pythonw.exe under Windows-7 (Won't run for one admin user)

[SD_V897]

I have a perplexing issue, I have four users set up on a W7 computer.
The program runs fine for all users except the admin user who needs it
for school assignments.

It's not a firewall issue as I've added localhost for pythomw.exe as allow.

I've done some data dumps using sysinternals process monitor and the
working users create a 7.8mb dump file and the file for the broken user
is only 1.04mb. I can send the zipped data dumps (XML) 384kb if someone
could have a look.

Python 2.6

Thanks
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[Rhodri James]

On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 16:00:16 -0000, SD_V897 <SD_V897@...> wrote:

> I have a perplexing issue, I have four users set up on a W7 computer.  
> The program runs fine for all users except the admin user who needs it  
> for school assignments.

A little more information, please.  How does it not work for the admin
user?  Is there a traceback?  What do you get if you try to invoke it
 from a command line?

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[SD_V897]

Rhodri James wrote:

> On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 16:00:16 -0000, SD_V897 <SD_V897@...> wrote:
>
>> I have a perplexing issue, I have four users set up on a W7 computer.
>> The program runs fine for all users except the admin user who needs it
>> for school assignments.
>
> A little more information, please.  How does it not work for the admin
> user?  Is there a traceback?  What do you get if you try to invoke it
> from a command line?
>

Hi Rhodri, here's a dump file, don't know if this helps or not..

Thanks

SD

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ReportDescription=A problem caused this program to stop interacting with
Windows.
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[SD_V897]

Dennis Lee Bieber wrote:

> On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 21:19:44 GMT, SD_V897 <SD_V897@...>
> declaimed the following in gmane.comp.python.general:
>
>> AppPath=C:\Program Files\Utilities\Python Scripting v2.62\pythonw.exe
>
> That's an interesting path... Did the install path for Python (from
> either python.org or activestate) change that much from 2.5.x, or is
> that a custom install path (and is it the same path for the accounts it
> works in). Especially as there is no "v2.62" to my knowledge... a 2.6.2,
> OTOH...
>
> Now... I did change the upper level directory for mine (E:\; my C:
> partition is rather packed, and I tend to install a lot of packages from
> my user account), but the installer named top level was
> "\Python25\pythonw.exe"
>
>

I've added the folder directory to my PATH statement and also tried
installing to the root but it doesn't make a difference. The 2.62 should
be 2.64 my bad..

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[Rhodri James]

On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 21:19:44 -0000, SD_V897 <SD_V897@...> wrote:

> Rhodri James wrote:
>> On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 16:00:16 -0000, SD_V897 <SD_V897@...>  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I have a perplexing issue, I have four users set up on a W7 computer.  
>>> The program runs fine for all users except the admin user who needs it  
>>> for school assignments.
>>  A little more information, please.  How does it not work for the admin
>> user?  Is there a traceback?  What do you get if you try to invoke it
>> from a command line?
>>
>
>
> Hi Rhodri, here's a dump file, don't know if this helps or not..

So Windows is reporting a crash, then.  I'll repeat my last question in  
particular; what happens when your admin user runs the program you're  
trying to invoke from the command line?

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[SD_V897]

Rhodri James wrote:

> On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 21:19:44 -0000, SD_V897 <SD_V897@...> wrote:
>
>> Rhodri James wrote:
>>> On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 16:00:16 -0000, SD_V897 <SD_V897@...>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I have a perplexing issue, I have four users set up on a W7
>>>> computer. The program runs fine for all users except the admin user
>>>> who needs it for school assignments.
>>>  A little more information, please.  How does it not work for the admin
>>> user?  Is there a traceback?  What do you get if you try to invoke it
>>> from a command line?
>>>
>>
>>
>> Hi Rhodri, here's a dump file, don't know if this helps or not..
>
> So Windows is reporting a crash, then.  I'll repeat my last question in
> particular; what happens when your admin user runs the program you're
> trying to invoke from the command line?
>

Hi Rhodri, Python Command-Line works fine. Are toy recommending to
invoke IDLE from there or from windows command line? Sorry I'm not to up
on Python is there a command that would run IDLE from command?

If I run idle.py -c -d

I get idle is not defined.

Thanks
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[Rhodri James]

On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 15:39:46 -0000, SD_V897 <SD_V897@...> wrote:

> Rhodri James wrote:
>> On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 21:19:44 -0000, SD_V897 <SD_V897@...>  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Rhodri James wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 16:00:16 -0000, SD_V897 <SD_V897@...>  
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I have a perplexing issue, I have four users set up on a W7  
>>>>> computer. The program runs fine for all users except the admin user  
>>>>> who needs it for school assignments.
>>>>  A little more information, please.  How does it not work for the  
>>>> admin
>>>> user?  Is there a traceback?  What do you get if you try to invoke it
>>>> from a command line?
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Rhodri, here's a dump file, don't know if this helps or not..
>>  So Windows is reporting a crash, then.  I'll repeat my last question  
>> in particular; what happens when your admin user runs the program  
>> you're trying to invoke from the command line?
>>
>
> Hi Rhodri, Python Command-Line works fine.

I'm sure it does.  That's not what I asked you.

> Are toy recommending to invoke IDLE from there or from windows command  
> line?

No, I'm asking you -- or rather your admin user -- to invoke the program  
that is giving you grief from the command line, i.e. "python myscript.py",  
and tell me what happens.  "It doesn't work" won't be considered at all  
helpful; without details we might as well just print out your script,  
throw darts at it, and tell you the problem is where the darts land.

The rest of your answer however suggests that I've fundamentally  
misunderstood what you've said.  Please tell me *exactly* what happens  
when it doesn't "run fine" for your admin user.

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[SD_V897]

Rhodri James wrote:
> On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 15:39:46 -0000, SD_V897 <SD_V897@...> wrote:

> No, I'm asking you -- or rather your admin user -- to invoke the program
> that is giving you grief from the command line, i.e. "python
> myscript.py", and tell me what happens.  "It doesn't work" won't be
> considered at all helpful; without details we might as well just print
> out your script, throw darts at it, and tell you the problem is where
> the darts land.
>
> The rest of your answer however suggests that I've fundamentally
> misunderstood what you've said.  Please tell me *exactly* what happens
> when it doesn't "run fine" for your admin user.
>

I fixed it for some reason deleting my idlerc folder allows it to work
again..

http://bugs.python.org/issue7206

Thanks everybody..

SD
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[Rhodri James]

On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 04:51:38 -0000, SD_V897 <SD_V897@...> wrote:

>
> Rhodri James wrote:
>> On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 15:39:46 -0000, SD_V897 <SD_V897@...>  
>> wrote:
>
>> No, I'm asking you -- or rather your admin user -- to invoke the  
>> program that is giving you grief from the command line, i.e. "python  
>> myscript.py", and tell me what happens.  "It doesn't work" won't be  
>> considered at all helpful; without details we might as well just print  
>> out your script, throw darts at it, and tell you the problem is where  
>> the darts land.
>>  The rest of your answer however suggests that I've fundamentally  
>> misunderstood what you've said.  Please tell me *exactly* what happens  
>> when it doesn't "run fine" for your admin user.
>>
>
> I fixed it for some reason deleting my idlerc folder allows it to work  
> again..
>
> http://bugs.python.org/issue7206

Then I'd hazard a guess that it was a permissions problem.  If it recurs,
please actually answer questions when we ask them, otherwise we really
might as well not bother.

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