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by Michael Gillie
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Hi there,
I have a quick question, with a short background.
I'm experimenting with embedded Windows XP and Linux in relation to some of my courses at school. I'm wondering if anyone in the linux community might have a very old 486 motherboards and CPU's? I know these are hard to come by in today's world of Dual core and Quad core systems.
I don't really need a case, I just need the MB and CPU. If it has the old style keyboard jack (pre-ps2), I may need a keyboard.
Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Michael Gillie
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by Michael Crawford-2
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On 10/4/09, Michael Gillie <mikegpc@...> wrote:
> I'm wondering if anyone in the linux community might > have a very old 486 motherboards and CPU's? See if a local electronics recycler might have one. The recycler where I live (in California) will give me all the PCs I can take, absolutely free. Another option would be a PC 104 board; I believe that's a compact 486 motherboard with an ISA bus. There are also PC 104+ boards - those have PCI I think. I don't think a PC 104 board would be very expensive. Mike -- Michael David Crawford mdcrawford at gmail dot com GoingWare's Bag of Programming Tricks http://www.goingware.com/tips/ _______________________________________________ nSLUG mailing list nSLUG@... http://nslug.ns.ca/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/nslug |
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by Michael Gillie
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Thanks.
On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 12:07 AM, Michael Crawford <mdcrawford@...> wrote:
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by Richard Bonner
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On Sun, 4 Oct 2009, Michael Gillie wrote: > I'm experimenting with embedded Windows XP and Linux in relation to > some of my courses at school. I'm wondering if anyone in the linux > community might have a very old 486 motherboards and CPU's? > > I don't really need a case, I just need the MB and CPU. If it has the old > style keyboard jack (pre-ps2), I may need a keyboard. > > Michael Gillie *** I may possibly have some but won't have a chance to look through what I have for several weeks. Can you wait? If not, if we can agree on a day and time, you could look through what I have. Be aware, though, I have a *lot* of computer stuff in storage. (-: Richard _______________________________________________ nSLUG mailing list nSLUG@... http://nslug.ns.ca/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/nslug |
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by Michael Gillie
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I love mountains :P. Monday's after 1:00, Tuesdays after 12:00 and Saturday's are free days, usually, unless I have to work. Ah yes, the life of a student. I might be able to find evenings on the other days.
I have a habit of drooling over technology.
Thanks,
Michael
On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 7:52 AM, Richard Bonner <ak621@...> wrote:
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by Mike Spencer
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> I'm wondering if anyone in the linux community might have a very old > 486 motherboards and CPU's? I have a 486DX mobo with CPU, bought new in 1994. It got left in the rain yesterday on its way to storage but has sun-dried today. You're welcome to it but it's here, viz. near Bridgewater, 70 miles from Halifax. Richard Bonner's midden is probably easier. Should you want it bad enough to actually come here, I might turn up 2nd one with some digging. I also have some Z80 CPUs and some other weirder chips but they're from an old, possibly home-brew, tape controller, not on general-purpose mobos. Bonus trivia: Does anybody know how I could get some amusing use out of the following piece of hardware? I have two of them but no dongles. Northern Telecom/Brock Telecom Sentinel NTA005AB 05-15-92 NATO 5810-21-908-9364 Rear panel: Two female 25-pin plugs labeled "RS-232 Plaintext" and "RS-232 Ciphertext" and 115V AC plug. Front panel: Datakey Keyceptacle port (dongle port?), two-line LCD display, cursor movement and "Enter" buttons, indicator lights. Of interest inside: DSP5600 DSP chip AMZ8068 DES chip (1984) 80C186 CPU and a really weird circuit board etched to create a sort of maze but with no components mounted, glued flat into the case. Some kind of Faraday-cage type thing? - Mike -- Michael Spencer Nova Scotia, Canada .~. /V\ mspencer@... /( )\ http://home.tallships.ca/mspencer/ ^^-^^ _______________________________________________ nSLUG mailing list nSLUG@... http://nslug.ns.ca/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/nslug |
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by Gerald-16
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Mike Spencer wrote: . . . . > Bonus trivia: Does anybody know how I could get some amusing use out > of the following piece of hardware? I have two of them but no > dongles. > > Northern Telecom/Brock Telecom Sentinel > NTA005AB 05-15-92 > NATO 5810-21-908-9364 > > Rear panel: > Two female 25-pin plugs labeled "RS-232 Plaintext" and "RS-232 > Ciphertext" and 115V AC plug. > > Front panel: > Datakey Keyceptacle port (dongle port?), two-line LCD display, > cursor movement and "Enter" buttons, indicator lights. > > Of interest inside: > DSP5600 DSP chip > AMZ8068 DES chip (1984) > 80C186 CPU > > and a really weird circuit board etched to create a sort of > maze but with no components mounted, glued flat into the case. > Some kind of Faraday-cage type thing? > > - Mike > Mike, Sounds like some sort of crypto gear. The dongle would contain key(s). A faraday cage would be important to keep the signal from leaking. -- Gerald _______________________________________________ nSLUG mailing list nSLUG@... http://nslug.ns.ca/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/nslug |
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by Mike Spencer
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me> Northern Telecom/Brock Telecom Sentinel me> NTA005AB 05-15-92 me> NATO 5810-21-908-9364 Gerald replied: > Sounds like some sort of crypto gear. The dongle would contain > key(s). A faraday cage would be important to keep the signal from > leaking. That seems pretty clear, especially given the DES chip and the expicit mention of ciphertext. Now how can I make it do something without having the dongle? (I'm not up to hacking the hardware with an analyzer, DSP gear and so on. I was hoping for something relatively primitive but fun. :-) - Mike -- Michael Spencer Nova Scotia, Canada .~. /V\ mspencer@... /( )\ http://home.tallships.ca/mspencer/ ^^-^^ _______________________________________________ nSLUG mailing list nSLUG@... http://nslug.ns.ca/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/nslug |
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by Michael Gillie
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Wow... z80? That's from Commodore days. I only learned that by digging. I started my computer days on Windows 3.1, and progressed. I really appreciate the offer, however, I think I'll have to pass that one up, although I might be able to have a wee bit of fun, LOL.
I think I'll work something out with Richard. Bridgewater is semi inaccessible with my schedule, and the fact that my main source of transportation is the transit system.
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by Michael Gillie
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On second thought, Except for Wednesday, Thursday, and Sunday AM, my schedule is relatively free this week. It's hard to project anything more then one week at a time, where I work a part time job, they can set relatively random hours.
I try not to be wishy-washy but it's hard to figure things out around school, work and other events.
Just name a time and I'll see what I can build around it.
Michael
On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 8:37 AM, Michael Gillie <mikegpc@...> wrote:
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by jim dorey
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Michael Crawford wrote:
> On 10/4/09, Michael Gillie <mikegpc@...> wrote: >> I'm wondering if anyone in the linux community might >> have a very old 486 motherboards and CPU's? > > See if a local electronics recycler might have one. The recycler > where I live (in California) will give me all the PCs I can take, > absolutely free. > > Another option would be a PC 104 board; I believe that's a compact 486 > motherboard with an ISA bus. There are also PC 104+ boards - those > have PCI I think. > > I don't think a PC 104 board would be very expensive. > > Mike in my memory, pc-104 is very expensive, very, it's almost completely modular, it's extremely robust, has great industry support, all the big things, but it's really not for a regular user, or an embedded developer. sometimes, there may be an important function that's only available on an expensive module, and you only need that function, so parts go to waste...anyways, try tern, gumstix, or mini-itx. as near as i can remember, they even have 386 embedded core modules, with lots of features, available at tern. the older gumstix core are...i think, based on a wildly overclocked 486, and pretty cheap, maybe there's something pre-pentium on itx somewhere. however, i've gotten into deep waters of 'buy new', but that's not so great...maybe you can find an old POS system that a store's tossing. i got an ncr system 3230 once from a reseller that got it from a grocery store, built like a tank, and worked perfectly, just needed a new hard disk...i still have the hard disk, i wish i still had the system too, but i think barrington's completely cleaned out old hardware by now, maybe a school's got some. _______________________________________________ nSLUG mailing list nSLUG@... http://nslug.ns.ca/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/nslug |
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