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by Taylor, Barry
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I'm working with a tetra who is an intensive computer user. Looks like he's pretty good on integramouse plus VR. I've not had much recent experience with this level of computer user so: 1. What are people using for environmental control by PC. Is Grid as good as anything? 2. Is there something that keeps a phone book on pc & does the dialling. All I can find is auto diallers aimed at the annoying telesales firms. Barry Barry Taylor, Clinical Scientist Medical Physics Service Tulley Medical Physics Building, Hull Royal Infirmary Anlaby Road, Hull HU3 2JZ ****Please note new phone numbers from May 2009: Tel: 01482 608971, Fax: 01482 608951 Internal extension HRI 608971 barry.taylor@... rehabilitation.engineering@... |
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Re: pc user
by Jeremy Linskell
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Hi Barry
Gewa ProgIII would seems a reasonable solution if you can source one. You can use Grid to activate individual Prog functions via the send IR utility. You could use grid to create a phone book and store the numbers as macros on the Prog. If he is such a high level user, he could probably manage the phone book himself and even create the macros using the gewa windows utility. Not sure how this approach would work with a Control Prog though. You certainly can't create macros using the Gewacontroltool and I don't even now if sendIR will work. We have also had some limited success with the Tira (http://www.home-electro.com ), which we purchased from Smartbox, but it seems to have problems learning multiple Gewa link codes. Cheers jeremy Jeremy Linskell CEng, CSci, MIPEM Principal Clinical Scientist Electronic Assistive Technology Service Ninewells Hospital NHS Tayside tel: 01382-496286 fax:01382-496322 Editorial Board Member of Journal of Assistive Technologies http://pierprofessional.metapress.com/content/121393 -----Original Message----- From: A discussion list for Assistive Technology professionals. [mailto:ASSISTECH@...] On Behalf Of Taylor, Barry Sent: 23 September 2009 11:14 To: ASSISTECH@... Subject: pc user Dear all I'm working with a tetra who is an intensive computer user. Looks like he's pretty good on integramouse plus VR. I've not had much recent experience with this level of computer user so: 1. What are people using for environmental control by PC. Is Grid as good as anything? 2. Is there something that keeps a phone book on pc & does the dialling. All I can find is auto diallers aimed at the annoying telesales firms. Barry Barry Taylor, Clinical Scientist Medical Physics Service Tulley Medical Physics Building, Hull Royal Infirmary Anlaby Road, Hull HU3 2JZ ****Please note new phone numbers from May 2009: Tel: 01482 608971, Fax: 01482 608951 Internal extension HRI 608971 barry.taylor@... rehabilitation.engineering@... ******************************************************************************************************************** This message may contain confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient please inform the sender that you have received the message in error before deleting it. Please do not disclose, copy or distribute information in this e-mail or take any action in reliance on its contents: to do so is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. Thank you for your co-operation. NHSmail is the secure email and directory service available for all NHS staff in England and Scotland NHSmail is approved for exchanging patient data and other sensitive information with NHSmail and GSI recipients NHSmail provides an email address for your career in the NHS and can be accessed anywhere For more information and to find out how you can switch, visit www.connectingforhealth.nhs.uk/nhsmail ******************************************************************************************************************** [Linskell, Jeremy.vcf] BEGIN:VCARD VERSION:2.1 N:Linskell;Jeremy FN:Linskell, Jeremy ORG:NHS Tayside TITLE:Principal Clinical Scientist TEL;WORK;VOICE:01382-496286 ADR;WORK;ENCODING=QUOTED-PRINTABLE:;;EAT Service=0D=0ATORT Centre=0D=0ANinewells Hospital;Dundee;;DD1 9SY;Unite= d Kingdom LABEL;WORK;ENCODING=QUOTED-PRINTABLE:EAT Service=0D=0ATORT Centre=0D=0ANinewells Hospital=0D=0ADundee DD1 9SY=0D= =0AUnited Kingdom EMAIL;PREF;INTERNET:jeremy.linskell@... REV:20090203T142137Z END:VCARD |
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Re: pc user
by Paul Hawes-2
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Interest declared
The Grid 2 works with Prog III and Control Prog. Multiple codes are best handled by programming a cell to send a series of codes in separate commands. Paul HAwes On 23 Sep 2009 at 11:40, Jeremy Linskell wrote: > Hi Barry > > Gewa ProgIII would seems a reasonable solution if you can source one. You > can use Grid to activate individual Prog functions via the send IR utility. > You could use grid to create a phone book and store the numbers as macros on > the Prog. If he is such a high level user, he could probably manage the > phone book himself and even create the macros using the gewa windows > utility. > > Not sure how this approach would work with a Control Prog though. You > certainly can't create macros using the Gewacontroltool and I don't even now > if sendIR will work. > > We have also had some limited success with the Tira > (http://www.home-electro.com ), which we purchased from Smartbox, but it > seems to have problems learning multiple Gewa link codes. > > Cheers > > jeremy > > Jeremy Linskell CEng, CSci, MIPEM > Principal Clinical Scientist > Electronic Assistive Technology Service > Ninewells Hospital > NHS Tayside > tel: 01382-496286 > fax:01382-496322 > > Editorial Board Member of Journal of Assistive Technologies > http://pierprofessional.metapress.com/content/121393 > -----Original Message----- > From: A discussion list for Assistive Technology professionals. > [mailto:ASSISTECH@...] On Behalf Of Taylor, Barry > Sent: 23 September 2009 11:14 > To: ASSISTECH@... > Subject: pc user > > Dear all > I'm working with a tetra who is an intensive computer user. Looks like > he's pretty good on integramouse plus VR. I've not had much recent > experience with this level of computer user so: > 1. What are people using for environmental control by PC. Is Grid as > good as anything? > 2. Is there something that keeps a phone book on pc & does the dialling. > All I can find is auto diallers aimed at the annoying telesales firms. > > Barry > > Barry Taylor, Clinical Scientist > Medical Physics Service > Tulley Medical Physics Building, Hull Royal Infirmary > Anlaby Road, Hull HU3 2JZ > > ****Please note new phone numbers from May 2009: > Tel: 01482 608971, Fax: 01482 608951 > Internal extension HRI 608971 > barry.taylor@... > rehabilitation.engineering@... > > > ******************************************************************************************************************** > > This message may contain confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient please inform the > sender that you have received the message in error before deleting it. > Please do not disclose, copy or distribute information in this e-mail or take any action in reliance on its contents: > to do so is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. > > Thank you for your co-operation. > > NHSmail is the secure email and directory service available for all NHS staff in England and Scotland > NHSmail is approved for exchanging patient data and other sensitive information with NHSmail and GSI recipients > NHSmail provides an email address for your career in the NHS and can be accessed anywhere > For more information and to find out how you can switch, visit www.connectingforhealth.nhs.uk/nhsmail > > ******************************************************************************************************************** > forums@... |
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Re: pc user
by Paul Hawes-2
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I note that the TIRA is no longer listed on the Girder web site, and they seem to be
recommending UIRT. I also note a number of complaints about TIRA andGirder in a home automation forum. I would therefore suggest the UIRT for use with Girder. The TIRA is fine with Grid 2. Paul Hawes On 23 Sep 2009 at 16:00, Peter Hamlin wrote: > I would be wary of using the Tira ... Home-Electro (http://www.home- > electro.com) as the manufacturers of this product do not seem to be > maintaining the Tira ... > I have sought support from them over the past 3 > weeks and Home-Electro have not replied to a single message other than the > first email that I sent to advise them that their web-site required attention. > > In addition, Home-Electro have not released an updated driver for use with > Girder 5 (http://www.promixis.com/girder.php). Girder 5 has been available for > just over a year now. > > I may yet be sending the Tira back ... > > The issue was raised with Sensory Software / SmartBoxAT at the end of > last week. > Sensory Software / SmartBoxAT said that they would check the situation > and reply in due course. > > My advice is to go with the USB-UIRT (http://www.usbuirt.com/) instead - > this IR transceiver can also be used with The Grid and is also obtainable from > Sensory Software / SmartBoxAT. > > > Peter Hamlin [Tel: 0 (044) 1895 279162 Fax: 0 (044) 1895 279737] > Rehabilitation Engineer > North Thames Regional Environmental Control Equipment Service (NT RECES) > Alderbourne Rehabilitation Unit (Entrance 'C' - off Royal Lane) > Hillingdon Hospital NHS Trust > Pield Heath Road > Uxbridge > Middlesex > > UB8 3NN > > UNITED KINGDOM forums@... |
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Re: pc user
by will wade
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Hi Barry
Well I'm currently in the process of writing a rather lengthy document on EC and how to control it using some low-cost alternatives.. As such my focus is not so much on the GEWA world but on Tira/USBUIRT. Its an interesting bit of kit - about £30 (http://usbuirt.com) and can be controlled in the Grid and Tobii Communicator. The app that could be of real interest to you though is IRCommand from WDPS. Its relatively cheap and you can make full-screen grids (or controllers) (use with SAW for switch access). It can get really clever though with the UIRT - the UIRT can send & receive with the codes being stored on the machine (the API is fairly open) and you can do things like trigger commands with keyboard triggers and trigger on IR commands (e.g. a IR code is received and then you can set IRCommand to send out three IR commands afterwards). WDPS is available at : http://www.wdpsoftware.com/IRC2/tn_irc2features.htm have a play :) w 2009/9/23 Taylor, Barry <Barry.Taylor@...>: > Dear all > I'm working with a tetra who is an intensive computer user. Looks like > he's pretty good on integramouse plus VR. I've not had much recent > experience with this level of computer user so: > 1. What are people using for environmental control by PC. Is Grid as > good as anything? > 2. Is there something that keeps a phone book on pc & does the dialling. > All I can find is auto diallers aimed at the annoying telesales firms. > > Barry > > Barry Taylor, Clinical Scientist > Medical Physics Service > Tulley Medical Physics Building, Hull Royal Infirmary > Anlaby Road, Hull HU3 2JZ > > ****Please note new phone numbers from May 2009: > Tel: 01482 608971, Fax: 01482 608951 > Internal extension HRI 608971 > barry.taylor@... > rehabilitation.engineering@... > |
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Re: pc user
by Jeremy Linskell
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Hi All I am sure that Paul's advice regarding phone numbers; that is, to nest commands within cells is best from a Grid perspective, but that would preclude the opportunity to use the Prog to dial in standalone mode (or via w/c joystick if he's so independent)? Cheers Jeremy Editorial Board Member of Journal of Assistive Technologies http://pierprofessional.metapress.com/content/121393 -----Original Message----- From: A discussion list for Assistive Technology professionals. [mailto:ASSISTECH@...] On Behalf Of Paul Hawes Sent: 24 September 2009 12:05 To: ASSISTECH@... Subject: Re: pc user Interest declared The Grid 2 works with Prog III and Control Prog. Multiple codes are best handled by programming a cell to send a series of codes in separate commands. Paul HAwes On 23 Sep 2009 at 11:40, Jeremy Linskell wrote: > Hi Barry > > Gewa ProgIII would seems a reasonable solution if you can source one. You > can use Grid to activate individual Prog functions via the send IR utility. > You could use grid to create a phone book and store the numbers as macros on > the Prog. If he is such a high level user, he could probably manage the > phone book himself and even create the macros using the gewa windows > utility. > > Not sure how this approach would work with a Control Prog though. You > certainly can't create macros using the Gewacontroltool and I don't even now > if sendIR will work. > > We have also had some limited success with the Tira > (http://www.home-electro.com ), which we purchased from Smartbox, but it > seems to have problems learning multiple Gewa link codes. > > Cheers > > jeremy > > Jeremy Linskell CEng, CSci, MIPEM > Principal Clinical Scientist > Electronic Assistive Technology Service > Ninewells Hospital > NHS Tayside > tel: 01382-496286 > fax:01382-496322 > > Editorial Board Member of Journal of Assistive Technologies > http://pierprofessional.metapress.com/content/121393 > -----Original Message----- > From: A discussion list for Assistive Technology professionals. > [mailto:ASSISTECH@...] On Behalf Of Taylor, Barry > Sent: 23 September 2009 11:14 > To: ASSISTECH@... > Subject: pc user > > Dear all > I'm working with a tetra who is an intensive computer user. Looks like > he's pretty good on integramouse plus VR. I've not had much recent > experience with this level of computer user so: > 1. What are people using for environmental control by PC. Is Grid as > good as anything? > 2. Is there something that keeps a phone book on pc & does the dialling. > All I can find is auto diallers aimed at the annoying telesales firms. > > Barry > > Barry Taylor, Clinical Scientist > Medical Physics Service > Tulley Medical Physics Building, Hull Royal Infirmary > Anlaby Road, Hull HU3 2JZ > > ****Please note new phone numbers from May 2009: > Tel: 01482 608971, Fax: 01482 608951 > Internal extension HRI 608971 > barry.taylor@... > rehabilitation.engineering@... > > > > > This message may contain confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient please inform the > sender that you have received the message in error before deleting it. > Please do not disclose, copy or distribute information in this e-mail or take any action in reliance on its contents: > to do so is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. > > Thank you for your co-operation. > > NHSmail is the secure email and directory service available for all NHS staff in England and Scotland > NHSmail is approved for exchanging patient data and other sensitive information with NHSmail and GSI recipients > NHSmail provides an email address for your career in the NHS and can be accessed anywhere > For more information and to find out how you can switch, visit www.connectingforhealth.nhs.uk/nhsmail > > **************************************************************************** **************************************** > forums@... ******************************************************************************************************************** This message may contain confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient please inform the sender that you have received the message in error before deleting it. Please do not disclose, copy or distribute information in this e-mail or take any action in reliance on its contents: to do so is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. Thank you for your co-operation. NHSmail is the secure email and directory service available for all NHS staff in England and Scotland NHSmail is approved for exchanging patient data and other sensitive information with NHSmail and GSI recipients NHSmail provides an email address for your career in the NHS and can be accessed anywhere For more information and to find out how you can switch, visit www.connectingforhealth.nhs.uk/nhsmail ******************************************************************************************************************** [Linskell, Jeremy.vcf] BEGIN:VCARD VERSION:2.1 N:Linskell;Jeremy FN:Linskell, Jeremy ORG:NHS Tayside TITLE:Principal Clinical Scientist TEL;WORK;VOICE:01382-496286 ADR;WORK;ENCODING=QUOTED-PRINTABLE:;;EAT Service=0D=0ATORT Centre=0D=0ANinewells Hospital;Dundee;;DD1 9SY;Unite= d Kingdom LABEL;WORK;ENCODING=QUOTED-PRINTABLE:EAT Service=0D=0ATORT Centre=0D=0ANinewells Hospital=0D=0ADundee DD1 9SY=0D= =0AUnited Kingdom EMAIL;PREF;INTERNET:jeremy.linskell@... 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Re: pc user
by will wade
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There is no doubt about it - the GEWA (prog) is better in our tests.
With the right placement and correct learning of codes (its easy to learn a dirty code) a UIRT can be just as successful however. What does appear to be a bit of a stumbling block is (perhaps) the frequency. Some of the possum products seem incredibly hard to learn from non-gewa/possum products & I'm not sure why. w 2009/9/24 Taylor, Barry <Barry.Taylor@...>: > Interesting. Is there any intelligence on how good the IR dongles are at blasting high power IR to distant receivers out of line-of-sight, compared with the GEWA? > > Barry > > Barry Taylor, Clinical Scientist > Medical Physics Service > Tulley Medical Physics Building, Hull Royal Infirmary > Anlaby Road, Hull HU3 2JZ > > ****Please note new phone numbers from May 2009: > Tel: 01482 608971, Fax: 01482 608951 > Internal extension HRI 608971 > barry.taylor@... > rehabilitation.engineering@... > > > -----Original Message----- > From: A discussion list for Assistive Technology professionals. [mailto:ASSISTECH@...] On Behalf Of will wade > Sent: 24 September 2009 12:57 > To: ASSISTECH@... > Subject: Re: pc user > > Hi Barry > Well I'm currently in the process of writing a rather lengthy document > on EC and how to control it using some low-cost alternatives.. > As such my focus is not so much on the GEWA world but on Tira/USBUIRT. > Its an interesting bit of kit - about £30 (http://usbuirt.com) and can > be controlled in the Grid and Tobii Communicator. The app that could > be of real interest to you though is IRCommand from WDPS. Its > relatively cheap and you can make full-screen grids (or controllers) > (use with SAW for switch access). > It can get really clever though with the UIRT - the UIRT can send & > receive with the codes being stored on the machine (the API is fairly > open) and you can do things like trigger commands with keyboard > triggers and trigger on IR commands (e.g. a IR code is received and > then you can set IRCommand to send out three IR commands afterwards). > WDPS is available at : > http://www.wdpsoftware.com/IRC2/tn_irc2features.htm > > have a play :) > > w > > 2009/9/23 Taylor, Barry <Barry.Taylor@...>: >> Dear all >> I'm working with a tetra who is an intensive computer user. Looks like >> he's pretty good on integramouse plus VR. I've not had much recent >> experience with this level of computer user so: >> 1. What are people using for environmental control by PC. Is Grid as >> good as anything? >> 2. Is there something that keeps a phone book on pc & does the dialling. >> All I can find is auto diallers aimed at the annoying telesales firms. >> >> Barry >> >> Barry Taylor, Clinical Scientist >> Medical Physics Service >> Tulley Medical Physics Building, Hull Royal Infirmary >> Anlaby Road, Hull HU3 2JZ >> >> ****Please note new phone numbers from May 2009: >> Tel: 01482 608971, Fax: 01482 608951 >> Internal extension HRI 608971 >> barry.taylor@... >> rehabilitation.engineering@... >> > |
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Re: pc user
by Jeremy Linskell
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Yep!
-----Original Message----- From: A discussion list for Assistive Technology professionals. [mailto:ASSISTECH@...] On Behalf Of Taylor, Barry Sent: 24 September 2009 15:08 To: ASSISTECH@... Subject: Re: pc user Jeremy Couldn't you do both on different prog pages? Barry Barry Taylor, Clinical Scientist Medical Physics Service Tulley Medical Physics Building, Hull Royal Infirmary Anlaby Road, Hull HU3 2JZ ****Please note new phone numbers from May 2009: Tel: 01482 608971, Fax: 01482 608951 Internal extension HRI 608971 barry.taylor@... rehabilitation.engineering@... -----Original Message----- From: A discussion list for Assistive Technology professionals. [mailto:ASSISTECH@...] On Behalf Of Jeremy Linskell Sent: 24 September 2009 15:04 To: ASSISTECH@... Subject: Re: pc user Hi All I am sure that Paul's advice regarding phone numbers; that is, to nest commands within cells is best from a Grid perspective, but that would preclude the opportunity to use the Prog to dial in standalone mode (or via w/c joystick if he's so independent)? Cheers Jeremy Editorial Board Member of Journal of Assistive Technologies http://pierprofessional.metapress.com/content/121393 -----Original Message----- From: A discussion list for Assistive Technology professionals. [mailto:ASSISTECH@...] On Behalf Of Paul Hawes Sent: 24 September 2009 12:05 To: ASSISTECH@... Subject: Re: pc user Interest declared The Grid 2 works with Prog III and Control Prog. Multiple codes are best handled by programming a cell to send a series of codes in separate commands. Paul HAwes On 23 Sep 2009 at 11:40, Jeremy Linskell wrote: > Hi Barry > > Gewa ProgIII would seems a reasonable solution if you can source one. You > can use Grid to activate individual Prog functions via the send IR utility. > You could use grid to create a phone book and store the numbers as macros on > the Prog. If he is such a high level user, he could probably manage the > phone book himself and even create the macros using the gewa windows > utility. > > Not sure how this approach would work with a Control Prog though. You > certainly can't create macros using the Gewacontroltool and I don't even now > if sendIR will work. > > We have also had some limited success with the Tira > (http://www.home-electro.com ), which we purchased from Smartbox, but it > seems to have problems learning multiple Gewa link codes. > > Cheers > > jeremy > > Jeremy Linskell CEng, CSci, MIPEM > Principal Clinical Scientist > Electronic Assistive Technology Service > Ninewells Hospital > NHS Tayside > tel: 01382-496286 > fax:01382-496322 > > Editorial Board Member of Journal of Assistive Technologies > http://pierprofessional.metapress.com/content/121393 > -----Original Message----- > From: A discussion list for Assistive Technology professionals. > [mailto:ASSISTECH@...] On Behalf Of Taylor, Barry > Sent: 23 September 2009 11:14 > To: ASSISTECH@... > Subject: pc user > > Dear all > I'm working with a tetra who is an intensive computer user. Looks > he's pretty good on integramouse plus VR. I've not had much recent > experience with this level of computer user so: > 1. What are people using for environmental control by PC. Is Grid as > good as anything? > 2. Is there something that keeps a phone book on pc & does the > All I can find is auto diallers aimed at the annoying telesales firms. > > Barry > > Barry Taylor, Clinical Scientist > Medical Physics Service > Tulley Medical Physics Building, Hull Royal Infirmary > Anlaby Road, Hull HU3 2JZ > > ****Please note new phone numbers from May 2009: > Tel: 01482 608971, Fax: 01482 608951 > Internal extension HRI 608971 > barry.taylor@... > rehabilitation.engineering@... > > > **************************************** > > This message may contain confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient please inform the > sender that you have received the message in error before deleting it. > Please do not disclose, copy or distribute information in this e-mail or take any action in reliance on its contents: > to do so is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. > > Thank you for your co-operation. > > NHSmail is the secure email and directory service available for all NHS staff in England and Scotland > NHSmail is approved for exchanging patient data and other sensitive information with NHSmail and GSI recipients > NHSmail provides an email address for your career in the NHS and can be accessed anywhere > For more information and to find out how you can switch, visit www.connectingforhealth.nhs.uk/nhsmail > > ************************************************************************ **** **************************************** > forums@... ************************************************************************ ******************************************** This message may contain confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient please inform the sender that you have received the message in error before deleting it. Please do not disclose, copy or distribute information in this e-mail or take any action in reliance on its contents: to do so is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. Thank you for your co-operation. NHSmail is the secure email and directory service available for all NHS staff in England and Scotland NHSmail is approved for exchanging patient data and other sensitive information with NHSmail and GSI recipients NHSmail provides an email address for your career in the NHS and can be accessed anywhere For more information and to find out how you can switch, visit www.connectingforhealth.nhs.uk/nhsmail ************************************************************************ ******************************************** ******************************************************************************************************************** This message may contain confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient please inform the sender that you have received the message in error before deleting it. Please do not disclose, copy or distribute information in this e-mail or take any action in reliance on its contents: to do so is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. Thank you for your co-operation. NHSmail is the secure email and directory service available for all NHS staff in England and Scotland NHSmail is approved for exchanging patient data and other sensitive information with NHSmail and GSI recipients NHSmail provides an email address for your career in the NHS and can be accessed anywhere For more information and to find out how you can switch, visit www.connectingforhealth.nhs.uk/nhsmail ******************************************************************************************************************** [Linskell, Jeremy.vcf] BEGIN:VCARD VERSION:2.1 N:Linskell;Jeremy FN:Linskell, Jeremy ORG:NHS Tayside TITLE:Principal Clinical Scientist TEL;WORK;VOICE:01382-496286 ADR;WORK;ENCODING=QUOTED-PRINTABLE:;;EAT Service=0D=0ATORT Centre=0D=0ANinewells Hospital;Dundee;;DD1 9SY;Unite= d Kingdom LABEL;WORK;ENCODING=QUOTED-PRINTABLE:EAT Service=0D=0ATORT Centre=0D=0ANinewells Hospital=0D=0ADundee DD1 9SY=0D= =0AUnited Kingdom EMAIL;PREF;INTERNET:jeremy.linskell@... 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Re: pc user
by Tony Swann
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Intersting discussion re PC based EC control.
My initial assessment of the Tira and Gewa control star led me to adopt the Gewa control star as my preferred IR transmiiter. The Tira appear to be less reliable which I put down to poor transmissions of IR signals. The Gewa Prog 3 obviously is less of a concenr because of the batteries in it but it is a bit bulky and more expensive. I like the grid for developing pages of IR commands. It pretty straight forward. Up to this point we typically would be only taking a PC approach to EC when there were also AAC requirements, however...... bespoke PC (probably tablets or palm tops) EC controllers is some thing I have been musing about for a while. Legistically it is more intersting where NHS EAT services are providing direct support to clients. It would be intersting to hear the views of the EC contractors however. The cost of the base PC device is also coming down which make it more realistic. The pace of development of commercialy available kit gives me concerns reagrds long term support. Tony Swann -----Original Message----- From: A discussion list for Assistive Technology professionals. [mailto:ASSISTECH@...] On Behalf Of Jeremy Linskell Sent: 24 September 2009 15:47 To: ASSISTECH@... Subject: Re: pc user Yep! -----Original Message----- From: A discussion list for Assistive Technology professionals. [mailto:ASSISTECH@...] On Behalf Of Taylor, Barry Sent: 24 September 2009 15:08 To: ASSISTECH@... Subject: Re: pc user Jeremy Couldn't you do both on different prog pages? Barry Barry Taylor, Clinical Scientist Medical Physics Service Tulley Medical Physics Building, Hull Royal Infirmary Anlaby Road, Hull HU3 2JZ ****Please note new phone numbers from May 2009: Tel: 01482 608971, Fax: 01482 608951 Internal extension HRI 608971 barry.taylor@... rehabilitation.engineering@... -----Original Message----- From: A discussion list for Assistive Technology professionals. [mailto:ASSISTECH@...] On Behalf Of Jeremy Linskell Sent: 24 September 2009 15:04 To: ASSISTECH@... Subject: Re: pc user Hi All I am sure that Paul's advice regarding phone numbers; that is, to nest commands within cells is best from a Grid perspective, but that would preclude the opportunity to use the Prog to dial in standalone mode (or via w/c joystick if he's so independent)? Cheers Jeremy Editorial Board Member of Journal of Assistive Technologies http://pierprofessional.metapress.com/content/121393 -----Original Message----- From: A discussion list for Assistive Technology professionals. [mailto:ASSISTECH@...] On Behalf Of Paul Hawes Sent: 24 September 2009 12:05 To: ASSISTECH@... Subject: Re: pc user Interest declared The Grid 2 works with Prog III and Control Prog. Multiple codes are best handled by programming a cell to send a series of codes in separate commands. Paul HAwes On 23 Sep 2009 at 11:40, Jeremy Linskell wrote: > Hi Barry > > Gewa ProgIII would seems a reasonable solution if you can source one. You > can use Grid to activate individual Prog functions via the send IR utility. > You could use grid to create a phone book and store the numbers as macros on > the Prog. If he is such a high level user, he could probably manage the > phone book himself and even create the macros using the gewa windows > utility. > > Not sure how this approach would work with a Control Prog though. You > certainly can't create macros using the Gewacontroltool and I don't even now > if sendIR will work. > > We have also had some limited success with the Tira > (http://www.home-electro.com ), which we purchased from Smartbox, but it > seems to have problems learning multiple Gewa link codes. > > Cheers > > jeremy > > Jeremy Linskell CEng, CSci, MIPEM > Principal Clinical Scientist > Electronic Assistive Technology Service Ninewells Hospital NHS Tayside > tel: 01382-496286 > fax:01382-496322 > > Editorial Board Member of Journal of Assistive Technologies > http://pierprofessional.metapress.com/content/121393 > -----Original Message----- > From: A discussion list for Assistive Technology professionals. > [mailto:ASSISTECH@...] On Behalf Of Taylor, Barry > Sent: 23 September 2009 11:14 > To: ASSISTECH@... > Subject: pc user > > Dear all > I'm working with a tetra who is an intensive computer user. Looks > he's pretty good on integramouse plus VR. I've not had much recent > experience with this level of computer user so: > 1. What are people using for environmental control by PC. Is Grid as > good as anything? > 2. Is there something that keeps a phone book on pc & does the dialling. > All I can find is auto diallers aimed at the annoying telesales firms. > > Barry > > Barry Taylor, Clinical Scientist > Medical Physics Service > Tulley Medical Physics Building, Hull Royal Infirmary Anlaby Road, > Hull HU3 2JZ > > ****Please note new phone numbers from May 2009: > Tel: 01482 608971, Fax: 01482 608951 > Internal extension HRI 608971 > barry.taylor@... > rehabilitation.engineering@... > > > **** **************************************** > > This message may contain confidential information. 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Re: pc user
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***Commercial Interest*** If you are thinking of using the Gewa Control Prog & the user is competent you may need nothing else in terms of software. You can trigger Prog commands on a PC via: 1) Gewa's own software 2) Send_ir 3) "echo !S nn rr > comX" where nn =key number, rr = repetitions and comX = com port value ie com17 Items 2 & 3 can then be triggered via 1) desktop\folder shortcuts or via assigned hotkeys to shortcuts ie ctrl-alt-l for lamp 2) links in programmes such as PowerPoint 3) hyperlinks The individual can then use their preferred programme to do this The Prog can also be used standalone as a backup device if the PC is down. Neil Neil Hansen AAC Sales and Technology Manager Phone: Fax: Mobile: + 44 (0) 1943 871 004 + 44 (0) 871 666 3521 + 44 (0) 7734 551 205 Main: Fax: + 44 (0) 1296 461 000 + 44 (0) 1296 461 001 Possum Limited 8 Farmbrough Close Stocklake Park Industrial Estate Aylesbury Buckinghamshire HP20 1DQ UK E-mail: NHansen@... Website: www.possum.co.uk Founded in 1961, Possum Ltd, a successful UK company based in Buckinghamshire, has recently received the Queens Award for Enterprise in the Innovation category for their Electronic Assistive Technology products. Recognised for its innovative technology, Possum designs, manufactures and installs electronic devices which work together to enable disabled or elderly users to control their immediate environment. Possum is one of the few Assistive Technology providers to have received this award and is a worthy winner of the most prestigious business awards in the UK. This e-mail (which includes any files transmitted with it) may contain information that is sensitive, confidential and/or protected by law. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this e-mail and any attachments and notify us immediately. It is not to be relied upon by any person other than the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient of this email you may not use this information for any purpose or disclose it to any other person. This email and any attachments hereto are not intended to create contractual relations or legal obligations binding on the sending organisation and no action may be taken in reliance on this e-mail and any attachments hereto unless the contents are confirmed by letter. The views expressed in this communication may not necessarily be the views held by Possum Limited. -----Original Message----- From: A discussion list for Assistive Technology professionals. [mailto:ASSISTECH@...] On Behalf Of Taylor, Barry Sent: 24 September 2009 17:12 To: ASSISTECH@... Subject: Re: pc user Tony In this case I'm looking at PC because he's a heavy PC user for the rest of his life. IMHO he would need a backup ECS to cope with control elsewhere in the house, when the PC crashes or becomes unuseable because of virus etc. If you were to provide purely PC based EC would you allow use for internet etc? & therefore would you fund & install antivirus software? I recently spent an evening with Symantec remotely removing viruses from my new laptop after McAfee died & my grandson's relentless search for Sonic the Hedgehog picked up much more besides! It brings the situation closer to that where vocas are being used for EC - they are not supported by EC suppliers & need to be returned to base for repair & therefore can't be relied upon. Opportunities for the next NHS ECS contract? Barry Barry Taylor, Clinical Scientist Medical Physics Service Tulley Medical Physics Building, Hull Royal Infirmary Anlaby Road, Hull HU3 2JZ ****Please note new phone numbers from May 2009: Tel: 01482 608971, Fax: 01482 608951 Internal extension HRI 608971 barry.taylor@... rehabilitation.engineering@... -----Original Message----- From: A discussion list for Assistive Technology professionals. [mailto:ASSISTECH@...] On Behalf Of Tony Swann Sent: 24 September 2009 16:51 To: ASSISTECH@... Subject: Re: pc user Intersting discussion re PC based EC control. My initial assessment of the Tira and Gewa control star led me to adopt the Gewa control star as my preferred IR transmiiter. The Tira appear to be less reliable which I put down to poor transmissions of IR signals. The Gewa Prog 3 obviously is less of a concenr because of the batteries in it but it is a bit bulky and more expensive. I like the grid for developing pages of IR commands. It pretty straight forward. Up to this point we typically would be only taking a PC approach to EC when there were also AAC requirements, however...... bespoke PC (probably tablets or palm tops) EC controllers is some thing I have been musing about for a while. Legistically it is more intersting where NHS EAT services are providing direct support to clients. It would be intersting to hear the views of the EC contractors however. The cost of the base PC device is also coming down which make it more realistic. The pace of development of commercialy available kit gives me concerns reagrds long term support. Tony Swann -----Original Message----- From: A discussion list for Assistive Technology professionals. [mailto:ASSISTECH@...] On Behalf Of Jeremy Linskell Sent: 24 September 2009 15:47 To: ASSISTECH@... Subject: Re: pc user Yep! -----Original Message----- From: A discussion list for Assistive Technology professionals. [mailto:ASSISTECH@...] On Behalf Of Taylor, Barry Sent: 24 September 2009 15:08 To: ASSISTECH@... Subject: Re: pc user Jeremy Couldn't you do both on different prog pages? Barry Barry Taylor, Clinical Scientist Medical Physics Service Tulley Medical Physics Building, Hull Royal Infirmary Anlaby Road, Hull HU3 2JZ ****Please note new phone numbers from May 2009: Tel: 01482 608971, Fax: 01482 608951 Internal extension HRI 608971 barry.taylor@... rehabilitation.engineering@... -----Original Message----- From: A discussion list for Assistive Technology professionals. [mailto:ASSISTECH@...] On Behalf Of Jeremy Linskell Sent: 24 September 2009 15:04 To: ASSISTECH@... Subject: Re: pc user Hi All I am sure that Paul's advice regarding phone numbers; that is, to nest commands within cells is best from a Grid perspective, but that would preclude the opportunity to use the Prog to dial in standalone mode (or via w/c joystick if he's so independent)? Cheers Jeremy Editorial Board Member of Journal of Assistive Technologies http://pierprofessional.metapress.com/content/121393 -----Original Message----- From: A discussion list for Assistive Technology professionals. [mailto:ASSISTECH@...] On Behalf Of Paul Hawes Sent: 24 September 2009 12:05 To: ASSISTECH@... Subject: Re: pc user Interest declared The Grid 2 works with Prog III and Control Prog. Multiple codes are best handled by programming a cell to send a series of codes in separate commands. Paul HAwes On 23 Sep 2009 at 11:40, Jeremy Linskell wrote: > Hi Barry > > Gewa ProgIII would seems a reasonable solution if you can source one. You > can use Grid to activate individual Prog functions via the send IR utility. > You could use grid to create a phone book and store the numbers as macros on > the Prog. If he is such a high level user, he could probably manage the > phone book himself and even create the macros using the gewa windows > utility. > > Not sure how this approach would work with a Control Prog though. You > certainly can't create macros using the Gewacontroltool and I don't even now > if sendIR will work. > > We have also had some limited success with the Tira > (http://www.home-electro.com ), which we purchased from Smartbox, but it > seems to have problems learning multiple Gewa link codes. > > Cheers > > jeremy > > Jeremy Linskell CEng, CSci, MIPEM > Principal Clinical Scientist > Electronic Assistive Technology Service Ninewells Hospital NHS Tayside > tel: 01382-496286 > fax:01382-496322 > > Editorial Board Member of Journal of Assistive Technologies > http://pierprofessional.metapress.com/content/121393 > -----Original Message----- > From: A discussion list for Assistive Technology professionals. > [mailto:ASSISTECH@...] On Behalf Of Taylor, Barry > Sent: 23 September 2009 11:14 > To: ASSISTECH@... > Subject: pc user > > Dear all > I'm working with a tetra who is an intensive computer user. Looks > he's pretty good on integramouse plus VR. I've not had much recent > experience with this level of computer user so: > 1. What are people using for environmental control by PC. Is Grid as > good as anything? > 2. Is there something that keeps a phone book on pc & does the dialling. > All I can find is auto diallers aimed at the annoying telesales firms. > > Barry > > Barry Taylor, Clinical Scientist > Medical Physics Service > Tulley Medical Physics Building, Hull Royal Infirmary Anlaby Road, > Hull HU3 2JZ > > ****Please note new phone numbers from May 2009: > Tel: 01482 608971, Fax: 01482 608951 > Internal extension HRI 608971 > barry.taylor@... > rehabilitation.engineering@... > > > **** **************************************** > > This message may contain confidential information. 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