openlaszlo and ruby on rails.

[Mauro-27]

Are there some crud application examples with openlaszlo and ruby on rails?
I've read laszlo in action but I didn't understood how to use
openlaszlo with ruby on rails.

[Raju Bitter-5]

Oliver Steele built a Rails plugin in 2006, I think: http://laszlo-plugin.rubyforge.org/

Sarah Allen has been doing some work to make it easy to embed  
OpenLaszlo applications in Rails views: http://github.com/ultrasaurus/openlaszlo_plugin

And Max Carlson has built some demos using Rails, he can tell you more.

Best,
Raju

On Nov 8, 2009, at 11:50 AM, Mauro wrote:

> Are there some crud application examples with openlaszlo and ruby on  
> rails?
> I've read laszlo in action but I didn't understood how to use
> openlaszlo with ruby on rails.

[Mauro-27]

2009/11/8 Raju Bitter <rajubitter@...>:
> Oliver Steele built a Rails plugin in 2006, I think:
> http://laszlo-plugin.rubyforge.org/
>
> Sarah Allen has been doing some work to make it easy to embed OpenLaszlo
> applications in Rails views: http://github.com/ultrasaurus/openlaszlo_plugin
>
> And Max Carlson has built some demos using Rails, he can tell you more.

Sorry for my ignorance but I think openlaszlo is not very integrated with rails.
Using laszlo plugin for example I see that I don't need models in
rails, it is like I've to program in laszlo only.
This gem http://wiki.github.com/dima/restfulx/restfulx-framework-and-rails-21
is much more integrated with rails, I can use rails models, I can use
rails validation, but it is for flex.

[Raju Bitter-5]

Mauro,

I agree with you here. The OpenLaszlo community never was good at  
connecting to start working on a better integration of frontend and  
backend. Actually there was never enough support within the technical  
management to build some solid RoR integration for OpenLaszlo -  
something people have been asking. Some people thought, that the  
approach of code generation doesn't provide enough value.

But if you connect with Sarah and Max, they might be interest in  
working on such a module. I believe, that - if we'd manage to have  
more on-sight meetings of community members - it would be possible to  
hack a good integration module with 2-3 people on a weekend. Just to  
get started, and then refine the gem. When I asked for a 5 years of  
OpenLaszlo community meeting, there was neither enough interest at  
Laszlo nor within the community to organize an event. In my eyes, the  
value of OpenLaszlo as open source is greatly reduced by the fact that  
people solve the same problem over and over in their own projects, not  
committing anything back to a community open source project, e.g. good  
RoR integration. Oliver Steele, Sarah Allen and Max Carlson have  
already done some good work here, but we'd need more support to get  
something going.

In the end that means: OpenLaszlo is a very expensive technology  
compared to Flex: a lot more of the basic stuff needs to be coded. If  
you use Flex 50% of what you need is already there. But that's just my  
oppinion.
Best,
Raju

On Nov 8, 2009, at 4:05 PM, Mauro wrote:

> 2009/11/8 Raju Bitter <rajubitter@...>:
>> Oliver Steele built a Rails plugin in 2006, I think:
>> http://laszlo-plugin.rubyforge.org/
>>
>> Sarah Allen has been doing some work to make it easy to embed  
>> OpenLaszlo
>> applications in Rails views: http://github.com/ultrasaurus/openlaszlo_plugin
>>
>> And Max Carlson has built some demos using Rails, he can tell you  
>> more.
>
> Sorry for my ignorance but I think openlaszlo is not very integrated  
> with rails.
> Using laszlo plugin for example I see that I don't need models in
> rails, it is like I've to program in laszlo only.
> This gem http://wiki.github.com/dima/restfulx/restfulx-framework-and-rails-21
> is much more integrated with rails, I can use rails models, I can use
> rails validation, but it is for flex.