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by brent1a :: Rate this Message:

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I am trying to put to gether a small db app for osx. Is there a way to configure a standalone 4d runtime application/document to include with the app which would be the basic db the app would access and write too?
thanks
-Brent


     
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by Jean-Jacques Chailloux :: Rate this Message:

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Why not take a look at sqlite?
http://www.sqlite.org/
jjc


--- On Fri, 6/5/09, Brent Austin <brent1a@...> wrote:

> From: Brent Austin <brent1a@...>
> Subject: self-contained db for osx app
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> Date: Friday, June 5, 2009, 3:13 AM
> I am trying to put to gether a small
> db app for osx. Is there a way to configure a standalone 4d
> runtime application/document to include with the app which
> would be the basic db the app would access and write too?
> thanks
> -Brent
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Re: self-contained db for osx app

by Josh Fletcher (4D, Inc) :: Rate this Message:

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Hi Brent,

I'm not sure I quite understand your question but see if this helps:

Brent Austin wrote:
> I am trying to put to gether a small db app for osx. Is there a way
> to configure a standalone 4d runtime application/document to include
> with the app which would be the basic db the app would access and
> write too?

It sounds like you want to use 4D as the "back-end" to some other
front-end application?

The first question I would ask is why not just build the whole thing
with 4D?  Have you run into some limitations?

You can definitely configure 4D Server v11 SQL to be a SQL server.  All
you need to do is enable the SQL Server preferences, and have the
appropriate license. You can find information about our deployment
licenses here:

http://www.4d.com/products/Dep-comparative.html

Kind regards,

Josh Fletcher

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4D, Inc.

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Re: self-contained db for osx app

by brent1a :: Rate this Message:

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WHat you described is what I would like to do, however, I would like the "front-end" to be 100% native cocoa. I don't know if creating the whole setup thru 4d would give me that.



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From: "Josh Fletcher (4D, Inc.)" <jfletcher@...>
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Sent: Friday, June 5, 2009 2:10:04 PM
Subject: Re: self-contained db for osx app

Hi Brent,

I'm not sure I quite understand your question but see if this helps:

Brent Austin wrote:
> I am trying to put to gether a small db app for osx. Is there a way
> to configure a standalone 4d runtime application/document to include
> with the app which would be the basic db the app would access and
> write too?

It sounds like you want to use 4D as the "back-end" to some other
front-end application?

The first question I would ask is why not just build the whole thing
with 4D?  Have you run into some limitations?

You can definitely configure 4D Server v11 SQL to be a SQL server.  All
you need to do is enable the SQL Server preferences, and have the
appropriate license. You can find information about our deployment
licenses here:

http://www.4d.com/products/Dep-comparative.html

Kind regards,

Josh Fletcher

--
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Technical Services Team Member
4D, Inc.

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Re: self-contained db for osx app

by Josh Fletcher (4D, Inc) :: Rate this Message:

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4D uses Cocoa for the UI...meaning all (or at least most) of the objects
in the 4D palette behave like their native counterparts.  Plus you'd get
the benefit of an app that can run on Mac OS and Windows out of the box.

The reason I'm asking this is one of the huge advantages of 4D is the
integration with the database engine and the 4GL take on development.
You can generally build something much faster (and therefore cheaper) in
4D than you can by separating the front-end.  If you *haven't* looked
into it I recommend that you do.  But I can certainly understand that
there are situations were partitioning the app is required as well.

Kind regards,

Josh Fletcher

Brent Austin wrote:
> WHat you described is what I would like to do, however, I would like the
> "front-end" to be 100% native cocoa. I don't know if creating the whole
> setup thru 4d would give me that.

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Technical Services Team Member
4D, Inc.

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