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moving the testing facility to myfaces ?

by Matthias Wessendorf-4 :: Rate this Message:

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Hi,

we talked about this long time ago. With the ongoing DEV of MyFaces 2.0
we may finally want to move over the testing bits to myfaces.

What is the thought about it ?

If yes, I'd move over the bits and do a release of the testing
facility BEFORE that move.

-Matthias

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Re: moving the testing facility to myfaces ?

by Antonio Petrelli-3 :: Rate this Message:

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2009/2/26 Matthias Wessendorf <matzew@...>:
> we talked about this long time ago. With the ongoing DEV of MyFaces 2.0
> we may finally want to move over the testing bits to myfaces.
>
> What is the thought about it ?
>
> If yes, I'd move over the bits and do a release of the testing
> facility BEFORE that move.

This might be a stupid question, but why don't you simply "copy" it?
It's an exchange between Apache projects, after all.

Antonio

Re: moving the testing facility to myfaces ?

by Matthias Wessendorf-4 :: Rate this Message:

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On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 9:16 AM, Antonio Petrelli
<antonio.petrelli@...> wrote:

> 2009/2/26 Matthias Wessendorf <matzew@...>:
>> we talked about this long time ago. With the ongoing DEV of MyFaces 2.0
>> we may finally want to move over the testing bits to myfaces.
>>
>> What is the thought about it ?
>>
>> If yes, I'd move over the bits and do a release of the testing
>> facility BEFORE that move.
>
> This might be a stupid question, but why don't you simply "copy" it?
> It's an exchange between Apache projects, after all.

namespace clash ?
org.apache.myfaces VS
org.apache.shale

and it would be nice for the still existing Shale users to have a
release of the bits.

-M


>
> Antonio
>



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Re: moving the testing facility to myfaces ?

by Matthias Wessendorf-4 :: Rate this Message:

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On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 11:02 AM, Matthias Wessendorf <matzew@...> wrote:

> On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 9:16 AM, Antonio Petrelli
> <antonio.petrelli@...> wrote:
>> 2009/2/26 Matthias Wessendorf <matzew@...>:
>>> we talked about this long time ago. With the ongoing DEV of MyFaces 2.0
>>> we may finally want to move over the testing bits to myfaces.
>>>
>>> What is the thought about it ?
>>>
>>> If yes, I'd move over the bits and do a release of the testing
>>> facility BEFORE that move.
>>
>> This might be a stupid question, but why don't you simply "copy" it?
>> It's an exchange between Apache projects, after all.

and, when the myfaces community would continue to develop this
we would have two different code bases.
Or do you think that there is much progress here on that shale
(testing) framework?
-M

>
> namespace clash ?
> org.apache.myfaces VS
> org.apache.shale
>
> and it would be nice for the still existing Shale users to have a
> release of the bits.
>
> -M
>
>
>>
>> Antonio
>>
>
>
>
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>
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Re: moving the testing facility to myfaces ?

by Antonio Petrelli-3 :: Rate this Message:

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2009/2/26 Matthias Wessendorf <matzew@...>:

> On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 9:16 AM, Antonio Petrelli
> <antonio.petrelli@...> wrote:
>> 2009/2/26 Matthias Wessendorf <matzew@...>:
>>> we talked about this long time ago. With the ongoing DEV of MyFaces 2.0
>>> we may finally want to move over the testing bits to myfaces.
>>>
>>> What is the thought about it ?
>>>
>>> If yes, I'd move over the bits and do a release of the testing
>>> facility BEFORE that move.
>>
>> This might be a stupid question, but why don't you simply "copy" it?
>> It's an exchange between Apache projects, after all.
>
> namespace clash ?
> org.apache.myfaces VS
> org.apache.shale

When I said "copy" I meant copying the code, but adapted to MyFaces,
thus renaming packages.

> and it would be nice for the still existing Shale users to have a
> release of the bits.

IMHO you should be a bit "egoistic". If you are using Shale Test, ok
go on to release it.
But if you don't use it go ahead with the copy.
I know that it's hard to admit that a project is dead, but it is :-(

Antonio

Re: moving the testing facility to myfaces ?

by Matthias Wessendorf-4 :: Rate this Message:

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On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 11:12 AM, Antonio Petrelli
<antonio.petrelli@...> wrote:

> 2009/2/26 Matthias Wessendorf <matzew@...>:
>> On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 9:16 AM, Antonio Petrelli
>> <antonio.petrelli@...> wrote:
>>> 2009/2/26 Matthias Wessendorf <matzew@...>:
>>>> we talked about this long time ago. With the ongoing DEV of MyFaces 2.0
>>>> we may finally want to move over the testing bits to myfaces.
>>>>
>>>> What is the thought about it ?
>>>>
>>>> If yes, I'd move over the bits and do a release of the testing
>>>> facility BEFORE that move.
>>>
>>> This might be a stupid question, but why don't you simply "copy" it?
>>> It's an exchange between Apache projects, after all.
>>
>> namespace clash ?
>> org.apache.myfaces VS
>> org.apache.shale
>
> When I said "copy" I meant copying the code, but adapted to MyFaces,
> thus renaming packages.
>
>> and it would be nice for the still existing Shale users to have a
>> release of the bits.
>
> IMHO you should be a bit "egoistic". If you are using Shale Test, ok
> go on to release it.

I am a user (in MyFaces and corp. land), so depending on the outcome,
I will go ahead with the Shale-(Test-)Release

> But if you don't use it go ahead with the copy.
> I know that it's hard to admit that a project is dead, but it is :-(
>
> Antonio
>



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Re: moving the testing facility to myfaces ?

by Antonio Petrelli-3 :: Rate this Message:

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2009/2/26 Matthias Wessendorf <matzew@...>:

> On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 11:12 AM, Antonio Petrelli
> <antonio.petrelli@...> wrote:
>> 2009/2/26 Matthias Wessendorf <matzew@...>:
>>> On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 9:16 AM, Antonio Petrelli
>>> <antonio.petrelli@...> wrote:
>>>> 2009/2/26 Matthias Wessendorf <matzew@...>:
>>>>> we talked about this long time ago. With the ongoing DEV of MyFaces 2.0
>>>>> we may finally want to move over the testing bits to myfaces.
>>>>>
>>>>> What is the thought about it ?
>>>>>
>>>>> If yes, I'd move over the bits and do a release of the testing
>>>>> facility BEFORE that move.
>>>>
>>>> This might be a stupid question, but why don't you simply "copy" it?
>>>> It's an exchange between Apache projects, after all.
>>>
>>> namespace clash ?
>>> org.apache.myfaces VS
>>> org.apache.shale
>>
>> When I said "copy" I meant copying the code, but adapted to MyFaces,
>> thus renaming packages.
>>
>>> and it would be nice for the still existing Shale users to have a
>>> release of the bits.
>>
>> IMHO you should be a bit "egoistic". If you are using Shale Test, ok
>> go on to release it.
>
> I am a user (in MyFaces and corp. land), so depending on the outcome,
> I will go ahead with the Shale-(Test-)Release

Perfect! So Shale is not-so-dead after all :-D

Antonio

Re: moving the testing facility to myfaces ?

by Gary%20VanMatre :: Rate this Message:

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>From: "Matthias Wessendorf" <matzew@...>
>On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 9:16 AM, Antonio Petrelli
>><antonio.petrelli@...> wrote:
>> 2009/2/26 Matthias Wessendorf <matzew@...>:
>>> we talked about this long time ago. With the ongoing DEV of MyFaces 2.0
>>> we may finally want to move over the testing bits to myfaces.
>>>
>>> What is the thought about it ?
>>>
>>> If yes, I'd move over the bits and do a release of the testing
>>> facility BEFORE that move.
>>
>> This might be a stupid question, but why don't you simply "copy" it?
>> It's an exchange between Apache projects, after all.
>
>namespace clash ?
>org.apache.myfaces VS
>org.apache.shale
>
>and it would be nice for the still existing Shale users to have a
>release of the bits.






We should check with a member of the board to find out that the correct 

protocol is for a move between projects.  Let me do that first before we 

continue  discussions.  





Gary


>
>-M
>>
>> Antonio
>>



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Re: moving the testing facility to myfaces ?

by Matthias Wessendorf-4 :: Rate this Message:

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any outcome ?

On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 6:50 PM, Gary%20VanMatre <gvanmatre@...> wrote:

>
>>From: "Matthias Wessendorf" <matzew@...>
>>On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 9:16 AM, Antonio Petrelli
>>><antonio.petrelli@...> wrote:
>>> 2009/2/26 Matthias Wessendorf <matzew@...>:
>>>> we talked about this long time ago. With the ongoing DEV of MyFaces 2.0
>>>> we may finally want to move over the testing bits to myfaces.
>>>>
>>>> What is the thought about it ?
>>>>
>>>> If yes, I'd move over the bits and do a release of the testing
>>>> facility BEFORE that move.
>>>
>>> This might be a stupid question, but why don't you simply "copy" it?
>>> It's an exchange between Apache projects, after all.
>>
>>namespace clash ?
>>org.apache.myfaces VS
>>org.apache.shale
>>
>>and it would be nice for the still existing Shale users to have a
>>release of the bits.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> We should check with a member of the board to find out that the correct
>
> protocol is for a move between projects.  Let me do that first before we
>
> continue  discussions.
>
>
>
>
>
> Gary
>
>
>>
>>-M
>>>
>>> Antonio
>>>
>
>
>
> --
> Matthias Wessendorf
>
> blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/
> sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf
> twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf
>



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