re: Dell or HP laptop with excellent support to Linux (Debian)

[Alexander Kaphuk]

G'day,

My name is Alexander Kapshuk.

I am looking to purchase a Dell laptop with excellent Linux support (Debian Lenny).

Here are the specifications I am after:

CPU = Inter Core 2 Duo;

RAM = 3GB or 4GB;

Graphics Card = NVIDIA GeForce;

Hard Drive = 250GB or 320GB;

With a webcam;

With a card reader;

Wi Fi: anything but Broadcom (i was told Broadcom Wi Fi has a lousy Linux support, correct me if I'm wrong);

I would appreciate it if somebody would recommend a model of a DELL laptop that meets the specs above or similar as this is going to be a considerable investment for me and I want to make sure that the laptop I end up buying has very good Linux support.

Looking forward to hearing from any of you that would care to respond at your convenience.

Thanking you all in advance

Alexander Kapshuk.

[Fabricio Cannini - Yahoo]

On Wednesday 26 August 2009 09:09:47 Alexander Kapshuk wrote:

> G'day,
>
> My name is Alexander Kapshuk.
>
> I am looking to purchase a Dell laptop with excellent Linux support (Debian
> Lenny).
>
> Here are the specifications I am after:
>
> CPU = Inter Core 2 Duo;
>
> RAM = 3GB or 4GB;
>
> Graphics Card = NVIDIA GeForce;
>
> Hard Drive = 250GB or 320GB;
>
> With a webcam;
>
> With a card reader;
>
> Wi Fi: anything but Broadcom (i was told Broadcom Wi Fi has a lousy Linux
> support, correct me if I'm wrong);
> I would appreciate it if somebody would recommend a model of a DELL laptop
> that meets the specs above or similar as this is going to be a considerable
> investment for me and I want to make sure that the laptop I end up buying
> has very good Linux support.
>
>  Looking forward to hearing from any of you that would care to respond at
> your convenience.
>
> Thanking you all in advance
> Alexander Kapshuk.

Hi Alexander!

Whether you're going with HP or Dell, avoid by all means the ones with nvidia
chips. My dv2416 got bricked because of it.
I don't know if nvidia have actually fixed all the issues, but i won't buy
another laptop with nvidia chips in it. Ever.
It's a loooooong story, so please read more about it here:

http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/1051956/pressure-mounts-hp-failing-
nvidia-graphics-cards

http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/1004378/why-nvidia-chips-defective
http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquirer/news/2008/09/01/nvidia-should-
defective-chips
http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquirer/news/2008/09/01/nv-should

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13924_3-10000910-64.html


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[macdowell.smd]

I have a HP Pavillon tx1420us. I wouldn't by HP laptop anymore. I had a
lot of problems and poor help.

http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?docname=c01087277&cc=us&dlc=en&lc=en&jump
id=reg_R1002_USEN

mac

> G'day,
>
> My name is Alexander Kapshuk.
>
> I am looking to purchase a Dell laptop with excellent Linux support
> (Debian
> Lenny).
>
> Here are the specifications I am after:
>
> CPU = Inter Core 2 Duo;
>
> RAM = 3GB or 4GB;
>
> Graphics Card = NVIDIA GeForce;
>
> Hard Drive = 250GB or 320GB;
>
> With a webcam;
>
> With a card reader;
>
> Wi Fi: anything but Broadcom (i was told Broadcom Wi Fi has a lousy Linux
> support, correct me if I'm wrong);
> I would appreciate it if somebody would recommend a model of a DELL laptop
> that meets the specs above or similar as this is going to be a
> considerable
> investment for me and I want to make sure that the laptop I end up buying
> has very good Linux support.
>
>  Looking forward to hearing from any of you that would care to respond at
> your convenience.
>
> Thanking you all in advance
> Alexander Kapshuk.
>

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I have owned 2 different HP laptops and both have worked flawlessly with linux.  Both are well documented at http://www.edwiget.name. The newer one really requires a 2.6.29 or better kernel though for stability

Ed Wiget
P.s. Sorry for 2nd mail, forgot to add list to 1rst
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-----Original Message-----
From: "SAMUEL JOSE PEREIRA CARNEIRO MACDOWELL" <macdowell.smd@...>

Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 15:01:00
To: Alexander Kapshuk<sashaandtanya@...>
Cc: <debian-laptop@...>
Subject: re: Dell or HP laptop with excellent support to Linux (Debian)


I have a HP Pavillon tx1420us. I wouldn't by HP laptop anymore. I had a
lot of problems and poor help.

http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?docname=c01087277&cc=us&dlc=en&lc=en&jump
id=reg_R1002_USEN

mac

> G'day,
>
> My name is Alexander Kapshuk.
>
> I am looking to purchase a Dell laptop with excellent Linux support
> (Debian
> Lenny).
>
> Here are the specifications I am after:
>
> CPU = Inter Core 2 Duo;
>
> RAM = 3GB or 4GB;
>
> Graphics Card = NVIDIA GeForce;
>
> Hard Drive = 250GB or 320GB;
>
> With a webcam;
>
> With a card reader;
>
> Wi Fi: anything but Broadcom (i was told Broadcom Wi Fi has a lousy Linux
> support, correct me if I'm wrong);
> I would appreciate it if somebody would recommend a model of a DELL laptop
> that meets the specs above or similar as this is going to be a
> considerable
> investment for me and I want to make sure that the laptop I end up buying
> has very good Linux support.
>
>  Looking forward to hearing from any of you that would care to respond at
> your convenience.
>
> Thanking you all in advance
> Alexander Kapshuk.
>

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[celejar]

On Wed, 26 Aug 2009 15:09:47 +0300
Alexander Kapshuk <sashaandtanya@...> wrote:

...

> Wi Fi: anything but Broadcom (i was told Broadcom Wi Fi has a lousy Linux
> support, correct me if I'm wrong);

It's really not that simple.  Broadcom has apparently never released
any specs, so the native linux drivers have to be clean-room reverse
engineered.  That caveat notwithstanding, there's an active development
community, and support for many chips, particularly older models, is
excellent, at least in station mode, which is most probably the main
thing you'll need in a laptop.  The 4318 in my Acer laptop, for
example, works quite well.  Support for some newer chips (LP-PHY cores)
has been progressing lately.  This is your starting point:

http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/b43

Celejar
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[Sebastian Rose-2]

Dell Latitude Laptops seem to work with current Linux Distributions out
of the box (at least the Dell Latitude E6500, which even has GPS. I read
this in the user comments on the DELL website).

I bought a Lenovo T500 recently (1249 €). Everything works out of the
box, except the internal UMTS-Modem and the fingerprint reader. Both
will work, I believe, once I find the time to dig into it.


   Sebastian


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[Jason Filippou]

Hello,

In contrast to many previous comments I;m gonna have to say that my HP
Pavillion dv6000 has been running Squeeze with no serious problems
whatsoever. However, we're talking about a laptop with an Intel 945
graphics card, which is something you're definitely not looking after.

Jason

On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 3:50 PM, Sebastian Rose<sebastian_rose@...> wrote:

>
> Dell Latitude Laptops seem to work with current Linux Distributions out
> of the box (at least the Dell Latitude E6500, which even has GPS. I read
> this in the user comments on the DELL website).
>
> I bought a Lenovo T500 recently (1249 €). Everything works out of the
> box, except the internal UMTS-Modem and the fingerprint reader. Both
> will work, I believe, once I find the time to dig into it.
>
>
>   Sebastian
>
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