searching for business card scanner compatible with sane

[Jelle de Jong]

Hello everybody,

I am looking for a USB Business Card Scanner that can do the following:

Color, grayscale and lineart scans minimal 600 DPI with Automatic
Document Feeder (ADF) and Duplex scans of at least 50 cards (60mmx90mm),
that can output in PBM,PGM and PPM formats for further processing on the
software side.

I want to be able to use the upstream standaard supported utilities to
use the device (like scanadf, scanimage, xsane, and so on)

If the above is not yet possible, is there any hope for it?

Thanks in advance,

Best regards,

Jelle de Jong

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[m. allan noah-3]

I have not seen any business card scanners with a 50 card input tray.
In fact, most card sized scanners are single sheet simplex. You might
have to move up to something like an A6 or A4 sized scanner to get
multi-page duplex.

allan

On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 2:53 PM, Jelle de Jong <jelledejong@...> wrote:

> Hello everybody,
>
> I am looking for a USB Business Card Scanner that can do the following:
>
> Color, grayscale and lineart scans minimal 600 DPI with Automatic
> Document Feeder (ADF) and Duplex scans of at least 50 cards (60mmx90mm),
> that can output in PBM,PGM and PPM formats for further processing on the
> software side.
>
> I want to be able to use the upstream standaard supported utilities to
> use the device (like scanadf, scanimage, xsane, and so on)
>
> If the above is not yet possible, is there any hope for it?
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Best regards,
>
> Jelle de Jong
>
> PS. please keep me in the CC field during this thread.
>
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[Jelle de Jong]

Hi Allan,

m. allan noah wrote:
> I have not seen any business card scanners with a 50 card input tray.
> In fact, most card sized scanners are single sheet simplex. You might
> have to move up to something like an A6 or A4 sized scanner to get
> multi-page duplex.

You are right. I think 50 page business card (250 g/m2) are a bit to
much to ask, but but an ADF for 10 times A8 (74 × 52 mm) (250 g/m2)
business cards would be nice.

I also did some searching, and found that even the most sick priced
>3000 euro scanners that do scan A8 (business card) sized media do not
indicate that they are capable of scanning 250 g/m2 paper... So this
seems to be an useless parameter to select a new scanner on...?

Last year I replaced my standalone HP ScanJet 6300c ADF scanner (support
broke with a new sane version) with a new HP Officejet J5780
http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/product?product=3301296

This printer with ADF only cost 130 euro and scans very nice. I did have
regression issues (HP messed up there code) with the network saned
server systems. But support of Julien BLACHE has been really good so now
I got a very usefull scanner setup togheter with my pct-scanner-scripts
available in Debian. I manage a few hundred scans per week, duplex is
not really needed, I got a nice software rearrange duplex feature.


I looked a bit further and found the following two options:

ScanSnap S300 (between 200 and 320 euro)
http://www.fujitsu.com/us/services/computing/peripherals/scanners/scansnap/s300.html

^^^ that looks like an useful addition to my scanner setup. I want to
buy this one but I am so afraid I will not get the sane driver features
I need because of an under developed driver. Are my fears justified!?
http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=6619498&postcount=11
http://www.sane-project.org/man/sane-epjitsu.5.html

If somebody can convince me that missing features that are supported by
the hardware will be added to the driver then I will buy this unit...

ScanSnap S1500 (between 420 and 496 euro)
http://www.fujitsu.com/us/services/computing/peripherals/scanners/scansnap/scansnap-s1500.html

^^^ this scanner is also an option but its lot of money. I got perfect
results with a 130 euro all-in-one but no A8 scan support. Would 450
euro be worth it? It driver seems to be developed with the availiable
featurs. http://www.sane-project.org/man/sane-fujitsu.5.html


Any advice is welcome.

Thanks in advance,

Best regards,

Jelle

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[m. allan noah-3]

On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 1:33 PM, Jelle de Jong <jelledejong@...> wrote:

> Hi Allan,
>
> m. allan noah wrote:
>> I have not seen any business card scanners with a 50 card input tray.
>> In fact, most card sized scanners are single sheet simplex. You might
>> have to move up to something like an A6 or A4 sized scanner to get
>> multi-page duplex.
>
> You are right. I think 50 page business card (250 g/m2) are a bit to
> much to ask, but but an ADF for 10 times A8 (74 в 52 mm) (250 g/m2)
> business cards would be nice.
>
> I also did some searching, and found that even the most sick priced
>>3000 euro scanners that do scan A8 (business card) sized media do not
> indicate that they are capable of scanning 250 g/m2 paper... So this
> seems to be an useless parameter to select a new scanner on...?

most desktop and larger scanners can handle the heavy paper.

> Last year I replaced my standalone HP ScanJet 6300c ADF scanner (support
> broke with a new sane version) with a new HP Officejet J5780
> http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/product?product=3301296
>
> This printer with ADF only cost 130 euro and scans very nice. I did have
> regression issues (HP messed up there code) with the network saned
> server systems. But support of Julien BLACHE has been really good so now
> I got a very usefull scanner setup togheter with my pct-scanner-scripts
> available in Debian. I manage a few hundred scans per week, duplex is
> not really needed, I got a nice software rearrange duplex feature.
>
>
> I looked a bit further and found the following two options:
>
> ScanSnap S300 (between 200 and 320 euro)
> http://www.fujitsu.com/us/services/computing/peripherals/scanners/scansnap/s300.html
>
> ^^^ that looks like an useful addition to my scanner setup. I want to
> buy this one but I am so afraid I will not get the sane driver features
> I need because of an under developed driver. Are my fears justified!?
> http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=6619498&postcount=11
> http://www.sane-project.org/man/sane-epjitsu.5.html
>
> If somebody can convince me that missing features that are supported by
> the hardware will be added to the driver then I will buy this unit...
>
> ScanSnap S1500 (between 420 and 496 euro)
> http://www.fujitsu.com/us/services/computing/peripherals/scanners/scansnap/scansnap-s1500.html
>
> ^^^ this scanner is also an option but its lot of money. I got perfect
> results with a 130 euro all-in-one but no A8 scan support. Would 450
> euro be worth it? It driver seems to be developed with the availiable
> featurs. http://www.sane-project.org/man/sane-fujitsu.5.html

well- i wrote both of those drivers, so i guess i am in a unique
position to respond :)

the S300 is epson-based, and uses a rather dumb protocol. It also
requires a firmware upload, is entirely reverse engineered. It has a
smaller paper tray and is slower than other fujitsus.

Most of the rest of the fujitsu machines (including the S1500) are
much smarter, and I actually have documentation for them, and support
a huge list of options.

Unless you absolutely need the smaller footprint of the S300 (or the
ability to run on USB power), I would definitely buy a 'normal'
fujitsu. If money is an issue, see if you can still find an S500 or
S510, or buy a used or refurbished fi-series machine (fi-5110C,
fi-5120C, fi-6130). They show up on ebay quite often...

allan
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