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static websites - was: wordpress security

by Chuck Peters :: Rate this Message:

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On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 4:40 PM, Otto <otto@...> wrote:

> On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 2:22 PM, Stephen Rider
> <wp-hackers@...> wrote:
> > But as such we must accept that many users are using
> > WordPress to set up their sites, and edit them when needed, but are NOT
> > routinely adding new content, /a la/ a blog.  In such circumstances, a
> site
> > can **easily** go two months without being updated.
>
> IMO, such a site should not be using WordPress.
>
> If you're going to make a static site, WordPress is not the correct
> tool for the job.
>

Do others agree?

If wordpress isn't best for static sites, what would you recommend?

I am asking because we want to update a mostly static site we have had for
years.  Over time we added a news feed to some of the pages and via cron and
php to write out static html pages.  It would be really nice to get
something setup which made it easier for Kathy to edit the site.  Whatever
it is, it needs to be low cost or free and I would prefer it has a GPL. One
of the reasons I don't want to use wordpress for the old static site is I
would like to keep the old http://domain/dir/page.html and not use
redirects.


Chuck
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Re: static websites - was: wordpress security

by mccormicky :: Rate this Message:

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Maybe Otto meant that sites that stay stagnant for a long time shouldn't be
built with WP for security reasons because admins aren't going to log in
often enough to keep them safe and current with the latest WP releases?

I can't speak for him but this is my opinion:
I think moving your backlog of static html pages into WP makes a lot of
sense because you can have such easy access to them via the WP dashboard if
you ever need to add a new Page or edit an already published Page.

And you can use Posts and put %postname%.html as the permalink (works on
Posts) you'll get http://domain/dir/postname.html
or use the plugin .html on pages  you'll get
http://domain/dir/pagename.htmland you won't have to deal with
redirects.

I've been able to keep my clients very happy transferring mainly static
sites to WP -- never had a complaint yet!


On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 7:30 PM, Chuck Peters <cp@...> wrote:

> On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 4:40 PM, Otto <otto@...> wrote:
>
> > On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 2:22 PM, Stephen Rider
> > <wp-hackers@...> wrote:
> > > But as such we must accept that many users are using
> > > WordPress to set up their sites, and edit them when needed, but are NOT
> > > routinely adding new content, /a la/ a blog.  In such circumstances, a
> > site
> > > can **easily** go two months without being updated.
> >
> > IMO, such a site should not be using WordPress.
> >
> > If you're going to make a static site, WordPress is not the correct
> > tool for the job.
> >
>
> Do others agree?
>
> If wordpress isn't best for static sites, what would you recommend?
>
> I am asking because we want to update a mostly static site we have had for
> years.  Over time we added a news feed to some of the pages and via cron
> and
> php to write out static html pages.  It would be really nice to get
> something setup which made it easier for Kathy to edit the site.  Whatever
> it is, it needs to be low cost or free and I would prefer it has a GPL. One
> of the reasons I don't want to use wordpress for the old static site is I
> would like to keep the old http://domain/dir/page.html and not use
> redirects.
>
>
> Chuck
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Re: static websites - was: wordpress security

by Jeremy Visser-2 :: Rate this Message:

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On Wed, 2009-10-21 at 19:47 -0400, mccormicky wrote:
> And you can use Posts and put %postname%.html as the permalink (works on
> Posts) you'll get http://domain/dir/postname.html
> or use the plugin .html on pages  you'll get
> http://domain/dir/pagename.html and you won't have to deal with
> redirects.

That doesn't work for static pages.

(You could possibly add a .html to the end of the slug, but that would
have to be done manually for each page.)

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Re: static websites - was: wordpress security

by Jennifer Hodgdon :: Rate this Message:

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> On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 4:40 PM, Otto <otto@...> wrote:
>> If you're going to make a static site, WordPress is not the correct
>> tool for the job.

Chuck Peters wrote:
> Do others agree?

Not everyone agrees with that statement.

My opinion is that for a simple "brochure-ware" site (I hesitate to
call it "static", since of course you can edit the content), WordPress
can be a good tool, if:

- You want to give some small subset of admins a way to edit the
content on the pages via the web (i.e. you need a CMS of some sort).

- You don't envision adding a lot of features to your site beyond
"display some pages" (i.e. you only need a simple CMS tool).

- You want to invest the time/money to create a good-looking theme.

- You plan to keep up with security fixes, updates, etc.

     --Jennifer

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Re: static websites - was: wordpress security

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The plugin  ".html on pages"  works on static pages. I've tried it and it
does work.


On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 7:48 PM, Jeremy Visser <jeremy@...> wrote:

> On Wed, 2009-10-21 at 19:47 -0400, mccormicky wrote:
> > And you can use Posts and put %postname%.html as the permalink (works on
> > Posts) you'll get http://domain/dir/postname.html
> > or use the plugin .html on pages  you'll get
> > http://domain/dir/pagename.html and you won't have to deal with
> > redirects.
>
> That doesn't work for static pages.
>
> (You could possibly add a .html to the end of the slug, but that would
> have to be done manually for each page.)
>
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Re: static websites - was: wordpress security

by Mike Little :: Rate this Message:

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2009/10/22 mccormicky <mccormicky@...>

> The plugin  ".html on pages"  works on static pages. I've tried it and it
> does work.
>
>
>
This one -  http://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/html-on-pages/



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