squirrel mail sucks

[jenny-31]

Dear SquirrelMail,

I must say that this email really sucks.
It's the worst I've ever experienced.

(1) When the English interface is selected, Chinese doesn't show
(2) What's up with the attachment limitation of 2 MB? Free mail already
gives more than 2 GB!
(3) How come there's no option to be able to forward squirrel mail mails
to yahoo.com or gmail? I have to switch because this is WAAAAY to hard to
use.

This is seriously not user friendly! Can you provide some real help and
not FAQ's that nobody understands?


Regards,

Jenny


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[Ralf Hildebrandt]

* jenny@... <jenny@...>:
> Dear SquirrelMail,
>
> I must say that this email really sucks.
> It's the worst I've ever experienced.
>
> (1) When the English interface is selected, Chinese doesn't show

Chinese WHAT doesn't show?

> (2) What's up with the attachment limitation of 2 MB? Free mail already
> gives more than 2 GB!

Ask your local admin

> (3) How come there's no option to be able to forward squirrel mail mails
> to yahoo.com or gmail?

Use the "forward" button

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[Juan Hernandez-3]

Dude... as follows

I must say that this email really sucks.
It's the worst I've ever experienced.

There are plenty of choices available. It's up to you to choose them. It's free software in a free world

(1) When the English interface is selected, Chinese doesn't show

Check your installation. This never happened to me and I've been using it for 7 years

(2) What's up with the attachment limitation of 2 MB? Free mail already
gives more than 2 GB!

That's up to the php.ini configuration. Limits are set by the system, not the software

(3) How come there's no option to be able to forward squirrel mail mails
to yahoo.com or gmail? I have to switch because this is WAAAAY to hard to
use.

Yes, there is. Check the plug-ins section

jhv

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[Fredrik Jervfors-4]

Hi Jenny.

> I must say that this email really sucks. It's the worst I've ever
> experienced.

I assume that you're referring to the mail system as a whole, for which
the SquirrelMail Project isn't responsible.

> (1) When the English interface is selected, Chinese doesn't show

This is not a bug in SquirrelMail. SquirrelMail can be configured to show
Chinese mails in an English interface. You need to contact your system
administrator and have him/her fix your installation.

> (2) What's up with the attachment limitation of 2 MB? Free mail already
> gives more than 2 GB!

This is not a bug in SquirrelMail. SquirrelMail can be configured to have
as large attachments as you want. You need to contact your system
administrator and have him/her fix your installation.

> (3) How come there's no option to be able to forward squirrel mail mails
> to yahoo.com or gmail?

SquirrelMail is not a mail server - only the user interface. Mail
forwarding is done at the mail server. You need to contact your system
administrator and have him/her fix forwarding at the mail server.

> I have to switch because this is WAAAAY to hard to use.

Do you have examples on what you're trying to achieve that is way too
hard? The three issues above are not problems with SquirrelMail per se.

> This is seriously not user friendly! Can you provide some real help and
> not FAQ's that nobody understands?

I get the feeling that you're an end user, so I understand that the
information at <squirrelmail.org>, which is written for system
administrators who are installing and configuring SquirrelMail, and the
supporting their users (users such as yourself), is a bit off-topic for
you. The FAQ is easily understood by system administrators.

"If you're using SquirrelMail to read and write mails, but someone else
manages the SquirrelMail installation you're using, you're an end user.
SquirrelMail is typically installed for end users by their employer, the
school they attend, some organization that the end user is a member of, a
hosting company, or an Internet Service Provider (ISP).

Help for end users are acquired in two steps:
1. Read the documentation
2. Contact your mail system administrator"
<http://squirrelmail.org/support/enduser.php>

Sincerely,
Fredrik

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[Fredrik Jervfors-4]

>> I must say that this email really sucks. It's the worst I've ever
>> experienced.
>
> I assume that you're referring to the mail system as a whole, for which
> the SquirrelMail Project isn't responsible.
>
>> (1) When the English interface is selected, Chinese doesn't show
>
> This is not a bug in SquirrelMail. SquirrelMail can be configured to show
> Chinese mails in an English interface. You need to contact your system
> administrator and have him/her fix your installation.
>
>> (2) What's up with the attachment limitation of 2 MB? Free mail already
>>  gives more than 2 GB!
>
> This is not a bug in SquirrelMail. SquirrelMail can be configured to have
> as large attachments as you want. You need to contact your system
> administrator and have him/her fix your installation.
>
>> (3) How come there's no option to be able to forward squirrel mail
>> mails to yahoo.com or gmail?
>
> SquirrelMail is not a mail server - only the user interface. Mail
> forwarding is done at the mail server. You need to contact your system
> administrator and have him/her fix forwarding at the mail server.

I assumed that you wanted to forward _every_ mail to a certain mail
address to another address at Gmail or Yahoo! If not, use the "forward"
button to manually forward mails one by one.

>> I have to switch because this is WAAAAY to hard to use.
>
> Do you have examples on what you're trying to achieve that is way too
> hard? The three issues above are not problems with SquirrelMail per se.
>
>> This is seriously not user friendly! Can you provide some real help and
>>  not FAQ's that nobody understands?
>
> I get the feeling that you're an end user, so I understand that the
> information at <squirrelmail.org>, which is written for system
> administrators who are installing and configuring SquirrelMail, and the
> supporting their users (users such as yourself), is a bit off-topic for
> you. The FAQ is easily understood by system administrators.
>
> "If you're using SquirrelMail to read and write mails, but someone else
> manages the SquirrelMail installation you're using, you're an end user.
> SquirrelMail is typically installed for end users by their employer, the
> school they attend, some organization that the end user is a member of, a
> hosting company, or an Internet Service Provider (ISP).
>
> Help for end users are acquired in two steps:
> 1. Read the documentation
> 2. Contact your mail system administrator"
> <http://squirrelmail.org/support/enduser.php>

Sincerely,
Fredrik

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[Jukka Salmi-25]

Hello,

jenny@... --> SquirrelMail-users (2009-06-09 15:40:25 +0800):
> I must say that this email really sucks.

indeed, your email sucks.  But why did you write it then?


Regards, Jukka

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[Karl Pearson]

On Wed, June 10, 2009 1:28 pm, Jukka Salmi wrote:
> Hello,
>
> jenny@... --> SquirrelMail-users (2009-06-09 15:40:25
> +0800):
>> I must say that this email really sucks.
>
> indeed, your email sucks.  But why did you write it then?

Yes! Someone who figured out what she really meant!

I LOVE SQUIRRELMAIL!!!! I have a product that's free, that I can share
with my users, also for FREE, and customize to behave like just about
any email client I can ask for. How Cool Is That!?!?

Of course, running my own server means the plugins all work, and the
attachment size is about 1GB and whatever else I want happens as I want
it.

Karl

>
>
> Regards, Jukka
>
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[Res-2]

On Wed, 10 Jun 2009, Fredrik Jervfors wrote:

> Hi Jenny.
>
>> I must say that this email really sucks. It's the worst I've ever
>> experienced.
>
> I assume that you're referring to the mail system as a whole, for which
> the SquirrelMail Project isn't responsible.
>
>> (1) When the English interface is selected, Chinese doesn't show
>
> This is not a bug in SquirrelMail. SquirrelMail can be configured to show
> Chinese mails in an English interface. You need to contact your system
> administrator and have him/her fix your installation.
>
>> (2) What's up with the attachment limitation of 2 MB? Free mail already
>> gives more than 2 GB!
>
> This is not a bug in SquirrelMail. SquirrelMail can be configured to have
> as large attachments as you want. You need to contact your system
> administrator and have him/her fix your installation.
>
>> (3) How come there's no option to be able to forward squirrel mail mails
>> to yahoo.com or gmail?
>
> SquirrelMail is not a mail server - only the user interface. Mail
> forwarding is done at the mail server. You need to contact your system
> administrator and have him/her fix forwarding at the mail server.
>

This reminds me of the techsupport comedy sketch that did the rounds years
ago, the reply to come back is  "Oh but I am the system administrator"
*giggles*



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[Nieuwslezer]

You wrote:

>
> On Wed, June 10, 2009 1:28 pm, Jukka Salmi wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > jenny@... --> SquirrelMail-users (2009-06-09 15:40:25
> > +0800):
> > > I must say that this email really sucks.
> >
> > indeed, your email sucks.  But why did you write it then?
>
> Yes! Someone who figured out what she really meant!
>
> I LOVE SQUIRRELMAIL!!!! I have a product that's free, that I can share
> with my users, also for FREE, and customize to behave like just about any
> email client I can ask for. How Cool Is That!?!?

Does that include a plugin that allows you to hide all mail that has already
been read?

>
> Of course, running my own server means the plugins all work, and the
> attachment size is about 1GB and whatever else I want happens as I want
> it.
>
> Karl
>
> >
> >
> > Regards, Jukka
> >
> > -- This email fills a much-needed gap in the archives.
> >
>

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[Marc Powell]

On Jun 11, 2009, at 6:13 AM, Nieuwslezer wrote:

> You wrote:
>
>>
>> On Wed, June 10, 2009 1:28 pm, Jukka Salmi wrote:

>> I LOVE SQUIRRELMAIL!!!! I have a product that's free, that I can  
>> share
>> with my users, also for FREE, and customize to behave like just  
>> about any
>> email client I can ask for. How Cool Is That!?!?
>
> Does that include a plugin that allows you to hide all mail that has  
> already
> been read?

Like a Trash can? I think I've seen that somewhere before.

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[Karl Pearson]

On Thu, June 11, 2009 5:13 am, Nieuwslezer wrote:

> You wrote:
>
>>
>> On Wed, June 10, 2009 1:28 pm, Jukka Salmi wrote:
>> > Hello,
>> >
>> > jenny@... --> SquirrelMail-users (2009-06-09 15:40:25
>> > +0800):
>> > > I must say that this email really sucks.
>> >
>> > indeed, your email sucks.  But why did you write it then?
>>
>> Yes! Someone who figured out what she really meant!
>>
>> I LOVE SQUIRRELMAIL!!!! I have a product that's free, that I can share
>> with my users, also for FREE, and customize to behave like just about
>> any
>> email client I can ask for. How Cool Is That!?!?
>
> Does that include a plugin that allows you to hide all mail that has
> already
> been read?

Every mail client has that option already. It's called "Delete and move
to next" or move to some folder or whatever.

>
>>
>> Of course, running my own server means the plugins all work, and the
>> attachment size is about 1GB and whatever else I want happens as I
>> want
>> it.
>>
>> Karl
>>
>> >
>> >
>> > Regards, Jukka
>> >
>> > -- This email fills a much-needed gap in the archives.
>> >
>>
>
> --
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>
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[Nieuwslezer]

You wrote:

>
> On Thu, June 11, 2009 5:13 am, Nieuwslezer wrote:
> > You wrote:
> >
> >>
> > > On Wed, June 10, 2009 1:28 pm, Jukka Salmi wrote:
> > > > Hello,
> >> >
> > > > jenny@... --> SquirrelMail-users (2009-06-09 15:40:25
> > > > +0800):
> > > > > I must say that this email really sucks.
> >> >
> > > > indeed, your email sucks.  But why did you write it then?
> >>
> > > Yes! Someone who figured out what she really meant!
> >>
> > > I LOVE SQUIRRELMAIL!!!! I have a product that's free, that I can share
> > > with my users, also for FREE, and customize to behave like just about
> > > any email client I can ask for. How Cool Is That!?!?
> >
> > Does that include a plugin that allows you to hide all mail that has
> > already been read?
>
> Every mail client has that option already. It's called "Delete and move to
> next" or move to some folder or whatever.
>

Squirellmail IS a client, and as far as know does not have the ability to
hide read messages.

Funny thing is that I do se replies to my posting, but have not seen my own
posting on this list.


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[Juan Hernandez-3]

ehh are we going to keep this threat alive by answering to all this pointless BS?

On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 12:45 PM, Karl Pearson <karlp@...> wrote:

On Thu, June 11, 2009 5:13 am, Nieuwslezer wrote:
> You wrote:
>
>>
>> On Wed, June 10, 2009 1:28 pm, Jukka Salmi wrote:
>> > Hello,
>> >
>> > jenny@... --> SquirrelMail-users (2009-06-09 15:40:25
>> > +0800):
>> > > I must say that this email really sucks.
>> >
>> > indeed, your email sucks.  But why did you write it then?
>>
>> Yes! Someone who figured out what she really meant!
>>
>> I LOVE SQUIRRELMAIL!!!! I have a product that's free, that I can share
>> with my users, also for FREE, and customize to behave like just about
>> any
>> email client I can ask for. How Cool Is That!?!?
>
> Does that include a plugin that allows you to hide all mail that has
> already
> been read?

Every mail client has that option already. It's called "Delete and move
to next" or move to some folder or whatever.

>
>>
>> Of course, running my own server means the plugins all work, and the
>> attachment size is about 1GB and whatever else I want happens as I
>> want
>> it.
>>
>> Karl
>>
>> >
>> >
>> > Regards, Jukka
>> >
>> > -- This email fills a much-needed gap in the archives.
>> >
>>
>
> --
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>
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[Chris Hilts]

Juan Hernandez wrote:
> ehh are we going to keep this threat alive by answering to all this
> pointless BS?

No, of course not.


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