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by Mordechai T. Abzug-4 :: Rate this Message:

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Anyone have suggestions for a good, secure webified firewall rule
management program?  I.e. the kind of thing where users submit
requests for firewall holes and there's support for workflow so that a
requested rule goes to an approver for approval, and if approved, it
then goes to an implementer for implementation.  COTS or free is fine.

Requirements:

* Secure code!  The firewall request system should not itself be a
  security hole.

* The system should allow users to submit rule requests, to be
  approved by designated "approvers", and if approved, implemented by
  designated "implementers".

* Awareness of firewall topology.  I.e. the product needs to be aware
  of which firewalls a given request traverses so this information can
  be available to approvers and implementers.

* The system should include a notion of rule expiration, with
  attendant workflow.

* The system should support change requests to existing rules, with
  attendant approver/implementer workflow.

* The ability to abstract users into departments or projects,
  ie. instead of the rule for the accounting web server belonging to
  an individual, it belongs to "accounting".  Even better if an
  individual can submit for multiple projects, ie. a sysadmin who
  works for both accounting and marketing can annotate "this rule
  belongs to accounting" and the like.

* Sane role/permissions scheme, ie. user from department 1 can't
  modify rule requests for department 2, and the like.

Desirements:

* The ability to export rulesets into popular firewall formats

* The ability to import existing rules from popular firewall formats

* The ability to search for IPs in rules using CIDR specifications

* COTS or free.  We have some budget, but if there is something free,
  we certainly won't complain.

[People who have been around a while might remember that I asked this
question some years ago.  Unfortunately, there were no answers other
than some private, "yes, we'd like that too."]

- Morty
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Re: secure firewall rule management program

by rainer.ginsberg :: Rate this Message:

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Hi Morty,

I know of three commercial products that claim to fulfill most of your
requirements. I haven't used them nor even seen a demo, so I can't share
any experience. They are (in alphabetical order)
 - AlgoSec FireFlow <
http://www.algosec.com/en/products/fireflow_overview.php>
 - Check Point SmartWorkflow <
http://www.checkpoint.com/products/softwareblades/smartworkflow.html>
 - Tufin SecureChange Workflow <
http://www.tufin.com/products_securechange_workflow.php>

While Check Point's product only works for their line of firewalls, the
other two products claim to support multiple firewall vendors.

Best regards,
Rainer


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Anyone have suggestions for a good, secure webified firewall rule
management program?  I.e. the kind of thing where users submit
requests for firewall holes and there's support for workflow so that a
requested rule goes to an approver for approval, and if approved, it
then goes to an implementer for implementation.  COTS or free is fine.

Requirements:

* Secure code!  The firewall request system should not itself be a
  security hole.

* The system should allow users to submit rule requests, to be
  approved by designated "approvers", and if approved, implemented by
  designated "implementers".

* Awareness of firewall topology.  I.e. the product needs to be aware
  of which firewalls a given request traverses so this information can
  be available to approvers and implementers.

* The system should include a notion of rule expiration, with
  attendant workflow.

* The system should support change requests to existing rules, with
  attendant approver/implementer workflow.

* The ability to abstract users into departments or projects,
  ie. instead of the rule for the accounting web server belonging to
  an individual, it belongs to "accounting".  Even better if an
  individual can submit for multiple projects, ie. a sysadmin who
  works for both accounting and marketing can annotate "this rule
  belongs to accounting" and the like.

* Sane role/permissions scheme, ie. user from department 1 can't
  modify rule requests for department 2, and the like.

Desirements:

* The ability to export rulesets into popular firewall formats

* The ability to import existing rules from popular firewall formats

* The ability to search for IPs in rules using CIDR specifications

* COTS or free.  We have some budget, but if there is something free,
  we certainly won't complain.

[People who have been around a while might remember that I asked this
question some years ago.  Unfortunately, there were no answers other
than some private, "yes, we'd like that too."]

- Morty

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Re: secure firewall rule management program

by Pietro Bertera :: Rate this Message:

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> Anyone have suggestions for a good, secure webified firewall rule
> management program?  I.e. the kind of thing where users submit
> requests for firewall holes and there's support for workflow so that a
> requested rule goes to an approver for approval, and if approved, it
> then goes to an implementer for implementation.  COTS or free is fine.

I use FWbuilder (http://www.fwbuilder.org/) for rule management.
You can implement the rule application workflow with a set of script or
deploy tool.

regards,
    Pietro
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Re: secure firewall rule management program

by Avishai Wool-2 :: Rate this Message:

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Mordechai,

AlgoSec FireFlow does pretty much exactly what you need.
It is definitely topology aware and can tell you which firewalls
you should modify to meet a change request.
It has rule expiration built in.
Supports Check Point, Cisco, Juniper, Fortinet.

http://www.algosec.com

Avishai

disclaimer: I'm AlgoSec CTO & Co-Founder so I'm biased.



On 9/3/09, Mordechai T. Abzug <morty+fw-wiz@...> wrote:

> Anyone have suggestions for a good, secure webified firewall rule
> management program?  I.e. the kind of thing where users submit
> requests for firewall holes and there's support for workflow so that a
> requested rule goes to an approver for approval, and if approved, it
> then goes to an implementer for implementation.  COTS or free is fine.
>
> Requirements:
>
> * Secure code!  The firewall request system should not itself be a
>  security hole.
>
> * The system should allow users to submit rule requests, to be
>  approved by designated "approvers", and if approved, implemented by
>  designated "implementers".
>
> * Awareness of firewall topology.  I.e. the product needs to be aware
>  of which firewalls a given request traverses so this information can
>  be available to approvers and implementers.
>
> * The system should include a notion of rule expiration, with
>  attendant workflow.
>
> * The system should support change requests to existing rules, with
>  attendant approver/implementer workflow.
>
> * The ability to abstract users into departments or projects,
>  ie. instead of the rule for the accounting web server belonging to
>  an individual, it belongs to "accounting".  Even better if an
>  individual can submit for multiple projects, ie. a sysadmin who
>  works for both accounting and marketing can annotate "this rule
>  belongs to accounting" and the like.
>
> * Sane role/permissions scheme, ie. user from department 1 can't
>  modify rule requests for department 2, and the like.
>
> Desirements:
>
> * The ability to export rulesets into popular firewall formats
>
> * The ability to import existing rules from popular firewall formats
>
> * The ability to search for IPs in rules using CIDR specifications
>
> * COTS or free.  We have some budget, but if there is something free,
>  we certainly won't complain.
>
> [People who have been around a while might remember that I asked this
> question some years ago.  Unfortunately, there were no answers other
> than some private, "yes, we'd like that too."]
>
> - Morty
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by Matthias Leu :: Rate this Message:

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Hi Morty,
have you had a look at Tufin SecureTrack and SecureChange Workflow?
It's not free, but quite good and I think your requirements are fulfilled.

It runs on Linux and is written by security professionals.
SecureTrack is connected to Check Point SmartCenter or MDS/CMA via
OPSEC, other vendors are supported too (e.g. Juniper, Cisco,
Fortinet,...).
Each 'save' gives a new revision, no 'install' necessary. So reports,
and above all, alerts are generated before installing the new version on
the firewalls.
Expired rules can be found, rule usage is based on logging - also the
use of objects within rules is documented, so not only unused rules but
also unused objects can be found. I found out that esp. finding these
objects is important and not so easy without a tool.
Based on logging an automatic policy generation is possible, offering
many parameters for the suggested rulebase. Further on, many different
types of reports and audits (also PCI-DSS) can be configured and run.
Users can be defined as admin or as simple user with different roles and
therefore rights.
Tufin SecureChange Workflow offers a very open and individually
configrable system. Many different workflows can be defined. These
workflows need to be followed. Many different roles can be defined, e.g.
admin, end user (requestor), approver, implementer, dispatcher etc. You
are very free in defining users and workflows.
The request can be checked agains compliance alerts and rules for
business continuity from Tufin SecureTrack. So when a user requests a
'forbidden connection', an alert is generated. For sure, existing rules
as well as objects can be considered.

We work with this software since a longer time now, it's good. Have a
look at www.tufin.com

Best regars,
Matthias
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Re: secure firewall rule management program

by Mordechai T. Abzug-4 :: Rate this Message:

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On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 11:52:01AM +0100, Matthias Leu wrote:

> have you had a look at Tufin SecureTrack and SecureChange Workflow?

Thanks!  We're looking both at Tufin (mentioned by Rainer Ginsberg)
and at Algosec (mentioned by one of our managers and by Rainer).  The
current versions of both products fail to meet several of our
dealbreaking requirements.  Both products are relatively new.  We're
hopeful that a future version of one or both products will be what we
want.

- Morty
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Re: secure firewall rule management program

by Marcin Antkiewicz :: Rate this Message:

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> Thanks!  We're looking both at Tufin (mentioned by Rainer Ginsberg)
> and at Algosec (mentioned by one of our managers and by Rainer).  The
> current versions of both products fail to meet several of our
> dealbreaking requirements.  Both products are relatively new.  We're
> hopeful that a future version of one or both products will be what we
> want.

Hi Morty,

we are looking at the same, but we are looking for a cleanup/basic ops support
tool right now.

Would you mind sharing the dealbreaking requirements? I am wondering now
what, if anything we have missed.

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Some parts of this message have been removed. Learn more about Nabble's security policy.

Athena Security also provides a cleanup tool/basic ops tool. Works with Cisco, Check Point and Netscreen firewalls. Available for eval download at http://www.athenasecurity.net/firepac_trial.html

 

Lan Li

 

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> Thanks!  We're looking both at Tufin (mentioned by Rainer Ginsberg)

> and at Algosec (mentioned by one of our managers and by Rainer).  The

> current versions of both products fail to meet several of our

> dealbreaking requirements.  Both products are relatively new.  We're

> hopeful that a future version of one or both products will be what we

> want.

 

Hi Morty,

 

we are looking at the same, but we are looking for a cleanup/basic ops support tool right now.

 

Would you mind sharing the dealbreaking requirements? I am wondering now what, if anything we have missed.

 

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Marcin Antkiewicz

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