libsndfile bundling (was Re: [sc-users] build from source problem)

[Dan Stowell]

2009/4/19, Josh Parmenter <josh@...>:
> In the build script (the command lines to the XCode projects), is there a
> way to say PPC or i386 only? This would avoid the libsndfile conflict
> problem.

We could/should do this, yes

>  Actually, perhaps only those of us who build to distribute need the special
> libsndfile.... perhaps we should think about changing this.

DEFINITELY. Actually the libsndfile inclusion is highly problematic:
the sndfile.h is mac-specific. On windows you need to overwrite it
with the windows-specific file, and if you don't know that this is
needed, you get weird errors.

Also including binary libs in the "main" source tree is a pain in the
arse because it ends up being (pointlessly) included in e.g. source
bundles, where for example a linux user will download it and it'll be
twice the size because of binary libs for machines they aren't using.

I was going to post-3.3 suggest moving it out of the main "trunk"
folder into some separate "aux/mac/libsndfile" folder or something.
Maybe let's discuss it now. What do you reckon?

Dan

>  On Apr 19, 2009, at 11:39 AM, Aaron Gervais wrote:
>
>
> > I did use the script, so that's not the issue. I will try uninstalling
> libsndfile and doing it that way.
> >
> > thx
> > a
> >
> > On 19 Apr 2009, at 11:25:29AM, Dan Stowell wrote:
> >
> >
> > > Hi -
> > >
> > > You don't need to build "SuperColliderAU" unless you want to (it
> > > provides scsynth as an Audio Unit).
> > >
> > > 2009/4/19, Aaron Gervais <aaron.gervais@...>:
> > >
> > > > Hi All,
> > > >
> > > > I've been trying off and on for the past few weeks to build from
> source
> > > > without luck. About a month ago, I switched out the hard drive in my
> MacBook
> > > > Pro (1st gen), reinstalled Leopard and XCode from scratch on the new
> drive,
> > > > and migrated my data back in. So I've got a squeaky clean OS but I'm
> unable
> > > > to build SuperCollider, either with the scripts or manually in XCode.
> I
> > > > tried installing libsndfile but that didn't help.  Any suggestions?
> I've
> > > > tried maybe 4 or 5 different svn checkouts now, I always get the same
> > > > message:
> > > >
> > > > PhaseScriptExecution
> > > > "/Applications/SuperCollider3/Intermediate Build
> > > >
> Files/SuperColliderAU.build/Script-D5F6AB340EF42BC4002DDA8C.sh"
> > > >  cd /Applications/SuperCollider3
> > > >  /bin/sh -c
> "\"/Applications/SuperCollider3/Intermediate
> > > > Build
> > > >
> Files/SuperColliderAU.build/Script-D5F6AB340EF42BC4002DDA8C.sh\""
> > > > cp: /Applications/SuperCollider3/build/plugins/*.scx:
> No
> > > > such file or directory
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > This error message suggests that you're building "SuperColliderAU"
> > > without first building the "Plugins" target (since the missing *.scx
> > > files are the plugins that get built by the Plugins target).
> > >
> > > I would have thought that the SuperColliderAU should not be included
> > > in a default build, unless you ask for it, but maybe it ended up
> > > getting included.
> > >
> > > Did you use Xcode GUI to build, or did you use the script?
> > >
> > > If not, maybe try the script and see if it works. In a Terminal do
> > > something similar to this:
> > >
> > > cd SuperCollider3
> > > ./compile.sh
> > >
> > > Let us know if that works for you...
> > >
> > > Dan
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > === BUILDING AGGREGATE TARGET All OF PROJECT Synth WITH CONFIGURATION
> > > > Deployment NOT USING PER-CONFIGURATION BUILD DIRECTORIES ===
> > > >
> > > > Checking Dependencies...
> > > > ** BUILD FAILED **
> > > >
> > > > The following build commands failed:
> > > > scsynth:
> > > >      Ld "/Applications/SuperCollider3/Intermediate
> Build
> > > > Files/scsynth.build/Objects-normal/ppc/scsynth"
> normal ppc
> > > > SuperColliderAU:
> > > >      Ld "/Applications/SuperCollider3/Intermediate
> Build
> > > >
> Files/SuperColliderAU.build/Objects-normal/ppc/SuperColliderAU"
> > > > normal ppc
> > > > (2 failures)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Aaron
> > > >
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[Josh Parmenter]

well - I have both intel and PPC. We can-

-make XCode projects platform specific again
-I'll install libsndfile on both my machines and...
-make PPC and intel builds separate

this also allows for more up to date libsndfile. we remove libsndfile  
from the source.

I don't mind doing this. Others?

Josh

On Apr 19, 2009, at 12:09 PM, Dan Stowell wrote:

> 2009/4/19, Josh Parmenter <josh@...>:
>> In the build script (the command lines to the XCode projects), is  
>> there a
>> way to say PPC or i386 only? This would avoid the libsndfile conflict
>> problem.
>
> We could/should do this, yes
>
>> Actually, perhaps only those of us who build to distribute need the  
>> special
>> libsndfile.... perhaps we should think about changing this.
>
> DEFINITELY. Actually the libsndfile inclusion is highly problematic:
> the sndfile.h is mac-specific. On windows you need to overwrite it
> with the windows-specific file, and if you don't know that this is
> needed, you get weird errors.
>
> Also including binary libs in the "main" source tree is a pain in the
> arse because it ends up being (pointlessly) included in e.g. source
> bundles, where for example a linux user will download it and it'll be
> twice the size because of binary libs for machines they aren't using.
>
> I was going to post-3.3 suggest moving it out of the main "trunk"
> folder into some separate "aux/mac/libsndfile" folder or something.
> Maybe let's discuss it now. What do you reckon?
>
> Dan
>
>
>> On Apr 19, 2009, at 11:39 AM, Aaron Gervais wrote:
>>
>>
>>> I did use the script, so that's not the issue. I will try  
>>> uninstalling
>> libsndfile and doing it that way.
>>>
>>> thx
>>> a
>>>
>>> On 19 Apr 2009, at 11:25:29AM, Dan Stowell wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi -
>>>>
>>>> You don't need to build "SuperColliderAU" unless you want to (it
>>>> provides scsynth as an Audio Unit).
>>>>
>>>> 2009/4/19, Aaron Gervais <aaron.gervais@...>:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>
>>>>> I've been trying off and on for the past few weeks to build from
>> source
>>>>> without luck. About a month ago, I switched out the hard drive  
>>>>> in my
>> MacBook
>>>>> Pro (1st gen), reinstalled Leopard and XCode from scratch on the  
>>>>> new
>> drive,
>>>>> and migrated my data back in. So I've got a squeaky clean OS but  
>>>>> I'm
>> unable
>>>>> to build SuperCollider, either with the scripts or manually in  
>>>>> XCode.
>> I
>>>>> tried installing libsndfile but that didn't help.  Any  
>>>>> suggestions?
>> I've
>>>>> tried maybe 4 or 5 different svn checkouts now, I always get the  
>>>>> same
>>>>> message:
>>>>>
>>>>> PhaseScriptExecution
>>>>> "/Applications/SuperCollider3/Intermediate Build
>>>>>
>> Files/SuperColliderAU.build/Script-D5F6AB340EF42BC4002DDA8C.sh"
>>>>> cd /Applications/SuperCollider3
>>>>> /bin/sh -c
>> "\"/Applications/SuperCollider3/Intermediate
>>>>> Build
>>>>>
>> Files/SuperColliderAU.build/Script-D5F6AB340EF42BC4002DDA8C.sh\""
>>>>> cp: /Applications/SuperCollider3/build/plugins/*.scx:
>> No
>>>>> such file or directory
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> This error message suggests that you're building "SuperColliderAU"
>>>> without first building the "Plugins" target (since the missing  
>>>> *.scx
>>>> files are the plugins that get built by the Plugins target).
>>>>
>>>> I would have thought that the SuperColliderAU should not be  
>>>> included
>>>> in a default build, unless you ask for it, but maybe it ended up
>>>> getting included.
>>>>
>>>> Did you use Xcode GUI to build, or did you use the script?
>>>>
>>>> If not, maybe try the script and see if it works. In a Terminal do
>>>> something similar to this:
>>>>
>>>> cd SuperCollider3
>>>> ./compile.sh
>>>>
>>>> Let us know if that works for you...
>>>>
>>>> Dan
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> === BUILDING AGGREGATE TARGET All OF PROJECT Synth WITH  
>>>>> CONFIGURATION
>>>>> Deployment NOT USING PER-CONFIGURATION BUILD DIRECTORIES ===
>>>>>
>>>>> Checking Dependencies...
>>>>> ** BUILD FAILED **
>>>>>
>>>>> The following build commands failed:
>>>>> scsynth:
>>>>>     Ld "/Applications/SuperCollider3/Intermediate
>> Build
>>>>> Files/scsynth.build/Objects-normal/ppc/scsynth"
>> normal ppc
>>>>> SuperColliderAU:
>>>>>     Ld "/Applications/SuperCollider3/Intermediate
>> Build
>>>>>
>> Files/SuperColliderAU.build/Objects-normal/ppc/SuperColliderAU"
>>>>> normal ppc
>>>>> (2 failures)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Aaron
>>>>>
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>>
>> “Every composer – at all times and in all cases – gives his own
>> interpretation of how modern society is structured: whether  
>> actively or
>> passively, consciously or unconsciously, he makes choices in this  
>> regard. He
>> may be conservative or he may subject himself to continual renewal;  
>> or he
>> may strive for a revolutionary, historical or social palingenesis."  
>> - Luigi
>> Nono
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[Dan Stowell]

Well IMO we should still be willing-and-able to run UB builds on a
single machine (greatly reduces dev hassle), but we should make sure
users can build non-UB if they want.

I've checked in a tweak to ./compile.sh and ./clean-compile.sh (svn
rev 9078) which enables this. Have a look and see what you think.

It is convenient to have a UB libsndfile available, and keeping it in
SVN is fine, but it should be outside of the "trunk" for the reasons
I've mentioned... I wouldn't vote for removing it altogether.

Dan

2009/4/19, Josh Parmenter <josh@...>:

> well - I have both intel and PPC. We can-
>
>  -make XCode projects platform specific again
>  -I'll install libsndfile on both my machines and...
>  -make PPC and intel builds separate
>
>  this also allows for more up to date libsndfile. we remove libsndfile from
> the source.
>
>  I don't mind doing this. Others?
>
>  Josh
>
>
>  On Apr 19, 2009, at 12:09 PM, Dan Stowell wrote:
>
>
> >
> > 2009/4/19, Josh Parmenter <josh@...>:
> >
> > > In the build script (the command lines to the XCode projects), is there
> a
> > > way to say PPC or i386 only? This would avoid the libsndfile conflict
> > > problem.
> > >
> >
> > We could/should do this, yes
> >
> >
> > > Actually, perhaps only those of us who build to distribute need the
> special
> > > libsndfile.... perhaps we should think about changing this.
> > >
> >
> > DEFINITELY. Actually the libsndfile inclusion is highly problematic:
> > the sndfile.h is mac-specific. On windows you need to overwrite it
> > with the windows-specific file, and if you don't know that this is
> > needed, you get weird errors.
> >
> > Also including binary libs in the "main" source tree is a pain in the
> > arse because it ends up being (pointlessly) included in e.g. source
> > bundles, where for example a linux user will download it and it'll be
> > twice the size because of binary libs for machines they aren't using.
> >
> > I was going to post-3.3 suggest moving it out of the main "trunk"
> > folder into some separate "aux/mac/libsndfile" folder or something.
> > Maybe let's discuss it now. What do you reckon?
> >
> > Dan
> >
> >
> >
> > > On Apr 19, 2009, at 11:39 AM, Aaron Gervais wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > I did use the script, so that's not the issue. I will try uninstalling
> > > >
> > > libsndfile and doing it that way.
> > >
> > > >
> > > > thx
> > > > a
> > > >
> > > > On 19 Apr 2009, at 11:25:29AM, Dan Stowell wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Hi -
> > > > >
> > > > > You don't need to build "SuperColliderAU" unless you want to (it
> > > > > provides scsynth as an Audio Unit).
> > > > >
> > > > > 2009/4/19, Aaron Gervais <aaron.gervais@...>:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hi All,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I've been trying off and on for the past few weeks to build from
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > source
> > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > without luck. About a month ago, I switched out the hard drive in
> my
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > MacBook
> > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Pro (1st gen), reinstalled Leopard and XCode from scratch on the
> new
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > drive,
> > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > and migrated my data back in. So I've got a squeaky clean OS but
> I'm
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > unable
> > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > to build SuperCollider, either with the scripts or manually in
> XCode.
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > I
> > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > tried installing libsndfile but that didn't help.  Any
> suggestions?
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > I've
> > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > tried maybe 4 or 5 different svn checkouts now, I always get the
> same
> > > > > > message:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > PhaseScriptExecution
> > > > > > "/Applications/SuperCollider3/Intermediate Build
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> Files/SuperColliderAU.build/Script-D5F6AB340EF42BC4002DDA8C.sh"
> > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > cd /Applications/SuperCollider3
> > > > > > /bin/sh -c
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > "\"/Applications/SuperCollider3/Intermediate
> > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Build
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> Files/SuperColliderAU.build/Script-D5F6AB340EF42BC4002DDA8C.sh\""
> > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > cp:
> /Applications/SuperCollider3/build/plugins/*.scx:
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > No
> > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > such file or directory
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > This error message suggests that you're building "SuperColliderAU"
> > > > > without first building the "Plugins" target (since the missing *.scx
> > > > > files are the plugins that get built by the Plugins target).
> > > > >
> > > > > I would have thought that the SuperColliderAU should not be included
> > > > > in a default build, unless you ask for it, but maybe it ended up
> > > > > getting included.
> > > > >
> > > > > Did you use Xcode GUI to build, or did you use the script?
> > > > >
> > > > > If not, maybe try the script and see if it works. In a Terminal do
> > > > > something similar to this:
> > > > >
> > > > > cd SuperCollider3
> > > > > ./compile.sh
> > > > >
> > > > > Let us know if that works for you...
> > > > >
> > > > > Dan
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > === BUILDING AGGREGATE TARGET All OF PROJECT Synth WITH
> CONFIGURATION
> > > > > > Deployment NOT USING PER-CONFIGURATION BUILD DIRECTORIES ===
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Checking Dependencies...
> > > > > > ** BUILD FAILED **
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The following build commands failed:
> > > > > > scsynth:
> > > > > >    Ld "/Applications/SuperCollider3/Intermediate
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > Build
> > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Files/scsynth.build/Objects-normal/ppc/scsynth"
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > normal ppc
> > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > SuperColliderAU:
> > > > > >    Ld "/Applications/SuperCollider3/Intermediate
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > Build
> > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> Files/SuperColliderAU.build/Objects-normal/ppc/SuperColliderAU"
> > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > normal ppc
> > > > > > (2 failures)
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > Aaron
> > > > > >
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