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by Roberto Saccon
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I am struggling with plugins, and I am at the very first begin, just
played with the clock demo. I posted about this on normal textmate list, and now I discovered that there is a specific plugin mailing list. I want to do better Erlang / textmate integration, see details here: http://www.rsaccon.com/2007/11/faster-interaction-between-erlang-and.html What I want to do is subscribe to events when a textmate starts and stops (or even when a specific language grammar gets activated or deactivated if that is possible) and when a document gets saved. And in case of such events I want to run my custom code in C for starting a Erlang VM in the background, Erlang compiling and other stuff. I am not familiar with Objective C, nor with Cocoa, but I am familiar with C, so I guess I an figure out things .. Is this possible at all ? Somebody can point me in the right direction, for me figuring out how to do it ? Does it make sense at all ? If with upcoming TextMate 2.0 things will look completely different, just say "no". regards -- Roberto Saccon http://rsaccon.com _______________________________________________ textmate-plugins mailing list textmate-plugins@... http://lists.macromates.com/mailman/listinfo/textmate-plugins |
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Re: plugin beginner questions
by Ciarán Walsh-3
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While what you want to do is likely possible, there is currently no
API for plug-ins (aside from the facility to load them) so anything you want to do must essentially be done through reverse-engineering/ hacking TextMate. I believe at some point TextMate 2.0 will offer a plug-in API, and TextMate 2.0 itself will be mostly a complete rewrite, so plug-ins written for the current version are unlikely to work. That said: The clock plug-in includes some code for observing the currently edited document (I believe it’s commented out at the top of Clock.mm, the NSWindow subclass and poseAsClass: call below). At its simplest this would allow you to observe when the current document changes to one with an extension you are interested in and then run your code. To hook into file saving I think you’d want to swizzle[1] - [OakDocumentController saveDocument:], but an easier method would be to change the target of the “Save” menu item to call a method in your plug-in class and then call saveDocument: from there, before doing your custom operations. [1]: http://www.cocoadev.com/index.pl?MethodSwizzling On 27 Nov 2007, at 13:58, Roberto Saccon wrote: > I am struggling with plugins, and I am at the very first begin, just > played with the clock demo. > > I posted about this on normal textmate list, and now I discovered that > there is a specific plugin mailing list. I want to do better Erlang / > textmate integration, see details here: > http://www.rsaccon.com/2007/11/faster-interaction-between-erlang-and.html > > What I want to do is subscribe to events when a textmate starts and > stops (or even when a specific language grammar gets activated or > deactivated if that is possible) and when a document gets saved. And > in case of such events I want to run my custom code in C for starting > a Erlang VM in the background, Erlang compiling and other stuff. I am > not familiar with Objective C, nor with Cocoa, but I am familiar with > C, so I guess I an figure out things .. > > Is this possible at all ? Somebody can point me in the right > direction, for me figuring out how to do it ? > > Does it make sense at all ? If with upcoming TextMate 2.0 things will > look completely different, just say "no". > > regards > -- > Roberto Saccon > http://rsaccon.com > _______________________________________________ > textmate-plugins mailing list > textmate-plugins@... > http://lists.macromates.com/mailman/listinfo/textmate-plugins _______________________________________________ textmate-plugins mailing list textmate-plugins@... http://lists.macromates.com/mailman/listinfo/textmate-plugins |
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Re: plugin beginner questions
by Roberto Saccon
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thanks very much. I managed to adapt the Clock example plugin so it
starts an Erlang VM in the background and I am working on a simple C program to serve as command line utility within scripts to bridge to the background Erlang VM. But one stupid litte thing I didn't manage to figure out when I tried to create my own plugin project with xcode. Which template do I choose to get a *.tmplugin and not an *.app ? regards Roberto On Nov 27, 2007 6:37 PM, Ciarán Walsh <ciawal@...> wrote: > While what you want to do is likely possible, there is currently no > API for plug-ins (aside from the facility to load them) so anything > you want to do must essentially be done through reverse-engineering/ > hacking TextMate. > I believe at some point TextMate 2.0 will offer a plug-in API, and > TextMate 2.0 itself will be mostly a complete rewrite, so plug-ins > written for the current version are unlikely to work. > > That said: > > The clock plug-in includes some code for observing the currently > edited document (I believe it's commented out at the top of Clock.mm, > the NSWindow subclass and poseAsClass: call below). > At its simplest this would allow you to observe when the current > document changes to one with an extension you are interested in and > then run your code. > > To hook into file saving I think you'd want to swizzle[1] - > [OakDocumentController saveDocument:], but an easier method would be > to change the target of the "Save" menu item to call a method in your > plug-in class and then call saveDocument: from there, before doing > your custom operations. > > [1]: http://www.cocoadev.com/index.pl?MethodSwizzling > > > On 27 Nov 2007, at 13:58, Roberto Saccon wrote: > > > I am struggling with plugins, and I am at the very first begin, just > > played with the clock demo. > > > > I posted about this on normal textmate list, and now I discovered that > > there is a specific plugin mailing list. I want to do better Erlang / > > textmate integration, see details here: > > http://www.rsaccon.com/2007/11/faster-interaction-between-erlang-and.html > > > > What I want to do is subscribe to events when a textmate starts and > > stops (or even when a specific language grammar gets activated or > > deactivated if that is possible) and when a document gets saved. And > > in case of such events I want to run my custom code in C for starting > > a Erlang VM in the background, Erlang compiling and other stuff. I am > > not familiar with Objective C, nor with Cocoa, but I am familiar with > > C, so I guess I an figure out things .. > > > > Is this possible at all ? Somebody can point me in the right > > direction, for me figuring out how to do it ? > > > > Does it make sense at all ? If with upcoming TextMate 2.0 things will > > look completely different, just say "no". > > > > regards > > -- > > Roberto Saccon > > http://rsaccon.com > > _______________________________________________ > > textmate-plugins mailing list > > textmate-plugins@... > > http://lists.macromates.com/mailman/listinfo/textmate-plugins > > _______________________________________________ > textmate-plugins mailing list > textmate-plugins@... > http://lists.macromates.com/mailman/listinfo/textmate-plugins > -- Roberto Saccon http://rsaccon.com _______________________________________________ textmate-plugins mailing list textmate-plugins@... http://lists.macromates.com/mailman/listinfo/textmate-plugins |
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Re: plugin beginner questions
by Ciarán Walsh-3
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Download this: http://ciaranwal.sh/files/TextMate%20Plugin.tgz
And extract it to /Developer/Library/Xcode/Project Templates/Bundle/ (for Leopard – I can’t remember the location for Tiger but I’m sure you can find it). On 1 Dec 2007, at 11:54, Roberto Saccon wrote: > thanks very much. I managed to adapt the Clock example plugin so it > starts an Erlang VM in the background and I am working on a simple C > program to serve as command line utility within scripts to bridge to > the background Erlang VM. > > But one stupid litte thing I didn't manage to figure out when I tried > to create my own plugin project with xcode. Which template do I choose > to get a *.tmplugin and not an *.app ? > > regards > Roberto > > On Nov 27, 2007 6:37 PM, Ciarán Walsh <ciawal@...> wrote: >> While what you want to do is likely possible, there is currently no >> API for plug-ins (aside from the facility to load them) so anything >> you want to do must essentially be done through reverse-engineering/ >> hacking TextMate. >> I believe at some point TextMate 2.0 will offer a plug-in API, and >> TextMate 2.0 itself will be mostly a complete rewrite, so plug-ins >> written for the current version are unlikely to work. >> >> That said: >> >> The clock plug-in includes some code for observing the currently >> edited document (I believe it's commented out at the top of Clock.mm, >> the NSWindow subclass and poseAsClass: call below). >> At its simplest this would allow you to observe when the current >> document changes to one with an extension you are interested in and >> then run your code. >> >> To hook into file saving I think you'd want to swizzle[1] - >> [OakDocumentController saveDocument:], but an easier method would be >> to change the target of the "Save" menu item to call a method in your >> plug-in class and then call saveDocument: from there, before doing >> your custom operations. >> >> [1]: http://www.cocoadev.com/index.pl?MethodSwizzling >> >> >> On 27 Nov 2007, at 13:58, Roberto Saccon wrote: >> >>> I am struggling with plugins, and I am at the very first begin, just >>> played with the clock demo. >>> >>> I posted about this on normal textmate list, and now I discovered >>> that >>> there is a specific plugin mailing list. I want to do better >>> Erlang / >>> textmate integration, see details here: >>> http://www.rsaccon.com/2007/11/faster-interaction-between-erlang-and.html >>> >>> What I want to do is subscribe to events when a textmate starts and >>> stops (or even when a specific language grammar gets activated or >>> deactivated if that is possible) and when a document gets saved. And >>> in case of such events I want to run my custom code in C for >>> starting >>> a Erlang VM in the background, Erlang compiling and other stuff. I >>> am >>> not familiar with Objective C, nor with Cocoa, but I am familiar >>> with >>> C, so I guess I an figure out things .. >>> >>> Is this possible at all ? Somebody can point me in the right >>> direction, for me figuring out how to do it ? >>> >>> Does it make sense at all ? If with upcoming TextMate 2.0 things >>> will >>> look completely different, just say "no". >>> >>> regards >>> -- >>> Roberto Saccon >>> http://rsaccon.com >>> _______________________________________________ >>> textmate-plugins mailing list >>> textmate-plugins@... >>> http://lists.macromates.com/mailman/listinfo/textmate-plugins >> >> _______________________________________________ >> textmate-plugins mailing list >> textmate-plugins@... >> http://lists.macromates.com/mailman/listinfo/textmate-plugins >> > > > > -- > Roberto Saccon > http://rsaccon.com > _______________________________________________ > textmate-plugins mailing list > textmate-plugins@... > http://lists.macromates.com/mailman/listinfo/textmate-plugins _______________________________________________ textmate-plugins mailing list textmate-plugins@... http://lists.macromates.com/mailman/listinfo/textmate-plugins |
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Re: plugin beginner questions
by Roberto Saccon
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Ciarán, Christmas came early this year. Thanks very much.
On Dec 1, 2007 6:04 PM, Ciarán Walsh <ciawal@...> wrote: > Download this: http://ciaranwal.sh/files/TextMate%20Plugin.tgz > > And extract it to /Developer/Library/Xcode/Project Templates/Bundle/ > (for Leopard – I can't remember the location for Tiger but I'm sure > you can find it). > > > On 1 Dec 2007, at 11:54, Roberto Saccon wrote: > > > thanks very much. I managed to adapt the Clock example plugin so it > > starts an Erlang VM in the background and I am working on a simple C > > program to serve as command line utility within scripts to bridge to > > the background Erlang VM. > > > > But one stupid litte thing I didn't manage to figure out when I tried > > to create my own plugin project with xcode. Which template do I choose > > to get a *.tmplugin and not an *.app ? > > > > regards > > Roberto > > > > On Nov 27, 2007 6:37 PM, Ciarán Walsh <ciawal@...> wrote: > >> While what you want to do is likely possible, there is currently no > >> API for plug-ins (aside from the facility to load them) so anything > >> you want to do must essentially be done through reverse-engineering/ > >> hacking TextMate. > >> I believe at some point TextMate 2.0 will offer a plug-in API, and > >> TextMate 2.0 itself will be mostly a complete rewrite, so plug-ins > >> written for the current version are unlikely to work. > >> > >> That said: > >> > >> The clock plug-in includes some code for observing the currently > >> edited document (I believe it's commented out at the top of Clock.mm, > >> the NSWindow subclass and poseAsClass: call below). > >> At its simplest this would allow you to observe when the current > >> document changes to one with an extension you are interested in and > >> then run your code. > >> > >> To hook into file saving I think you'd want to swizzle[1] - > >> [OakDocumentController saveDocument:], but an easier method would be > >> to change the target of the "Save" menu item to call a method in your > >> plug-in class and then call saveDocument: from there, before doing > >> your custom operations. > >> > >> [1]: http://www.cocoadev.com/index.pl?MethodSwizzling > >> > >> > >> On 27 Nov 2007, at 13:58, Roberto Saccon wrote: > >> > >>> I am struggling with plugins, and I am at the very first begin, just > >>> played with the clock demo. > >>> > >>> I posted about this on normal textmate list, and now I discovered > >>> that > >>> there is a specific plugin mailing list. I want to do better > >>> Erlang / > >>> textmate integration, see details here: > >>> http://www.rsaccon.com/2007/11/faster-interaction-between-erlang-and.html > >>> > >>> What I want to do is subscribe to events when a textmate starts and > >>> stops (or even when a specific language grammar gets activated or > >>> deactivated if that is possible) and when a document gets saved. And > >>> in case of such events I want to run my custom code in C for > >>> starting > >>> a Erlang VM in the background, Erlang compiling and other stuff. I > >>> am > >>> not familiar with Objective C, nor with Cocoa, but I am familiar > >>> with > >>> C, so I guess I an figure out things .. > >>> > >>> Is this possible at all ? Somebody can point me in the right > >>> direction, for me figuring out how to do it ? > >>> > >>> Does it make sense at all ? If with upcoming TextMate 2.0 things > >>> will > >>> look completely different, just say "no". > >>> > >>> regards > >>> -- > >>> Roberto Saccon > >>> http://rsaccon.com > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> textmate-plugins mailing list > >>> textmate-plugins@... > >>> http://lists.macromates.com/mailman/listinfo/textmate-plugins > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> textmate-plugins mailing list > >> textmate-plugins@... > >> http://lists.macromates.com/mailman/listinfo/textmate-plugins > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > Roberto Saccon > > http://rsaccon.com > > _______________________________________________ > > textmate-plugins mailing list > > textmate-plugins@... > > http://lists.macromates.com/mailman/listinfo/textmate-plugins > > _______________________________________________ > textmate-plugins mailing list > textmate-plugins@... > http://lists.macromates.com/mailman/listinfo/textmate-plugins > -- Roberto Saccon http://rsaccon.com _______________________________________________ textmate-plugins mailing list textmate-plugins@... http://lists.macromates.com/mailman/listinfo/textmate-plugins |
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