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pwgl-users: KSQuant and simple2score

by Javier Torres Maldonado :: Rate this Message:

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Hi,

I am using simple2score function from KSQuant library and I found a singular feature, I don't know if I am not understand something.

I am searching to obtain both the original and the retrograde of a rythmic sequence from a list of 13 durations. Generating a list of 14 off-set values from a dx->x function starting from zero, I need to repeat the last value in the list to obtain the correct sequence of 13 notes. It is a little extrange because if I have added an off-set of zero, I can't understand why I need to add the last value two consecutive times -indeed I lost always the last note-.
 
I send the original patch.

Thanks for any answer.

Best,

Javier

Javier Torres Maldonado






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Re: pwgl-users: KSQuant and simple2score

by Kilian Sprotte-3 :: Rate this Message:

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Hi,

very nice coloring in your patch! :)

Your are making a small mistake with the simple-format.
For your example it should be like this:

((0 :NOTES (74)) (3.24 :NOTES (73)) (6.099 :NOTES (69)) (8.594 :NOTES
(65)) (10.742 :NOTES (71)) (12.563 :NOTES (67)) (14.076 :NOTES (67))
(15.302 :NOTES (71)) (16.265 :NOTES (69)) (16.988999 :NOTES (66))
(17.502999 :NOTES (67)) (17.839999 :NOTES (68)) (18.039999 :NOTES
(65)) 18.164999)

Note the last element in the list that is only a number for marking
the end time of the voice.

There is a box that can produce this automatically from your data, so
I am sending you a patch
with an added pitches-durs2simple box.

Cheers,
  Kilian


On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 2:16 PM, Javier Torres Maldonado
<javiertorres@...> wrote:

> Hi,
> I am using simple2score function from KSQuant library and I found a singular
> feature, I don't know if I am not understand something.
> I am searching to obtain both the original and the retrograde of a rythmic
> sequence from a list of 13 durations. Generating a list of 14 off-set values
> from a dx->x function starting from zero, I need to repeat the last value in
> the list to obtain the correct sequence of 13 notes. It is a little extrange
> because if I have added an off-set of zero, I can't understand why I need to
> add the last value two consecutive times -indeed I lost always the last
> note-.
>
> I send the original patch.
> Thanks for any answer.
> Best,
> Javier
>
> Javier Torres Maldonado
> http://www.torresmaldonado.net/
>
>
>
>
>


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Re: pwgl-users: KSQuant and simple2score

by Javier Torres Maldonado :: Rate this Message:

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Hi Kilian,


Many thanks for your time and kind answer. Please, excuse me if I am making a little noise on KSQuant library; I find it really useful.

Oh, yes, I can understand now! It is really "simple-to-scoring" with "pitches-dur2simpe" ;-)

Many thanks again.


Cheers,

Javier

Javier Torres Maldonado





Il giorno 30/giu/08, alle ore 11:31, Kilian Sprotte ha scritto:

Hi,

very nice coloring in your patch! :)

Your are making a small mistake with the simple-format.
For your example it should be like this:

((0 :NOTES (74)) (3.24 :NOTES (73)) (6.099 :NOTES (69)) (8.594 :NOTES
(65)) (10.742 :NOTES (71)) (12.563 :NOTES (67)) (14.076 :NOTES (67))
(15.302 :NOTES (71)) (16.265 :NOTES (69)) (16.988999 :NOTES (66))
(17.502999 :NOTES (67)) (17.839999 :NOTES (68)) (18.039999 :NOTES
(65)) 18.164999)

Note the last element in the list that is only a number for marking
the end time of the voice.

There is a box that can produce this automatically from your data, so
I am sending you a patch
with an added pitches-durs2simple box.

Cheers,
  Kilian


On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 2:16 PM, Javier Torres Maldonado
Hi,
I am using simple2score function from KSQuant library and I found a singular
feature, I don't know if I am not understand something.
I am searching to obtain both the original and the retrograde of a rythmic
sequence from a list of 13 durations. Generating a list of 14 off-set values
from a dx->x function starting from zero, I need to repeat the last value in
the list to obtain the correct sequence of 13 notes. It is a little extrange
because if I have added an off-set of zero, I can't understand why I need to
add the last value two consecutive times -indeed I lost always the last
note-.

I send the original patch.
Thanks for any answer.
Best,
Javier

Javier Torres Maldonado





<03_voz.pwgl>


Re: pwgl-users: KSQuant and simple2score

by Kilian Sprotte-3 :: Rate this Message:

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Hi Javier,

you are welcome. Of course, you could achieve the same effect also
by using the pwgl-map like in your first patch - and you might need to do
this if you want to do more complicated things like adding expressions to
the simple-format. - Well, it should work also, just pay attention to this last
end-time value...

Best,
  Kilian

On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 12:30 PM, Javier Torres Maldonado
<javiertorres@...> wrote:

> Hi Kilian,
>
> Many thanks for your time and kind answer. Please, excuse me if I am making
> a little noise on KSQuant library; I find it really useful.
> Oh, yes, I can understand now! It is really "simple-to-scoring" with
> "pitches-dur2simpe" ;-)
> Many thanks again.
>
> Cheers,
> Javier
> Javier Torres Maldonado
>  http://www.torresmaldonado.net/
>
>
>
>
> Il giorno 30/giu/08, alle ore 11:31, Kilian Sprotte ha scritto:
>
> Hi,
> very nice coloring in your patch! :)
> Your are making a small mistake with the simple-format.
> For your example it should be like this:
> ((0 :NOTES (74)) (3.24 :NOTES (73)) (6.099 :NOTES (69)) (8.594 :NOTES
> (65)) (10.742 :NOTES (71)) (12.563 :NOTES (67)) (14.076 :NOTES (67))
> (15.302 :NOTES (71)) (16.265 :NOTES (69)) (16.988999 :NOTES (66))
> (17.502999 :NOTES (67)) (17.839999 :NOTES (68)) (18.039999 :NOTES
> (65)) 18.164999)
> Note the last element in the list that is only a number for marking
> the end time of the voice.
> There is a box that can produce this automatically from your data, so
> I am sending you a patch
> with an added pitches-durs2simple box.
> Cheers,
>   Kilian
>
> On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 2:16 PM, Javier Torres Maldonado
> <javiertorres@...> wrote:
>
> Hi,
> I am using simple2score function from KSQuant library and I found a singular
> feature, I don't know if I am not understand something.
> I am searching to obtain both the original and the retrograde of a rythmic
> sequence from a list of 13 durations. Generating a list of 14 off-set values
> from a dx->x function starting from zero, I need to repeat the last value in
> the list to obtain the correct sequence of 13 notes. It is a little extrange
> because if I have added an off-set of zero, I can't understand why I need to
> add the last value two consecutive times -indeed I lost always the last
> note-.
> I send the original patch.
> Thanks for any answer.
> Best,
> Javier
> Javier Torres Maldonado
> http://www.torresmaldonado.net/
>
>
>
>
> <03_voz.pwgl>
>

Re: pwgl-users: KSQuant and simple2score

by Javier Torres Maldonado :: Rate this Message:

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Hi Killian,

Many thanks again for your answer. 
Yes, I have understood the necessary syntax. Well, indeed in this moment I am searching to understand how to work with rythm in PWGL; I find that the tutorials of PWGL are not really clear about the syntax needed to work correctly with evrey different object included and the documentation is not enough, of course, so KSQuant is an excellent help. 
Thanks again for your help.

Cheers,

Javier

Javier Torres Maldonado


Il giorno 30/giu/08, alle ore 12:45, Kilian Sprotte ha scritto:

Hi Javier,

you are welcome. Of course, you could achieve the same effect also
by using the pwgl-map like in your first patch - and you might need to do
this if you want to do more complicated things like adding expressions to
the simple-format. - Well, it should work also, just pay attention to this last
end-time value...

Best,
  Kilian

On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 12:30 PM, Javier Torres Maldonado
Hi Kilian,

Many thanks for your time and kind answer. Please, excuse me if I am making
a little noise on KSQuant library; I find it really useful.
Oh, yes, I can understand now! It is really "simple-to-scoring" with
"pitches-dur2simpe" ;-)
Many thanks again.

Cheers,
Javier
Javier Torres Maldonado




Il giorno 30/giu/08, alle ore 11:31, Kilian Sprotte ha scritto:

Hi,
very nice coloring in your patch! :)
Your are making a small mistake with the simple-format.
For your example it should be like this:
((0 :NOTES (74)) (3.24 :NOTES (73)) (6.099 :NOTES (69)) (8.594 :NOTES
(65)) (10.742 :NOTES (71)) (12.563 :NOTES (67)) (14.076 :NOTES (67))
(15.302 :NOTES (71)) (16.265 :NOTES (69)) (16.988999 :NOTES (66))
(17.502999 :NOTES (67)) (17.839999 :NOTES (68)) (18.039999 :NOTES
(65)) 18.164999)
Note the last element in the list that is only a number for marking
the end time of the voice.
There is a box that can produce this automatically from your data, so
I am sending you a patch
with an added pitches-durs2simple box.
Cheers,
  Kilian

On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 2:16 PM, Javier Torres Maldonado

Hi,
I am using simple2score function from KSQuant library and I found a singular
feature, I don't know if I am not understand something.
I am searching to obtain both the original and the retrograde of a rythmic
sequence from a list of 13 durations. Generating a list of 14 off-set values
from a dx->x function starting from zero, I need to repeat the last value in
the list to obtain the correct sequence of 13 notes. It is a little extrange
because if I have added an off-set of zero, I can't understand why I need to
add the last value two consecutive times -indeed I lost always the last
note-.
I send the original patch.
Thanks for any answer.
Best,
Javier
Javier Torres Maldonado




<03_voz.pwgl>