problems with upgrade from 0.7 to 2009.4.0 beta on mac

[dtra-3]

hello

i had installed hugin 0.7 on osx 10.5 and it worked great (for the
most part), then upgraded to snow leopard and it continued to work as
it had done. but then yesterday i tried upgrading to the latest beta
as provided at http://panorama.dyndns.org/index.php?lang=en&subject=Hugin&texttag=Hugin

but now the gui doesn't appear as normal (well, it doesn't appear at
all), i only ever used the assistant really, and that whole window
doesn't show up anymore, just the icon in the dock and the menu at the
top. i guess there is something lingering from the original install or
something, but i tried deleting it from the applications directory and
replacing but no difference, is there something else that i need to
delete/clean?

it installed fine on my work computer which is a new imac running snow
leopard.

thanks
david

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[Carl von Einem-2]

Did you by chance use a second screen before?

In your <startup disk> go to
/Users/<your account>/Library/Preferences/
and delete the file "hugin Preferences"
After that just start the application again, that should normally work.

If not, are there any related messages from the console window (in
/Applications/Utilities)? Either console.log, but you could also have a
look at ~/Library/Logs/CrashReporter/Hugin.crash.log

Maybe the Activity Monitor (also in the Utilities folder) can give
you/us a hint...

Carl


dtra wrote:

>
> i had installed hugin 0.7 on osx 10.5 and it worked great (for the
> most part), then upgraded to snow leopard and it continued to work as
> it had done. but then yesterday i tried upgrading to the latest beta
> as provided at http://panorama.dyndns.org/index.php?lang=en&subject=Hugin&texttag=Hugin
>
> but now the gui doesn't appear as normal (well, it doesn't appear at
> all), i only ever used the assistant really, and that whole window
> doesn't show up anymore, just the icon in the dock and the menu at the
> top. i guess there is something lingering from the original install or
> something, but i tried deleting it from the applications directory and
> replacing but no difference, is there something else that i need to
> delete/clean?
>
> it installed fine on my work computer which is a new imac running snow
> leopard.
>

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[dtra-3]

thanks, i did/do use a second monitor (but only when processing
photos), so that was a difference that i didn't think about
looks to be working now
david

On Oct 20, 6:56 pm, Carl von Einem <c...@...> wrote:

> Did you by chance use a second screen before?
>
> In your <startup disk> go to
> /Users/<your account>/Library/Preferences/
> and delete the file "hugin Preferences"
> After that just start the application again, that should normally work.
>
> If not, are there any related messages from the console window (in
> /Applications/Utilities)? Either console.log, but you could also have a
> look at ~/Library/Logs/CrashReporter/Hugin.crash.log
>
> Maybe the Activity Monitor (also in the Utilities folder) can give
> you/us a hint...
>
> Carl
>
> dtra wrote:
>
> > i had installed hugin 0.7 on osx 10.5 and it worked great (for the
> > most part), then upgraded to snow leopard and it continued to work as
> > it had done. but then yesterday i tried upgrading to the latest beta
> > as provided athttp://panorama.dyndns.org/index.php?lang=en&subject=Hugin&texttag=Hugin
>
> > but now the gui doesn't appear as normal (well, it doesn't appear at
> > all), i only ever used the assistant really, and that whole window
> > doesn't show up anymore, just the icon in the dock and the menu at the
> > top. i guess there is something lingering from the original install or
> > something, but i tried deleting it from the applications directory and
> > replacing but no difference, is there something else that i need to
> > delete/clean?
>
> > it installed fine on my work computer which is a new imac running snow
> > leopard.

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[Carl von Einem-2]

The last position and dimension of a window is saved in the Prefs and at
startup there is no query about how much real estate is actually
available on the screen(s). So e.g. after a presentation with a beamer
one has to remember to drag the main and/or preview window back to the
main screen befor the beamer is unplugged from the Notebook, which is a
bit awkward.

I know this also happens to other (commercial) apps from time to time
but I nevertheless consider this as a bug.

Carl

dtra wrote:

> thanks, i did/do use a second monitor (but only when processing
> photos), so that was a difference that i didn't think about
> looks to be working now
> david
>
> On Oct 20, 6:56 pm, Carl von Einem <c...@...> wrote:
>> Did you by chance use a second screen before?
>>
>> In your <startup disk> go to
>> /Users/<your account>/Library/Preferences/
>> and delete the file "hugin Preferences"
>> After that just start the application again, that should normally work.
>>
>> If not, are there any related messages from the console window (in
>> /Applications/Utilities)? Either console.log, but you could also have a
>> look at ~/Library/Logs/CrashReporter/Hugin.crash.log
>>
>> Maybe the Activity Monitor (also in the Utilities folder) can give
>> you/us a hint...
>>
>> Carl
>>
>> dtra wrote:
>>
>>> i had installed hugin 0.7 on osx 10.5 and it worked great (for the
>>> most part), then upgraded to snow leopard and it continued to work as
>>> it had done. but then yesterday i tried upgrading to the latest beta
>>> as provided athttp://panorama.dyndns.org/index.php?lang=en&subject=Hugin&texttag=Hugin
>>> but now the gui doesn't appear as normal (well, it doesn't appear at
>>> all), i only ever used the assistant really, and that whole window
>>> doesn't show up anymore, just the icon in the dock and the menu at the
>>> top. i guess there is something lingering from the original install or
>>> something, but i tried deleting it from the applications directory and
>>> replacing but no difference, is there something else that i need to
>>> delete/clean?
>>> it installed fine on my work computer which is a new imac running snow
>>> leopard.

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[Carl von Einem-2]

I submitted a bug report.
https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=2882419&group_id=77506&atid=550441

Thanks for the description, dtra!

Carl

Carl von Einem wrote:

> The last position and dimension of a window is saved in the Prefs and at
> startup there is no query about how much real estate is actually
> available on the screen(s). So e.g. after a presentation with a beamer
> one has to remember to drag the main and/or preview window back to the
> main screen befor the beamer is unplugged from the Notebook, which is a
> bit awkward.
>
> I know this also happens to other (commercial) apps from time to time
> but I nevertheless consider this as a bug.
>
> Carl
>
> dtra wrote:
>> thanks, i did/do use a second monitor (but only when processing
>> photos), so that was a difference that i didn't think about
>> looks to be working now
>> david
>>
>> On Oct 20, 6:56 pm, Carl von Einem <c...@...> wrote:
>>> Did you by chance use a second screen before?
>>>
>>> In your <startup disk> go to
>>> /Users/<your account>/Library/Preferences/
>>> and delete the file "hugin Preferences"
>>> After that just start the application again, that should normally work.
>>>
>>> If not, are there any related messages from the console window (in
>>> /Applications/Utilities)? Either console.log, but you could also have a
>>> look at ~/Library/Logs/CrashReporter/Hugin.crash.log
>>>
>>> Maybe the Activity Monitor (also in the Utilities folder) can give
>>> you/us a hint...
>>>
>>> Carl
>>>
>>> dtra wrote:
>>>
>>>> i had installed hugin 0.7 on osx 10.5 and it worked great (for the
>>>> most part), then upgraded to snow leopard and it continued to work as
>>>> it had done. but then yesterday i tried upgrading to the latest beta
>>>> as provided athttp://panorama.dyndns.org/index.php?lang=en&subject=Hugin&texttag=Hugin
>>>> but now the gui doesn't appear as normal (well, it doesn't appear at
>>>> all), i only ever used the assistant really, and that whole window
>>>> doesn't show up anymore, just the icon in the dock and the menu at the
>>>> top. i guess there is something lingering from the original install or
>>>> something, but i tried deleting it from the applications directory and
>>>> replacing but no difference, is there something else that i need to
>>>> delete/clean?
>>>> it installed fine on my work computer which is a new imac running snow
>>>> leopard.
>

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[Yuval Levy-6]

Carl von Einem wrote:
> I submitted a bug report.
> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=2882419&group_id=77506&atid=550441
>
> Thanks for the description, dtra!

thanks for the bug report, I'm taking this one on. Should not be too
difficult (last famous words?)

Yuv

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[Yuval Levy-6]

Carl von Einem wrote:
> I submitted a bug report.
> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=2882419&group_id=77506&atid=550441
>
> Thanks for the description, dtra!

ok. should be fixed in trunk but I have no second display to test it
with the dual display test; and I have not tested in Windows and OSX
(but I am pretty much sure it won't crash them).

should this go into the next 2009.4.0 release candidate, or do we leave
it in trunk and release with 2009.6.0? it's borderline between bug and
feature. technically it is a new feature, from a user perspective it's a
bug.

Yuv

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[Carl von Einem-2]

Wow, that was quick :-)

I'd call it a bug but not a critical one. The workround now is simply to
add the Preferences file in a text editor or just delete the file...

Thanks!

Carl

Yuval Levy wrote:

> Carl von Einem wrote:
>> I submitted a bug report.
>> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=2882419&group_id=77506&atid=550441
>>
>> Thanks for the description, dtra!
>
> ok. should be fixed in trunk but I have no second display to test it
> with the dual display test; and I have not tested in Windows and OSX
> (but I am pretty much sure it won't crash them).
>
> should this go into the next 2009.4.0 release candidate, or do we leave
> it in trunk and release with 2009.6.0? it's borderline between bug and
> feature. technically it is a new feature, from a user perspective it's a
> bug.
>
> Yuv
>

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[dtra-3]

i can test it on osx if you like

On Oct 21, 4:49 am, Carl von Einem <c...@...> wrote:

> Wow, that was quick :-)
>
> I'd call it a bug but not a critical one. The workround now is simply to
> add the Preferences file in a text editor or just delete the file...
>
> Thanks!
>
> Carl
>
> Yuval Levy wrote:
> > Carl von Einem wrote:
> >> I submitted a bug report.
> >>https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=2882419&group_id=775...
>
> >> Thanks for the description, dtra!
>
> > ok. should be fixed in trunk but I have no second display to test it
> > with the dual display test; and I have not tested in Windows and OSX
> > (but I am pretty much sure it won't crash them).
>
> > should this go into the next 2009.4.0 release candidate, or do we leave
> > it in trunk and release with 2009.6.0? it's borderline between bug and
> > feature. technically it is a new feature, from a user perspective it's a
> > bug.
>
> > Yuv

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[Rogier Wolff]

On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 01:46:03PM -0400, Yuval Levy wrote:

> should this go into the next 2009.4.0 release candidate, or do we
> leave it in trunk and release with 2009.6.0? it's borderline between
> bug and feature. technically it is a new feature, from a user
> perspective it's a bug.

It's quite difficult to get a window that's "offscreen" dragged back
onscreen. So it makes the app unusable. This counts as a bug.

        Roger.

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[Yuval Levy-6]

Rogier Wolff wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 01:46:03PM -0400, Yuval Levy wrote:
>
>> should this go into the next 2009.4.0 release candidate, or do we
>> leave it in trunk and release with 2009.6.0? it's borderline between
>> bug and feature. technically it is a new feature, from a user
>> perspective it's a bug.
>
> It's quite difficult to get a window that's "offscreen" dragged back
> onscreen. So it makes the app unusable. This counts as a bug.

ok, will add to RC3

Yuv

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[Harry van der Wolf-3]

Hi Yuv,

It builds fine and works fine on OSX. I tried your patch in trunk and checked it.
Then I modified the hugin preferences file and set x/y to 5400/1200 and window size to 12440/8120, which is a factor 100 of position and a factor 10 too large. It nicely fits the window to my screen. don't know where it gets the geometry but it works.

Harry

2009/10/21 Yuval Levy <google@...>

Rogier Wolff wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 01:46:03PM -0400, Yuval Levy wrote:
>
>> should this go into the next 2009.4.0 release candidate, or do we
>> leave it in trunk and release with 2009.6.0? it's borderline between
>> bug and feature. technically it is a new feature, from a user
>> perspective it's a bug.
>
> It's quite difficult to get a window that's "offscreen" dragged back
> onscreen. So it makes the app unusable. This counts as a bug.

ok, will add to RC3

Yuv

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