It's as Gnome dependent as Galeon is; they both require gnome libraries
to run.

> - will epiphany work without gnome session running?

Yep. I was running it under fvwm.

Cheers,

Paul

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[Janek Kozicki]

Paul Dwerryhouse said:     (by the date of Sat, 8 Mar 2008 15:52:44 +1100)

> On Sat, Mar 08, 2008 at 03:23:41AM +0100, Janek Kozicki wrote:
> > 3. Question: when should I switch to epiphany?
>
> I've now decided that the answer to that question is "never".

I see, thanks for your answer. Is galeon dead now, or someone else
took the development over?

I'd be really glad if the pdf issue got resolved somehow.. :/ If only
galeon offered to save pdf to disc, without displaying it. It's
crashing for about a year now.

Calling bash commands from context menu would make galeon extremely
powerful ;)


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[Henrik Grindal Bakken]

Janek Kozicki <janek_listy@...> writes:

> Paul Dwerryhouse said: (by the date of Sat, 8 Mar 2008 15:52:44
> +1100)
>
>> On Sat, Mar 08, 2008 at 03:23:41AM +0100, Janek Kozicki wrote:
>> > 3. Question: when should I switch to epiphany?
>>
>> I've now decided that the answer to that question is "never".
>
> I see, thanks for your answer. Is galeon dead now, or someone else
> took the development over?

There was a release (2.0.4) not too long back, but I think they are in
absolutely strict keep-up-with-gecko-engine mode.  Would be great if
someone stepped up to take it over, but I certainly don't have the
time.

> I'd be really glad if the pdf issue got resolved somehow.. :/ If
> only galeon offered to save pdf to disc, without displaying it. It's
> crashing for about a year now.

Mine crash too -- not always, but rather often.  However, I /do/ get
the option to save to disk.  I think you can configure this somewhere
in gnome-control-center or something, but I can't seem to find it
now.

It might be stuff under "File Management", and perhaps "Executable
Text Files".  Mine is "Ask each time".  I also have "Always open in
browser windows" unchecked.

Mind you, starting gnome-control-center will get gnome to start up
gnome-settings-daemon, and generally fuck things up royally.  Now it's
sitting here taking over my window manager, eating key strokes,
setting background.  Gah!  Had to re-run xmodmap and everything.

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[Janek Kozicki]

Henrik Grindal Bakken said:     (by the date of Mon, 10 Mar 2008 14:06:08 +0100)

> > I see, thanks for your answer. Is galeon dead now, or someone else
> > took the development over?
>
> There was a release (2.0.4) not too long back, but I think they are in
> absolutely strict keep-up-with-gecko-engine mode.  

yeah, I just upgraded yesterday.


> Would be great if someone stepped up to take it over, but I certainly
> don't have the time.

Heh. Now I got the impression that maybe something is wrong with me.
I am using softwares that are old and dying, and I refuse to switch
because they are so good.

The other software I speak about is sawfish. And I am the one who
stepped up to revive it. Lots of sawfish users (me also) are happy
about that. So, since now I maintain sawfish, I can't offer to do
that with galeon. And also I never looked into its guts. Perhaps I
should subscribe to galeon-dev to be a bit closer and follow whats
up? Is that list active nowadays?


> Mine crash too -- not always, but rather often.  However, I /do/ get
> the option to save to disk.  I think you can configure this somewhere
> in gnome-control-center or something, but I can't seem to find it
> now.
>
> It might be stuff under "File Management", and perhaps "Executable
> Text Files".  Mine is "Ask each time".  I also have "Always open in
> browser windows" unchecked.

OK, I will try it a bit later when I'm prepared for Xorg fuckup.
Thanks a lot :)


> Mind you, starting gnome-control-center will get gnome to start up
> gnome-settings-daemon, and generally fuck things up royally.  Now it's
> sitting here taking over my window manager, eating key strokes,
> setting background.  Gah!  Had to re-run xmodmap and everything.

heh, galeon is so good, that we are even going to suffer such
nuisances like pdf crashing, and royal fuckup of xsession when
changing preferences. Makes me wanna laugh ;-)

If anybody takes over I wish the first thing to do, would be to
separate galeon from gnome a bit more: move all preferences from
gnome-control-center-whatever into galeon Menu Edit->Preferences

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[Mișu Moldovan]

Janek Kozicki <janek_listy@...> a scris:

> Henrik Grindal Bakken said:     (by the date of Mon, 10 Mar 2008 14:06:08 +0100)
>
> > Mind you, starting gnome-control-center will get gnome to start up
> > gnome-settings-daemon, and generally fuck things up royally.  Now it's
> > sitting here taking over my window manager, eating key strokes,
> > setting background.  Gah!  Had to re-run xmodmap and everything.
>
> heh, galeon is so good, that we are even going to suffer such
> nuisances like pdf crashing, and royal fuckup of xsession when
> changing preferences. Makes me wanna laugh ;-)
>
> If anybody takes over I wish the first thing to do, would be to
> separate galeon from gnome a bit more: move all preferences from
> gnome-control-center-whatever into galeon Menu Edit->Preferences

I am also still using Galeon at home in Debian Stable Etch (compiled
with Firefox) and at work in Gentoo (compiled with Seamonkey). Although
it's posible with Firefox 2.0 to replicate all the Galeon features in
regards to browsing, sessions, tabs, zooming, cookies management etc., I
couldn't get used with the ugly interface of Firefox (custom tabs and
other badly integrated widgets).

However, Firefox 3.0 is shaping quite nicely and almost all its widgets
are indistinguishable from the GTK ones. My wet dream would be a Galeon
browser compiled against the Firefox 3.0 engine (Mozilla 1.9?) with
AdBlock Plus and NoScript equivalents built-in.

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Henrik Grindal Bakken wrote:

> Janek Kozicki <janek_listy@...> writes:
>
> > I'd be really glad if the pdf issue got resolved somehow.. :/ If
> > only galeon offered to save pdf to disc, without displaying it. It's
> > crashing for about a year now.
>
> Mine crash too -- not always, but rather often.  However, I /do/ get
> the option to save to disk.  I think you can configure this somewhere
> in gnome-control-center or something, but I can't seem to find it
> now.

Here (Gentoo) it didn't crash, but searching was awfully slow since the
latest acroread update.

What happens if you just delete the plugin (nppdf.so)?

Regards...
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[Janek Kozicki]

Michael Mauch said:     (by the date of Mon, 10 Mar 2008 23:20:45 +0100)

> What happens if you just delete the plugin (nppdf.so)?

well, it helps. Sort of. Because now galeon asks to save the file.
But also .pdf are no longer working in firefox.

And currently in fact, when during browsing I encounter some .pdf and
not click accidentally on it (which would crash galeon) I open it
using firefox or opera. Or eventually I download it.

In fact I'm wondering *which* nppdf galeon is using. If only I could
delete this one. I have following files & symlinks:

  /usr/lib/iceape/plugins/nppdf.so -> ../../Adobe/Reader8/Browser/intellinux/nppdf.so
  /usr/lib/Adobe/Reader8/Browser/intellinux/nppdf.so
  /usr/lib/iceweasel/plugins/nppdf.so -> ../../Adobe/Reader8/Browser/intellinux/nppdf.so
  /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/nppdf.so -> ../../Adobe/Reader8/Browser/intellinux/nppdf.so


(debian etch)

but anyway, thanks for the suggestion.
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[Janek Kozicki]

Henrik Grindal Bakken said:     (by the date of Mon, 10 Mar 2008 14:06:08 +0100)

> in gnome-control-center or something, but I can't seem to find it
<snip>
> It might be stuff under "File Management", and perhaps "Executable
> Text Files".  Mine is "Ask each time".  I also have "Always open in
> browser windows" unchecked.

OK, so I tried it. And in gnome-control-center "File Management" it
was already configured like that for me. So apparently it's not this
configuration option.

anyone has some other ideas?

PS: it's strange that this file doesn't exist:
  /usr/lib/galeon/plugins/nppdf.so -> ../../Adobe/Reader8/Browser/intellinux/nppdf.so

Even the directory /usr/lib/galeon/ doesn't exist.

looks like galeon tries to use the symlink for iceweasel (firefox?)

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Janek Kozicki wrote:

> In fact I'm wondering *which* nppdf galeon is using. If only I could
> delete this one. I have following files & symlinks:
>
>   /usr/lib/iceape/plugins/nppdf.so -> ../../Adobe/Reader8/Browser/intellinux/nppdf.so
>   /usr/lib/Adobe/Reader8/Browser/intellinux/nppdf.so
>   /usr/lib/iceweasel/plugins/nppdf.so -> ../../Adobe/Reader8/Browser/intellinux/nppdf.so
>   /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/nppdf.so -> ../../Adobe/Reader8/Browser/intellinux/nppdf.so

If you turn on plugin.expose_full_path in about:config, can you see the
symlinks or only real file?

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[Janek Kozicki]

Michael Mauch said:     (by the date of Wed, 12 Mar 2008 19:15:07 +0100)

> If you turn on plugin.expose_full_path in about:config, can you see the
> symlinks or only real file?

Apparently only the real file (from about:plugins) :

  File name: /usr/lib/Adobe/Reader8/Browser/intellinux/nppdf.so

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