pedal and dynamic events

[Jared-42]

I have a couple of semi-related questions about inserting pedal and dynamic
events.

1. For the dynamic events (mp, etc.), do I need to insert them on each
separate track in order for the Interpret function to work?  I'd assume so,
but that'd look pretty ugly on the output.  I'd rather have one dynamic
event apply to all tracks at that point in time.  Is something like that
possible?  or maybe as an alternative could I make all but one of those
events invisible?

2. If I insert both a dynamic and pedal event at the same location (eg., at
the beginning of the song), they literally overlap each other on the
notation display.  Is there some way to have the dynamic symbol appear below
the pedal symbol, or vice-versa?

Thanks!

By the way, I've noticed that in the last 5 or 6 days I've been subscribed
to this list I'm the only one that's posted questions.  Is it normally this
low volume?

--
Jared

------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Come build with us! The BlackBerry® Developer Conference in SF, CA
is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your
developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay
ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9-12, 2009. Register now!
http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconf
_______________________________________________
Rosegarden-user mailing list
Rosegarden-user@... - use the link below to unsubscribe
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user

[Jared-42]

On 10/04/09 14:37, Jared wrote:
> 2. If I insert both a dynamic and pedal event at the same location (eg., at
> the beginning of the song), they literally overlap each other on the
> notation display.  Is there some way to have the dynamic symbol appear below
> the pedal symbol, or vice-versa?

OK, ignore #2.  I just accidentally discovered shift-click positioning.
Very nice.

One other question, though - is there some way to apply pedal events
globally (I guess this would be similar to question #1)?  Eg., if I have
tracks for both the treble and bass clef for piano, can I insert pedal
events for one and have it apply to the other?  On a real piano the pedal
gets applied to everything (obviously), so It's kind of odd dealing with
different pedal events per track.

Thanks again.

--
Jared


------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Come build with us! The BlackBerry® Developer Conference in SF, CA
is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your
developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay
ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9-12, 2009. Register now!
http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconf
_______________________________________________
Rosegarden-user mailing list
Rosegarden-user@... - use the link below to unsubscribe
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user

[D. Michael McIntyre]

On Sunday 04 October 2009, Jared wrote:

> 1. For the dynamic events (mp, etc.), do I need to insert them on each
> separate track in order for the Interpret function to work?

Yes.  You can go back and make the unwanted redundant ones invisible though.

It occurs to me that having a [x] Invisible checkbox in the text dialog could
be useful, and what would be even more useful still is some kind of "Invisible
in multi-staff views" thing.  For instance, you have to stick an "Allegro" in
every single part to get individual parts to print with the dynamic markings,
but you don't want a score overview with all these things in every part.  
Selective invisibility seems like an interesting way to approach that.

(I'm thinking in the way off what if maybe if the mood takes me kind of sense,
not the "I think I'll sit down and write this today" kind of sense.  I'm
booked up for a long time as it is.)

> but that'd look pretty ugly on the output.  I'd rather have one dynamic
> event apply to all tracks at that point in time.  Is something like that
> possible?

No, and in of itself this one isn't something I consider at all unreasonable.  
Tempo is global, time is global, but dynamics are very much a local thing.  I
wouldn't expect it to be all that common for multiple tracks to want to have
exactly the same dynamics.

As far as possible solutions, also in the way off what if sense, if I ever got
around to rewriting that event filter that's patterned after Cakewalk into
something that's much more useful for Rosegarden, you could use it to grab a
glob of stuff and filter out everything except the dynamics.  Then you should
be able to copy and paste them at will.  This is one I could potentially drum
up some real enthusiasm for, but not in the foreseeable future.  It's not a
quickie last minute feature, and there is so much more pressing work to do at
the moment.

> 2. If I insert both a dynamic and pedal event at the same location (eg., at
> the beginning of the song), they literally overlap each other

You discovered micro-positioning or whatever we call it.  That works for now.  
Another thing on this tall pile of maybe someday is the vertical layout code
really needs some heavy tweaking, because it's rather lame in innumerable
ways.

> By the way, I've noticed that in the last 5 or 6 days I've been subscribed
> to this list I'm the only one that's posted questions.  Is it normally this
> low volume?

It's been kind of dead lately.  It comes and goes.  I figure to some extent
this is all part of it being so long since our last release, with our next
release so long yet in coming.  I expect this list will probably get more
lively when I start announcing the pubic alpha of Thorn, but who knows.
--
D. Michael McIntyre

------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Come build with us! The BlackBerry® Developer Conference in SF, CA
is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your
developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay
ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9-12, 2009. Register now!
http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconf
_______________________________________________
Rosegarden-user mailing list
Rosegarden-user@... - use the link below to unsubscribe
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user

[D. Michael McIntyre]

On Sunday 04 October 2009, Jared wrote:

> One other question, though - is there some way to apply pedal events
> globally (I guess this would be similar to question #1)?  Eg., if I have
> tracks for both the treble and bass clef for piano, can I insert pedal
> events for one and have it apply to the other?  On a real piano the pedal
> gets applied to everything (obviously), so It's kind of odd dealing with
> different pedal events per track.

I don't play piano, but I have the idea that the pedal markings normally go at
the far bottom, don't they?  The way I'd deal with this, I'd set up two
segments, one for treble, one for bass.  I'd use two different tracks, because
there are two clefs here, and we want two separate staffs, but I'd assign both
tracks to the same instrument.  Then I'd put the sustain bits in the bass part
only.  Since both parts are playing through the same instrument, they'll use
the same MIDI channel and program, and sustain controllers work on a per
channel basis, so both parts will be affected equally.

(These are good questions, BTW.  Fodder for future tutorials.)
--
D. Michael McIntyre

------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Come build with us! The BlackBerry® Developer Conference in SF, CA
is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your
developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay
ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9-12, 2009. Register now!
http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconf
_______________________________________________
Rosegarden-user mailing list
Rosegarden-user@... - use the link below to unsubscribe
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user

[Jared-42]

On 10/04/09 18:13, D. Michael McIntyre wrote:
> I don't play piano, but I have the idea that the pedal markings normally go at
> the far bottom, don't they?  The way I'd deal with this, I'd set up two
> segments, one for treble, one for bass.  I'd use two different tracks, because
> there are two clefs here, and we want two separate staffs, but I'd assign both
> tracks to the same instrument.  Then I'd put the sustain bits in the bass part
> only.  Since both parts are playing through the same instrument, they'll use
> the same MIDI channel and program, and sustain controllers work on a per
> channel basis, so both parts will be affected equally.

That'll work.  Great suggestion.

As for the dynamic event thing, I've been applying separate events to all of
the segments and marking each of them invisible (except for the first).
It's a bit tedious, but it gets the job done.

Also, to your point dynamics not being a global thing... true, but I think
it's scope does reach beyond individual segments.  For example, let's say I
have a piano track with a bass clef, treble clef with two separate voices,
and a repeating section stuck in the middle of both.  Given Rosegarden's
current handling of voices and repeating (as I understand it, at least),
that's up to 9 separate segments for what's effectively a single track.  If
most or all of it is mezzo piano, then being able to apply it once up front
would be a big time saver.

Anyway, thanks again for all the help this weekend.

--
Jared

------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Come build with us! The BlackBerry® Developer Conference in SF, CA
is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your
developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay
ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9-12, 2009. Register now!
http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconf
_______________________________________________
Rosegarden-user mailing list
Rosegarden-user@... - use the link below to unsubscribe
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user

[D. Michael McIntyre]

On Sunday 04 October 2009, Jared wrote:

> Also, to your point dynamics not being a global thing... true, but I think
> it's scope does reach beyond individual segments.

I see your point.

I'm not sure of the most practical way to do something about it though.

I'll try to think something up, but I have no idea when.  The "foreseeable
future" doesn't extend that far out.
--
D. Michael McIntyre

------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Come build with us! The BlackBerry® Developer Conference in SF, CA
is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your
developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay
ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9-12, 2009. Register now!
http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconf
_______________________________________________
Rosegarden-user mailing list
Rosegarden-user@... - use the link below to unsubscribe
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user

[Al Thompson]

D. Michael McIntyre wrote:
> It's been kind of dead lately.  It comes and goes.  I figure to some extent
> this is all part of it being so long since our last release, with our next
> release so long yet in coming.  I expect this list will probably get more
> lively when I start announcing the pubic alpha of Thorn, but who knows.
>  

Will Thorn install alongside 1.7.x (Classic?) and still allow use of
Classic?

--


Check out the website I've been cobbling together.  It will never be done, but it's a start:
http://lateralforce.no-ip.org


My blog, with commentary on a variety of things, including audio, mixing, equipment, etc, is at:
http://audioandmore.wordpress.com

 
Staat heißt das kälteste aller kalten Ungeheuer.  Kalt lügt es auch;
und diese Lüge kriecht aus seinem Munde: 'Ich, der Staat, bin das Volk.'
                                                - [Friedrich Nietzsche]


------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Come build with us! The BlackBerry® Developer Conference in SF, CA
is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your
developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay
ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9-12, 2009. Register now!
http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconf
_______________________________________________
Rosegarden-user mailing list
Rosegarden-user@... - use the link below to unsubscribe
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user

[D. Michael McIntyre]

On Sunday 04 October 2009, Al Thompson wrote:

> Will Thorn install alongside 1.7.x (Classic?) and still allow use of
> Classic?

Thorn runs just fine if you don't install it at all, so the easiest thing to
do for now is run Classic from a distro package and run Thorn out of the
directory where you built it.

You can run one instance of Classic alongside any number of instances of
Thorn.  Here's a screenshot of this in action, with a different file loaded
into all four Rosegardens:

http://rosegardenmusic.com/wiki/_media/dev:rosegardens.jpeg
--
D. Michael McIntyre

------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Come build with us! The BlackBerry® Developer Conference in SF, CA
is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your
developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay
ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9-12, 2009. Register now!
http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconf
_______________________________________________
Rosegarden-user mailing list
Rosegarden-user@... - use the link below to unsubscribe
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user

[Henry W. Peters]

I am trying to compile from the svn... here is the error message I get
after $ sh ./bootstrap.sh

:~$ cd rosegarden
:~/rosegarden$ sh ./bootstrap.sh
autom4te: cannot create autom4te.cache: Permission denied
aclocal: autom4te failed with exit status: 1

Not sure what I should do about this. Any help appreciated.
Henry
P.s., running Ubuntu 9.04


D. Michael McIntyre wrote:

> On Sunday 04 October 2009, Al Thompson wrote:
>
>  
>> Will Thorn install alongside 1.7.x (Classic?) and still allow use of
>> Classic?
>>    
>
> Thorn runs just fine if you don't install it at all, so the easiest thing to
> do for now is run Classic from a distro package and run Thorn out of the
> directory where you built it.
>
> You can run one instance of Classic alongside any number of instances of
> Thorn.  Here's a screenshot of this in action, with a different file loaded
> into all four Rosegardens:
>
> http://rosegardenmusic.com/wiki/_media/dev:rosegardens.jpeg
>  

------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Come build with us! The BlackBerry® Developer Conference in SF, CA
is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your
developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay
ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9-12, 2009. Register now!
http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconf
_______________________________________________
Rosegarden-user mailing list
Rosegarden-user@... - use the link below to unsubscribe
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user

[Jared-42]

try making sure that the user you're compiling as owns all of the files
in the project directory.  This could be a problem if, for example, you
extracted the tarball as root but try to compile as a normal user.

This one-liner should list any files that are not owned by you:
find . \! -uid $UID

--
Jared

On 10/05/2009 02:25 PM, Henry W. Peters wrote:

> I am trying to compile from the svn... here is the error message I get
> after $ sh ./bootstrap.sh
>
> :~$ cd rosegarden
> :~/rosegarden$ sh ./bootstrap.sh
> autom4te: cannot create autom4te.cache: Permission denied
> aclocal: autom4te failed with exit status: 1
>
> Not sure what I should do about this. Any help appreciated.
> Henry
> P.s., running Ubuntu 9.04

------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Come build with us! The BlackBerry® Developer Conference in SF, CA
is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your
developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay
ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9-12, 2009. Register now!
http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconf
_______________________________________________
Rosegarden-user mailing list
Rosegarden-user@... - use the link below to unsubscribe
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user

[Henry W. Peters]

It appears that most if not all the RG files downloaded from svn are
"not owned by" me. Perhaps I need to put a sudo before I request the
files from svn (I have not used svn much)?

Thanks,
Henry

Jared wrote:
> try making sure that the user you're compiling as owns all of the files
> in the project directory.  This could be a problem if, for example, you
> extracted the tarball as root but try to compile as a normal user.
>
> This one-liner should list any files that are not owned by you:
> find . \! -uid $UID
>
>  

------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Come build with us! The BlackBerry® Developer Conference in SF, CA
is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your
developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay
ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9-12, 2009. Register now!
http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconf
_______________________________________________
Rosegarden-user mailing list
Rosegarden-user@... - use the link below to unsubscribe
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user

[Jared-42]

well, I don't have much experience with subversion either, but can you
not run the command as your normal user?  That should create everything
with the appropriately privileges.

Alternatively, if you have root/sudo access, just change ownership back
to yourself:
sudo chown -R username /path/to/rosegarden

Or, double alternatively, this seems to pull down the current trunk as a
tarball without requiring subversion:
http://rosegarden.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/rosegarden/trunk/rosegarden.tar.gz?view=tar

You should be able to just download and extract that as usual.

--
Jared

------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Come build with us! The BlackBerry® Developer Conference in SF, CA
is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your
developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay
ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9-12, 2009. Register now!
http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconf
_______________________________________________
Rosegarden-user mailing list
Rosegarden-user@... - use the link below to unsubscribe
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user

[Julie S]

Hello All,

I'm not certain what the problem is, but it certainly sounds like a rights issue.

you should not need to use sudo with the svn co or svn up commands.

To rephrase this, if you do "need" to do this, then you "will need" to run sudo on all commmand in the compile sequence.

So the question is, where are you and which directory when you are issuing your svn commands?

The short of it is that wherever you run these commands, you must have r/w/x privileges to the directory you are placing files in.

You can be the owner of the directory or be part of the group that has these privleges.

Why? Because the bootstrap, configure, and make will all need to be able to write to files in this directory and if you do not have r/w/x privileges then these commands can not do their work (add new files), and you will not be able to run rosegarden from this directory.

I hope this helps.  If this is not the problem, then maybe we will need to investigate this further.

Sincerely,
Julie S.



     

------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Come build with us! The BlackBerry® Developer Conference in SF, CA
is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your
developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay
ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9-12, 2009. Register now!
http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconf
_______________________________________________
Rosegarden-user mailing list
Rosegarden-user@... - use the link below to unsubscribe
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user

[D. Michael McIntyre]

On Monday 05 October 2009, Henry W. Peters wrote:

> It appears that most if not all the RG files downloaded from svn are
> "not owned by" me. Perhaps I need to put a sudo before I request the
> files from svn (I have not used svn much)?

Weird.

You can probably fix this with something like

sudo chown -R $(whoami) rosegarden

although I can't quite imagine how you got into this predicament in the first
place.

--
D. Michael McIntyre

------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Come build with us! The BlackBerry® Developer Conference in SF, CA
is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your
developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay
ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9-12, 2009. Register now!
http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconf
_______________________________________________
Rosegarden-user mailing list
Rosegarden-user@... - use the link below to unsubscribe
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user

[Henry W. Peters]

D. Michael McIntyre wrote:

> On Monday 05 October 2009, Henry W. Peters wrote:
>
>  
>> It appears that most if not all the RG files downloaded from svn are
>> "not owned by" me. Perhaps I need to put a sudo before I request the
>> files from svn (I have not used svn much)?
>>    
>
> Weird.
>
> You can probably fix this with something like
>
> sudo chown -R $(whoami) rosegarden
>
> although I can't quite imagine how you got into this predicament in the first
> place.
>
>  

:) I think it was (making a try at) following directions!  (perhaps I
missed something along the way (I went to the RG dev wiki, in fact, I
did some cut & pasting to the terminal)?)

Thanks, I'll try the command... & get back w/ result (I may need too).

Henry

P.s., I think it would be good to know exactly what directory the
temporary (?) svn files get sent to... in case I need to dump them, &
start again (& perhaps a command to do this could be good to know, as well).


------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Come build with us! The BlackBerry® Developer Conference in SF, CA
is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your
developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay
ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9-12, 2009. Register now!
http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconf
_______________________________________________
Rosegarden-user mailing list
Rosegarden-user@... - use the link below to unsubscribe
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user

[D. Michael McIntyre]

On Monday 05 October 2009, Henry W. Peters wrote:

> P.s., I think it would be good to know exactly what directory the
> temporary (?) svn files get sent to... in case I need to dump them, &
> start again (& perhaps a command to do this could be good to know, as
> well).

When you do a checkout, it gets sent to wherever you happen to be sitting at
the moment.  It should all wind up under $PWD/rosegarden with no real
mysteries to unravel.

Frankly, you must be doing something really perplexing to be having these
issues in the first place.
--
D. Michael McIntyre

------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Come build with us! The BlackBerry® Developer Conference in SF, CA
is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your
developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay
ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9-12, 2009. Register now!
http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconf
_______________________________________________
Rosegarden-user mailing list
Rosegarden-user@... - use the link below to unsubscribe
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user

[Henry W. Peters]

D. Michael McIntyre wrote:

> On Monday 05 October 2009, Henry W. Peters wrote:
>
>  
>> P.s., I think it would be good to know exactly what directory the
>> temporary (?) svn files get sent to... in case I need to dump them, &
>> start again (& perhaps a command to do this could be good to know, as
>> well).
>>    
>
> When you do a checkout, it gets sent to wherever you happen to be sitting at
> the moment.  It should all wind up under $PWD/rosegarden with no real
> mysteries to unravel.
>
> Frankly, you must be doing something really perplexing to be having these
> issues in the first place.
>  

Ok Michael (& all),

That command worked, I got my "rights" back, until I got to an
apparently premature termination of the 'make' instruction (quite a way
into it), then I got the following error msg:

src/sound/audiostream/WavFileWriteStream.cpp: In constructor
‘Rosegarden::WavFileWriteStream::WavFileWriteStream(Rosegarden::AudioWriteStream::Target)’:
src/sound/audiostream/WavFileWriteStream.cpp:46: error: ‘cerr’ is not a
member of ‘std’
make: *** [src/sound/audiostream/WavFileWriteStream.o] Error 1

Is this a missing dependency? (doesn't really look like any msg I have
seen before).

Thanks.
Henry

------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Come build with us! The BlackBerry® Developer Conference in SF, CA
is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your
developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay
ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9-12, 2009. Register now!
http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconf
_______________________________________________
Rosegarden-user mailing list
Rosegarden-user@... - use the link below to unsubscribe
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user

[D. Michael McIntyre]

On Monday 05 October 2009, Henry W. Peters wrote:

> Is this a missing dependency? (doesn't really look like any msg I have
> seen before).

Try updating again (svn up) and see if it works now.  I tried to fix that,
although it wasn't actually an issue for me here.
--
D. Michael McIntyre

------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Come build with us! The BlackBerry® Developer Conference in SF, CA
is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your
developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay
ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9-12, 2009. Register now!
http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconf
_______________________________________________
Rosegarden-user mailing list
Rosegarden-user@... - use the link below to unsubscribe
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user

[Henry W. Peters]

D. Michael McIntyre wrote:

> On Monday 05 October 2009, Henry W. Peters wrote:
>
>  
>> Is this a missing dependency? (doesn't really look like any msg I have
>> seen before).
>>    
>
> Try updating again (svn up) and see if it works now.  I tried to fix that,
> although it wasn't actually an issue for me here.
>  

Hi Micheal & All,

Whatever you tweeked in the svn version... did what needed to be done
(for me anyway), sofar, sogood. Thanks much for help...

Thorn looks very nice... I noticed a couple of things off the top...
(one brief flickering piece of music done, no bells & whistles) but will
reserve (any other) comments for a little later, if need be (i.e.,
probably some obvious matters being worked on (?)). But  please let me
(& us) know, what kind of observations might be helpful...

Yours in music,

Henry



------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Come build with us! The BlackBerry® Developer Conference in SF, CA
is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your
developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay
ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9-12, 2009. Register now!
http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconf
_______________________________________________
Rosegarden-user mailing list
Rosegarden-user@... - use the link below to unsubscribe
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user

[D. Michael McIntyre]

On Tuesday 06 October 2009, Henry W. Peters wrote:

> Whatever you tweeked in the svn version... did what needed to be done
> (for me anyway), sofar, sogood. Thanks much for help...

Sure.  The problem was easy to fix.  I simply had no idea it existed.

> But  please let me (& us) know, what kind of observations might be
> helpful...

After thinking about that a moment, I have to say I'd rather err on the side
of having people belabor the obvious than risk missing something simply
because everyone thought it would be obvious.

I don't normally discover most problems myself until I'm in a music creation
or tutorial writing cycle, and all my time is going into development these
days.

I know there are numerous things still missing from the notation editor, for
example, but I don't have a systematic list of what, and I don't know that any
of it is immediately obvious in my day to day piddling, which tends to stay
focused on the one single thing I'm working on at that moment.

Things I would consider obvious:

There is no "show volume/reverb/whatever control ruler" in the matrix yet.

Control ruler (presently only works for pitch bend) selection needs to be tied
with the overall editor's selection so it can tie into the same cut/copy/paste
mechanism.

Rulers in notation may or may not be working yet (this is in progress, and I
haven't checked in to see how far along it presently is).

Notation has no "move cursor to staff above/below" and "move cursor to
next/previous" segment functionality yet.  This is really critical, but I got
stuck trying to make it work, so I had to leave it to avoid throwing a brick
at something in frustration.

The above functionality needs to be transplanted to the matrix as much as
possible (probably just the next/previous segment bit of that, since all
segments from all tracks in a shared matrix view effectively inhabit the same
"staff").

That's pretty much everything I have on my "radar screen" at the moment, and
there could well be many other problems I'm not particularly aware of.

Also, my current active project is ironing out the broken bank editor.  It's
obvious it's still broken, but it would be useful for people who have a lot of
experience using the bank editor in Classic to run through the thing and point
out the ways in which it is still broken.  It is less so than it was when I
started, but I'm sure there's a long way to go yet.  (I'm talking about
functionality more than the layout.  The layout and style need work too, but
all of that really is obvious, and I'm working on making it more compact and
better-behaved.)

--
D. Michael McIntyre

------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Come build with us! The BlackBerry® Developer Conference in SF, CA
is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your
developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay
ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9-12, 2009. Register now!
http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconf
_______________________________________________
Rosegarden-user mailing list
Rosegarden-user@... - use the link below to unsubscribe
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user