possible abuse of debian and GPL

[rich123409]

The following site appears to be selling a computer with a modified Debian system. I could find nothing on the site about the OS or where I might get the source code.
In one of the screenshots I noticed it was using iceweasel  so I assumed it was using Debian.

http://thegocomputer.com/index.html

[MJ Ray-2]

richard newton <rich123409@...> wrote:
> The following site appears to be selling a computer with a modified Debian
> system. I could find nothing on the site about the OS or where I might get
> the source code.
> In one of the screenshots I noticed it was using iceweasel  so I assumed it
> was using Debian.
>
> http://thegocomputer.com/index.html

Thanks for the email.  I'm not sure the debian project can fix that.

Is there any evidence that they are not giving the source code to
their customers?  They are not required to publish it to all.  See
http://www.fsf.org/licensing/licenses/gpl-faq.html#GPLRequireSourcePostedPublic

If there is evidence, I suggest you contact one of the copyright
holders (see the About box of a supplied program) and/or the FSF,
http://www.fsfeurope.org/ftf/ or GPL-Violations.org
http://gpl-violations.org/faq/violation-faq.html

Hope that explains,
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[Harry Rickards-3]

2009/10/27 MJ Ray <mjr@...>:

> richard newton <rich123409@...> wrote:
>> The following site appears to be selling a computer with a modified Debian
>> system. I could find nothing on the site about the OS or where I might get
>> the source code.
>> In one of the screenshots I noticed it was using iceweasel  so I assumed it
>> was using Debian.
>>
>> http://thegocomputer.com/index.html
>
> Thanks for the email.  I'm not sure the debian project can fix that.
>
> Is there any evidence that they are not giving the source code to
> their customers?  They are not required to publish it to all.  See
> http://www.fsf.org/licensing/licenses/gpl-faq.html#GPLRequireSourcePostedPublic
>
> If there is evidence, I suggest you contact one of the copyright
> holders (see the About box of a supplied program) and/or the FSF,
> http://www.fsfeurope.org/ftf/ or GPL-Violations.org
> http://gpl-violations.org/faq/violation-faq.html
>

I went onto their live chat, and asked for a copy of the source code.
They said 'the source code is not open'. I asked if that applied for
customers of the Go Computer as well. They said 'yes'.

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[Jesús M. Navarro-2]

On Tuesday 27 October 2009 20:10:10 MJ Ray wrote:

> richard newton <rich123409@...> wrote:
> > The following site appears to be selling a computer with a modified
> > Debian system. I could find nothing on the site about the OS or where I
> > might get the source code.
> > In one of the screenshots I noticed it was using iceweasel  so I assumed
> > it was using Debian.
> >
> > http://thegocomputer.com/index.html
>
> Thanks for the email.  I'm not sure the debian project can fix that.

Maybe it can do something:
http://arstechnica.com/open-source/news/2009/09/big-gpl-copyright-enforcement-win-in-paris-court-of-appeals.ars


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[Paul Wise-3]

On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 12:16 AM, richard newton <rich123409@...> wrote:

> The following site appears to be selling a computer with a modified Debian
> system. I could find nothing on the site about the OS or where I might get
> the source code.
> In one of the screenshots I noticed it was using iceweasel  so I assumed it
> was using Debian.

None of the screenshots I could find had an Iceweasel logo, which
screenshot did you mean?

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