psuedo plan for project

[Steve Howerton]

Hello
I would like some guidance in planning a project if possible.
I am particularly interested in finding out at what capacity MySQL can be ued in netbeans.  

I ask this because I have a access database designed.  I would like to recreate it as effiently as possible in MySQL. What is the best way to do this?

additionally, I am trying to get the proper installation of netbeans6.1 to do the above mentioned(if possible).
I know enough java programing to be dangerous.(armature extraordinaire at best).

I am focusing on developing a web page with the cs3 and the java and the MySQL.

Furthermore,  I have Createative suite 3  and I have worked with most of the programs in it.

In conclusion,  I am a little confused on the matter of designing flow.  

My plan thus far to design(please correct me.  because this is probably not even close.

create the pages with the cs3 and enable them to have continuity.
then figure out how to implement the java programs that can access the database.

basically, I am confused on the web page navigation and the java web server faces navigation and how to merge the two efficiently.

Any insight would be greatly appreciated.
Thank
-Steve

[HandyGeek]

 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: Steve Howerton <ceyesuma@...>
>
> Hello
> I would like some guidance in planning a project if possible.
> I am particularly interested in finding out at what capacity MySQL can be
> ued in netbeans.  
>
> I ask this because I have a access database designed.  I would like to
> recreate it as effiently as possible in MySQL. What is the best way to do
> this?

I would go into Access, table design view, SQL View, in order to grab the table structure in a Text file.  Then create your tables in mySQL.  A poorly designed Access database will yield a poorly designed mySQL, if you are looking for database efficiency, unfortunately this list is not the place to answer that.  Feel free to contact me off-list if you need more advice on database issues.

>
> additionally, I am trying to get the proper installation of netbeans6.1 to
> do the above mentioned(if possible).
> I know enough java programing to be dangerous.(armature extraordinaire at
> best).
>
There is a lot to know in this environment, for sure.  I have more of a database background and I cringe when I see programmers go through many un-necessary steps in their Java code, when the database would easily handle the problem.  A book called database design for mere mortals was top pick when I was active on the Access newsgroups, highly recommend this.

> I am focusing on developing a web page with the cs3 and the java and the
> MySQL.
It sounds as if you want a web application, therefore NetBeans' visual web designer will fit this nicely.

>
> Furthermore,  I have Createative suite 3  and I have worked with most of the
> programs in it.
>
> In conclusion,  I am a little confused on the matter of designing flow.  
>
> My plan thus far to design(please correct me.  because this is probably not
> even close.
>
> create the pages with the cs3 and enable them to have continuity.
> then figure out how to implement the java programs that can access the
> database.
> basically, I am confused on the web page navigation and the java web server
> faces navigation and how to merge the two efficiently.
>

Look into the Visual Web features of NetBeans.  You can graphically lay out all your flows in page navigation.

/David

> Any insight would be greatly appreciated.
> Thank
> -Steve
> --
> View this message in context:
> http://www.nabble.com/psuedo-plan-for-project-tp17729091p17729091.html
> Sent from the Netbeans - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>

[Oddvard M]

David,

There are a better way, simply install the MYSQL Migration tool and it will
transform your MsAccess database directly to MySql for you. You pick up the
tools from MySql home site. They are references as GUI tools and contain
MySQL Browser, MySQL Administrator, MySQL Migration tool and MySQL
workbench. It is as easy as getting to bed..

http://dev.mysql.com/downloads/gui-tools/5.0.html

Odd

-----Original Message-----
From: thompsonwd40@... [mailto:thompsonwd40@...]
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 3:06 PM
To: nbusers@...
Subject: Re: [nbusers] psuedo plan for project



 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: Steve Howerton <ceyesuma@...>
>
> Hello
> I would like some guidance in planning a project if possible.
> I am particularly interested in finding out at what capacity MySQL can be
> ued in netbeans.
>
> I ask this because I have a access database designed.  I would like to
> recreate it as effiently as possible in MySQL. What is the best way to do
> this?

I would go into Access, table design view, SQL View, in order to grab the
table structure in a Text file.  Then create your tables in mySQL.  A poorly
designed Access database will yield a poorly designed mySQL, if you are
looking for database efficiency, unfortunately this list is not the place to
answer that.  Feel free to contact me off-list if you need more advice on
database issues.

>
> additionally, I am trying to get the proper installation of netbeans6.1 to
> do the above mentioned(if possible).
> I know enough java programing to be dangerous.(armature extraordinaire at
> best).
>
There is a lot to know in this environment, for sure.  I have more of a
database background and I cringe when I see programmers go through many
un-necessary steps in their Java code, when the database would easily handle
the problem.  A book called database design for mere mortals was top pick
when I was active on the Access newsgroups, highly recommend this.

> I am focusing on developing a web page with the cs3 and the java and the
> MySQL.
It sounds as if you want a web application, therefore NetBeans' visual web
designer will fit this nicely.

>
> Furthermore,  I have Createative suite 3  and I have worked with most of
the
> programs in it.
>
> In conclusion,  I am a little confused on the matter of designing flow.
>
> My plan thus far to design(please correct me.  because this is probably
not
> even close.
>
> create the pages with the cs3 and enable them to have continuity.
> then figure out how to implement the java programs that can access the
> database.
> basically, I am confused on the web page navigation and the java web
server
> faces navigation and how to merge the two efficiently.
>
Look into the Visual Web features of NetBeans.  You can graphically lay out
all your flows in page navigation.

/David

> Any insight would be greatly appreciated.
> Thank
> -Steve
> --
> View this message in context:
> http://www.nabble.com/psuedo-plan-for-project-tp17729091p17729091.html
> Sent from the Netbeans - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>

[HandyGeek]

Oddvard,
Sounds excellent.. big thanks for the tip.
/David

 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: Oddvard Myrnes <oddvardm@...>

> David,
>
> There are a better way, simply install the MYSQL Migration tool and it will
> transform your MsAccess database directly to MySql for you. You pick up the
> tools from MySql home site. They are references as GUI tools and contain
> MySQL Browser, MySQL Administrator, MySQL Migration tool and MySQL
> workbench. It is as easy as getting to bed..
>
> http://dev.mysql.com/downloads/gui-tools/5.0.html
>
> Odd
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: thompsonwd40@... [mailto:thompsonwd40@...]
> Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 3:06 PM
> To: nbusers@...
> Subject: Re: [nbusers] psuedo plan for project
>
>
>
>  -------------- Original message ----------------------
> From: Steve Howerton <ceyesuma@...>
> >
> > Hello
> > I would like some guidance in planning a project if possible.
> > I am particularly interested in finding out at what capacity MySQL can be
> > ued in netbeans.
> >
> > I ask this because I have a access database designed.  I would like to
> > recreate it as effiently as possible in MySQL. What is the best way to do
> > this?
>
> I would go into Access, table design view, SQL View, in order to grab the
> table structure in a Text file.  Then create your tables in mySQL.  A poorly
> designed Access database will yield a poorly designed mySQL, if you are
> looking for database efficiency, unfortunately this list is not the place to
> answer that.  Feel free to contact me off-list if you need more advice on
> database issues.
>
> >
> > additionally, I am trying to get the proper installation of netbeans6.1 to
> > do the above mentioned(if possible).
> > I know enough java programing to be dangerous.(armature extraordinaire at
> > best).
> >
> There is a lot to know in this environment, for sure.  I have more of a
> database background and I cringe when I see programmers go through many
> un-necessary steps in their Java code, when the database would easily handle
> the problem.  A book called database design for mere mortals was top pick
> when I was active on the Access newsgroups, highly recommend this.
>
> > I am focusing on developing a web page with the cs3 and the java and the
> > MySQL.
> It sounds as if you want a web application, therefore NetBeans' visual web
> designer will fit this nicely.
>
> >
> > Furthermore,  I have Createative suite 3  and I have worked with most of
> the
> > programs in it.
> >
> > In conclusion,  I am a little confused on the matter of designing flow.
> >
> > My plan thus far to design(please correct me.  because this is probably
> not
> > even close.
> >
> > create the pages with the cs3 and enable them to have continuity.
> > then figure out how to implement the java programs that can access the
> > database.
> > basically, I am confused on the web page navigation and the java web
> server
> > faces navigation and how to merge the two efficiently.
> >
> Look into the Visual Web features of NetBeans.  You can graphically lay out
> all your flows in page navigation.
>
> /David
>
> > Any insight would be greatly appreciated.
> > Thank
> > -Steve
> > --
> > View this message in context:
> > http://www.nabble.com/psuedo-plan-for-project-tp17729091p17729091.html
> > Sent from the Netbeans - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
> >
>

[Johnny Kewl]

----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Howerton" <ceyesuma@...>
To: <nbusers@...>
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 11:14 AM
Subject: [nbusers] psuedo plan for project


>
> Hello
> I would like some guidance in planning a project if possible.
> I am particularly interested in finding out at what capacity MySQL can be
> ued in netbeans.

It can... Sun just bought MySQL, so there is definitely interest ;)
Whether thru JPA, or plain JDBC it shall connect.
However, you will be using a servlet container like Tomcat and normally they
have a way to do that through JNDI which give you the benefit of a dB pool
as well.

> I ask this because I have a access database designed.  I would like to
> recreate it as effiently as possible in MySQL. What is the best way to do
> this?

Get the mySQl conversion wizard and the ODBC driver.
The ODBC driver will allow you to look at the thing through Access, and that
should give you a warm feeling.
Access is  a crap dB... but it is still the best prototyping tool out there,
and it nice to keep it in the equation.
Make a dB -> Export -> link via ODBC and look at it thru Access... thats
what we do.

> additionally, I am trying to get the proper installation of netbeans6.1 to
> do the above mentioned(if possible).
> I know enough java programing to be dangerous.(armature extraordinaire at
> best).

Suggest you stick to NB 5.5 but its a matter of preference and just
realizing that NB 6 is very new and may have a few gotcha's.
Get your servlet container as well, Tomcat has an easy MS installation, and
its nice to have the standalone version.
You tell NB thru the server manager to use it... then when you make a WEB
project, you choose it.

> I am focusing on developing a web page with the cs3 and the java and the
> MySQL.

No problem... JSP pages are essentially HTML with the option of tags like
JSF, or not... so you can either choose to use plain HTML, which for the
most part is drop into the JSP page... or you can go JSF, or struts, or or
or or

This is why this question is actually loaded... every software co out there
has its own thing.
So if you chat to Sun... its use Glassfish... Jboss will have their thing...
Apache will say Tomcat... others will say use struts... Spring guys will
have another plan... but the thing to get is that Adobe and Sun are not
totally on the same page, they have competitive products.

VWP and JSF is suns way.... JSF in Adobe dreamweaver I think is a third
party addon... Adobe is going to punt Flex, not JSF (I guess), Google will
say use GWT... so you see... different strokes and thats why your brain is
taking strain.

My suggestion... if you using competing products, stick to the common
denominator... plain HTML, with CSS and maybe a little Ajax... else throw
dreamweaver away and use VWP, else use Dreamweaver and just plonk the HTML
into JSP pages.... then learn a little about servlet development, thats the
way we do it.
The reason we stick to HTML and core technologies is so we can mix it up...
One guy on Frontpage, another on Dreamweaver, a masochist doing it by hand,
a graphic artist going from photoshop to imageready to html to jsp... etc
etc
Its a choice you have to make... pick a framework and stick to it, or learn
about the core technologies, like HTML, CSS, Ajax, servlets.
We like the learning route... but whatever floats your boat ;)
But... my suggestion... dont try mix frameworks, you'll go mad.
Struts, plus GWT, plus VWP, plus Flex.... would be somewhat of a challenge
;)

The dB is not a biggy... you either going to go for bean driven dB's (JPA)
stuff, or you going to look at the core technology via JDBC and read the
records and populate the web pages yourself... we like the JDBC route but
JPA has its merits.

If you understand the technology, you can actually keep it very simple...
else you choose a framework and just hope you got it right ;)

Good luck... no body can complain about not having enuf choices in Java ;)
One thing you have got right so far... NB is a great tool.

You cant program well in Java if you dont understand a little about the
industry... and there is always a lock in.
Choose carefully... play a lot.

> Furthermore,  I have Createative suite 3  and I have worked with most of
> the
> programs in it.
>
> In conclusion,  I am a little confused on the matter of designing flow.
>
> My plan thus far to design(please correct me.  because this is probably
> not
> even close.
>
> create the pages with the cs3 and enable them to have continuity.
> then figure out how to implement the java programs that can access the
> database.
>
> basically, I am confused on the web page navigation and the java web
> server
> faces navigation and how to merge the two efficiently.
>
> Any insight would be greatly appreciated.
> Thank
> -Steve

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[Steve Howerton]

Thanks.  That clears a lot up.  I will aproach those subject with the tools I have and trial and error until it works.  Great help.
-Steve

[Michel-25]

Used to be that in previous versions of NB I could expand a *.java file to
show the methods and such ... with my installation of  6.1 that is missing.

[Tim Burke-3]

Michel

There is still a navigation window.  I don't know the shortcut, but it
is in the Windows drop down, I think.

michel wrote:
> Used to be that in previous versions of NB I could expand a *.java file
> to show the methods and such ... with my installation of  6.1 that is
> missing.
>
>
>
>

--
Tim Burke
[phone] - home
t.burke@...

[Steve Howerton]

Man! that migration tool worked like a dream.  I am using the command line MySQL is there something with a GUI interface to make additional creation easier?
Thanks again.
-Steve

Oddvard M wrote:

David,

There are a better way, simply install the MYSQL Migration tool and it will
transform your MsAccess database directly to MySql for you. You pick up the
tools from MySql home site. They are references as GUI tools and contain
MySQL Browser, MySQL Administrator, MySQL Migration tool and MySQL
workbench. It is as easy as getting to bed..

http://dev.mysql.com/downloads/gui-tools/5.0.html

Odd

-----Original Message-----
From: [e-mail] [mailto:[e-mail]]
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 3:06 PM
To: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: [nbusers] psuedo plan for project



 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: Steve Howerton <[e-mail]>
>
> Hello
> I would like some guidance in planning a project if possible.
> I am particularly interested in finding out at what capacity MySQL can be
> ued in netbeans.
>
> I ask this because I have a access database designed.  I would like to
> recreate it as effiently as possible in MySQL. What is the best way to do
> this?

I would go into Access, table design view, SQL View, in order to grab the
table structure in a Text file.  Then create your tables in mySQL.  A poorly
designed Access database will yield a poorly designed mySQL, if you are
looking for database efficiency, unfortunately this list is not the place to
answer that.  Feel free to contact me off-list if you need more advice on
database issues.

>
> additionally, I am trying to get the proper installation of netbeans6.1 to
> do the above mentioned(if possible).
> I know enough java programing to be dangerous.(armature extraordinaire at
> best).
>
There is a lot to know in this environment, for sure.  I have more of a
database background and I cringe when I see programmers go through many
un-necessary steps in their Java code, when the database would easily handle
the problem.  A book called database design for mere mortals was top pick
when I was active on the Access newsgroups, highly recommend this.

> I am focusing on developing a web page with the cs3 and the java and the
> MySQL.
It sounds as if you want a web application, therefore NetBeans' visual web
designer will fit this nicely.

>
> Furthermore,  I have Createative suite 3  and I have worked with most of
the
> programs in it.
>
> In conclusion,  I am a little confused on the matter of designing flow.
>
> My plan thus far to design(please correct me.  because this is probably
not
> even close.
>
> create the pages with the cs3 and enable them to have continuity.
> then figure out how to implement the java programs that can access the
> database.
> basically, I am confused on the web page navigation and the java web
server
> faces navigation and how to merge the two efficiently.
>
Look into the Visual Web features of NetBeans.  You can graphically lay out
all your flows in page navigation.

/David

> Any insight would be greatly appreciated.
> Thank
> -Steve
> --
> View this message in context:
> http://www.nabble.com/psuedo-plan-for-project-tp17729091p17729091.html
> Sent from the Netbeans - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>

[HandyGeek]

There is indeed a mySQL GUI interface.  Oddvard showed it to me over a year ago, I downloaded it from somewhere, and I was very impressed with it.  Unfortunately, I am focused on Oracle, so that is as far as I went with it.  Keep looking, it is out on the mySQL site somewhere.  And congratulations on getting NetBeans running! /David

Steve Howerton wrote:

Man! that migration tool worked like a dream.  I am using the command line
MySQL is there something with a GUI interface to make additional creation
easier?
Thanks again.
-Steve

Oddvard M wrote:
  

David,

There are a better way, simply install the MYSQL Migration tool and it
will
transform your MsAccess database directly to MySql for you. You pick up
the
tools from MySql home site. They are references as GUI tools and contain
MySQL Browser, MySQL Administrator, MySQL Migration tool and MySQL
workbench. It is as easy as getting to bed..

http://dev.mysql.com/downloads/gui-tools/5.0.html

Odd

-----Original Message-----
From: thompsonwd40@... [thompsonwd40@...]
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 3:06 PM
To: nbusers@...
Subject: Re: [nbusers] psuedo plan for project



 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: Steve Howerton ceyesuma@...
    

Hello
I would like some guidance in planning a project if possible.
I am particularly interested in finding out at what capacity MySQL can be
ued in netbeans.

I ask this because I have a access database designed.  I would like to
recreate it as effiently as possible in MySQL. What is the best way to do
this?
      

I would go into Access, table design view, SQL View, in order to grab the
table structure in a Text file.  Then create your tables in mySQL.  A
poorly
designed Access database will yield a poorly designed mySQL, if you are
looking for database efficiency, unfortunately this list is not the place
to
answer that.  Feel free to contact me off-list if you need more advice on
database issues.

    

additionally, I am trying to get the proper installation of netbeans6.1
to
do the above mentioned(if possible).
I know enough java programing to be dangerous.(armature extraordinaire at
best).

      

There is a lot to know in this environment, for sure.  I have more of a
database background and I cringe when I see programmers go through many
un-necessary steps in their Java code, when the database would easily
handle
the problem.  A book called database design for mere mortals was top pick
when I was active on the Access newsgroups, highly recommend this.

    

I am focusing on developing a web page with the cs3 and the java and the
MySQL.
      

It sounds as if you want a web application, therefore NetBeans' visual web
designer will fit this nicely.

    

Furthermore,  I have Createative suite 3  and I have worked with most of
      

the
    

programs in it.

In conclusion,  I am a little confused on the matter of designing flow.

My plan thus far to design(please correct me.  because this is probably
      

not
    

even close.

create the pages with the cs3 and enable them to have continuity.
then figure out how to implement the java programs that can access the
database.
basically, I am confused on the web page navigation and the java web
      

server
    

faces navigation and how to merge the two efficiently.

      

Look into the Visual Web features of NetBeans.  You can graphically lay
out
all your flows in page navigation.

/David

    

Any insight would be greatly appreciated.
Thank
-Steve
--
View this message in context:
http://www.nabble.com/psuedo-plan-for-project-tp17729091p17729091.html
Sent from the Netbeans - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

      

[Vaughn Spurlin-2]

In the Projects window select a *.java file. In the menu choose Window > Navigating > Navigator.
Vaughn

----- Original Message ----
From: Tim Burke <burket1@...>
To: nbusers@...
Sent: Monday, June 9, 2008 5:45:07 PM
Subject: Re: [nbusers] No more methods in the window?

Michel

There is still a navigation window.  I don't know the shortcut, but it
is in the Windows drop down, I think.

michel wrote:
> Used to be that in previous versions of NB I could expand a *.java file
> to show the methods and such ... with my installation of  6.1 that is
> missing.
>
>
>
>

--
Tim Burke
[phone] - home
t.burke@...

[Michel-25]

Thanks, it works! Gotta wonder why they changed it from being obvious to
being obscure ...



----- Original Message -----
From: "Vaughn Spurlin" <spurdyne@...>
To: <nbusers@...>
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 10:47 PM
Subject: Re: [nbusers] No more methods in the window?


In the Projects window select a *.java file. In the menu choose Window >
Navigating > Navigator.
Vaughn

----- Original Message ----
From: Tim Burke <burket1@...>
To: nbusers@...
Sent: Monday, June 9, 2008 5:45:07 PM
Subject: Re: [nbusers] No more methods in the window?

Michel

There is still a navigation window. I don't know the shortcut, but it
is in the Windows drop down, I think.

michel wrote:
> Used to be that in previous versions of NB I could expand a *.java file
> to show the methods and such ... with my installation of 6.1 that is
> missing.
>
>
>
>

--
Tim Burke
[phone] - home
t.burke@...

[Vaughn Spurlin-2]

The underlying mechanism for keeping track of Java source metadata underwent major changes with NetBeans 6.0. Earlier, the IDE parsed Java source separately from the Java compiler. Now, the IDE uses the Java compiler's parsing mechanism and resulting metadata. That was a big improvement in many ways. But the change in metadata structure required major changes to some features, including the presentation of Java methods and class properties.
Vaughn

----- Original Message ----
From: michel <compukat@...>
To: nbusers@...
Sent: Monday, June 9, 2008 8:01:44 PM
Subject: Re: [nbusers] No more methods in the window?


Thanks, it works! Gotta wonder why they changed it from being obvious to
being obscure ...



----- Original Message -----
From: "Vaughn Spurlin" <spurdyne@...>
To: <nbusers@...>
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 10:47 PM
Subject: Re: [nbusers] No more methods in the window?


In the Projects window select a *.java file. In the menu choose Window >
Navigating > Navigator.
Vaughn

----- Original Message ----
From: Tim Burke <burket1@...>
To: nbusers@...
Sent: Monday, June 9, 2008 5:45:07 PM
Subject: Re: [nbusers] No more methods in the window?

Michel

There is still a navigation window. I don't know the shortcut, but it
is in the Windows drop down, I think.

michel wrote:
> Used to be that in previous versions of NB I could expand a *.java file
> to show the methods and such ... with my installation of 6.1 that is
> missing.
>
>
>
>

--
Tim Burke
[phone] - home
t.burke@...

[Steve Howerton]

Thanks but everything was good for a minute however as I began a design view and a drag and drop from the palette.  There was nothing there.  But when I changed to the Java(bean) view the palette was populated.
I have a lot of stuff to learn.  I wish I could get netbeans to work.
have a good night I will be back at it in a few hours.
-Steve

HandyGeek wrote:

There is indeed a mySQL GUI interface.  Oddvard showed it to me over a
year ago, I downloaded it from somewhere, and I was very impressed with
it.  Unfortunately, I am focused on Oracle, so that is as far as I went
with it.  Keep looking, it is out on the mySQL site somewhere.  And
congratulations on getting NetBeans running! /David

Steve Howerton wrote:
> Man! that migration tool worked like a dream.  I am using the command line
> MySQL is there something with a GUI interface to make additional creation
> easier?
> Thanks again.
> -Steve
>
> Oddvard M wrote:
>  
>> David,
>>
>> There are a better way, simply install the MYSQL Migration tool and it
>> will
>> transform your MsAccess database directly to MySql for you. You pick up
>> the
>> tools from MySql home site. They are references as GUI tools and contain
>> MySQL Browser, MySQL Administrator, MySQL Migration tool and MySQL
>> workbench. It is as easy as getting to bed..
>>
>> http://dev.mysql.com/downloads/gui-tools/5.0.html
>>
>> Odd
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [e-mail] [mailto:[e-mail]]
>> Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 3:06 PM
>> To: [e-mail]
>> Subject: Re: [nbusers] psuedo plan for project
>>
>>
>>
>>  -------------- Original message ----------------------
>> From: Steve Howerton <[e-mail]>
>>    
>>> Hello
>>> I would like some guidance in planning a project if possible.
>>> I am particularly interested in finding out at what capacity MySQL can be
>>> ued in netbeans.
>>>
>>> I ask this because I have a access database designed.  I would like to
>>> recreate it as effiently as possible in MySQL. What is the best way to do
>>> this?
>>>      
>> I would go into Access, table design view, SQL View, in order to grab the
>> table structure in a Text file.  Then create your tables in mySQL.  A
>> poorly
>> designed Access database will yield a poorly designed mySQL, if you are
>> looking for database efficiency, unfortunately this list is not the place
>> to
>> answer that.  Feel free to contact me off-list if you need more advice on
>> database issues.
>>
>>    
>>> additionally, I am trying to get the proper installation of netbeans6.1
>>> to
>>> do the above mentioned(if possible).
>>> I know enough java programing to be dangerous.(armature extraordinaire at
>>> best).
>>>
>>>      
>> There is a lot to know in this environment, for sure.  I have more of a
>> database background and I cringe when I see programmers go through many
>> un-necessary steps in their Java code, when the database would easily
>> handle
>> the problem.  A book called database design for mere mortals was top pick
>> when I was active on the Access newsgroups, highly recommend this.
>>
>>    
>>> I am focusing on developing a web page with the cs3 and the java and the
>>> MySQL.
>>>      
>> It sounds as if you want a web application, therefore NetBeans' visual web
>> designer will fit this nicely.
>>
>>    
>>> Furthermore,  I have Createative suite 3  and I have worked with most of
>>>      
>> the
>>    
>>> programs in it.
>>>
>>> In conclusion,  I am a little confused on the matter of designing flow.
>>>
>>> My plan thus far to design(please correct me.  because this is probably
>>>      
>> not
>>    
>>> even close.
>>>
>>> create the pages with the cs3 and enable them to have continuity.
>>> then figure out how to implement the java programs that can access the
>>> database.
>>> basically, I am confused on the web page navigation and the java web
>>>      
>> server
>>    
>>> faces navigation and how to merge the two efficiently.
>>>
>>>      
>> Look into the Visual Web features of NetBeans.  You can graphically lay
>> out
>> all your flows in page navigation.
>>
>> /David
>>
>>    
>>> Any insight would be greatly appreciated.
>>> Thank
>>> -Steve
>>> --
>>> View this message in context:
>>> http://www.nabble.com/psuedo-plan-for-project-tp17729091p17729091.html
>>> Sent from the Netbeans - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>>>
>>>      
>>
>>    
>
>  

[Oddvard M]

Stev & David,

Yes, NB is a magic tool, but it is not an easy journey you have embarked on.
Both David and I have spent many hours on the 'job' getting it to work
properly. Dependent on your experience with web oriented technology you have
a steep learning curve infront of you. I suggest that you follow Johnny's
advice and play a lot before you start on a 'real' project. Use 6.1, but
keep in mind Johnny's advice regarding  dangerous bugs that may linger in
this new 'out of the oven' hot release. Keep frequent backups and make sure
that your system has the latest Java JDK on it.

Regarding GUI tools for MySQL. When you downloaded the GUI tools, you
downloaded a suite of applications. One of them is the 'MySQL Query
Browser'. With this tool you can design scripts for triggers, views, stored
procedures and whatever. You can also use it for editing data, browsing data
etc. Very good tool.

Good luck with it and stay on the list...:-)

Oddvard

-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Howerton [mailto:ceyesuma@...]
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 6:44 AM
To: nbusers@...
Subject: Re: [nbusers] psuedo plan for project



Thanks but everything was good for a minute however as I began a design view
and a drag and drop from the palette.  There was nothing there.  But when I
changed to the Java(bean) view the palette was populated.
I have a lot of stuff to learn.  I wish I could get netbeans to work.
have a good night I will be back at it in a few hours.
-Steve


HandyGeek wrote:

>
> There is indeed a mySQL GUI interface.  Oddvard showed it to me over a
> year ago, I downloaded it from somewhere, and I was very impressed with
> it.  Unfortunately, I am focused on Oracle, so that is as far as I went
> with it.  Keep looking, it is out on the mySQL site somewhere.  And
> congratulations on getting NetBeans running! /David
>
> Steve Howerton wrote:
>> Man! that migration tool worked like a dream.  I am using the command
>> line
>> MySQL is there something with a GUI interface to make additional creation
>> easier?
>> Thanks again.
>> -Steve
>>
>> Oddvard M wrote:
>>
>>> David,
>>>
>>> There are a better way, simply install the MYSQL Migration tool and it
>>> will
>>> transform your MsAccess database directly to MySql for you. You pick up
>>> the
>>> tools from MySql home site. They are references as GUI tools and contain
>>> MySQL Browser, MySQL Administrator, MySQL Migration tool and MySQL
>>> workbench. It is as easy as getting to bed..
>>>
>>> http://dev.mysql.com/downloads/gui-tools/5.0.html
>>>
>>> Odd
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: thompsonwd40@... [mailto:thompsonwd40@...]
>>> Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 3:06 PM
>>> To: nbusers@...
>>> Subject: Re: [nbusers] psuedo plan for project
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  -------------- Original message ----------------------
>>> From: Steve Howerton <ceyesuma@...>
>>>
>>>> Hello
>>>> I would like some guidance in planning a project if possible.
>>>> I am particularly interested in finding out at what capacity MySQL can
>>>> be
>>>> ued in netbeans.
>>>>
>>>> I ask this because I have a access database designed.  I would like to
>>>> recreate it as effiently as possible in MySQL. What is the best way to
>>>> do
>>>> this?
>>>>
>>> I would go into Access, table design view, SQL View, in order to grab
>>> the
>>> table structure in a Text file.  Then create your tables in mySQL.  A
>>> poorly
>>> designed Access database will yield a poorly designed mySQL, if you are
>>> looking for database efficiency, unfortunately this list is not the
>>> place
>>> to
>>> answer that.  Feel free to contact me off-list if you need more advice
>>> on
>>> database issues.
>>>
>>>
>>>> additionally, I am trying to get the proper installation of netbeans6.1
>>>> to
>>>> do the above mentioned(if possible).
>>>> I know enough java programing to be dangerous.(armature extraordinaire
>>>> at
>>>> best).
>>>>
>>>>
>>> There is a lot to know in this environment, for sure.  I have more of a
>>> database background and I cringe when I see programmers go through many
>>> un-necessary steps in their Java code, when the database would easily
>>> handle
>>> the problem.  A book called database design for mere mortals was top
>>> pick
>>> when I was active on the Access newsgroups, highly recommend this.
>>>
>>>
>>>> I am focusing on developing a web page with the cs3 and the java and
>>>> the
>>>> MySQL.
>>>>
>>> It sounds as if you want a web application, therefore NetBeans' visual
>>> web
>>> designer will fit this nicely.
>>>
>>>
>>>> Furthermore,  I have Createative suite 3  and I have worked with most
>>>> of
>>>>
>>> the
>>>
>>>> programs in it.
>>>>
>>>> In conclusion,  I am a little confused on the matter of designing flow.
>>>>
>>>> My plan thus far to design(please correct me.  because this is probably
>>>>
>>> not
>>>
>>>> even close.
>>>>
>>>> create the pages with the cs3 and enable them to have continuity.
>>>> then figure out how to implement the java programs that can access the
>>>> database.
>>>> basically, I am confused on the web page navigation and the java web
>>>>
>>> server
>>>
>>>> faces navigation and how to merge the two efficiently.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Look into the Visual Web features of NetBeans.  You can graphically lay
>>> out
>>> all your flows in page navigation.
>>>
>>> /David
>>>
>>>
>>>> Any insight would be greatly appreciated.
>>>> Thank
>>>> -Steve
>>>> --
>>>> View this message in context:
>>>> http://www.nabble.com/psuedo-plan-for-project-tp17729091p17729091.html
>>>> Sent from the Netbeans - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

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