question about mailing lists license ,

[a dehqan]

In The Name Of God The compassionate merciful

Good day everyone ;
Is it against to a mailing list license if someone allows that his/her notes/answers to be copied into a non-free book ?

Regards dehqan



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[Mihamina Rakotomandimby-6]

10/29/2009 10:44 AM, a dehqan::
> In The Name Of God The compassionate merciful
> Is it against to a mailing list license if someone allows that his/her
> notes/answers to be copied into a non-free book ?

You're gonna insert mailing list quotes into the Bible?
You may then use all mine.

Amen.

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[Shahnawaz Jamot]

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Do I have to reply like this to talk to you guys in the mailing list? I just registered few minutes ago and I still don't get this mailing list thing yet.
Need help

> Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 10:54:27 +0300
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> 10/29/2009 10:44 AM, a dehqan::
> > In The Name Of God The compassionate merciful
> > Is it against to a mailing list license if someone allows that his/her
> > notes/answers to be copied into a non-free book ?
>
> You're gonna insert mailing list quotes into the Bible?
> You may then use all mine.
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> Amen.
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[a dehqan]

In The Name Of God The compassionate merciful

Thanks for your attention ;
Hello;

You're gonna insert mailing list quotes into the Bible?
You may then use all mine.

Amen.

Thanks but member answers will pass through mailing list server , so should we  regard mailing list license before copying member answers (while member themself allow)? at all does mailing list have any license ?

Shahnawaz Jamot what is your problem ?

Regards dehqan

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[Mihamina Rakotomandimby-6]

10/29/2009 10:57 AM, Shahnawaz Jamot::
> Need help

What help, exactly?

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[Shahnawaz Jamot]

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Hi,
I'm intending to migrate to Linux Ubuntu from Windows XP Service Pack 3.
Here are my System details:

Processor:
Pentium (R) 4 CPU 1.70 GHz
(ACPI\GENUINEINTEL_-_X86_FAMILY_15_MODEL_1\_0

512 MB of RAM

Network Adapter:
Intel(R) PRO/1000 MT Network Connection

Onboard audio:
Integrated PCI AC'97
ADI 1981A CODEC
SoundMAX 3.0 with SPX

Webcam
A4 TECH PC Camera V

Display Adapter
Intel (R) 82845G/GL/GE/PE/GV Graphics Controller

Disk Drive:
ST3802110 A   (I guess it's my hard disk, and it's 80 GB)

DVD/CD-ROM:
SONY CD-RW CRX320EE

Printer:
HP PSC 1402

I want to know, if I install Ubuntu, will my all hardware work well and supported by Ubuntu OS?
If Ubuntu, won't automatically detect and install drivers for my Network Adapter, I won't be able to connect to internet. So if I have to download drivers from web, can you tell me where to download? so I may download and keep a copy of them in my data traveler USB device.

Will I be able to use my webcam in the messengers like MSN, Yahoo and Skype with my friends using Windows?

I have 4 partitions on my Disk, 3 are NTFS and one is FAT32
Can I just delete the C partition, and create a new one instead of it to use Ubuntu?
OR should I delete all the partitions? back up all the data of all the partitions? and then create all new partitions for Ubuntu?

And Can I install Ubuntu from a USB data traveler (Kingston) ? Because my CD writer isn't working properly.

Thanks in advance for your help.

Shahnawaz Jamot

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Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 11:35:51 +0330
Subject: Re: question about mailing lists license ,
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In The Name Of God The compassionate merciful

Thanks for your attention ;
Hello;

You're gonna insert mailing list quotes into the Bible?
You may then use all mine.

Amen.

Thanks but member answers will pass through mailing list server , so should we  regard mailing list license before copying member answers (while member themself allow)? at all does mailing list have any license ?

Shahnawaz Jamot what is your problem ?

Regards dehqan

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[Nils Kassube-2]

a dehqan wrote:
> Is it against to a mailing list license if someone allows that
> his/her notes/answers to be copied into a non-free book ?

For legal questions you should ask your lawyer.


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[David Curtis]

On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 11:14:20 +0330
a dehqan <dehqan65@...> wrote:

> In The Name Of God The compassionate merciful
>
> Good day everyone ;
> Is it against to a mailing list license if someone allows that his/her
> notes/answers to be copied into a non-free book ?

How can you be assured of the veracity of the answer? The individuals
who participate are most likely _not_ Ubuntu/Linux gurus. Although
they may have excellent experience some answers lack thoroughness or are
just plain wrong. I and a lot of others have been guilty of both.

If I read your previous posts correctly, you believe the participants
on this list directly represent Ubuntu and/or Canonical, this is
incorrect.

Aside from the above, please google "email and copyright" for tons of
information about legal use of online works.

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[Mihamina Rakotomandimby-6]

10/29/2009 11:25 AM, Shahnawaz Jamot::
> Hi,
> I'm intending to migrate to Linux Ubuntu from Windows XP Service Pack 3.

- create a new thread,
- dont top post
- use plain text

About your question:
Try a LiveCD of Ubuntu then report back here.

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[a dehqan]

In The Name Of God The compassionate merciful

Good day everyone ;

For legal questions you should ask your lawyer.

Nils

It is not related to lawyer , it is related to this mailing list license , whether license allow or not ,
does owner of this list  read this question ?

Regards dehqan

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[Nils Kassube-2]

a dehqan wrote (without attribution):
> > For legal questions you should ask your lawyer.
> >
> >
> > Nils
>
> It is not related to lawyer , it is related to this mailing list
> license , whether license allow or not ,

Yes it is a question for a lawyer. Let's say, someone gives an
(obviously wrong) answer here that you may freely copy everything you
find somewhere. If you then follow that advice, you may be in big
trouble later if someone sues you for copyright infringement. No judge
will take your excuse seriously that you "read it somewhere at the
internet that you may copy everything". Only if you hire a lawyer you
will get a qualified answer.

> does owner of this list  read this question ?

Maybe, but you should better ask a lawyer anyway.


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[a dehqan]

In The Name Of God The compassionate merciful

Why don't you read question exactly ?
question is ubuntu mailing license , does it have any licnese if yes , Is it against to a mailing list license if someone who gives answer allows that his/her notes/answers to be copied into a non-free book ?


so ownr of answer allow but his answer passes through mailing list server  .

On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 2:25 PM, Nils Kassube <kassube@...> wrote:

a dehqan wrote (without attribution):

> > For legal questions you should ask your lawyer.
> >
> >
> > Nils
>
> It is not related to lawyer , it is related to this mailing list
> license , whether license allow or not ,

Yes it is a question for a lawyer. Let's say, someone gives an
(obviously wrong) answer here that you may freely copy everything you
find somewhere. If you then follow that advice, you may be in big
trouble later if someone sues you for copyright infringement. No judge
will take your excuse seriously that you "read it somewhere at the
internet that you may copy everything". Only if you hire a lawyer you
will get a qualified answer.

> does owner of this list  read this question ?

Maybe, but you should better ask a lawyer anyway.

Nils


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[Chris Jones-8]

Hi,

> Why don't you read question exactly ?
> question is ubuntu mailing license , does it have any licnese if yes ,
> Is it against to a mailing list license if *someone who gives answer
> allows* that his/her notes/answers to be copied into a non-free book ?

You aren't likely going to get an answer to this from this list itself.
Can I suggest you stop asking here and instead contact the 'ubuntu legal
team' directly, to see what they say about it. I'm not sure of the
correct way to do this, but

http://www.ubuntu.com/aboutus/contactus

is probably as good a start as any.

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[Wendy Galovich]

On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 14:49:55 +0330
a dehqan <dehqan65@...> wrote:

> In The Name Of God The compassionate merciful
>
> Why don't you read question exactly ?
> question is ubuntu mailing license , does it have any licnese if
> yes , Is it against to a mailing list license if *someone who gives
> answer allows* that his/her notes/answers to be copied into a
> non-free book ?
>
>
> so ownr of answer allow but his answer passes through mailing list
> server  .
>

Dehqan,

I agree with Nils that the question you are asking is a legal one.
Only a lawyer can give you an accurate answer.

Also, if you are looking for the list owner or administrator you would
do well to go back to the list web page at
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users and look at the
bottom of the page for a link to the administrators' email address.
There is no guarantee that the administrators are monitoring individual
posts to this list, or will see your question here and respond to it.


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[dotancohen]

> In The Name Of God The compassionate merciful
>
> Good day everyone ;
> Is it against to a mailing list license if someone allows that his/her
> notes/answers to be copied into a non-free book ?
>

בע"ש

I suggest that you reformulate the information that you learn from the
mailing list in your book. The mailing list has many different
authors, and you do not need the legal liability to all of them. The
information, being of a technical nature, should be easy to
reformulate in your own words.

Also, it would be recommended to mention the mailing list in the book.


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[Avi Greenbury]

a dehqan <dehqan65@...> wrote:
> Why don't you read question exactly ?

Your question, as far as I can tell, is being answered exactly. I would
suggest that if you're getting answers at odds with what you want to
know, you might be asking the wrong question.

> question is ubuntu mailing license , does it have any licnese if
> yes , Is it against to a mailing list license if *someone who gives
> answer allows* that his/her notes/answers to be copied into a
> non-free book ?

It has no explicit license to the best of my knowledge, but there are
likely implicit restrictions and rights afforded to the list
contributors, maintainers and readers. None of us (the contributors) are
qualified to inform you on this topic, though. As said above, Canonical
are who you want to speak to, specifically their legal team.

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[a dehqan]

In The Name Of God The compassionate merciful

Thanks everyone who paid attention to this topic ,  contact with canonical will be tried .

Regards dehqan

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[Amedee Van Gasse (ub)]

On Thu, October 29, 2009 12:19, a dehqan wrote:
> In The Name Of God The compassionate merciful

In The Name Of The Flying Spaghetti Monster, May His Noodly Appendage
Touch You

> Why don't you read question exactly ?

Don't tell people that they didn't read your question exactly if you can't
write proper English.

Item 5 of the Ubuntu Code of Conduct says:
"When you are unsure, ask for help"

If you have problems with English, ask a translator to help you. If not,
than you will have to accept that you will be misunderstood if you don't
ask very precise questions.
You could also ask on a local language list.

> question is ubuntu mailing license , does it have any licnese

The mailing list software is Mailman and that is covered by some version
of the General Public License.

> if yes , Is it against to a mailing list license if *someone who gives
> answer allows* that his/her notes/answers to be copied into a non-free
> book ?

When speaking about the mails *on* the list, you're not asking about a
license but about copyright and fair usage. This is a *public* mailing
list. It is automatically published and republished on several websites.
That means that you can also republish it wherever you want, but you
cannot claim exclusive rights. You cannot forbid that someone else will
also publish something that you found on a public mailing list.

> so ownr of answer allow but his answer passes through mailing list server

For more legalese, see http://www.ubuntu.com/legal


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[Derek Broughton]

a dehqan wrote:
 
> Is it against to a mailing list license if someone allows that his/her
> notes/answers to be copied into a non-free book ?

It is a violation of international copyright law, if you publish it without
the author's permission.  I think most people here though are not averse to
you publishing their wisdom; they just don't want to go to the trouble of
writing down something, for you to publish, that you could have stolen just
as easily from Google.
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[Derek Broughton]

a dehqan wrote:

> In The Name Of God The compassionate merciful

Look, that's getting really annoying.  Please don't inflict your religion on
me.

> Why don't you read question exactly ?

We did but you don't want to listen.

> question is ubuntu mailing license , does it have any licnese if yes ,

No, it doesn't.  If it did, it would be irrelevant, because no list server
or archive can change _my_ ownership of the words I've posted there.

> Is
> it against to a mailing list license if *someone who gives answer allows*
> that his/her notes/answers to be copied into a non-free book ?

No.  But it IS a matter of copyright law, which means that you still need to
get _written_ permission from every such person to use their content.
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