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	<title>Nabble - netbsd-docs</title>
	<updated>2009-11-21T15:24:06Z</updated>
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26461447</id>
	<title>wapbl.4 correction</title>
	<published>2009-11-21T15:24:06Z</published>
	<updated>2009-11-21T15:24:06Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>rudolf-5</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Hi,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;mount_ffs requires block device:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;# mount -o log /dev/rwd1h /mnt 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;mount_ffs: /dev/rwd1h on /mnt: Block device required
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;r.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br /&gt;--- src/share/man/man4/wapbl.4.orig	2009-11-22 01:08:15.000000000 +0100
&lt;br&gt;+++ src/share/man/man4/wapbl.4	2009-11-22 01:08:51.000000000 +0100
&lt;br&gt;@@ -100,7 +100,7 @@
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;option.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;For existing file systems and general use, however, simply using
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;.Bd -literal -offset indent
&lt;br&gt;-mount -o log /dev/rwd0a /mnt
&lt;br&gt;+mount -o log /dev/wd0a /mnt
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;.Ed
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;.Pp
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;will be sufficient to create an appropriate journal within the file
&lt;br&gt;@@ -118,7 +118,7 @@
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;.Pp
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;followed by
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;.Bd -literal -offset indent
&lt;br&gt;-mount -o log /dev/rwd0a /mnt
&lt;br&gt;+mount -o log /dev/wd0a /mnt
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;.Ed
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;.Pp
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;will remove the log and then re-create it with the default size.
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26355539</id>
	<title>Truth for life</title>
	<published>2009-11-14T17:14:34Z</published>
	<updated>2009-11-14T17:14:34Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Book News</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Greetings,
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-25942450</id>
	<title>Removing names from INSTALL</title>
	<published>2009-10-17T15:44:50Z</published>
	<updated>2009-10-17T15:44:50Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Soren Jacobsen-3</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">I propose to remove the &amp;quot;We are...&amp;quot; section from our INSTALL &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;document. &amp;nbsp;It is generated by src/distrib/notes/common/main.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The entire (quite large!) section feels rather vain and adds nothing &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;to the document other than size. &amp;nbsp;It is a relic from the days before &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;our website was the main source of this kind of information. &amp;nbsp;All of &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;the information given in &amp;quot;We are...&amp;quot; is quite easily found online, &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;where people are more likely to be looking for that information. &amp;nbsp;I'd &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;like to keep (or rather, make) INSTALL lean, so that it is simply a &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;document about _INSTALL_ing NetBSD, like its name suggests.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Oh, and since we seem to think that people want to print this document &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;out, please won't you think of the poor trees wasted by this extra &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;fluff? ;)
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I'd like to remove the section (and update the new-developer welcome &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;text) in a week unless someone can think of a strong reason not to.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Soren
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-25856221</id>
	<title>Instructions about cross compiling kernel</title>
	<published>2009-10-12T06:54:15Z</published>
	<updated>2009-10-12T06:54:15Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Kentaro KAWAMOTO</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Hi,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I tried cross compiling of NetBSD kernel for my netbook
&lt;br&gt;following the instructions on
&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.netbsd.org/docs/guide/en/chap-build.html&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.netbsd.org/docs/guide/en/chap-build.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I had not booted my netbook with the crosscompiled kernel
&lt;br&gt;before someone pointed me that
&lt;br&gt;- I must copy kernel modules as well under /stand directory, and
&lt;br&gt;- It couldn't boot with grub and I should let grub boot boot(8).
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Chances are other people would confused with these point.
&lt;br&gt;So It would be good to update the document.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Thanks,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;-- 
&lt;br&gt;Kentaro KAWAMOTO
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-24804592</id>
	<title>[Fwd: Esperienze su Avastin e Interferone Alfa2a... DA GIRARE AI MEDICI, INFERMIERI E AGLI AMMALATI !!!]</title>
	<published>2009-08-04T01:48:08Z</published>
	<updated>2009-08-04T01:48:08Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Finlay Esposito</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">&lt;div class='shrinkable-quote'&gt;&amp;gt; Salve e mi scusi se la disturbo,
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&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
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&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-24474590</id>
	<title>Bitte !</title>
	<published>2009-07-13T07:01:49Z</published>
	<updated>2009-07-13T07:01:49Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Dr. Salim Qusai</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Oil Complex Building 
&lt;br&gt;Port Saeed Str. 
&lt;br&gt;P.O.Box 6178 
&lt;br&gt;Baghdad. 
&lt;br&gt;Iraq.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Sehr geehrter, 
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;ich bin Dr. Salim Qusai, komme aus Kurdistan- Iraq und bin ein Executive Accountant beim Iraqi Ministry of Oil. Zun?chst entschuldige ich mich daf?r, da? ich Sie auf diesem Wege kontaktiere, um Ihnen ein Gesch?ft dieser Gr??enordnung nahe zu bringen. Es aber f?r mich der zuverl?ssigste und schnellste Weg. 
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Ein Mitglied des Iraqi Export Promotion Council (IEPC) war mit einer Regierungsdelegation in Ihrem Land w?hrend einer Handelsmesse und hat mit Ihre Daten ?bermittelt. Ich habe mich entschlossen, &amp;nbsp;Ihnen eine vertrauliche Zusammenarbeit bei dem unten beschriebenen Deal anzubieten. Alle beteiligten Parteien werden davon profitieren, aber ich bitte Sie aufgrund der Natur dieser Transaktion, das ganze streng vertraulich zu behandeln. 
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Innerhalb des Department of Petroleum Contracts und Licensing Directorate (PCLD), bei dem ich als Executive Accountant besch?ftigt bin, habe ich gemeinsam mit vier weiteren Angestellten in leitenden Funktionen Zugriff auf einen Betrag von Vierzehn Millionen Dreihunderttausend US Dollars (14.3 M), der f?r die Zahlung f?lliger Rechnungen vorgesehen ist. Diesen Betrag m?chten wir mit Hilfe einer ausl?ndischen Firma oder auch Privatperson auf ein Konto im Ausland transferieren. Der Iraqi Civil Service Code of Conduct erlaubt es uns aufgrund unserer Stellung nicht, Konten im Ausland zu unterhalten. 
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Der Betrag von vierzehn Millionen Dreihunderttausend US Dollars (14.3 M.) stammt aus einem Vertrag mit einer ausl?ndischen Firma, die f?r unserer Department Arbeiten ausgef?hrt hat. Wir Officials haben die Rechnungen absichtlich zu hoch angesetzt und nur die tats?chlichen Rechnungen bezahlt, so da? die entstandene Differenz nun in unserem Besitz ist. Wir haben bereits alle Vorbereitungen getroffen um das Geld mittels Telegraphic Transfer (T. T.) auf ein ausl?ndischen Bankkonto, da? Sie uns nennen w?rden, &amp;nbsp;zu ?berweisen. Dazu m?ssen wir einen Antrag beim Justice Ministry hier in Iraq stellen, in dem Sie die Rechte des fr?heren Vertragspartners ?bernehmen. Daf?r ben?tigen wir Ihre Fax Nr., um Ihnen die Unterlagen ?bermitteln zu k?nnen. 
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Meine Partner und ich haben beschlossen, Ihnen einen Anteil von 30 % an der gesamten Summe zu geben, falls Sie unser Angebot annehmen und uns ein Konto zur Verf?gung stellen. 65 % sind f?r uns und 5 % haben wir f?r Steuern und Geb?hren angesetzt. Wir w?rden das gesamte Geld gerne f?r mindestens zwei Jahre in Ihrem Besitz lassen und bitten Sie, es entsprechend anzulegen. Danach w?rden wir anfangen, es wieder zur?ck nach Iraq zu transferieren. Das Gesch?ft ist 100 % sicher, sofern Sie es mit gr??ter Sorgfalt und Geheimhaltung behandeln. Ihr Spezialgebiet ist auch kein Hinderungsgrund f?r die erfolgreiche Ausf?hrung der Transaktion. 
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Ich setze mein Vertrauen in Sie und hoffe, Sie werden mich nicht entt?uschen. Bitte melden Sie sich m?glichst bald bei mir ?ber die obige Telefon oder meine e-mail Adresse(&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=24474590&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;salimqusai@...&lt;/a&gt;) und teilen mir mit, ob Sie unser Angebot annehmen. Ich versichere Ihnen nochmals, da? meine Partner und ich in der Lage sind, die Auszahlung dieser Summe zu erm?glichen, wenn Sie uns garantieren, da? unser Anteil sicher in Ihrer Verwahrung bleibt. Bitte behandeln Sie unser Angebot absolut vertraulich, da wir noch aktiv in unseren ?mtern sind. 
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Ich hoffe auf Ihre baldige Antwort. 
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Mit freundlichen Gr??en 
&lt;br&gt;Dr. Salim Qusai
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-24150618</id>
	<title>divert 1000s of fresh new visitors daily to Your web site</title>
	<published>2009-06-22T09:21:39Z</published>
	<updated>2009-06-22T09:21:39Z</updated>
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-23765646</id>
	<title>Re: netstat.1 typo</title>
	<published>2009-05-28T09:47:44Z</published>
	<updated>2009-05-28T09:47:44Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Hubert Feyrer-4</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">On Thu, 28 May 2009, Silas Silva wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Is the attached patch valid? It makes s/wheter/whether/
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; In this case, should I open a PR?
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Committed, thanks!
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;- Hubert
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-23762836</id>
	<title>netstat.1 typo</title>
	<published>2009-05-28T07:20:48Z</published>
	<updated>2009-05-28T07:20:48Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Silas Silva</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Is the attached patch valid? It makes s/wheter/whether/
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In this case, should I open a PR?
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Thank you.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;-- 
&lt;br&gt;Silas Silva
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br /&gt;--- netstat.1.orig	2009-05-28 11:14:43.000000000 -0300
&lt;br&gt;+++ netstat.1	2009-05-28 11:14:53.000000000 -0300
&lt;br&gt;@@ -380,7 +380,7 @@
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;.Xr bpf 4
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;descriptor which has three different values:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;Idle ('I'), Waiting ('W') and Timed Out ('T').
&lt;br&gt;-The second character indicates wheter the promisc flag is set.
&lt;br&gt;+The second character indicates whether the promisc flag is set.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;The third character indicates the status of the immediate mode.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;The fourth character indicates whether the peer will have the ability
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;to see the packets sent.
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	<title>Varning! Verifiera och uppgradera ditt konto nu ..</title>
	<published>2009-05-23T09:08:39Z</published>
	<updated>2009-05-23T09:08:39Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>webmaster@ru.nl</name>
	</author>
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-23586395</id>
	<title>Re: Proofreading man-pages?</title>
	<published>2009-05-17T11:48:27Z</published>
	<updated>2009-05-17T11:48:27Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>David H. Gutteridge</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">On Fri, 15 May 2009 14:02:45 +0300, Jukka Ruohonen wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;gt;Hello.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;gt;As I recently got my printer working again with lpd(8), I was &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;thinking about
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;gt;starting a hobby-project with NetBSD man-pages. Basically: print &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;them all
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;gt;out and start reading with a pencil.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;gt;While my english may not be fluent, I think this method would catch &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;a big
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;gt;amount of typos, incorrect cross-references, stylistic flaws and other
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;gt;miscellaneous bugs.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;gt;Has someone carried out such an undertaking? How many A4 pages are we
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;gt;talking about? Any recommendations?
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;gt;- Jukka,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If you're getting into this sort of endeavour, you might want to have a
&lt;br&gt;look at the 181 open doc-bug PRs so you're not duplicating any efforts.
&lt;br&gt;There are some interesting things in there, like this:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.netbsd.org/cgi-bin/query-pr-single.pl?number=9627&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.netbsd.org/cgi-bin/query-pr-single.pl?number=9627&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;(I'm sure there are some old documentation PRs that are no longer
&lt;br&gt;relevant and can be closed, for that matter. &amp;nbsp;There are duplicates
&lt;br&gt;complaining about IPF documentation being out of date or incomplete,
&lt;br&gt;for instance.)
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Regards,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Dave
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-23563825</id>
	<title>Re: Proofreading man-pages?</title>
	<published>2009-05-15T10:04:08Z</published>
	<updated>2009-05-15T10:04:08Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Jukka Ruohonen-3</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">On 15.05.2009, Jeremy C. Reed wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Yes, I have been working on it. But only section 8 and a few section 1 for 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; now.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; It is well more than 6500 printed pages. (I am only doing section 8 for 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; now and will cost me a few hundred dollars to get books printed and I 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; will offer for around US$33 for man 8 set of two or three books. Once I 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; have completed cover I will submit.)
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Frankly, I had no idea that this would account to that many printed pages.
&lt;br&gt;In this case going section-per-section is probably indeed the best solution,
&lt;br&gt;ergonomically and otherwise.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;As for Hubert's comment, well yes, luck and a lot of patience is needed :-).
&lt;br&gt;Yet, call me old-fashioned but reading from paper is actually the only way
&lt;br&gt;to proofread. (For comparable reasons I think these so-called e-books will
&lt;br&gt;never succeed.)
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;- Jukka.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;p&gt;From forum: &lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/netbsd-docs-general-f12297.html&quot; embed=&quot;fixTarget[12297]&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; &gt;netbsd-docs general&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</content>
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-23563464</id>
	<title>Re: Proofreading man-pages?</title>
	<published>2009-05-15T09:41:30Z</published>
	<updated>2009-05-15T09:41:30Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Hubert Feyrer-4</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">On Fri, 15 May 2009, Jukka Ruohonen wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Has someone carried out such an undertaking? How many A4 pages are we
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; talking about? Any recommendations?
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;IIRC it was like 2000 last time I checked.
&lt;br&gt;Good luck! ;-)
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;(FWIW: We'll be happy to take back patches in electronic form, against 
&lt;br&gt;*roff sources :)
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; - Hubert
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-23561960</id>
	<title>Re: Proofreading man-pages?</title>
	<published>2009-05-15T08:16:49Z</published>
	<updated>2009-05-15T08:16:49Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Jeremy C. Reed</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">On Fri, 15 May 2009, Jukka Ruohonen wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;div class='shrinkable-quote'&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; As I recently got my printer working again with lpd(8), I was thinking about
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; starting a hobby-project with NetBSD man-pages. Basically: print them all
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; out and start reading with a pencil.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; While my english may not be fluent, I think this method would catch a big
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; amount of typos, incorrect cross-references, stylistic flaws and other
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; miscellaneous bugs.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Has someone carried out such an undertaking? How many A4 pages are we
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; talking about? Any recommendations?
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br&gt;Yes, I have been working on it. But only section 8 and a few section 1 for 
&lt;br&gt;now.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It is well more than 6500 printed pages. (I am only doing section 8 for 
&lt;br&gt;now and will cost me a few hundred dollars to get books printed and I 
&lt;br&gt;will offer for around US$33 for man 8 set of two or three books. Once I 
&lt;br&gt;have completed cover I will submit.)
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;(I also emailed you off list with more details.)
&lt;br&gt;&lt;p&gt;From forum: &lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/netbsd-docs-general-f12297.html&quot; embed=&quot;fixTarget[12297]&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; &gt;netbsd-docs general&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</content>
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-23557557</id>
	<title>Proofreading man-pages?</title>
	<published>2009-05-15T04:02:45Z</published>
	<updated>2009-05-15T04:02:45Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Jukka Ruohonen-3</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Hello.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;As I recently got my printer working again with lpd(8), I was thinking about
&lt;br&gt;starting a hobby-project with NetBSD man-pages. Basically: print them all
&lt;br&gt;out and start reading with a pencil.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;While my english may not be fluent, I think this method would catch a big
&lt;br&gt;amount of typos, incorrect cross-references, stylistic flaws and other
&lt;br&gt;miscellaneous bugs.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Has someone carried out such an undertaking? How many A4 pages are we
&lt;br&gt;talking about? Any recommendations?
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;- Jukka,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;p&gt;From forum: &lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/netbsd-docs-general-f12297.html&quot; embed=&quot;fixTarget[12297]&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; &gt;netbsd-docs general&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</content>
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-23393278</id>
	<title>Congratulation</title>
	<published>2009-05-05T10:18:35Z</published>
	<updated>2009-05-05T10:18:35Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>FROM-CLAIMS-DEPT</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">You've earned £750,000.
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-23313401</id>
	<title>Your account</title>
	<published>2009-04-30T03:15:48Z</published>
	<updated>2009-04-30T03:15:48Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>netbsd-docs-ru mailing list</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Worldwide shipping.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://alphanet.girllain.com/&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://alphanet.girllain.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;.. because health matters most.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;-- 
&lt;br&gt;Best Regards
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Philipp Schmiedt
&lt;br&gt;University of South Carolina
&lt;br&gt;www.musc.edu
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-23269408</id>
	<title>share/mk/bsd.README says MLINKS are soft-linked</title>
	<published>2009-04-27T20:18:10Z</published>
	<updated>2009-04-27T20:18:10Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Jeremy C. Reed</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">(I bcc'd tech-userlevel as netbsd-docs is quiet.)
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Before I commit following, is there some option or standard where 
&lt;br&gt;soft-linked is correct for MLINKS?
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Index: share/mk/bsd.README
&lt;br&gt;===================================================================
&lt;br&gt;RCS file: /cvsroot/src/share/mk/bsd.README,v
&lt;br&gt;retrieving revision 1.249
&lt;br&gt;diff -u -r1.249 bsd.README
&lt;br&gt;--- share/mk/bsd.README	10 Apr 2009 16:16:12 -0000	1.249
&lt;br&gt;+++ share/mk/bsd.README	28 Apr 2009 03:16:59 -0000
&lt;br&gt;@@ -1094,7 +1094,7 @@
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;MLINKS		List of manual page links (using a .1 - .9 suffix). &amp;nbsp;The
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;		linked-to file must come first, the linked file second,
&lt;br&gt;-		and there may be multiple pairs. &amp;nbsp;The files are soft-linked.
&lt;br&gt;+		and there may be multiple pairs. &amp;nbsp;The files are hard-linked.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;The include file &amp;lt;bsd.man.mk&amp;gt; includes a file named &amp;quot;../Makefile.inc&amp;quot; if
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;it exists.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;(Maybe I should remove the hyphen too ...)
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-23268298</id>
	<title>Re: abuse of .Nm mdoc macro (fast_ipsec and others)</title>
	<published>2009-04-27T18:12:43Z</published>
	<updated>2009-04-27T18:12:43Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Elad Efrat</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Jeremy C. Reed wrote:
&lt;div class='shrinkable-quote'&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; apropos fast or apropos ipsec shows:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Fast IPsec (4) - hardware-accelerated IP Security Protocols
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; But &amp;quot;Fast IPsec&amp;quot; is not a manual page.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Should I use the following patch or should I make a MLINKS to create &amp;quot;Fast 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; IPsec.4&amp;quot; (filename with a space in it)? I think space is wrong for some 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; systems.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Index: share/man/man4/fast_ipsec.4
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; ===================================================================
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; RCS file: /cvsroot/src/share/man/man4/fast_ipsec.4,v
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; retrieving revision 1.7
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; diff -u -r1.7 fast_ipsec.4
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; --- share/man/man4/fast_ipsec.4	25 May 2008 20:08:12 -0000	1.7
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; +++ share/man/man4/fast_ipsec.4	23 Apr 2009 13:34:19 -0000
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; @@ -32,8 +32,8 @@
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp;.Dt FAST_IPSEC 4
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp;.Os
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp;.Sh NAME
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; -.Nm &amp;quot;Fast IPsec&amp;quot;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; -.Nd hardware-accelerated IP Security Protocols
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; +.Nm fast_ipsec
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; +.Nd Fast IPsec hardware-accelerated IP Security Protocols
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp;.Sh SYNOPSIS
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp;.Cd &amp;quot;options FAST_IPSEC&amp;quot;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp;.Cd &amp;quot;options IPSEC_NAT_T&amp;quot;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; @@ -49,7 +49,7 @@
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp;.Tn IPComp
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp;(for IP Payload Compression Protocol)
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp;that provide security services for IP datagrams.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; -.Nm
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; +Fast IPsec
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp;is an implementation of these protocols that uses the
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp;.Xr opencrypto 9
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp;subsystem to carry out cryptographic operations.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; @@ -57,7 +57,7 @@
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp;employed whenever possible to optimize the performance of these protocols.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp;.Pp
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp;In general, the
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; -.Nm
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; +Fast IPsec
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp;implementation is intended to be compatible with the
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp;.Tn KAME IPsec
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp;implementation.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; @@ -70,7 +70,7 @@
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp;.Xr opencrypto 9
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp;subsystem.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp;When the
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; -.Nm
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; +Fast IPsec
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp;protocols are configured for use, all protocols are included in the system.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp;To selectively enable/disable protocols, use
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp;.Xr sysctl 8 .
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; @@ -93,7 +93,7 @@
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp;.Tn IPsec
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp;protocols.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp;The
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; -.Nm
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; +Fast IPsec
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp;protocols are based on code which appeared in
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp;.Fx 4.7 .
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp;The
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br&gt;You are correct, the man-page is wrong. To me both the first chunk of
&lt;br&gt;the diff, and all of it seem fine, so commit whatever you choose. :)
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I think netbsd-docs@ is too quiet btw. Perhaps you should always mail
&lt;br&gt;just tech-userlevel@?
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Thanks,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;-e.
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-23238871</id>
	<title>licensing fun</title>
	<published>2009-04-25T20:24:44Z</published>
	<updated>2009-04-25T20:24:44Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Jeremy C. Reed</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">I count 563 files for all man8 manual pages plus a small set of man1 
&lt;br&gt;commands which are for &amp;quot;system operation&amp;quot; (sbin or libexec).
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;They are made up of 287 different copyrights and licenses.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Stripping out copyrights, there are still around 109 different licenses.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;That is after stripping out extra noise like unrelated credits, RCS IDs, 
&lt;br&gt;miscellaneous comments, etc. and attempting to merge superfluous 
&lt;br&gt;whitespace and to better format lines (simply for comparisons).
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The differences are: slight wording, different clauses, different 
&lt;br&gt;institutes/contributors/authors/etc in the disclaimer.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Later I may look closer to figure out if some of the 109 above are 
&lt;br&gt;actually the same.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I am trying to figure out how to get all these included in a physical 
&lt;br&gt;product (no computer media). If I use a very small font size and two 
&lt;br&gt;columns per page, maybe I can fit them on 15 sheets of paper (both sides). 
&lt;br&gt;I'd like to reduce this more.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;What tools do you all use to figure out compliance with licenses?
&lt;br&gt;&lt;p&gt;From forum: &lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/netbsd-docs-general-f12297.html&quot; embed=&quot;fixTarget[12297]&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; &gt;netbsd-docs general&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</content>
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-23199109</id>
	<title>Re: abuse of .Nm mdoc macro (fast_ipsec and others)</title>
	<published>2009-04-23T06:58:09Z</published>
	<updated>2009-04-23T06:58:09Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Jeremy C. Reed</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Another example is lib/libdes/des_modes.7
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;.SH &amp;quot;NAME&amp;quot; &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;Modes of \s-1DES\s0 \- the variants of \s-1DES\s0 and other crypto algorithms of OpenSSL
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I am not sure how to improve that one though.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;lib/libcrypto/man/des_modes.7 instead has:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;.SH &amp;quot;NAME&amp;quot;
&lt;br&gt;des_modes \- the variants of DES and other crypto algorithms of OpenSSL
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Okay if I switch to that line instead?
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Why do we have two files?
&lt;br&gt;&lt;p&gt;From forum: &lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/netbsd-docs-general-f12297.html&quot; embed=&quot;fixTarget[12297]&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; &gt;netbsd-docs general&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</content>
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-23197094</id>
	<title>abuse of .Nm mdoc macro (fast_ipsec and others)</title>
	<published>2009-04-23T06:35:51Z</published>
	<updated>2009-04-23T06:35:51Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Jeremy C. Reed</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">apropos fast or apropos ipsec shows:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Fast IPsec (4) - hardware-accelerated IP Security Protocols
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;But &amp;quot;Fast IPsec&amp;quot; is not a manual page.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Should I use the following patch or should I make a MLINKS to create &amp;quot;Fast 
&lt;br&gt;IPsec.4&amp;quot; (filename with a space in it)? I think space is wrong for some 
&lt;br&gt;systems.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Index: share/man/man4/fast_ipsec.4
&lt;br&gt;===================================================================
&lt;br&gt;RCS file: /cvsroot/src/share/man/man4/fast_ipsec.4,v
&lt;br&gt;retrieving revision 1.7
&lt;br&gt;diff -u -r1.7 fast_ipsec.4
&lt;br&gt;--- share/man/man4/fast_ipsec.4	25 May 2008 20:08:12 -0000	1.7
&lt;br&gt;+++ share/man/man4/fast_ipsec.4	23 Apr 2009 13:34:19 -0000
&lt;br&gt;@@ -32,8 +32,8 @@
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;.Dt FAST_IPSEC 4
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;.Os
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;.Sh NAME
&lt;br&gt;-.Nm &amp;quot;Fast IPsec&amp;quot;
&lt;br&gt;-.Nd hardware-accelerated IP Security Protocols
&lt;br&gt;+.Nm fast_ipsec
&lt;br&gt;+.Nd Fast IPsec hardware-accelerated IP Security Protocols
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;.Sh SYNOPSIS
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;.Cd &amp;quot;options FAST_IPSEC&amp;quot;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;.Cd &amp;quot;options IPSEC_NAT_T&amp;quot;
&lt;br&gt;@@ -49,7 +49,7 @@
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;.Tn IPComp
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;(for IP Payload Compression Protocol)
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;that provide security services for IP datagrams.
&lt;br&gt;-.Nm
&lt;br&gt;+Fast IPsec
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;is an implementation of these protocols that uses the
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;.Xr opencrypto 9
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;subsystem to carry out cryptographic operations.
&lt;br&gt;@@ -57,7 +57,7 @@
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;employed whenever possible to optimize the performance of these protocols.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;.Pp
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;In general, the
&lt;br&gt;-.Nm
&lt;br&gt;+Fast IPsec
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;implementation is intended to be compatible with the
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;.Tn KAME IPsec
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;implementation.
&lt;br&gt;@@ -70,7 +70,7 @@
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;.Xr opencrypto 9
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;subsystem.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;When the
&lt;br&gt;-.Nm
&lt;br&gt;+Fast IPsec
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;protocols are configured for use, all protocols are included in the system.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;To selectively enable/disable protocols, use
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;.Xr sysctl 8 .
&lt;br&gt;@@ -93,7 +93,7 @@
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;.Tn IPsec
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;protocols.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;The
&lt;br&gt;-.Nm
&lt;br&gt;+Fast IPsec
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;protocols are based on code which appeared in
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;.Fx 4.7 .
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;The
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I notice many man pages use Nm wrong. Many use it as &amp;quot;bold&amp;quot; and maybe .Sy 
&lt;br&gt;should be used instead. I don't list all them here.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; Jeremy C. Reed
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;echo 'EhZ[h ^jjf0%%h[[Zc[Z_W$d[j%Xeeai%ZW[ced#]dk#f[d]k_d%' | \
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; tr &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;'#-~' &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;'\-.-{'
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;p&gt;From forum: &lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/netbsd-docs-general-f12297.html&quot; embed=&quot;fixTarget[12297]&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; &gt;netbsd-docs general&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</content>
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-23172504</id>
	<title>your website</title>
	<published>2009-04-22T02:07:38Z</published>
	<updated>2009-04-22T02:07:38Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Mark Townsend-3</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">If you're interested in showing up as a first page result for more search terms on google and yahoo, reply back with all addresses you're looking to promote and the best number to contact you with details.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Sincerely,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Mark Townsend
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;p&gt;From forum: &lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/netbsd-docs-general-f12297.html&quot; embed=&quot;fixTarget[12297]&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; &gt;netbsd-docs general&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</content>
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-23078022</id>
	<title>-lfuse and Lb wrong for mdoc</title>
	<published>2009-04-16T06:29:23Z</published>
	<updated>2009-04-16T06:29:23Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Jeremy C. Reed</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">man refuse says to use -lfuse.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;That is what the source I was using also uses. I changed to -lrefuse and 
&lt;br&gt;it worked.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It should probably be -lrefuse unless a symlink was intended?
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;src/gnu/usr.bin/groff/tmac/mdoc.local defines the available Lb macros (I 
&lt;br&gt;changed -lfuse -lrefuse in mine.)
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;src/gnu/dist/groff/tmac/groff_mdoc.man documents the Lb libraries 
&lt;br&gt;available -- it is missing at least a few (for example libbluetooth, 
&lt;br&gt;libopenpgpsdk, libprop, libpuffs, librefuse, libsdb, ...)
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Is -lrefuse (not -lfuse) correct?
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Should the man page for mdoc(7) be updated to list all the Lb choices?
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Also what is &amp;nbsp;src/share/man/man7/mdoc.7? It doesn't appear to be 
&lt;br&gt;installed. 
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-22982188</id>
	<title>missing manual pages</title>
	<published>2009-04-09T18:58:10Z</published>
	<updated>2009-04-09T18:58:10Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Jeremy C. Reed</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">I see these commands are missing manual pages:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;/usr/sbin/
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;audit-packages &amp;nbsp;-- point to pkg_admin.8 now?
&lt;br&gt;download-vulnerability-list &amp;nbsp;-- point to pkg_admin.8 now?
&lt;br&gt;(NOTE: pkg_add(1) suggests installing security/audit-packages package.)
&lt;br&gt;kdigest
&lt;br&gt;mount_puffsportal
&lt;br&gt;named-compilezone &amp;nbsp;-- same man page as named-checkzone.8
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;/usr/libexec (probably not as important)
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;castching
&lt;br&gt;cc1
&lt;br&gt;cc1obj
&lt;br&gt;cc1plus
&lt;br&gt;ld.elf_so-i386
&lt;br&gt;lint1
&lt;br&gt;lint2
&lt;br&gt;locate.bigram
&lt;br&gt;locate.code
&lt;br&gt;lpf
&lt;br&gt;pjlfilter
&lt;br&gt;printching
&lt;br&gt;spellprog
&lt;br&gt;vfontedpr
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;/usr/bin
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;flex++
&lt;br&gt;gdbtui
&lt;br&gt;gss
&lt;br&gt;hxtool
&lt;br&gt;install-sid
&lt;br&gt;ldapexop
&lt;br&gt;lessecho
&lt;br&gt;mk_cmds
&lt;br&gt;mkcsmapper
&lt;br&gt;mkesdb
&lt;br&gt;post-grohtml &amp;nbsp;-- maybe same as grohtml man page
&lt;br&gt;pre-grohtml &amp;nbsp;-- maybe same as grohtml man page
&lt;br&gt;protoize
&lt;br&gt;unprotoize
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Any thoughts on any of these? I can do some and open problem report 
&lt;br&gt;tickets for this...
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-22982191</id>
	<title>Re: man pages in wrong section? or tools in wrong locations?</title>
	<published>2009-04-09T18:47:52Z</published>
	<updated>2009-04-09T18:47:52Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Jeremy C. Reed</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">And some more maybe in wrong man section (as not general user commands):
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;atf-cleanup
&lt;br&gt;atf-exec
&lt;br&gt;atf-format
&lt;br&gt;sendmail -- probably doesn't matter
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;cvsbug
&lt;br&gt;newsyslog -- maybe should not be in &amp;quot;bin&amp;quot;?
&lt;br&gt;nslookup &amp;nbsp;-- upstream has switched that to .1
&lt;br&gt;nsupdate &amp;nbsp;-- upstream also has that as .1
&lt;br&gt;renice
&lt;br&gt;revoke
&lt;br&gt;rpcinfo
&lt;br&gt;showmount
&lt;br&gt;string2key
&lt;br&gt;verify_krb5_conf
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;By the way, we have two different programs called &amp;quot;error&amp;quot;.
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-22982195</id>
	<title>Re: man pages in wrong section? or tools in wrong locations?</title>
	<published>2009-04-09T15:01:53Z</published>
	<updated>2009-04-09T15:01:53Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Jeremy C. Reed</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Also /bin/sync is sync(8) -- is that okay?
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-22981591</id>
	<title>man pages in wrong section? or tools in wrong locations?</title>
	<published>2009-04-09T14:51:59Z</published>
	<updated>2009-04-09T14:51:59Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Jeremy C. Reed</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Probably doesn't matter much, but maybe some of this can be cleaned up.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The following /usr/sbin/ commands have corresponding documentation in man1 
&lt;br&gt;(general commands) instead of man8 (system commands).
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;altqstat
&lt;br&gt;bpm
&lt;br&gt;daicctl
&lt;br&gt;dtmfdecode
&lt;br&gt;ipftest
&lt;br&gt;ipresend
&lt;br&gt;ipsend
&lt;br&gt;iptest
&lt;br&gt;kimpersonate
&lt;br&gt;lptest
&lt;br&gt;mopchk
&lt;br&gt;mopcopy
&lt;br&gt;mopprobe
&lt;br&gt;moptrace
&lt;br&gt;omshell
&lt;br&gt;pkg_add
&lt;br&gt;pkg_admin
&lt;br&gt;pkg_create
&lt;br&gt;pkg_delete
&lt;br&gt;pkg_info
&lt;br&gt;postalias
&lt;br&gt;postcat
&lt;br&gt;postconf
&lt;br&gt;postdrop
&lt;br&gt;postfix
&lt;br&gt;postkick
&lt;br&gt;postlock
&lt;br&gt;postlog
&lt;br&gt;postmap
&lt;br&gt;postqueue
&lt;br&gt;postsuper
&lt;br&gt;screenblank
&lt;br&gt;sendmail
&lt;br&gt;sntp
&lt;br&gt;srtconfig
&lt;br&gt;sup
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;By the way, I think pkg_info is useful for general (man1 is okay and 
&lt;br&gt;/usr/bin makes sense to me).
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The reason I am looking at this closely is for printed bound manuals. I 
&lt;br&gt;want system manuals correctly separated from general manuals. In these 
&lt;br&gt;cases, by using man8 versus man1, I'd get this wrong. Any thoughts on 
&lt;br&gt;this?
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I have feeling some of these has been covered before. Feel free to point 
&lt;br&gt;me to archives ...
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-22961867</id>
	<title>your website</title>
	<published>2009-04-08T16:31:35Z</published>
	<updated>2009-04-08T16:31:35Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Mark Crimson</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">We can put your site at the top of a search engines listings. If this is something you might be interested in, send me a reply with the web addresses you want to promote and the best way to contact you with options.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Sincerely,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Mark Crimson
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-22530724</id>
	<title>Re: socket(7) and section 2</title>
	<published>2009-03-15T18:42:54Z</published>
	<updated>2009-03-15T18:42:54Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>James K. Lowden-2</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">James K. Lowden wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; write(2)
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; for instance doesn't mention that EPIPE is set (or at least *should* be,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; after SIGPIPE) after writing to a closed connection. &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Reply to self: this is in fact documented quite plainly. &amp;nbsp;Apologies. &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;--jkl
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-22530097</id>
	<title>Re: socket(7) and section 2</title>
	<published>2009-03-15T17:18:19Z</published>
	<updated>2009-03-15T17:18:19Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>James K. Lowden-2</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Christos Zoulas wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt;Throughout the socket documentation, ERRORS is not exhaustive. 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt;write(2) for instance doesn't mention that EPIPE is set (or at least
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt;*should* be, after SIGPIPE) after writing to a closed connection. &amp;nbsp;Nor
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt;is ENETDOWN mentioned. &amp;nbsp;I could go on. &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; You can start with the opengroup case, but they don't mention the
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; network related errors either. Perhaps mention that if the file
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; descriptor refers to a socket, then all the errors from send can be
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; returned.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Opengroup got that far: 
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/000095399/functions/write.html&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/000095399/functions/write.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;quot;If fildes refers to a socket, write() shall be equivalent to send() with
&lt;br&gt;no flags set.&amp;quot;
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I take it, though, that you mean our implementation asserts conformance
&lt;br&gt;with SuSv3? &amp;nbsp;It's easy to document what these things are supposed to do;
&lt;br&gt;it's hard to know exactly what's true about them. &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.opengroup.org/comm/press/15feb06.htm&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.opengroup.org/comm/press/15feb06.htm&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp; 
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I missed that announcement at the time. &amp;nbsp;IIUC, we can use opengroup's docs
&lt;br&gt;verbatim? &amp;nbsp;That would be nice, particularly if they're in a format that is
&lt;br&gt;or can be converted to mdoc. &amp;nbsp;Where are they? &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I'm confused about SuSv3, though. &amp;nbsp;Austin says it was approved in December
&lt;br&gt;and is published by TOG. &amp;nbsp;I registered, yet everything I see at 
&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.unix.org/single_unix_specification/&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.unix.org/single_unix_specification/&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;says &amp;quot;The Open Group Base
&lt;br&gt;Specifications Issue 6 IEEE Std 1003.1, 2004 Edition&amp;quot;. &amp;nbsp;Not 2008. &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Perhaps we should adopt the opengroup socket API docs wholesale and edit
&lt;br&gt;them for any specifics we already mention. &amp;nbsp;Then we can add to the BUGS
&lt;br&gt;section whenever practice deviates from theory until a kernel hacker
&lt;br&gt;narrows the difference. &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;--jkl
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-22529515</id>
	<title>Re: socket(7) and section 2</title>
	<published>2009-03-15T16:13:14Z</published>
	<updated>2009-03-15T16:13:14Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Christos Zoulas-2</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">In article &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=22529515&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;20090315185649.4a012a39.jklowden@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;,
&lt;br&gt;James K. Lowden &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=22529515&amp;i=1&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;netbsd-docs@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt; wrote:
&lt;div class='shrinkable-quote'&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;It's impossible to program sockets correctly based on the manual. &amp;nbsp;Believe
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;me; I tried. &amp;nbsp;Among other things, read(2) doesn't mention that it returns
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;zero to indicate the peer has closed the connection. &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;Throughout the socket documentation, ERRORS is not exhaustive. &amp;nbsp;write(2)
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;for instance doesn't mention that EPIPE is set (or at least *should* be,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;after SIGPIPE) after writing to a closed connection. &amp;nbsp;Nor is ENETDOWN
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;mentioned. &amp;nbsp;I could go on. &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;The thing is, I have a hard time believing this is an oversight, because
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;NetBSD's ancestors practically invented tcp/ip. &amp;nbsp;Am I missing something,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;or does it fall to a nonexpert like me to take at least a swag at getting
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;write(2) right? &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;In a similar vein, I'm not aware of anything that serves as a Guide to
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;Sockets. &amp;nbsp;I don't mean Sockets for Novices; I mean something that relates
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;the API to the TCP/IP protocol. &amp;nbsp;What packets does
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;connect/bind/listen/accept/close cause to be sent? &amp;nbsp;What does select(2)
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;mean by a &amp;quot;ready&amp;quot; descriptor? &amp;nbsp;(Hint: available data or free buffers is
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;only one of four cases.) &amp;nbsp;How will i/o functions behave when the network
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;can't transmit data, when the peer crashes, when the peer's host crashes,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;if I down the interface? &amp;nbsp;I propose sockets(7) for the purpose. &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;Perhaps some of the ambiguity and vagueness stems from uncertainty in
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;flintlock times of what socket domain would be used. &amp;nbsp;All well and good,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;but surely we agree that TCP/IPv4 is commonly enough used nowadays that it
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;deserves careful, detailed explication? &amp;nbsp;;-)
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br&gt;You can start with the opengroup case, but they don't mention the network
&lt;br&gt;related errors either. Perhaps mention that if the file descriptor refers
&lt;br&gt;to a socket, then all the errors from send can be returned.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;christos
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-22529352</id>
	<title>socket(7) and section 2</title>
	<published>2009-03-15T15:56:49Z</published>
	<updated>2009-03-15T15:56:49Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>James K. Lowden-2</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">It's impossible to program sockets correctly based on the manual. &amp;nbsp;Believe
&lt;br&gt;me; I tried. &amp;nbsp;Among other things, read(2) doesn't mention that it returns
&lt;br&gt;zero to indicate the peer has closed the connection. &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Throughout the socket documentation, ERRORS is not exhaustive. &amp;nbsp;write(2)
&lt;br&gt;for instance doesn't mention that EPIPE is set (or at least *should* be,
&lt;br&gt;after SIGPIPE) after writing to a closed connection. &amp;nbsp;Nor is ENETDOWN
&lt;br&gt;mentioned. &amp;nbsp;I could go on. &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The thing is, I have a hard time believing this is an oversight, because
&lt;br&gt;NetBSD's ancestors practically invented tcp/ip. &amp;nbsp;Am I missing something,
&lt;br&gt;or does it fall to a nonexpert like me to take at least a swag at getting
&lt;br&gt;write(2) right? &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In a similar vein, I'm not aware of anything that serves as a Guide to
&lt;br&gt;Sockets. &amp;nbsp;I don't mean Sockets for Novices; I mean something that relates
&lt;br&gt;the API to the TCP/IP protocol. &amp;nbsp;What packets does
&lt;br&gt;connect/bind/listen/accept/close cause to be sent? &amp;nbsp;What does select(2)
&lt;br&gt;mean by a &amp;quot;ready&amp;quot; descriptor? &amp;nbsp;(Hint: available data or free buffers is
&lt;br&gt;only one of four cases.) &amp;nbsp;How will i/o functions behave when the network
&lt;br&gt;can't transmit data, when the peer crashes, when the peer's host crashes,
&lt;br&gt;if I down the interface? &amp;nbsp;I propose sockets(7) for the purpose. &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Perhaps some of the ambiguity and vagueness stems from uncertainty in
&lt;br&gt;flintlock times of what socket domain would be used. &amp;nbsp;All well and good,
&lt;br&gt;but surely we agree that TCP/IPv4 is commonly enough used nowadays that it
&lt;br&gt;deserves careful, detailed explication? &amp;nbsp;;-)
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;--jkl
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-22520719</id>
	<title>Are you ready to boost your self-esteem and start feeling great life?</title>
	<published>2009-03-14T21:38:08Z</published>
	<updated>2009-03-14T21:38:08Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Emma Goff</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Finally your new healthy life. &lt;a href=&quot;http://nz.imexakjueb.net/&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://nz.imexakjueb.net/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;p&gt;From forum: &lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/netbsd-docs-general-f12297.html&quot; embed=&quot;fixTarget[12297]&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; &gt;netbsd-docs general&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</content>
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