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	<title>Nabble - openoffice - projects</title>
	<updated>2009-12-02T08:09:49Z</updated>
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26611633</id>
	<title>Re: ODF Icons</title>
	<published>2009-12-02T08:09:49Z</published>
	<updated>2009-12-02T08:09:49Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Lutz Hoeger</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Elizabeth Matthis schrieb:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Just for those of you who don't read the UX discuss list. &amp;nbsp;Lutz posted
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; minutes on the wiki (see his link below). Here is a quote from the
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; minutes which might interest some of you visual-design-types who want to
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; be of help in the ODF icon discussions:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Hi Liz,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Thanks for spreading the word! I would be more than happy if any
&lt;br&gt;feedback would be directed to discuss@ux, so the i-Team doesn't need to
&lt;br&gt;look in too many different places for feedback.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Thanks, Lutz.
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26611125</id>
	<title>Re: Afrikaans OOo translation recovery</title>
	<published>2009-12-02T07:48:50Z</published>
	<updated>2009-12-02T07:48:50Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Rafaella Braconi</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Hi Dwayne,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I consulted with Ivo and we think you can take the m66.
&lt;br&gt;I assume you are not asking which milestone for the OOo 3.2 release...
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Rafaella
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;On 01.12.09 12:55, Dwayne Bailey wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Hi,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; We're updating some of our Afrikaans OOo translations. &amp;nbsp;Before I spend
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; too much time migrating and reviewing I just wanted to check which
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; milestones I should be targeting. &amp;nbsp;Thanks in advance.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; 
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26610413</id>
	<title>OOo@FOSDEM 2010: Call for Papers</title>
	<published>2009-12-02T07:06:03Z</published>
	<updated>2009-12-02T07:06:03Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Juergen Schmidt-3</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Hi,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;the OpenOffice.org project will have again a DevRoom at the FOSDEM 2010. 
&lt;br&gt;The conference will take place from 6-7 February 2010 in Brussels, 
&lt;br&gt;Belgium. Our DevRoom will be on Saturday February 6th from 1:00pm to 7:00pm.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It is up to us to organize an interesting and exciting DevRoom to 
&lt;br&gt;present our project and to show that OpenOffice.org offers a wide area 
&lt;br&gt;for developers. The DevRoom should attract potential new developers as 
&lt;br&gt;well as experienced ones. We should share our knowledge with others, 
&lt;br&gt;should organize coding or QA sessions, workshops or talks where we refer 
&lt;br&gt;about or highlight a special topic.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;You can be part of it!
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If you are interested in doing a talk, a workshop or coding/QA session 
&lt;br&gt;please let us know. Please submit your proposal on the wiki page 
&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/FOSDEM/2010/CFP&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/FOSDEM/2010/CFP&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;until December 
&lt;br&gt;18th 2009.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It is not yet guaranteed that we can sponsor our speakers next year 
&lt;br&gt;again but it's likely that we can sponsor at least parts of the costs. 
&lt;br&gt;So don't hesitate and submit your proposal. We are looking forward to 
&lt;br&gt;receive it.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Thanks
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Juergen
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26609688</id>
	<title>Re: Wikidoc: {{DISPLAYTITLE:{{SUBPAGENAME}}}} works fine</title>
	<published>2009-12-02T06:22:52Z</published>
	<updated>2009-12-02T06:22:52Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Nino Novak-2</name>
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	<content type="html">On Wednesday 02 December 2009 13:04, Clayton wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt; (is there anybody interested in my findings at all?)
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; I am very interested in learning anything I can about how to do the
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; user guides better on the wiki.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; I'm definitely interested too.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Ok, then I at least won't feel bad at that point ,-)
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Nino
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26609258</id>
	<title>DB-server outage 2009-Dec-03 8:00 MET/7:00 GMT</title>
	<published>2009-12-02T05:48:37Z</published>
	<updated>2009-12-02T05:48:37Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Dirk Marquardt</name>
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	<content type="html">HI!
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;We have to reboot the DB Server
&lt;br&gt;Therefore the EIS-tool gets stooped 
&lt;br&gt;(&lt;a href=&quot;http://tools.services.openoffice.org/EIS2/&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://tools.services.openoffice.org/EIS2/&lt;/a&gt;). Please stay tuned for
&lt;br&gt;further updates, thank you.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Downtime 08:00h MET/07:00 GMT 2009-Dec-03
&lt;br&gt;Duration approx. 30 min.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Dirk
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26608579</id>
	<title>Re: HSQLDB 1.9 Testing needed</title>
	<published>2009-12-02T05:07:29Z</published>
	<updated>2009-12-02T05:07:29Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Reizinger Zoltán</name>
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	<content type="html">Moin Ocke,
&lt;br&gt;I tested some new features of 1.9 in cws
&lt;br&gt;One question regarding BACKUP command it could create &amp;nbsp;backup files on 
&lt;br&gt;file system, it will be supported?
&lt;br&gt;When I run this command:
&lt;br&gt;BACKUP DATABASE TO 'C:\backup.tgz' BLOCKING
&lt;br&gt;Get error, in SQL command window:
&lt;br&gt;5: file input/output error: Required file is missing: &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;C:\Downloads\OOotest\hsqldb19\Alkalmazottak31_1111.odb.properties in 
&lt;br&gt;statement [BACKUP DATABASE TO 'C:\backup.tgz' BLOCKING]
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Zoltan
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Ocke Janssen írta:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; The upload of the newest sources from hsqldb is ready to test. It 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; includes clob and blob handling. I also adjusted the wizards and did 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; also some refactoring. So it would be good idea to test this very well 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; ;-) (all wizards)
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; - oj
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26608322</id>
	<title>Re: We're through to the top three</title>
	<published>2009-12-02T04:46:25Z</published>
	<updated>2009-12-02T04:46:25Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Florian Effenberger-2</name>
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	<content type="html">Hi John,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Our Press Release for the 3.1 launch has been judged one of &amp;quot;the three top
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; online news releases of 2009&amp;quot;:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.prweb.com/releases/top-three/releases-2009/prweb3285904.htm&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.prweb.com/releases/top-three/releases-2009/prweb3285904.htm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;congratulations! This is awesome. :-)
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; You can vote for the overall winner here:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.prweb.com/pr/best-online-news-releases-2009.html&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.prweb.com/pr/best-online-news-releases-2009.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Let's hope lots of people vote for us - it would be good publicity for the
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Community.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I keep my fingers crossed!
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Florian
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26608033</id>
	<title>Re: Pootle account</title>
	<published>2009-12-02T04:23:35Z</published>
	<updated>2009-12-02T04:23:35Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Rimas Kudelis</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">2009.11.30 08:15, Rimas Kudelis rašė:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Hi,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; I'd like to get an account on Pootle with all the necessary permissions
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; to work on Lithuanian translations. What's the procedure?
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Rimas
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; 
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;PING, anyone?
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Rimas
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26607829</id>
	<title>Re: new l10n builds available from cws localization37fix</title>
	<published>2009-12-02T04:05:40Z</published>
	<updated>2009-12-02T04:05:40Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Ivo Hinkelmann - Sun Germany -</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Hi Olivier,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;yes please file an issue !
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Cheers,
&lt;br&gt;Ivo
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Olivier Hallot schrieb:
&lt;div class='shrinkable-quote'&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Hi Ivo and List
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; I have one small glitch in dbaccess/source/ui/dlg.po (for pt-BR). Do you 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; need me to file an Issue?
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Also, a question for other translators... Please confirm if your 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; language is affected by
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=106004&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=106004&lt;/a&gt;.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Regards,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Olivier
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Ivo Hinkelmann escreveu:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Hi,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; I merged the latest fixes I found so far on pootle and from some 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; issues. I created new installsets for the languages that changed:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; my ja uz fr nl vi ca pt-BR ru gl ko om gu zh-CN or de ta hu lv tr ast 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; id eo es is it
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; You can find the builds here:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://ooo.services.openoffice.org/pub/OpenOffice.org/cws/upload/localization/localization37fix/&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://ooo.services.openoffice.org/pub/OpenOffice.org/cws/upload/localization/localization37fix/&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; This cws will be integrated on friday, I know there are only 2 days 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; left for testing but this cws should only cover some minor fixes. 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Extending the test time is not possible or we violate the release 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; schedule ...
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Please report any issue *ASAP* !!!!
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
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	<title>Re: Wikidoc: {{DISPLAYTITLE:{{SUBPAGENAME}}}} works fine</title>
	<published>2009-12-02T04:04:06Z</published>
	<updated>2009-12-02T04:04:06Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>ccornell - OpenOffice.org</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">&amp;gt;&amp;gt; (is there anybody interested in my findings at all?)
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; I am very interested in learning anything I can about how to do the user 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; guides better on the wiki.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I'm definitely interested too.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;A lot of how things are done in the OOoWiki now in the Documentation 
&lt;br&gt;Project and other places are simply because that's the best way we knew 
&lt;br&gt;how at the time. &amp;nbsp;We're definitely not using the MediaWiki syntax and 
&lt;br&gt;parser tools to their full extent. &amp;nbsp;I think we've only brushed the 
&lt;br&gt;surface of what is possible in MW :-)
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Not every discovery will be helpful in every place, but look at the 
&lt;br&gt;improvements that have been made recently.. the changes you guys made to 
&lt;br&gt;the Master TOC, the relative linking suggestion you had Nino... the 
&lt;br&gt;experiments with Interwiki linking from Bjoern... It's all really 
&lt;br&gt;interesting, and all stuff we can use.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;C.
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26607132</id>
	<title>Re: Default Translation Links</title>
	<published>2009-12-02T03:03:22Z</published>
	<updated>2009-12-02T03:03:22Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>ccornell - OpenOffice.org</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">bjoern michaelsen - Sun Microsystems - Hamburg Germany wrote:
&lt;div class='shrinkable-quote'&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Hi List,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; here is a template that creates links to the translated pages, if they
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; exist at the recommended location:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/User:B_michaelsen/Default_Language_Links&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/User:B_michaelsen/Default_Language_Links&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Here is a test showing how it works:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/User:B_michaelsen/Default_Language_Links_Test&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/User:B_michaelsen/Default_Language_Links_Test&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/User:DE/B_michaelsen/Default_Language_Links_Test&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/User:DE/B_michaelsen/Default_Language_Links_Test&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Maybe that should be used on pretty much all pages that have a
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; translation? It would also encourage using the standard locations for
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; translations.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; This template would only work on the english pages linking to the
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; translated pages, but not on a translated page themselves, because to
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; navigate from one translated page to another one needs to
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; replace/remove the language prefix instead of prepending it. However,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; this is a start and a template to use on the translated pages is just a
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; little more work.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Opinions? Otherwise, feel free to copy the template into the global
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; namespace and use it. ;-)
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br&gt;If I follow this right.. this will only work if the PAGENAMEs are 
&lt;br&gt;identical below the ISO lang code. &amp;nbsp;That is not being done with any 
&lt;br&gt;consistency on any Wiki docs except the Developer's, Admin and Basic 
&lt;br&gt;Guides. &amp;nbsp;Also, as you said it is not working to go from any language 
&lt;br&gt;except the English pages.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I've used a variation on this that works both ways, but requires passing 
&lt;br&gt;a variable to get around restrictions on the PAGENAME variable. &amp;nbsp;When a 
&lt;br&gt;translation is done, the translatior has to do nothing more than copying 
&lt;br&gt;the Template name to the translated page... then he/she automatcially 
&lt;br&gt;will get all known translated languages.
&lt;br&gt;I've used one template per manual to allow for the dfferent languages 
&lt;br&gt;the documents have been translated into. &amp;nbsp;For example the Dev Guide uses:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Template:Documentation/DevGuideLanguages&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Template:Documentation/DevGuideLanguages&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;and the Admin guide uses:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Template:InterWiki_Languages_AdminGuide&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Template:InterWiki_Languages_AdminGuide&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;(which now that I look at it, needs to be cleaned up... different naming 
&lt;br&gt;structure because it was done at different times)
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Restrictions on the PAGENAME variable... you can only have the entire 
&lt;br&gt;page name including the ISO lang code at the beginning or the very last 
&lt;br&gt;subpage (SUBPAGENAME). &amp;nbsp;Short of fiddling with lots of parser coding, 
&lt;br&gt;you cannot easily extract everything past the ISO Lang code.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I wonder if there is some combination of the two ideas we can use?
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;C.
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26606813</id>
	<title>ODF Icons</title>
	<published>2009-12-02T02:36:41Z</published>
	<updated>2009-12-02T02:36:41Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Elizabeth Matthis</name>
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	<content type="html">Hi All,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Just for those of you who don't read the UX discuss list. &amp;nbsp;Lutz posted 
&lt;br&gt;minutes on the wiki (see his link below). Here is a quote from the 
&lt;br&gt;minutes which might interest some of you visual-design-types who want to 
&lt;br&gt;be of help in the ODF icon discussions:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; * Current discussions about the project take place in discuss@ux and
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; dev@marketing; Still, discuss@ux is the preferred mailing list,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; which will also be used by this i-team for communication.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; * Feedback is mixed, there are pro-speakers as well as cons.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; * Still no formal UX support in place; Invitation still open; Will
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; continue without formal UX i-Team member if no-one joins the i-Team.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; * i-Team also still lacking Documentation support; unclear if we
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; need it; Lutz will clarify.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; * We do need a build to get the current implementation out into
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; user's hands for better feedback; Mikhail will work on this.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; * We haven't yet settled on an integration target; it might be
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 3.2.1, but can also (more likely) be shifted to 3.3; we shouldn't
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; exclude any of the possibilities technically.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; * Communication with external designers just started (two folks from
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; Novell); Meeting to be scheduled.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Kind regards,
&lt;br&gt;Liz
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;-------- Original Message --------
&lt;br&gt;Subject: 	Re: [ux-discuss] Unified ODF Icons - starting over
&lt;br&gt;Date: 	Tue, 01 Dec 2009 14:43:58 +0100
&lt;br&gt;From: 	Lutz Hoeger &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26606813&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Lutz.Hoeger@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;
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&lt;br&gt;References: 	&amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26606813&amp;i=3&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;72b38cf16aa2bc620e5d47c38542d7@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;lt;1257022236.4450.181.camel@brummbrumm&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26606813&amp;i=4&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;7d9688473a471114c55bbebdf82d425b@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Hi,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Just a brief posting about the first public minutes from our i-team
&lt;br&gt;meetings:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; - weekly i-team meeting (phone / irc), public meeting minutes
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Done (setup). The i-Team meets weekly on Thursday; don't expect minutes
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; before the meeting ;-) But please feel free to suggest agenda topics.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Minutes from our meeting are available:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Unified_ODF_Icons_-_Minutes&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Unified_ODF_Icons_-_Minutes&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Lutz.
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26606791</id>
	<title>Default Translation Links</title>
	<published>2009-12-02T02:28:22Z</published>
	<updated>2009-12-02T02:28:22Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>bjoern michaelsen - Sun Microsystems - Hamburg Germany</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Hi List,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;here is a template that creates links to the translated pages, if they
&lt;br&gt;exist at the recommended location:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/User:B_michaelsen/Default_Language_Links&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/User:B_michaelsen/Default_Language_Links&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Here is a test showing how it works:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/User:B_michaelsen/Default_Language_Links_Test&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/User:B_michaelsen/Default_Language_Links_Test&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/User:DE/B_michaelsen/Default_Language_Links_Test&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/User:DE/B_michaelsen/Default_Language_Links_Test&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Maybe that should be used on pretty much all pages that have a
&lt;br&gt;translation? It would also encourage using the standard locations for
&lt;br&gt;translations.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;This template would only work on the english pages linking to the
&lt;br&gt;translated pages, but not on a translated page themselves, because to
&lt;br&gt;navigate from one translated page to another one needs to
&lt;br&gt;replace/remove the language prefix instead of prepending it. However,
&lt;br&gt;this is a start and a template to use on the translated pages is just a
&lt;br&gt;little more work.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Opinions? Otherwise, feel free to copy the template into the global
&lt;br&gt;namespace and use it. ;-)
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Best Regards,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Bjoern Michaelsen
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26606484</id>
	<title>Re: Multiple dictionaries on the same extension.</title>
	<published>2009-12-02T02:24:52Z</published>
	<updated>2009-12-02T02:24:52Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>massimeddu</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Yes, it is!
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I opened a task here
&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://lingucomponent.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=107288&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://lingucomponent.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=107288&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://lingucomponent.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=107288&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://lingucomponent.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=107288&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;Massimeddu.
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26606712</id>
	<title>Re: Re: Missing interfaces in OOo 3.2: Why not a blocker?</title>
	<published>2009-12-02T02:16:11Z</published>
	<updated>2009-12-02T02:16:11Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Juergen Schmidt-3</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Daniel B. wrote:
&lt;div class='shrinkable-quote'&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Hi,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 1:48 PM, Juergen Schmidt
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26606712&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Juergen.Schmidt@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt; wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Daniel B. wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Since our (and potentially a lot of other) extension breaks with this
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; change this is a major issue that prevents us from rolling out OOo
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; 3.2. Reverting the change until OOo 4.0 would give us enough time to
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; update our extension and roll out the updated version. So I support
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Michael's suggestion to re-implement the interfaces that are missing,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; at least temporary, and document the change so that people are aware
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; of the issue and can adapt their macros/extensions.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; until now you are the only one with this problem. How many places using this
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; code do you have in your extension? We gave you the necessary info to do it
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; correct. It should be not really a big change i guess but anyway. I let it
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; up to others to decide if it is a showstopper or not.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; But how can we prevent you from rolling out 3.2 when it is not already final
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; and released? Either you change your broken or wrong extensions or we do the
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; changes back. You have to do it anyway in the near future whereas we have
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; double work. Sounds not really optimal ;-)
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; We really shouldn't argue this based on who has the most work because
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; of this change but based on what is the right thing to do in this
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; case. The fact of the matter is that multiple interfaces were removed
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; without advance notice. Sure, these interfaces may have been included
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; in error in the first place but since neither the &amp;quot;wrong&amp;quot; interfaces
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; nor the right way to do it were documented how could someone have
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; known that he used something that wasn't even supposed to be there? So
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; you can't really blame someone for using those interfaces. Okay, maybe
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; you CAN blame them for using _anything_ that isn't documented but in
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; this case that would have meant to just completely do without this
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; functionality which wasn't really a good option either.
&lt;/div&gt;i don't want to blame anybody but i wanted to raise more awareness. If 
&lt;br&gt;an API is not documented (which should be fixed always) ask before you 
&lt;br&gt;use it. That would prevent situations like this. Nobody should rely on 
&lt;br&gt;the given implementation when it is not documented. If yes than they 
&lt;br&gt;have to live with changes.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The users of our API can help a lot to improve APIs and the 
&lt;br&gt;documentation by communicating their problems, their ideas etc. Don't 
&lt;br&gt;hesitate to submit an issue. It's always a valuable contribution and 
&lt;br&gt;don't take it personal if an issue/feature request won't be fixed.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; So, removing the interfaces in general is fine, but not without giving
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; people ample time to react to this change and to learn how to do it
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; right. Just breaking their extensions/macros from one minor version to
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; the next isn't very nice.
&lt;br&gt;i agree at least a note on interface-announce should have taken place. 
&lt;br&gt;But the developer forget it and didn't thought about the relevance i guess
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; But yes, I'm biased because our extension is affected. You are right
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; that it's not such a big change, and I may have exaggerated a bit. But
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; you must understand that it's a bit of a shock when you realize that
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; some interfaces suddenly just disappear from OOo 3.1 to 3.2 without
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; any warning or explanation. It also has the effect that you begin to
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; wonder what else could have gone missing that maybe you didn't notice
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; in your test cases.
&lt;br&gt;i agree again and yes we should try to improve the overall situation. We 
&lt;br&gt;need also better tests. When we allow even incompatible changes in the 
&lt;br&gt;future it should never happen without a clear communication and a well 
&lt;br&gt;documented workaround.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Anyway, we now have an explanation what happened and we can do the
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; necessary changes. I still think it would be better to postpone the
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; removal of the interfaces to a later version, but if really noone else
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; has a problem with it I'm not going to argue any further.
&lt;br&gt;as i mentioned before it's up to you to put it on or suggest it for the 
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&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Regards
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Juergen
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Regards,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Daniel
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26606353</id>
	<title>Re: Re: Missing interfaces in OOo 3.2: Why not a blocker?</title>
	<published>2009-12-02T01:55:24Z</published>
	<updated>2009-12-02T01:55:24Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Daniel B.-7</name>
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	<content type="html">Hi,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 1:48 PM, Juergen Schmidt
&lt;br&gt;&amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26606353&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Juergen.Schmidt@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt; wrote:
&lt;div class='shrinkable-quote'&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Daniel B. wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Since our (and potentially a lot of other) extension breaks with this
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; change this is a major issue that prevents us from rolling out OOo
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; 3.2. Reverting the change until OOo 4.0 would give us enough time to
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; update our extension and roll out the updated version. So I support
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Michael's suggestion to re-implement the interfaces that are missing,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; at least temporary, and document the change so that people are aware
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; of the issue and can adapt their macros/extensions.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; until now you are the only one with this problem. How many places using this
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; code do you have in your extension? We gave you the necessary info to do it
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; correct. It should be not really a big change i guess but anyway. I let it
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; up to others to decide if it is a showstopper or not.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; But how can we prevent you from rolling out 3.2 when it is not already final
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; and released? Either you change your broken or wrong extensions or we do the
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; changes back. You have to do it anyway in the near future whereas we have
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; double work. Sounds not really optimal ;-)
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br&gt;We really shouldn't argue this based on who has the most work because
&lt;br&gt;of this change but based on what is the right thing to do in this
&lt;br&gt;case. The fact of the matter is that multiple interfaces were removed
&lt;br&gt;without advance notice. Sure, these interfaces may have been included
&lt;br&gt;in error in the first place but since neither the &amp;quot;wrong&amp;quot; interfaces
&lt;br&gt;nor the right way to do it were documented how could someone have
&lt;br&gt;known that he used something that wasn't even supposed to be there? So
&lt;br&gt;you can't really blame someone for using those interfaces. Okay, maybe
&lt;br&gt;you CAN blame them for using _anything_ that isn't documented but in
&lt;br&gt;this case that would have meant to just completely do without this
&lt;br&gt;functionality which wasn't really a good option either.
&lt;br&gt;So, removing the interfaces in general is fine, but not without giving
&lt;br&gt;people ample time to react to this change and to learn how to do it
&lt;br&gt;right. Just breaking their extensions/macros from one minor version to
&lt;br&gt;the next isn't very nice.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;But yes, I'm biased because our extension is affected. You are right
&lt;br&gt;that it's not such a big change, and I may have exaggerated a bit. But
&lt;br&gt;you must understand that it's a bit of a shock when you realize that
&lt;br&gt;some interfaces suddenly just disappear from OOo 3.1 to 3.2 without
&lt;br&gt;any warning or explanation. It also has the effect that you begin to
&lt;br&gt;wonder what else could have gone missing that maybe you didn't notice
&lt;br&gt;in your test cases.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Anyway, we now have an explanation what happened and we can do the
&lt;br&gt;necessary changes. I still think it would be better to postpone the
&lt;br&gt;removal of the interfaces to a later version, but if really noone else
&lt;br&gt;has a problem with it I'm not going to argue any further.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Regards,
&lt;br&gt;Daniel
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	<title>Re: ODF desktop icons for OOo</title>
	<published>2009-12-02T00:41:47Z</published>
	<updated>2009-12-02T00:41:47Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Juergen Schmidt-3</name>
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	<content type="html">Bernhard Dippold wrote:
&lt;div class='shrinkable-quote'&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Hi Peter, all,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Peter Junge wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; John McCreesh wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; On Thu, November 26, 2009 6:59 pm, Bernhard Dippold wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; [snip]
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt; 1. ODF branding is important, but should not lead to weakening of OOo
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt; branding on user's desktops.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt; 2. The OOo document icons are part of our visual identity and 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; therefore
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt; used in several marketing areas. We should not give up this chance as
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt; there might be an alternative (icons with both branding elements).
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; I remember how annoyed I was when I installed an early beta of Lotus
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; Symphony and it replaced all my OOo desktop icons with the horribly 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; garish
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; IBM ones.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Isn't this a general issue? Whatever installation comes last provides
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; the icons.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; If it is not customizable during installation...
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; As ODF becomes established, users may well have multiple ODF supporting
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; applications on their desktops. So IMHO having all those applications
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; sharing a standard set of desktop icons is not terribly useful. 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Users need
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; to know what application will start when they click an icon.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Unfortunately, there can only be one icon per file format with current
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; desktop environments regardless of the number of supporting applications
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; installed, as well different users might have a different preferences to
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; choose standard or application specific icons, hence there has to be a
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; solution to meet the users will in an easy way.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; My approach: show the user by the icons which application is the 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; standard one to open a certain file format. This may be done by an 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; application symbol in rather low contrast (to keep the main interest on 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; the ODF part).
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; At least if people want to modify their documents it is important which 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; application is opening, beacuse the features differ quite a lot. If you 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; only want to view a PDF or JPG file (or hear a MP3), this is less 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; important.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; General remark: I didn't find the time to read the whole discussion
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; here, so I might reiterate things that have already been said. Anyway I
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; think this discussion is mostly happening at the wrong place. As we have
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; often emphasized &amp;quot;OOo is not equal ODF&amp;quot;. Consequently, a standardized
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; set of icons for ODF should be specified and provided by the ODF
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Adoption TC at OASIS [1]. Subsequently the ODF Adoption TC would
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; recommend the use of this icon set to the implementers and later measure
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; the success of its work.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; The present iconset has been created by the art team at Sun and is 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; already integrated in StarOffice 9.2. Integration in OOo has been hold 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; back (probably until OOo 3.3) to coordinate with the project while in 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; the meantime contact to OASIS has been searched.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; In my eyes this should have been coordinated before - and I read some of 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; the comments here and on other lists, that there are several backdrafts 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; in the present icons that should be handled before the request to define 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; them as officially approved OASIS iconset.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Personal remark: I would strongly prefer standardized icon sets for any
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; file format. IMHO the clear type recognition should be the main priority
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; for ease of use.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; As mentioned before: because different applications provide different 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; actions to one file format (one is viewer, others are meant to modify 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; the file), I'd like to add an area in the icons that shows a symbol or 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; graphical element of the standard application opening the file.
&lt;/div&gt;mmh, maybe you can show us something real instead of repeating again and 
&lt;br&gt;again that it should have been done differently.
&lt;br&gt;Show us your icons and we can discuss it.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;And sorry if it sounds unfriendly but talking only is not enough and we 
&lt;br&gt;already know your opinion.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Just my 2 cents
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Juergen
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;div class='shrinkable-quote'&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; A consistent set of icons provided by the desktop seems
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; to be very nice from the artwork point of view, but sometimes leads to
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; hardly distinguishable similarities.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; I agree with you on the benefit of a general symbol language - without 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; regards to the application, a text document should be represented by the 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; same symbols. But I don't see a reason to remove the application 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; information from the icons...
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Best regards
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Bernhard
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	<title>Re: Re: Error message &quot;No content provider available for URL!&quot;</title>
	<published>2009-12-02T00:39:27Z</published>
	<updated>2009-12-02T00:39:27Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Peter Eberlein-3</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Am 02.12.2009 08:48, schrieb Frank Schoenheit, Sun Microsystems Germany:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;DBaseName = ConvertURL( &amp;quot;C:\RahStuff\Base_Stuff\Cleve_CBC.odb&amp;quot; )
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&lt;br&gt;meant ConvertToURL of course,
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	<title>We're through to the top three</title>
	<published>2009-12-02T00:39:05Z</published>
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		<name>John McCreesh</name>
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	<content type="html">Our Press Release for the 3.1 launch has been judged one of &amp;quot;the three top
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	<title>Re: Online Help for Image Maps</title>
	<published>2009-12-02T00:22:25Z</published>
	<updated>2009-12-02T00:22:25Z</updated>
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		<name>Martina Waller</name>
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	<content type="html">On 12/02/09 01:22, Jean Hollis Weber wrote:
&lt;div class='shrinkable-quote'&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; I'm not sure if the online_help list is still in use, as no one has 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; posted to it since March 2008. So I'm posting here as well as there.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; I've been trying to work out some details about image maps. The 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; ImageMap Editor does not have a Help button, so I used the Help index 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; to try to find more info. Later I stumbled on one Help page by 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; accident, by clicking on the Properties button on the ImageMap Editor 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; and then on the Help button which I found there. I was unable to reach 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; this Help page from any of the other Help pages about ImageMap or the 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; ImageMap Editor (even the one that mentions the Properties button and 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; what it does).
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Is this on the list of indexing improvements to be made?
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; --Jean
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26605033</id>
	<title>Re: problem repaint formcontrols ..</title>
	<published>2009-12-02T00:12:50Z</published>
	<updated>2009-12-02T00:12:50Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Cor Nouws</name>
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	<content type="html">Hi Peter,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Peter Eberlein wrote (2-12-2009 9:05)
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; In our company we are using version 2.2 for various reasons (with 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; WindowsXP SP 2).
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp;From time to time all controls are vanishing (in live mode). The users 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; are frustrated, because the only way to restore is a restart of the office.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; The controls are anchored at paragraph.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The problem I found is different.
&lt;br&gt;Had some contact last night with Frank. Resulted in issue 107365.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; The behavior is not reproducable, so I didn't submit an issue.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Next time I will take a look at the desktop theme, never got attention 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; to that.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Hoping this problems I won't see when migrating to 3.x.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Indeed!
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Best,
&lt;br&gt;Cor
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	<title>Re: problem repaint formcontrols ..</title>
	<published>2009-12-02T00:03:10Z</published>
	<updated>2009-12-02T00:03:10Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Peter Eberlein-3</name>
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	<content type="html">Hi Frank,
&lt;br&gt;Am 01.12.2009 22:34, schrieb Frank Schoenheit, Sun Microsystems Germany:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Hi Cor,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; While working in m6, writer document with form controls.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; When editing some text, the form control becomes invisible. Which can be
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; corrected by zooming / scrolling.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Was the same in M5, maybe earlier?
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Known problem?
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;div class='shrinkable-quote'&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Not that I know.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Cannot reproduce out of the box, interesting questions include: design
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; mode or alive mode or both? Control is anchored where? Does the typed
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; text overlap with the control position? Does your page have a
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; non-default background? Does it affect transparent or non-transparent
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; controls only, or both? Do you use a OS/Desktop with desktop theming, or
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; one without (such as WinXP classic)?
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br&gt;In our company we are using version 2.2 for various reasons (with 
&lt;br&gt;WindowsXP SP 2).
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;From time to time all controls are vanishing (in live mode). The users 
&lt;br&gt;are frustrated, because the only way to restore is a restart of the office.
&lt;br&gt;The controls are anchored at paragraph.
&lt;br&gt;The behavior is not reproducable, so I didn't submit an issue.
&lt;br&gt;Next time I will take a look at the desktop theme, never got attention 
&lt;br&gt;to that.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Hoping this problems I won't see when migrating to 3.x.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Regards
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Peter
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	<title>Re: Re: Error message &quot;No content provider available for URL!&quot;</title>
	<published>2009-12-01T23:48:03Z</published>
	<updated>2009-12-01T23:48:03Z</updated>
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		<name>Frank Schoenheit, Sun Microsystems Germany</name>
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	<content type="html">&amp;gt; replace
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; DBaseName = &amp;quot;jdbc:hsqldb:file:\C:RahStuff\Base_Stuff\Cleve_CBC.odb&amp;quot;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; with
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; DBaseName = ConvertURL( &amp;quot;C:RahStuff\Base_Stuff\Cleve_CBC.odb&amp;quot; )
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;better
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; DBaseName = ConvertURL( &amp;quot;C:\RahStuff\Base_Stuff\Cleve_CBC.odb&amp;quot; )
&lt;br&gt;, of course.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Ciao
&lt;br&gt;Frank
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	<title>Re: Re: Error message &quot;No content provider available for URL!&quot;</title>
	<published>2009-12-01T23:38:22Z</published>
	<updated>2009-12-01T23:38:22Z</updated>
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		<name>Frank Schoenheit, Sun Microsystems Germany</name>
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	<content type="html">Hi Dick,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; DBaseName = &amp;quot;jdbc:hsqldb:file:\C:RahStuff\Base_Stuff\Cleve_CBC.odb&amp;quot;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; DatabaseContext = createUnoService(&amp;quot;com.sun.star.sdb.DatabaseContext&amp;quot;)
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; DataSource = DatabaseContext.getByName(DBaseName)
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;replace
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; DBaseName = &amp;quot;jdbc:hsqldb:file:\C:RahStuff\Base_Stuff\Cleve_CBC.odb&amp;quot;
&lt;br&gt;with
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; DBaseName = ConvertURL( &amp;quot;C:RahStuff\Base_Stuff\Cleve_CBC.odb&amp;quot; )
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The &amp;quot;jdbc:*&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;sdbc:*&amp;quot; URLs are for usage with the DriverManager,
&lt;br&gt;they describe a &amp;quot;connection resource&amp;quot;. Your code, however, passes it to
&lt;br&gt;the DatabaseContext, whose getByName expects either the registration
&lt;br&gt;name of a data source, or a URL to an .odb file. Those latter URLs have
&lt;br&gt;nothing to do with the sdbc/jdbc URLs to be used with the DriverManager.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Ciao
&lt;br&gt;Frank
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	<title>RE: Logo files updated - please review...</title>
	<published>2009-12-01T23:11:47Z</published>
	<updated>2009-12-01T23:11:47Z</updated>
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		<name>Raz Cumbe</name>
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	<content type="html">&lt;br&gt;Hello Bernhard,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; What I noticed during the revision:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; One file (not provided by you, but uploaded earlier) seems to be corrupted:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://marketing.openoffice.org/art/galleries/logos/version3/grey/ooo-3-logo-grey-cmyk.eps&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://marketing.openoffice.org/art/galleries/logos/version3/grey/ooo-3-logo-grey-cmyk.eps&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Do you see a chance to update it?
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;All Done!
&lt;br&gt;-Raz
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	<title>Re: Re: Error message &quot;No content provider available for URL!&quot;</title>
	<published>2009-12-01T22:26:34Z</published>
	<updated>2009-12-01T22:26:34Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Ocke Janssen</name>
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	<content type="html">Hi Dick,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;On 02.12.09 00:01, Dick Hoffman wrote:
&lt;div class='shrinkable-quote'&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Frank Schoenheit, Sun Microsystems Germany wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Hi Dick,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; I've established a database with two tables that appears to be working
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; very well. I'm trying to write a Basic macro that issues a query and
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; generates some statistics from the results. I'm getting a runtime error
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; that says &amp;quot;No content provider available for URL!&amp;quot; Any idea what I'm
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; doing wrong?
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; This sounds as if you're trying to establish a connection to some
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; file-based database, i.e. your connection URL starts with something like
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; sdbc:dbase: or sdbc:flat:, and the URL after that prefix is wrong.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Ciao
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Frank
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Here are the statements in question. The database was created using 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; OOo Base and does exist as &amp;quot;C:\RahStuff\Base_Stuff\Cleve_CBC.odb&amp;quot;.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Dim DatabaseContext
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Dim DataSource
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Dim Connection
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Dim Statement
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Dim ResultSet
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Dim sSQL as String
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Dim DBaseName as String
&lt;/div&gt;This line
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; DBaseName = &amp;quot;jdbc:hsqldb:file:\C:RahStuff\Base_Stuff\Cleve_CBC.odb&amp;quot;
&lt;br&gt;should be
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;DBaseName = &amp;quot;file:///C:/RahStuff/Base_Stuff/Cleve_CBC.odb&amp;quot;
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Best regards,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Ocke
&lt;div class='shrinkable-quote'&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; DatabaseContext = createUnoService(&amp;quot;com.sun.star.sdb.DatabaseContext&amp;quot;)
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; DataSource = DatabaseContext.getByName(DBaseName)
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Connection = DataSource.GetConnection(&amp;quot;&amp;quot;,&amp;quot;&amp;quot;)
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Statement = Connection.createStatement()
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; ' &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;Following query gets all data records in ascending date 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; within CBC species number order
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; sSQL = &amp;quot;SELECT &amp;quot; &amp; &amp;quot;ABA_NAMES.COMMON_NAME, CBC_DATA_RECS.COUNT_YR, 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; CBC_DATA_RECS.SPECIES_COUNT&amp;quot; &amp;_
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;quot; FROM CBC_DATA_RECS AS CBC_DATA_RECS, ABA_NAMES AS ABA_NAMES&amp;quot; &amp;_
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;quot; WHERE CBC_DATA_RECS.SPEC_NO = ABA_NAMES.CBC_S_NUM&amp;quot; &amp; &amp;quot; ORDER BY 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; CBC_DATA_RECS.SPEC_NO ASC, CBC_DATA_RECS.COUNT_YR ASC&amp;quot;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; ResultSet = Statement.executeQuery(sSQL)
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; The error occurs on the &amp;quot;DataSource&amp;quot; statement. The full error msg says:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; BASIC runtime error
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; An exception occurred
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Type: com.sun.star.lang.WrappedTargetException
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Message: jdbc:hsqldb:file:\C:RahStuff\Base_Stuff\Cleve_CBC.odb
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; TargetException:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp;Type: com.sun.star.ucb.ContentCreationException
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp;Message: No Content Provider available for given URL!
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Dick
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26601555</id>
	<title>Online Help for Image Maps</title>
	<published>2009-12-01T16:22:07Z</published>
	<updated>2009-12-01T16:22:07Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Jean Hollis Weber-3</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">I'm not sure if the online_help list is still in use, as no one has 
&lt;br&gt;posted to it since March 2008. So I'm posting here as well as there.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I've been trying to work out some details about image maps. The 
&lt;br&gt;ImageMap Editor does not have a Help button, so I used the Help index 
&lt;br&gt;to try to find more info. Later I stumbled on one Help page by 
&lt;br&gt;accident, by clicking on the Properties button on the ImageMap Editor 
&lt;br&gt;and then on the Help button which I found there. I was unable to reach 
&lt;br&gt;this Help page from any of the other Help pages about ImageMap or the 
&lt;br&gt;ImageMap Editor (even the one that mentions the Properties button and 
&lt;br&gt;what it does).
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Is this on the list of indexing improvements to be made?
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;--Jean
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26601418</id>
	<title>Re: Wikidoc: {{DISPLAYTITLE:{{SUBPAGENAME}}}} works fine</title>
	<published>2009-12-01T16:05:55Z</published>
	<updated>2009-12-01T16:05:55Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Jean Hollis Weber-3</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Nino Novak wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Means that it can be transcluded from a Template and the transcluding 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; page will show its (path stripped) Subpagename as Page Title. 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; So it is not necessary to put the explicit displaytitle in every single 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; page (if it's been done only for stripping a Page's &amp;quot;path&amp;quot;). 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Nino
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; (is there anybody interested in my findings at all?)
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I am very interested in learning anything I can about how to do the 
&lt;br&gt;user guides better on the wiki. When I need to edit a page for some 
&lt;br&gt;other reason, I try to clean up the coding for links and other things, 
&lt;br&gt;and I want to do more transclusion of topics used in several places.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I would like to do some things like conditional transclusions, and 
&lt;br&gt;transcluding only parts of a page (if those things are possible), but 
&lt;br&gt;I am concerned that some pages might gets a bit complicated and then 
&lt;br&gt;are a problem for other people to maintain without breaking them.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I won't personally have time to do much of anything until next month 
&lt;br&gt;(next year!!), but I'm collecting information to study then. At that 
&lt;br&gt;time I will also be able to get back to your ideas on the task list 
&lt;br&gt;for OOoAuthors.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;--Jean
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26600635</id>
	<title>Re: Error message &quot;No content provider available for URL!&quot;</title>
	<published>2009-12-01T15:01:08Z</published>
	<updated>2009-12-01T15:01:08Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Dick Hoffman</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Frank Schoenheit, Sun Microsystems Germany wrote:
&lt;div class='shrinkable-quote'&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Hi Dick,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; I've established a database with two tables that appears to be working
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; very well. I'm trying to write a Basic macro that issues a query and
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; generates some statistics from the results. I'm getting a runtime error
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; that says &amp;quot;No content provider available for URL!&amp;quot; Any idea what I'm
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; doing wrong?
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; This sounds as if you're trying to establish a connection to some
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; file-based database, i.e. your connection URL starts with something like
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; sdbc:dbase: or sdbc:flat:, and the URL after that prefix is wrong.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Ciao
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Frank
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;/div&gt;Here are the statements in question. The database was created using OOo 
&lt;br&gt;Base and does exist as &amp;quot;C:\RahStuff\Base_Stuff\Cleve_CBC.odb&amp;quot;.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Dim DatabaseContext
&lt;br&gt;Dim DataSource
&lt;br&gt;Dim Connection
&lt;br&gt;Dim Statement
&lt;br&gt;Dim ResultSet
&lt;br&gt;Dim sSQL as String
&lt;br&gt;Dim DBaseName as String
&lt;br&gt;DBaseName = &amp;quot;jdbc:hsqldb:file:\C:RahStuff\Base_Stuff\Cleve_CBC.odb&amp;quot;
&lt;br&gt;DatabaseContext = createUnoService(&amp;quot;com.sun.star.sdb.DatabaseContext&amp;quot;)
&lt;br&gt;DataSource = DatabaseContext.getByName(DBaseName)
&lt;br&gt;Connection = DataSource.GetConnection(&amp;quot;&amp;quot;,&amp;quot;&amp;quot;)
&lt;br&gt;Statement = Connection.createStatement()
&lt;br&gt;' &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;Following query gets all data records in ascending date within 
&lt;br&gt;CBC species number order
&lt;br&gt;sSQL = &amp;quot;SELECT &amp;quot; &amp; &amp;quot;ABA_NAMES.COMMON_NAME, CBC_DATA_RECS.COUNT_YR, 
&lt;br&gt;CBC_DATA_RECS.SPECIES_COUNT&amp;quot; &amp;_
&lt;br&gt;&amp;quot; FROM CBC_DATA_RECS AS CBC_DATA_RECS, ABA_NAMES AS ABA_NAMES&amp;quot; &amp;_
&lt;br&gt;&amp;quot; WHERE CBC_DATA_RECS.SPEC_NO = ABA_NAMES.CBC_S_NUM&amp;quot; &amp; &amp;quot; ORDER BY 
&lt;br&gt;CBC_DATA_RECS.SPEC_NO ASC, CBC_DATA_RECS.COUNT_YR ASC&amp;quot;
&lt;br&gt;ResultSet = Statement.executeQuery(sSQL)
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The error occurs on the &amp;quot;DataSource&amp;quot; statement. The full error msg says:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;BASIC runtime error
&lt;br&gt;An exception occurred
&lt;br&gt;Type: com.sun.star.lang.WrappedTargetException
&lt;br&gt;Message: jdbc:hsqldb:file:\C:RahStuff\Base_Stuff\Cleve_CBC.odb
&lt;br&gt;TargetException:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; Type: com.sun.star.ucb.ContentCreationException
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; Message: No Content Provider available for given URL!
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Dick
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26600596</id>
	<title>Wikidoc: {{DISPLAYTITLE:{{SUBPAGENAME}}}} works fine</title>
	<published>2009-12-01T14:57:33Z</published>
	<updated>2009-12-01T14:57:33Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Nino Novak-2</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Means that it can be transcluded from a Template and the transcluding 
&lt;br&gt;page will show its (path stripped) Subpagename as Page Title. 
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;So it is not necessary to put the explicit displaytitle in every single 
&lt;br&gt;page (if it's been done only for stripping a Page's &amp;quot;path&amp;quot;). 
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Nino
&lt;br&gt;(is there anybody interested in my findings at all?)
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26600499</id>
	<title>Re: Error message &quot;No content provider available for   URL!&quot;</title>
	<published>2009-12-01T14:51:13Z</published>
	<updated>2009-12-01T14:51:13Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Dick Hoffman</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Drew Jensen wrote:
&lt;div class='shrinkable-quote'&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Dick Hoffman wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; I've established a database with two tables that appears to be working
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; very well. I'm trying to write a Basic macro that issues a query and
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; generates some statistics from the results. I'm getting a runtime
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; error that says &amp;quot;No content provider available for URL!&amp;quot; Any idea what
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; I'm doing wrong?
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Dick
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Hello Dick,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp;From a 'wild guess' stand point - I would look at your SQL statement
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; for procedures, functions, control statements perhaps, that the OOo
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; parser does not recognize. I would also check that Escape Processing is
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; turned off when you try to execute the statement.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Anyway - that is a first type of thing to look at.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Let us know how it goes - ok?
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Drew
&lt;/div&gt;Please see my reply to Frank where I've included the statements I'm 
&lt;br&gt;using. I've looked at them until I'm cross eyed and can't see what's wrong.
&lt;br&gt;Dick
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26599849</id>
	<title>Create hash string</title>
	<published>2009-12-01T14:04:56Z</published>
	<updated>2009-12-01T14:04:56Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Sergio Corato</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Hi all.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I have an .oxt in OOoBasic/Python where I create a hash string (in 
&lt;br&gt;Python) with a text and a password passed from OOoBasic.
&lt;br&gt;The problem is that the password is passed simply readable to Python.
&lt;br&gt;For the moment I encrypted the library in OOoBasic, even if it's not 
&lt;br&gt;sufficient, but is there a solution?
&lt;br&gt;Or is there a function to create an hash string directly from OOoBasic?
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Thanks
&lt;br&gt;Sergio
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26599542</id>
	<title>Re: [OOoCon] Re: [dev] OpenOffice.org@FOSDEM 2010</title>
	<published>2009-12-01T13:41:01Z</published>
	<updated>2009-12-01T13:41:01Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>luispo</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Thanks, Leo!
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;On 2009-12-01, at 15:21 , Leo Moons wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Hello everybody,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; For those attending Fosdem: WELCOME to Belgium. :-) :-)
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; I will be glad to man the stand and of course we can have one (or more) beer(s) together at the Beer evening organised by Fosdem.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Ah, that sounds wonderful. I should also mention that we involved in ODF development and advocacy are also trying to have a presence and active working group at Fosdem, and I'm sure the participants of that group would be happy to congregate with us--especially as several of those share identity. I have no good idea how many distinct units (people) we are talking about, though.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; I will look for a nice restaurant for those who are hungry on Saturday eve so we can socialise and enjoy good food at the same time.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Thanks!
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; We will keep in touch
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Cheers,
&lt;br&gt;Lpuis
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;div class='shrinkable-quote'&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; -- 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Leo Moons 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; nl.OpenOffice.org
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; OooAuthors
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; OOo4Kids
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Nous sommes condamnés à être libres 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Juergen Schmidt schreef:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Hi,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; a short update about the current status.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; We created a new mailing list &lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26599542&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;fosdem@...&lt;/a&gt; for
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; detailed FOSDEM planning. For all of you who are interested on
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; OOo@FOSDEM and who want to help please feel free to subscribe to this
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; list (&lt;a href=&quot;http://marketing.openoffice.org/servlets/ProjectMailingListList&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://marketing.openoffice.org/servlets/ProjectMailingListList&lt;/a&gt;)
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; This list will be used for future planning as well. No extra fosdem2010
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; or fosdem2011 lists etc.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Status:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; - DevRoom
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; OOo is accepted and we have a DevRoom for 1 day, on Saturday 6th
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; February from 12:00 to 19:00
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; I will send out a &amp;quot;Call for Papers&amp;quot; asap. I would suggest 45, 90 or 120
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; minutes per session. The experience in the past have shown that 45
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; minute session were accepted best. But for a workshop it's probably
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; better to plan a little bit longer.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; I hope we can sponsor speakers next year again. Maybe not complete but i
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; can guarantee a lot of fun with nice and also crazy open source people ;-)
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; - Stand
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; no update so far but i expect feedback this week.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Regards
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Juergen
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Juergen Schmidt wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Hi,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; i just want o inform you that i have requested an OpenOffice.org stand and again an OpenOffice.org Developer Room for the next FOSDEM, February 2010 in Brussels.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; This is a pre announcement only because we are not finally accepted. The &amp;nbsp;final decision is expected at the end of November.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; But for both we will need help and the time is short as always.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Stand
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; - we need people to help at the stand to answer questions, promote and demo our product, to build community and relationship to other projects ;-)
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; - we need people for the organization (coffee, demo workplace, demos, ...)
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; - merchandising materials (shirts, stickers, ...) -&amp;gt; tbd
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Developer Room
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; - we need interesting talks, workshops etc.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; - call for papers is coming soon
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; As soon as i have more details i will come back to keep you informed. But here and today i would like to encourage you to think about the FOSDEM and how you can potentially help to make it a success. Think about an interesting development oriented talk or workshop, think about sponsoring ;-), think about participating and help at the stand etc.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Follow up discussion please on the &lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26599542&amp;i=1&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;conference@...&lt;/a&gt; mailing list and later maybe on a dedicated FOSDEM list (that doesn't yet exist)
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Regards
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Juergen 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
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	<title>Re: Re: [dev] OpenOffice.org@FOSDEM 2010</title>
	<published>2009-12-01T13:41:01Z</published>
	<updated>2009-12-01T13:41:01Z</updated>
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		<name>luispo</name>
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	<content type="html">Thanks, Leo!
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;On 2009-12-01, at 15:21 , Leo Moons wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Hello everybody,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; For those attending Fosdem: WELCOME to Belgium. :-) :-)
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; I will be glad to man the stand and of course we can have one (or more) beer(s) together at the Beer evening organised by Fosdem.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Ah, that sounds wonderful. I should also mention that we involved in ODF development and advocacy are also trying to have a presence and active working group at Fosdem, and I'm sure the participants of that group would be happy to congregate with us--especially as several of those share identity. I have no good idea how many distinct units (people) we are talking about, though.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; I will look for a nice restaurant for those who are hungry on Saturday eve so we can socialise and enjoy good food at the same time.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Thanks!
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; We will keep in touch
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Cheers,
&lt;br&gt;Lpuis
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;div class='shrinkable-quote'&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; -- 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Leo Moons 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; nl.OpenOffice.org
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; OooAuthors
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; OOo4Kids
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Nous sommes condamnés à être libres 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Juergen Schmidt schreef:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Hi,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; a short update about the current status.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; We created a new mailing list &lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26599541&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;fosdem@...&lt;/a&gt; for
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; detailed FOSDEM planning. For all of you who are interested on
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; OOo@FOSDEM and who want to help please feel free to subscribe to this
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; list (&lt;a href=&quot;http://marketing.openoffice.org/servlets/ProjectMailingListList&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://marketing.openoffice.org/servlets/ProjectMailingListList&lt;/a&gt;)
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; This list will be used for future planning as well. No extra fosdem2010
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; or fosdem2011 lists etc.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Status:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; - DevRoom
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; OOo is accepted and we have a DevRoom for 1 day, on Saturday 6th
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; February from 12:00 to 19:00
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; I will send out a &amp;quot;Call for Papers&amp;quot; asap. I would suggest 45, 90 or 120
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; minutes per session. The experience in the past have shown that 45
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; minute session were accepted best. But for a workshop it's probably
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; better to plan a little bit longer.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; I hope we can sponsor speakers next year again. Maybe not complete but i
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; can guarantee a lot of fun with nice and also crazy open source people ;-)
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; - Stand
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; no update so far but i expect feedback this week.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Regards
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Juergen
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Juergen Schmidt wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Hi,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; i just want o inform you that i have requested an OpenOffice.org stand and again an OpenOffice.org Developer Room for the next FOSDEM, February 2010 in Brussels.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; This is a pre announcement only because we are not finally accepted. The &amp;nbsp;final decision is expected at the end of November.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; But for both we will need help and the time is short as always.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Stand
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; - we need people to help at the stand to answer questions, promote and demo our product, to build community and relationship to other projects ;-)
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; - we need people for the organization (coffee, demo workplace, demos, ...)
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; - merchandising materials (shirts, stickers, ...) -&amp;gt; tbd
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Developer Room
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; - we need interesting talks, workshops etc.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; - call for papers is coming soon
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; As soon as i have more details i will come back to keep you informed. But here and today i would like to encourage you to think about the FOSDEM and how you can potentially help to make it a success. Think about an interesting development oriented talk or workshop, think about sponsoring ;-), think about participating and help at the stand etc.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Follow up discussion please on the &lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26599541&amp;i=1&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;conference@...&lt;/a&gt; mailing list and later maybe on a dedicated FOSDEM list (that doesn't yet exist)
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Regards
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Juergen 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
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