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	pre-RFC: Soundtrack's track title style by Gioele Barabucci :: Rate this Message: Reply to Author \| View Threaded \| Show Only this Message Hello, right now there are no clear guidelines on how to deal with compilations that combine tracks from more than one soundtrack. The current trend is to name these tracks using the "Movie name: Track name" template. I like this template and I'd like to put forward a RFC to codify this behaviour into a guideline. Any comments? -- Gioele <gioele@...> _______________________________________________ Musicbrainz-style mailing list Musicbrainz-style@... http://lists.musicbrainz.org/mailman/listinfo/musicbrainz-style
	Re: pre-RFC: Soundtrack's track title style by Jan van Thiel-4 :: Rate this Message: Reply to Author \| View Threaded \| Show Only this Message 2009/8/11 Gioele <gioele@...>: > right now there are no clear guidelines on how to deal with compilations > that combine tracks from more than one soundtrack. > > The current trend is to name these tracks using the "Movie name: Track name" > template. I like this template and I'd like to put forward a RFC to codify > this behaviour into a guideline. > > Any comments? Do you have some real-life examples where this template might be used? Jan _______________________________________________ Musicbrainz-style mailing list Musicbrainz-style@... http://lists.musicbrainz.org/mailman/listinfo/musicbrainz-style
	Re: pre-RFC: Soundtrack's track title style by Gioele Barabucci :: Rate this Message: Reply to Author \| View Threaded \| Show Only this Message Jan van Thiel wrote: >> The current trend is to name these tracks using the "Movie name: Track >> name" template. I like this template and I'd like to put forward a RFC to >> codify this behaviour into a guideline. > > Do you have some real-life examples where this template might be used? At least in dozens of Ennio Morricone's Best Of compilations. Other examples are the many compilations of Nino Rota and Armando Trovajoli. -- Gioele <gioele@...> _______________________________________________ Musicbrainz-style mailing list Musicbrainz-style@... http://lists.musicbrainz.org/mailman/listinfo/musicbrainz-style
	Re: pre-RFC: Soundtrack's track title style by Pavel Fedyakov :: Rate this Message: Reply to Author \| View Threaded \| Show Only this Message Gioele wrote: > Hello, > > right now there are no clear guidelines on how to deal with compilations > that combine tracks from more than one soundtrack. > > The current trend is to name these tracks using the "Movie name: Track name" > template. I like this template and I'd like to put forward a RFC to codify > this behaviour into a guideline. > > Any comments? > I object. Any song's title should be the same unless it's an artist's intention. Relation to particular soundtrack may be reflected by appropriate AR. As an argument, title variation breaks Last.fm statistics. _______________________________________________ Musicbrainz-style mailing list Musicbrainz-style@... http://lists.musicbrainz.org/mailman/listinfo/musicbrainz-style
	Re: pre-RFC: Soundtrack's track title style by Paul C. Bryan :: Rate this Message: Reply to Author \| View Threaded \| Show Only this Message Artist intention is hardly going to survive a soundtrack compilation. And there's precedent for including movie title as prefix. On Tue, 2009-08-11 at 20:25 +0400, Pavel Fedyakov wrote: > Gioele wrote: > > Hello, > > > > right now there are no clear guidelines on how to deal with compilations > > that combine tracks from more than one soundtrack. > > > > The current trend is to name these tracks using the "Movie name: Track name" > > template. I like this template and I'd like to put forward a RFC to codify > > this behaviour into a guideline. > > > > Any comments? > > > > I object. Any song's title should be the same unless it's an artist's > intention. Relation to particular soundtrack may be reflected by > appropriate AR. > > As an argument, title variation breaks Last.fm statistics. > > _______________________________________________ > Musicbrainz-style mailing list > Musicbrainz-style@... > http://lists.musicbrainz.org/mailman/listinfo/musicbrainz-style _______________________________________________ Musicbrainz-style mailing list Musicbrainz-style@... http://lists.musicbrainz.org/mailman/listinfo/musicbrainz-style
	Re: pre-RFC: Soundtrack's track title style by Gioele Barabucci :: Rate this Message: Reply to Author \| View Threaded \| Show Only this Message Paul C. Bryan wrote: > Artist intention is hardly going to survive a soundtrack compilation. > And there's precedent for including movie title as prefix. There is also a concrete and practical reason: on a single disc one can usually find 3 or 4 tracks named "Main theme" or "Titoli di coda", impossible to tell apart without having the movie title in the track title. -- Gioele <gioele@...> _______________________________________________ Musicbrainz-style mailing list Musicbrainz-style@... http://lists.musicbrainz.org/mailman/listinfo/musicbrainz-style
	Re: pre-RFC: Soundtrack's track title style by Pavel Fedyakov :: Rate this Message: Reply to Author \| View Threaded \| Show Only this Message Gioele wrote: > Paul C. Bryan wrote: > >> Artist intention is hardly going to survive a soundtrack compilation. >> And there's precedent for including movie title as prefix. >> > There is also a concrete and practical reason: on a single disc one can > usually find 3 or 4 tracks named "Main theme" or "Titoli di coda", > impossible to tell apart without having the movie title in the track title. Ok. That's the reason. _______________________________________________ Musicbrainz-style mailing list Musicbrainz-style@... http://lists.musicbrainz.org/mailman/listinfo/musicbrainz-style
	Re: pre-RFC: Soundtrack's track title style by Nine99 :: Rate this Message: Reply to Author \| View Threaded \| Show Only this Message Pavel Fedyakov schrieb: > Gioele wrote: > >> Paul C. Bryan wrote: >> >> >>> Artist intention is hardly going to survive a soundtrack compilation. >>> And there's precedent for including movie title as prefix. >>> >>> >> There is also a concrete and practical reason: on a single disc one can >> usually find 3 or 4 tracks named "Main theme" or "Titoli di coda", >> impossible to tell apart without having the movie title in the track title. >> > > > Ok. That's the reason. > Maybe we should only add the movie title to such "Main Themes", e.g. "Superman Main Theme", because on other tracks it would jsut look strange: "Requiem for a Dream: Winter: Lux Aeterna", "Koyaanisqatsi: Koyaanisqatsi". _______________________________________________ Musicbrainz-style mailing list Musicbrainz-style@... http://lists.musicbrainz.org/mailman/listinfo/musicbrainz-style
	Re: pre-RFC: Soundtrack's track title style by Paul C. Bryan :: Rate this Message: Reply to Author \| View Threaded \| Show Only this Message "Requiem for a Dream: Winter: Lux Aeterna" would look weird on a soundtrack compilation? Not to me. Paul On Wed, 2009-08-12 at 04:45 +0200, 9.9.9 wrote: > Pavel Fedyakov schrieb: > > Gioele wrote: > > > >> Paul C. Bryan wrote: > >> > >> > >>> Artist intention is hardly going to survive a soundtrack compilation. > >>> And there's precedent for including movie title as prefix. > >>> > >>> > >> There is also a concrete and practical reason: on a single disc one can > >> usually find 3 or 4 tracks named "Main theme" or "Titoli di coda", > >> impossible to tell apart without having the movie title in the track > title. > >> > > > > > > Ok. That's the reason. > > > Maybe we should only add the movie title to such "Main Themes", e.g. > "Superman Main Theme", because on other tracks it would jsut look > strange: "Requiem for a Dream: Winter: Lux Aeterna", "Koyaanisqatsi: > Koyaanisqatsi". > > _______________________________________________ > Musicbrainz-style mailing list > Musicbrainz-style@... > http://lists.musicbrainz.org/mailman/listinfo/musicbrainz-style _______________________________________________ Musicbrainz-style mailing list Musicbrainz-style@... http://lists.musicbrainz.org/mailman/listinfo/musicbrainz-style
	Re: pre-RFC: Soundtrack's track title style by jacobbrett :: Rate this Message: Reply to Author \| View Threaded \| Show Only this Message Pavel Fedyakov wrote: > > Gioele wrote: >> Hello, >> >> right now there are no clear guidelines on how to deal with compilations >> that combine tracks from more than one soundtrack. >> >> The current trend is to name these tracks using the "Movie name: Track >> name" >> template. I like this template and I'd like to put forward a RFC to >> codify >> this behaviour into a guideline. >> >> Any comments? >> > > I object. Any song's title should be the same unless it's an artist's > intention. Relation to particular soundtrack may be reflected by > appropriate AR. > > As an argument, title variation breaks Last.fm statistics. > > _______________________________________________ > Musicbrainz-style mailing list > Musicbrainz-style@... > http://lists.musicbrainz.org/mailman/listinfo/musicbrainz-style > > Agreed. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/pre-RFC%3A-Soundtrack%27s-track-title-style-tp3423332p3431819.html Sent from the Style discussions mailing list archive at Nabble.com. _______________________________________________ Musicbrainz-style mailing list Musicbrainz-style@... http://lists.musicbrainz.org/mailman/listinfo/musicbrainz-style
	Re: pre-RFC: Soundtrack's track title style by Brian Schweitzer :: Rate this Message: Reply to Author \| View Threaded \| Show Only this Message On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 10:45 PM, 9.9.9 <9.9.9@...> wrote: Pavel Fedyakov schrieb: > Gioele wrote: > >> Paul C. Bryan wrote: >> >> >>> Artist intention is hardly going to survive a soundtrack compilation. >>> And there's precedent for including movie title as prefix. >>> >>> >> There is also a concrete and practical reason: on a single disc one can >> usually find 3 or 4 tracks named "Main theme" or "Titoli di coda", >> impossible to tell apart without having the movie title in the track title. >> > > > Ok. That's the reason. > Maybe we should only add the movie title to such "Main Themes", e.g. "Superman Main Theme", because on other tracks it would jsut look strange: "Requiem for a Dream: Winter: Lux Aeterna", "Koyaanisqatsi: Koyaanisqatsi". If you consider the score to a film to be equivalent to a classical opus (and they're both actually quite similar concepts, imho), all we're really doing here is including the opus name. "Requiem for a Dream: Winter: Lux Aeterna" actually goes pretty well toward displaying just this "opus-ness". Even "Koyaanisqatsi: Koyaanisqatsi" isn't all that odd, given "Allegro for Piano: I. Allegro". It's identifying itself as the work titled "Koyaanisqatsi" from the opus titled "Koyaanisqatsi". Actually, this especially holds true for the latter case, as Philip Glass, like Michael Nyman , or even John Williams, also composed "purely classical" works, works composed but not for any soundtrack. I've also run into more than one Philip Glass compilation which included 2 works from the same film, one the self-titled track, one some other track from the film. "Koyaanisqatsi: Koyaanisqatsi" may seem odd by itself, but not when you also have "Koyaanisqatsi: Some other work" on the same release. Brian _______________________________________________ Musicbrainz-style mailing list Musicbrainz-style@... http://lists.musicbrainz.org/mailman/listinfo/musicbrainz-style