localization problem with xref elements

[Oliver Christen]

Dear all

the version of docbook xml is 4.4
the version of docbook xsl is 1.73.2
(these are not my choice and I dont think I can upgrade as I dont have decisional power for that)

im having some problem with french translation,
a string which is automatically inserted by the xsl transformation is not translated.

the problem is with <xref linkend="xxx" />
I get "the section called “xxx”" instead of the "la section intitulée « xxx »"

the string "the section called" appear several time in the language xml files in docbook-xsl-1.73.2 so im not sure which one is used, but the translation seems to exist for all the ids in the fr.xml

I have tried adding a "lang="fr"" parameter in my <book> element and also in my <xref> element, but it didnt change anything

I looked at the list archive, found some related posts but sadly no solution

any idea ?

Thanks in advance
Best regards
Oliver

[Daniel Leidert]

Am Mittwoch, den 19.08.2009, 17:40 +0200 schrieb Oliver Christen:

> the version of docbook xml is 4.4
> the version of docbook xsl is 1.73.2
> (these are not my choice and I dont think I can upgrade as I dont have
> decisional power for that)
>
> im having some problem with french translation,
> a string which is automatically inserted by the xsl transformation is
> not translated.
>
> the problem is with <xref linkend="xxx" />
> I get "the section called “xxx”" instead of the "la section intitulée
> « xxx »"
>
> the string "the section called" appear several time in the language
> xml files in docbook-xsl-1.73.2 so im not sure which one is used, but
> the translation seems to exist for all the ids in the fr.xml
>
> I have tried adding a "lang="fr"" parameter in my <book> element and
> also in my <xref> element, but it didnt change anything
>
> I looked at the list archive, found some related posts but sadly no
> solution

Can you provide a minimal testcase to reproduce (including your
customization layer)? Then we could also take a look, if you do things
right :)

> any idea ?

If it's caused by an outdated or incomplete French translation, then you
can simply "fix" the problem in your customization layer.

http://www.sagehill.net/docbookxsl/CustomGentext.html

Regards, Daniel


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[Bob Stayton]

Hi,
It doesn't seem to be caused by an incomplete translation, as the text in
common/fr.xml in 1.73.2 has the translated text.  When I test an xref with
<book lang="fr">, I get the translated text for the xref.  A more detailed
example would help.

Bob Stayton
Sagehill Enterprises
bobs@...


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From: "Daniel Leidert" <daniel.leidert.spam@...>
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Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 9:19 AM
Subject: Re: [docbook-apps] localization problem with xref elements


Am Mittwoch, den 19.08.2009, 17:40 +0200 schrieb Oliver Christen:

> the version of docbook xml is 4.4
> the version of docbook xsl is 1.73.2
> (these are not my choice and I dont think I can upgrade as I dont have
> decisional power for that)
>
> im having some problem with french translation,
> a string which is automatically inserted by the xsl transformation is
> not translated.
>
> the problem is with <xref linkend="xxx" />
> I get "the section called “xxx”" instead of the "la section intitulée
> « xxx »"
>
> the string "the section called" appear several time in the language
> xml files in docbook-xsl-1.73.2 so im not sure which one is used, but
> the translation seems to exist for all the ids in the fr.xml
>
> I have tried adding a "lang="fr"" parameter in my <book> element and
> also in my <xref> element, but it didnt change anything
>
> I looked at the list archive, found some related posts but sadly no
> solution

Can you provide a minimal testcase to reproduce (including your
customization layer)? Then we could also take a look, if you do things
right :)

> any idea ?

If it's caused by an outdated or incomplete French translation, then you
can simply "fix" the problem in your customization layer.

http://www.sagehill.net/docbookxsl/CustomGentext.html

Regards, Daniel


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[Oliver Christen]

Thank you Bob, Daniel

It seems my problem was that I didnt add the lang="fr" to the main xml file.
The documentation is split between many files, all merged together using
<xi:include ...
and I only tried to set the lang paramter to the included xml file.
now I have added it to the main xml and I get correct translations for the
xref string.

im such a noob, im really sorry for bothering you with such issue. at least
I know a little more about how translations are done and how I can
customise/override elements.

thank you very much
best regards
Oliver


----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Stayton" <bobs@...>
To: "Daniel Leidert" <daniel.leidert.spam@...>;
<docbook-apps@...>
Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 7:01 PM
Subject: Re: [docbook-apps] localization problem with xref elements


Hi,
It doesn't seem to be caused by an incomplete translation, as the text in
common/fr.xml in 1.73.2 has the translated text.  When I test an xref with
<book lang="fr">, I get the translated text for the xref.  A more detailed
example would help.

Bob Stayton
Sagehill Enterprises
bobs@...


----- Original Message -----
From: "Daniel Leidert" <daniel.leidert.spam@...>
To: <docbook-apps@...>
Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 9:19 AM
Subject: Re: [docbook-apps] localization problem with xref elements


Am Mittwoch, den 19.08.2009, 17:40 +0200 schrieb Oliver Christen:

> the version of docbook xml is 4.4
> the version of docbook xsl is 1.73.2
> (these are not my choice and I dont think I can upgrade as I dont have
> decisional power for that)
>
> im having some problem with french translation,
> a string which is automatically inserted by the xsl transformation is
> not translated.
>
> the problem is with <xref linkend="xxx" />
> I get "the section called “xxx”" instead of the "la section intitulée
> « xxx »"
>
> the string "the section called" appear several time in the language
> xml files in docbook-xsl-1.73.2 so im not sure which one is used, but
> the translation seems to exist for all the ids in the fr.xml
>
> I have tried adding a "lang="fr"" parameter in my <book> element and
> also in my <xref> element, but it didnt change anything
>
> I looked at the list archive, found some related posts but sadly no
> solution

Can you provide a minimal testcase to reproduce (including your
customization layer)? Then we could also take a look, if you do things
right :)

> any idea ?

If it's caused by an outdated or incomplete French translation, then you
can simply "fix" the problem in your customization layer.

http://www.sagehill.net/docbookxsl/CustomGentext.html

Regards, Daniel


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