occasional lyric misalignment

[Todd M. Lewis]

I've seen a few instances of lyric alignment that have me baffled. Consider the
lilypond 2.10.33 input file
http://tarna.oit.unc.edu/~utoddl/lilypond/for_all_the_faithful_women.tex
and the corresponding outputs, either
http://tarna.oit.unc.edu/~utoddl/lilypond/01-for_all_the_faithful_women.eps or
http://tarna.oit.unc.edu/~utoddl/lilypond/01-for_all_the_faithful_women.LZW.tiff

Look at the 3rd system, beginning of the 2nd full measure, where the b-flat is
tied to the a-natural. The lyrics beneath that are all left aligned with the
b-flat. Even if I change the source to explicitly left, right or middle align
those words, the remain stubbornly left aligned.


Another instance of this problem is in
http://tarna.oit.unc.edu/~utoddl/lilypond/ctlisrisentoday.tex
http://tarna.oit.unc.edu/~utoddl/lilypond/ctlisrisentoday.ps

Here the problem shows up at the beginning of the last (4th) system. Again, all
the lyrics at the start of that measure are left aligned. Throughout the rest of
the piece they are all centered under their respective notes.

I can't figure out what's causing this, and it's really driving me nuts. If I
can provide any further information, I'll be happy to try.

Thanks,
--
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[Francisco Vila-5]

2009/11/4 Todd Lewis <utoddl@...>:
> Look at the 3rd system, beginning of the 2nd full measure, where the b-flat is
> tied to the a-natural. The lyrics beneath that are all left aligned with the
> b-flat. Even if I change the source to explicitly left, right or middle align
> those words, the remain stubbornly left aligned.

This is the rule correctly applied that establishes syllables
left-aligned on first note of a melisma.
> Another instance of this problem is in
> http://tarna.oit.unc.edu/~utoddl/lilypond/ctlisrisentoday.tex
> http://tarna.oit.unc.edu/~utoddl/lilypond/ctlisrisentoday.ps
>
> Here the problem shows up at the beginning of the last (4th) system. Again, all
> the lyrics at the start of that measure are left aligned. Throughout the rest of
> the piece they are all centered under their respective notes.

This is manually overriden in the file.  Again, I find this correct
because that way different phrases (both textual and musical) begin at
the same horizontally aligned point.

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Francisco Vila. Badajoz (Spain)
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[Neil Puttock]

2009/11/4 Francisco Vila <paconet.org@...>:

> This is the rule correctly applied that establishes syllables
> left-aligned on first note of a melisma.

Indeed, though the automatic melisma caused by the slur should be
ignored on `world' by setting ignoreMelismata (this only works
properly from 2.13.2 since there was a bug preventing the alignment
being reset to centre).

Regards,
Neil


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[Mats Bengtsson-4]

Francisco Vila wrote:

> 2009/11/4 Todd Lewis <utoddl@...>:
>  
>> Look at the 3rd system, beginning of the 2nd full measure, where the b-flat is
>> tied to the a-natural. The lyrics beneath that are all left aligned with the
>> b-flat. Even if I change the source to explicitly left, right or middle align
>> those words, the remain stubbornly left aligned.
>>    
>
> This is the rule correctly applied that establishes syllables
> left-aligned on first note of a melisma.
>  
>> Another instance of this problem is in
>> http://tarna.oit.unc.edu/~utoddl/lilypond/ctlisrisentoday.tex
>> http://tarna.oit.unc.edu/~utoddl/lilypond/ctlisrisentoday.ps
>>
>> Here the problem shows up at the beginning of the last (4th) system. Again, all
>> the lyrics at the start of that measure are left aligned. Throughout the rest of
>> the piece they are all centered under their respective notes.
>>    
>
> This is manually overriden in the file.  Again, I find this correct
> because that way different phrases (both textual and musical) begin at
> the same horizontally aligned point.
>  

Note that you can change this is configurable in LilyPond. If you want
centered alignment also for melismas, just do
\set lyricMelismaAlignment = #CENTER
within the corresponding Lyrics context.

    /Mats


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