new conkeror disabling input method window

[PILCH Hartmut m7I3JBWBVq1Cc]

Hello,

I just compiled the latest Conkeror from the Git repository, using the
Xulrunner 1.9.0.3 that comes with SuSE Linux 11.0.

It works and looks somewhat different from the previous one which was based on
the Git development version of April 2008 and Xulrunner 1.9 beta.

The conspicuous difference is that an additional URL display line is used by
conkeror at the bottom.  I assume the Conkeror developpers want to provide a
status line in addition to what from Emacs is known as the minibuffer.

I wonder if the the extra programming at the bottom of the screen could be the
reason for the inability of the new Conkeror to work with the SCIM input
method daemon that you need if you want to input characters that are not on
your keyboard, e.g. East-Asian characters, on X11 systems.

SCIM works by providing a small input window in the right bottom corner of the
screen.  Certain key combinations, such as

         C-Spc
         C-A-Right
         C-A-Left

are used to change to other input methods.  When Conkeror in its old version
properly cooperated with SCIM, i.e. properly honour the input method
conventions of the X11 system that SCIM and other similar programs rely on,
the hot keys of SCIM took priority over those of Conkeror.  Now that this is
no longer the case, C-Spc has no effect whereas the other two produce a status
message

        C-M-right is undefined
        C-M-left is undefined

When I start Conkeror, the following dialog is seen:

    Loading simple Config module ...
    Creating backend ...
    <00000834>:scim_skk_imengine.cpp:122 > Create SKK Factory :
    <00000835>:scim_skk_imengine.cpp:123 > Lang : ja_JP
    <00000836>:scim_skk_imengine.cpp:124 > UUID : ec43125f-f9d3-4a77-8096-de3a35290ba9
    Loading socket FrontEnd module ...
    Starting SCIM as daemon ...
    Loading socket Config module ...
    Creating backend ...
    Loading x11 FrontEnd module ...
    Failed to load x11 FrontEnd module.
    <00000681>:scim_skk_imengine.cpp:122 > Create SKK Factory :
    <00000682>:scim_skk_imengine.cpp:123 > Lang : ja_JP
    <00000683>:scim_skk_imengine.cpp:124 > UUID : ec43125f-f9d3-4a77-8096-de3a35290ba9
    /bin/sh: /usr/bin/esd: 没有那个文件或目录

This may not be very enlightening, since similar error messages also appeared
under the old version that worked.

It should also be noted that even the old version occasionally, under
conditions which I have not been able to reproduce, produced the same kinds of
malfunctioning that the new version has so far invariably produced.

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[John J. Foerch]

On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 11:33:18AM +0200, PILCH Hartmut wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I just compiled the latest Conkeror from the Git repository, using the
> Xulrunner 1.9.0.3 that comes with SuSE Linux 11.0.
>
> It works and looks somewhat different from the previous one which was based on
> the Git development version of April 2008 and Xulrunner 1.9 beta.
>
> The conspicuous difference is that an additional URL display line is used by
> conkeror at the bottom.  I assume the Conkeror developpers want to provide a
> status line in addition to what from Emacs is known as the minibuffer.
>
> I wonder if the the extra programming at the bottom of the screen could be the
> reason for the inability of the new Conkeror to work with the SCIM input
> method daemon that you need if you want to input characters that are not on
> your keyboard, e.g. East-Asian characters, on X11 systems.

Hi Hartmut,

  I'm not sure what additional display line you're referring to.  By
default, Conkeror has both a minibuffer area and a mode-line widget.  The
mode-line indeed displays the current url, along with other information,
but Conkeror has always had a mode-line; it's not a new feature.  I use
SCIM with Conkeror without issue to type in Chinese.  My scim
configuration is as follows in my .xinitrc:

   ## scim setup
   export XMODIFIERS="@im=SCIM"
   export GTK_IM_MODULE=xim
   scim -d

  Hope this helps.

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[PILCH Hartmut m7I3JBWBVq1Cc]

> I'm not sure what additional display line you're referring to.  By
> default, Conkeror has both a minibuffer area and a mode-line widget.  The
> mode-line indeed displays the current url, along with other information,
> but Conkeror has always had a mode-line; it's not a new feature.

Indeed I confused something: the newest Conkeror which I managed to compile
has an incomplete mode line, consisting of nothing but the url of the
currently visited page, printed on the left in black letters on a transparent
background.

> I use
> SCIM with Conkeror without issue to type in Chinese.  My scim
> configuration is as follows in my .xinitrc:
>
>    ## scim setup
>    export XMODIFIERS="@im=SCIM"
>    export GTK_IM_MODULE=xim

This line had different values in my configuration: 'scim-bridge', in one
variant 'scim'.  I haven't been able to ascertain the effects of these.
Since I'm working under Ratpoison, maybe GTK isn't important for my environment.

>    scim -d
>
> Hope this helps

Probably, but so far I have more things going wrong than ever but under no
reproducible conditions.

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[PILCH Hartmut m7I3JBWBVq1Cc]

> Probably, but so far I have more things going wrong than ever but under no
> reproducible conditions.

Now everything suddenly is working correctly, and I still haven't singled out
the conditions on which this depends.  Sorry for the confusion.

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