simple-xml Debian Packaging

Hi *,

I really like simple-xml and noticed that it was not packaged for Debian yet,
so I  took this occasion to get into Debian Java Packaging.

After a few hours work the package is now uploaded to Debian and will probably
get into Debian Unstable soon - Thanks a lot to my "mentor"  Sylvestre Ledru.

But there are two questions open:

1) What is the correct license of simple-xml? Is it LGPL-2, LGPL 2.1, or
LGPL-3?

2) Debian uses a program called `uscan` for determing wheter the upstream-
package-version in Debian is up-to-date or if there is a new version
available. There is also a pre-defined mechanism to retrieve this information
for SourceForge-hosted projects, but unfortunately this does not work with
simple-xml, so that it reports:

"Newest version on remote site is 2.1.1, local version is 2.1.5
simple-xml: remote site does not even have current version"

Simple seems to have a unusual structure for the files so that uscan cannot
automatically get the latest version. Do you see any chance to resolve this
problem at your site?

Regards,
Fabian


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[niall.gallagher]

Hi,

With regards to the license there should be a LICENCE.txt in the root of the archive. With regards to the packaging so that uscan can use it, I am not sure how I should package the project. Are there guidelines on how to do this?

Niall


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-----Original Message-----
From: Fabian Köster [mailto:koesterreich@...]
Sent: 13 October 2009 21:21
To: simple-support@...
Subject: [Simple-support] simple-xml Debian Packaging

Hi *,

I really like simple-xml and noticed that it was not packaged for Debian yet, so I  took this occasion to get into Debian Java Packaging.

After a few hours work the package is now uploaded to Debian and will probably get into Debian Unstable soon - Thanks a lot to my "mentor"  Sylvestre Ledru.

But there are two questions open:

1) What is the correct license of simple-xml? Is it LGPL-2, LGPL 2.1, or LGPL-3?

2) Debian uses a program called `uscan` for determing wheter the upstream- package-version in Debian is up-to-date or if there is a new version available. There is also a pre-defined mechanism to retrieve this information for SourceForge-hosted projects, but unfortunately this does not work with simple-xml, so that it reports:

"Newest version on remote site is 2.1.1, local version is 2.1.5
simple-xml: remote site does not even have current version"

Simple seems to have a unusual structure for the files so that uscan cannot automatically get the latest version. Do you see any chance to resolve this problem at your site?

Regards,
Fabian

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Hi Niall,

> With regards to the license there should be a LICENCE.txt in the root of
>  the archive.

Sorry, but there is no LICENSE.txt in the archive. But I highly assume that it
is licensed under LGPL-2.1 because of the license-text in the source files:

"This library is free software; you can redistribute it and/or modify it under
the terms of the GNU Lesser General Public License as published by the Free
Software Foundation."

LGPL v2.0 is the GNU LIBRARY General Public License and was renamed to the GNU
LESSER General Public License in version 2.1

If it would be licensed under the LGPL v3, this would be explicetely defined.


>  With regards to the packaging so that uscan can use it, I am
>  not sure how I should package the project. Are there guidelines on how to
>  do this?

I think there are no guidelines for this, but I think uscan tries different
paths to get the latest version. Because of the fact that uscan "thinks" that
version 2.1.1 is the latest, I would suggest that you release the files like
this version, if this is OK for you.

I do not know if it is possible to move already released files on sourceforge,
but it would be nice to move at least 2.1.5 to an equal place like you did
with version 2.1.1. Otherwise it is probably OK if you do it with future
releases.

By the way: The Simple website tells that version 2.1.4 is the latest, but
there is already version 2.1.5 available in the files-section of sourceforge.

Thanks for your help!

Regards,
Fabian

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Fabian Köster [mailto:koesterreich@...]
> Sent: 13 October 2009 21:21
> To: simple-support@...
> Subject: [Simple-support] simple-xml Debian Packaging
>
> Hi *,
>
> I really like simple-xml and noticed that it was not packaged for Debian
>  yet, so I  took this occasion to get into Debian Java Packaging.
>
> After a few hours work the package is now uploaded to Debian and will
>  probably get into Debian Unstable soon - Thanks a lot to my "mentor"
>  Sylvestre Ledru.
>
> But there are two questions open:
>
> 1) What is the correct license of simple-xml? Is it LGPL-2, LGPL 2.1, or
>  LGPL-3?
>
> 2) Debian uses a program called `uscan` for determing wheter the upstream-
>  package-version in Debian is up-to-date or if there is a new version
>  available. There is also a pre-defined mechanism to retrieve this
>  information for SourceForge-hosted projects, but unfortunately this does
>  not work with simple-xml, so that it reports:
>
> "Newest version on remote site is 2.1.1, local version is 2.1.5
> simple-xml: remote site does not even have current version"
>
> Simple seems to have a unusual structure for the files so that uscan cannot
>  automatically get the latest version. Do you see any chance to resolve
>  this problem at your site?
>
> Regards,
> Fabian
>
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[niall.gallagher]

Hi,

>By the way: The Simple website tells that version 2.1.4 is the latest, but there is already version 2.1.5 available in the files-section of sourceforge.

I realise this, just have not had a chance to update the website.

Thanks,
Niall

-----Original Message-----
From: Fabian Köster [mailto:koesterreich@...]
Sent: 14 October 2009 11:36
To: GALLAGHER, Niall, GBM
Cc: simple-support@...
Subject: Re: [Simple-support] simple-xml Debian Packaging

Hi Niall,

> With regards to the license there should be a LICENCE.txt in the root
> of  the archive.

Sorry, but there is no LICENSE.txt in the archive. But I highly assume that it is licensed under LGPL-2.1 because of the license-text in the source files:

"This library is free software; you can redistribute it and/or modify it under the terms of the GNU Lesser General Public License as published by the Free Software Foundation."

LGPL v2.0 is the GNU LIBRARY General Public License and was renamed to the GNU LESSER General Public License in version 2.1

If it would be licensed under the LGPL v3, this would be explicetely defined.


>  With regards to the packaging so that uscan can use it, I am  not
> sure how I should package the project. Are there guidelines on how to  
> do this?

I think there are no guidelines for this, but I think uscan tries different paths to get the latest version. Because of the fact that uscan "thinks" that version 2.1.1 is the latest, I would suggest that you release the files like this version, if this is OK for you.

I do not know if it is possible to move already released files on sourceforge, but it would be nice to move at least 2.1.5 to an equal place like you did with version 2.1.1. Otherwise it is probably OK if you do it with future releases.

By the way: The Simple website tells that version 2.1.4 is the latest, but there is already version 2.1.5 available in the files-section of sourceforge.

Thanks for your help!

Regards,
Fabian

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Fabian Köster [mailto:koesterreich@...]
> Sent: 13 October 2009 21:21
> To: simple-support@...
> Subject: [Simple-support] simple-xml Debian Packaging
>
> Hi *,
>
> I really like simple-xml and noticed that it was not packaged for
> Debian  yet, so I  took this occasion to get into Debian Java Packaging.
>
> After a few hours work the package is now uploaded to Debian and will  
> probably get into Debian Unstable soon - Thanks a lot to my "mentor"
>  Sylvestre Ledru.
>
> But there are two questions open:
>
> 1) What is the correct license of simple-xml? Is it LGPL-2, LGPL 2.1,
> or  LGPL-3?
>
> 2) Debian uses a program called `uscan` for determing wheter the
> upstream-  package-version in Debian is up-to-date or if there is a
> new version  available. There is also a pre-defined mechanism to
> retrieve this  information for SourceForge-hosted projects, but
> unfortunately this does  not work with simple-xml, so that it reports:
>
> "Newest version on remote site is 2.1.1, local version is 2.1.5
> simple-xml: remote site does not even have current version"
>
> Simple seems to have a unusual structure for the files so that uscan
> cannot  automatically get the latest version. Do you see any chance to
> resolve  this problem at your site?
>
> Regards,
> Fabian
>
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>  Registered Office: 36 St Andrew Square, Edinburgh EH2 2YB. Authorised
> and  regulated by the Financial Services Authority.
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> return the message to the sender by replying to it and then delete the
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> secure. The Royal Bank of Scotland plc does not accept responsibility
> for changes made to this message after it was sent.
>
> Whilst all reasonable care has been taken to avoid the transmission of
> viruses, it is the responsibility of the recipient to ensure that the
> onward transmission, opening or use of this message and any
> attachments will not adversely affect its systems or data. No
> responsibility is accepted by The Royal Bank of Scotland plc in this
> regard and the recipient should carry out such virus and other checks
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