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sshd - inconsistent app behavior vs console

by Larkin Lowrey-2 :: Rate this Message:

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I am trying to setup remote backups using vshadow.exe to create a drive
snapshot (Volume Shadow Copy Service). When I run vshadow from a console
bash prompt it works fine, but if I ssh to the host and run it remotely
it does not.

It appears that there is something different between the bash
environment I get via sshd and the one I get by opening the bash prompt
via the start menu. I have verified that the bash.exe process that runs
when I ssh is owned by my user account and other than some differences
in environment variables, I can't see any difference between the bash
processes. Everything else I've tried via ssh has worked ok.

I believe that vshadow does interact with other services on the host. I
did come across some prior messages in the list archive that suggested
there was a problem with this via sshd. I was not able to find any clear
answers.

Any ideas??

I'm running the latest cygwin code on Windows XP sp2. I don't think
there is anything special or unusual about my setup.

Here's what I get when I run vshadow from an ssh session. I get the same
error on two different hosts.

$ ./vshadow.exe c:

VSHADOW.EXE 2.2 - Volume Shadow Copy sample client
Copyright (C) 2005 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.


(Option: Create shadow copy set)
(Gathering writer metadata...)
(Waiting for the asynchronous operation to finish...)
Error during the last asynchronous operation.
- Returned HRESULT = 0x80042318
- Error text: VSS_E_WRITER_INFRASTRUCTURE
- Please re-run VSHADOW.EXE with the /tracing option to get more details

--Larkin

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Re: sshd - inconsistent app behavior vs console

by Larry Hall (Cygwin-X) :: Rate this Message:

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Larkin Lowrey wrote:
> I am trying to setup remote backups using vshadow.exe to create a drive
> snapshot (Volume Shadow Copy Service). When I run vshadow from a console
> bash prompt it works fine, but if I ssh to the host and run it remotely
> it does not.


You've left allot for us to infer from your description, including your
Cygwin configuration (sshd and general), how you ssh in (password or
pubkey), and even what vshadow is!  I'd recommend a read through of
the problem reporting guidelines found here:


> Problem reports:       http://cygwin.com/problems.html


My WAG is that you're using pubkey authentication.  If so, try password.


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Re: sshd - inconsistent app behavior vs console

by Larkin Lowrey-2 :: Rate this Message:

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Larry Hall (Cygwin) wrote:
> You've left allot for us to infer from your description, including your
> Cygwin configuration (sshd and general), how you ssh in (password or
> pubkey), and even what vshadow is!  I'd recommend a read through of
> the problem reporting guidelines found here:
>> Problem reports:       http://cygwin.com/problems.html
> My WAG is that you're using pubkey authentication.  If so, try password.
I apologize for not providing enough information but you did come up
with the correct reason. When I logged in via password, and not public
key, the vshadow program did function correctly.

After doing some searching I have concluded that this operation is not
possible using public key authentication.

--Larkin

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Re: sshd - inconsistent app behavior vs console

by Larry Hall (Cygwin-X) :: Rate this Message:

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Larkin Lowrey wrote:

> Larry Hall (Cygwin) wrote:
>> You've left allot for us to infer from your description, including your
>> Cygwin configuration (sshd and general), how you ssh in (password or
>> pubkey), and even what vshadow is!  I'd recommend a read through of
>> the problem reporting guidelines found here:
>>> Problem reports:       http://cygwin.com/problems.html
>> My WAG is that you're using pubkey authentication.  If so, try password.
> I apologize for not providing enough information but you did come up
> with the correct reason. When I logged in via password, and not public
> key, the vshadow program did function correctly.
>
> After doing some searching I have concluded that this operation is not
> possible using public key authentication.


Right.  Not in 1.5.x.


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 > Q: Are you sure?
 >> A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation.
 >>> Q: Why is top posting annoying in email?

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Re: sshd - inconsistent app behavior vs console

by barboles :: Rate this Message:

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Hello, I've got the same problem. Does Anybody know the solution? how Can I resolve this problem?
please help me?

Larry Hall (Cygwin) wrote:
Larkin Lowrey wrote:
> Larry Hall (Cygwin) wrote:
>> You've left allot for us to infer from your description, including your
>> Cygwin configuration (sshd and general), how you ssh in (password or
>> pubkey), and even what vshadow is!  I'd recommend a read through of
>> the problem reporting guidelines found here:
>>> Problem reports:       http://cygwin.com/problems.html
>> My WAG is that you're using pubkey authentication.  If so, try password.
> I apologize for not providing enough information but you did come up
> with the correct reason. When I logged in via password, and not public
> key, the vshadow program did function correctly.
>
> After doing some searching I have concluded that this operation is not
> possible using public key authentication.


Right.  Not in 1.5.x.


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A: Yes.
 > Q: Are you sure?
 >> A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation.
 >>> Q: Why is top posting annoying in email?

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Re: sshd - inconsistent app behavior vs console

by Derek Lei Liu :: Rate this Message:

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This problem has dragged me for a long time. ( i was trying to make
devenv.exe work through sshd on cygwin). My conclusion is that you can use
password authentication, otherwise it won't work. (if you use password
authentication, it should work, otherwise you have different problem). My
understanding of the problem is that: sshd is running under a system user
which is SYSTEM on your windows. So if you are using a different user, say
JohnSmith, to ssh log in, and you are not using password authentication, you
are in fact not properly authenticated with Windows. So windows still
consider your session is under SYSTEM, not JohnSmith. (to verify that, once
you ssh in and got a bash shell, look at USERNAME). Only if you use password
authentication and explicitly typed the password, Windows can get you
authenticated properly and then your ssh session is running under JohnSmith.
This user difference caused some application (in my case devenv.exe)
permission problem and the application can not run correctly.

So now, i am using Expect to explicitly "type" password to emulate
passwordless log in, to some extend.

Derek
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From: "barboles" <enrique7199@...>
To: <cygwin@...>
Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2007 10:58 AM
Subject: Re: sshd - inconsistent app behavior vs console


>
> Hello, I've got the same problem. Does Anybody know the solution? how Can
> I
> resolve this problem?
> please help me?
>
>
> Larry Hall (Cygwin) wrote:
>>
>> Larkin Lowrey wrote:
>>> Larry Hall (Cygwin) wrote:
>>>> You've left allot for us to infer from your description, including your
>>>> Cygwin configuration (sshd and general), how you ssh in (password or
>>>> pubkey), and even what vshadow is!  I'd recommend a read through of
>>>> the problem reporting guidelines found here:
>>>>> Problem reports:       http://cygwin.com/problems.html
>>>> My WAG is that you're using pubkey authentication.  If so, try
>>>> password.
>>> I apologize for not providing enough information but you did come up
>>> with the correct reason. When I logged in via password, and not public
>>> key, the vshadow program did function correctly.
>>>
>>> After doing some searching I have concluded that this operation is not
>>> possible using public key authentication.
>>
>>
>> Right.  Not in 1.5.x.
>>
>>
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>> RFK Partners, Inc.                      (508) 893-9779 - RFK Office
>> 216 Dalton Rd.                          (508) 893-9889 - FAX
>> Holliston, MA 01746
>>
>> _____________________________________________________________________
>>
>> A: Yes.
>>  > Q: Are you sure?
>>  >> A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation.
>>  >>> Q: Why is top posting annoying in email?
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