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symposium thought
by Sam Pluta
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hey all,
i just wanted to write a quick note about the symposium this past weekend. i said this to a couple of people, but what impressed me most about this gathering was how wonderfully different everyone's work was. nothing presented was at all similar to anything else - with people doing everything from live coding to installations to interface driven performance to live manipulation - and this is a sign that we are on to something as a group. thanks for that, i had a great time, sam www.wetink.org www.sampluta.com www.carrierrecords.com myspace.com/glissandobinladen _______________________________________________ sc-users mailing list info (subscription, etc.): http://www.beast.bham.ac.uk/research/sc_mailing_lists.shtml archive: http://www.listarc.bham.ac.uk/marchives/sc-users/ search: http://www.listarc.bham.ac.uk/lists/sc-users/search/ |
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Re: symposium thought
by James Harkins-2
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+1 -- I really appreciated seeing the hugely divergent ways we are using this fantastic tool. In response to Andrea's question about notes on the symposium: I've started on something here: hjh On Apr 14, 2009, at 1:34 AM, Sam Pluta wrote:
: H. James Harkins .::!:.:.......:.::........:..!.::.::...:..:...:.:.:.:..: "Come said the Muse, Sing me a song no poet has yet chanted, Sing me the universal." -- Whitman |
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Re: symposium thought
by loriend
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A comment here as you've turned them off there:
I read about the single sample SC in computer music journal just yesterday and thought to myself what a wonderful thing the Low Level Virtual Machine project (http://llvm.org) with it's optimisers and JIT compilers could be for both sclang and scsynth. No need for C code these days :) cheers, Lorien James Harkins wrote: > +1 -- I really appreciated seeing the hugely divergent ways we are > using this fantastic tool. > > In response to Andrea's question about notes on the symposium: I've > started on something here: > > http://www.dewdrop-world.net/words/ > > hjh > > > On Apr 14, 2009, at 1:34 AM, Sam Pluta wrote: > >> hey all, >> >> i just wanted to write a quick note about the symposium this past >> weekend. i said this to a couple of people, but what impressed me >> most about this gathering was how wonderfully different everyone's >> work was. nothing presented was at all similar to anything else - >> with people doing everything from live coding to installations to >> interface driven performance to live manipulation - and this is a >> sign that we are on to something as a group. > > > : H. James Harkins > : jamshark70@... <mailto:jamshark70@...> > : http://www.dewdrop-world.net > .::!:.:.......:.::........:..!.::.::...:..:...:.:.:.:..: > > "Come said the Muse, > Sing me a song no poet has yet chanted, > Sing me the universal." -- Whitman > _______________________________________________ sc-users mailing list info (subscription, etc.): http://www.beast.bham.ac.uk/research/sc_mailing_lists.shtml archive: http://www.listarc.bham.ac.uk/marchives/sc-users/ search: http://www.listarc.bham.ac.uk/lists/sc-users/search/ |
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Re: symposium thought
by Click Nilson
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On this note, many thanks to Sam for his help in Manhattan, and to
Ron and the Wesleyan team for all their hard work for the symposium itself! On 14 Apr 2009, at 06:34, Sam Pluta wrote: > hey all, > > i just wanted to write a quick note about the symposium this past > weekend. i said this to a couple of people, but what impressed me > most about this gathering was how wonderfully different everyone's > work was. nothing presented was at all similar to anything else - > with people doing everything from live coding to installations to > interface driven performance to live manipulation - and this is a > sign that we are on to something as a group. > > thanks for that, > i had a great time, > > sam > > www.wetink.org > www.sampluta.com > www.carrierrecords.com > myspace.com/glissandobinladen > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > sc-users mailing list > > info (subscription, etc.): http://www.beast.bham.ac.uk/research/ > sc_mailing_lists.shtml > archive: http://www.listarc.bham.ac.uk/marchives/sc-users/ > search: http://www.listarc.bham.ac.uk/lists/sc-users/search/ _______________________________________________ sc-users mailing list info (subscription, etc.): http://www.beast.bham.ac.uk/research/sc_mailing_lists.shtml archive: http://www.listarc.bham.ac.uk/marchives/sc-users/ search: http://www.listarc.bham.ac.uk/lists/sc-users/search/ |
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Re: symposium thought
by Dan Stowell
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Sam you're right, there was an astonishing lack of deja-vu in the
conference sessions - the diversity was great. Props to everyone for all the fascinating topics, and thanks to everyone who organised and helped run stuff. Dan 2009/4/14, Sam Pluta <spluta@...>: > hey all, > > i just wanted to write a quick note about the symposium this past weekend. > i said this to a couple of people, but what impressed me most about this > gathering was how wonderfully different everyone's work was. nothing > presented was at all similar to anything else - with people doing everything > from live coding to installations to interface driven performance to live > manipulation - and this is a sign that we are on to something as a group. > > thanks for that, > i had a great time, > > sam > > www.wetink.org > www.sampluta.com > www.carrierrecords.com > myspace.com/glissandobinladen > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > sc-users mailing list > > info (subscription, etc.): > http://www.beast.bham.ac.uk/research/sc_mailing_lists.shtml > archive: http://www.listarc.bham.ac.uk/marchives/sc-users/ > search: > http://www.listarc.bham.ac.uk/lists/sc-users/search/ > -- http://www.mcld.co.uk _______________________________________________ sc-users mailing list info (subscription, etc.): http://www.beast.bham.ac.uk/research/sc_mailing_lists.shtml archive: http://www.listarc.bham.ac.uk/marchives/sc-users/ search: http://www.listarc.bham.ac.uk/lists/sc-users/search/ |
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Re: symposium thought
by Scott Wilson-3
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As I've said before to some of you, I think one of the most wonderful
things about the symposium is it's not about a particular style. If anything, it's about a mindset (to which SC is appealing). S. On 14 Apr 2009, at 19:41, Dan Stowell wrote: > Sam you're right, there was an astonishing lack of deja-vu in the > conference sessions - the diversity was great. Props to everyone for > all the fascinating topics, and thanks to everyone who organised and > helped run stuff. > > Dan > > > 2009/4/14, Sam Pluta <spluta@...>: >> hey all, >> >> i just wanted to write a quick note about the symposium this past >> weekend. >> i said this to a couple of people, but what impressed me most about >> this >> gathering was how wonderfully different everyone's work was. nothing >> presented was at all similar to anything else - with people doing >> everything >> from live coding to installations to interface driven performance >> to live >> manipulation - and this is a sign that we are on to something as a >> group. >> >> thanks for that, >> i had a great time, >> >> sam >> >> www.wetink.org >> www.sampluta.com >> www.carrierrecords.com >> myspace.com/glissandobinladen >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> sc-users mailing list >> >> info (subscription, etc.): >> http://www.beast.bham.ac.uk/research/sc_mailing_lists.shtml >> archive: http://www.listarc.bham.ac.uk/marchives/sc-users/ >> search: >> http://www.listarc.bham.ac.uk/lists/sc-users/search/ >> > > > -- > http://www.mcld.co.uk > > _______________________________________________ > sc-users mailing list > > info (subscription, etc.): http://www.beast.bham.ac.uk/research/sc_mailing_lists.shtml > archive: http://www.listarc.bham.ac.uk/marchives/sc-users/ > search: http://www.listarc.bham.ac.uk/lists/sc-users/search/ _______________________________________________ sc-users mailing list info (subscription, etc.): http://www.beast.bham.ac.uk/research/sc_mailing_lists.shtml archive: http://www.listarc.bham.ac.uk/marchives/sc-users/ search: http://www.listarc.bham.ac.uk/lists/sc-users/search/ |
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Re: symposium thought
by Dan Stowell
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PS blogged:
http://www.mcld.co.uk/blog/blog.php?247 2009/4/14, Scott Wilson <s.d.wilson.1@...>: > As I've said before to some of you, I think one of the most wonderful things > about the symposium is it's not about a particular style. If anything, it's > about a mindset (to which SC is appealing). > > S. > > > On 14 Apr 2009, at 19:41, Dan Stowell wrote: > > > > Sam you're right, there was an astonishing lack of deja-vu in the > > conference sessions - the diversity was great. Props to everyone for > > all the fascinating topics, and thanks to everyone who organised and > > helped run stuff. > > > > Dan > > > > > > 2009/4/14, Sam Pluta <spluta@...>: > > > > > hey all, > > > > > > i just wanted to write a quick note about the symposium this past > weekend. > > > i said this to a couple of people, but what impressed me most about this > > > gathering was how wonderfully different everyone's work was. nothing > > > presented was at all similar to anything else - with people doing > everything > > > from live coding to installations to interface driven performance to > live > > > manipulation - and this is a sign that we are on to something as a > group. > > > > > > thanks for that, > > > i had a great time, > > > > > > sam > > > > > > www.wetink.org > > > www.sampluta.com > > > www.carrierrecords.com > > > myspace.com/glissandobinladen > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > sc-users mailing list > > > > > > info (subscription, etc.): > > > > http://www.beast.bham.ac.uk/research/sc_mailing_lists.shtml > > > archive: > http://www.listarc.bham.ac.uk/marchives/sc-users/ > > > search: > > > http://www.listarc.bham.ac.uk/lists/sc-users/search/ > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > http://www.mcld.co.uk > > > > _______________________________________________ > > sc-users mailing list > > > > info (subscription, etc.): > http://www.beast.bham.ac.uk/research/sc_mailing_lists.shtml > > archive: > http://www.listarc.bham.ac.uk/marchives/sc-users/ > > search: > http://www.listarc.bham.ac.uk/lists/sc-users/search/ > > > > > _______________________________________________ > sc-users mailing list > > info (subscription, etc.): > http://www.beast.bham.ac.uk/research/sc_mailing_lists.shtml > archive: http://www.listarc.bham.ac.uk/marchives/sc-users/ > search: > http://www.listarc.bham.ac.uk/lists/sc-users/search/ > -- http://www.mcld.co.uk _______________________________________________ sc-users mailing list info (subscription, etc.): http://www.beast.bham.ac.uk/research/sc_mailing_lists.shtml archive: http://www.listarc.bham.ac.uk/marchives/sc-users/ search: http://www.listarc.bham.ac.uk/lists/sc-users/search/ |
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Re: symposium thought
by andrea valle-3
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(Thanks James)
Lorien, humble question: really cannot understand a word, but curious.... -a- On 14 Apr 2009, at 15:47, Lorien Dunn wrote:
-------------------------------------------------- Andrea Valle -------------------------------------------------- CIRMA - DAMS Università degli Studi di Torino --> andrea.valle@... -------------------------------------------------- " This is a very complicated case, Maude. You know, a lotta ins, a lotta outs, a lotta what-have-yous." (Jeffrey 'The Dude' Lebowski) |
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LLVM and supercollider. Was Re: symposium thought
by loriend
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OK,
LLVM is a C++ library that could be linked with sclang and scsynth that would provide highly optimised just in time compiled native code. It's getting used in "nextgen" scripting languages like the rubinius ruby vm (google it if interested). In sclang what would have to happen is either 1)the current bytecode would have to be translated into llvm bytecode inside sclang before passing it over to the llvm compilation process. 2)the sclang virtual machine could be ditched entirely and sclang code compiled directly to LLVM bytecode, before being handed over to the llvm compilation process. either way would result in a very big speed boost for sclang. For scsynth: How'd you like to write unit generators in sclang? They could probably be made to run faster than those written in C++: instead of each unit generator being optimised by a C++ compiler in isolation, all the graphs on scsynth could be just in time compiled and optimised as one whole program. You could do the single sample stuff without anything like the compilation/link/load into process latency mentioned as the killer in that keynote (that alas I didn't see being in Melbourne). It would also speed up block based ugen graphs, but who knows how much by. For both scsynth and sclang it would take quite a bit of work, but the results could be spectacular I think. Lorien Andrea Valle wrote: > (Thanks James) > > Lorien, humble question: really cannot understand a word, but curious.... > > -a- > > > On 14 Apr 2009, at 15:47, Lorien Dunn wrote: > >> A comment here as you've turned them off there: >> >> I read about the single sample SC in computer music journal just >> yesterday and thought to myself what a wonderful thing the Low Level >> Virtual Machine project (http://llvm.org) with it's optimisers and >> JIT compilers could be for both sclang and scsynth. No need for C >> code these days :) >> >> >> cheers, >> Lorien >> >> James Harkins wrote: >>> +1 -- I really appreciated seeing the hugely divergent ways we are >>> using this fantastic tool. >>> >>> In response to Andrea's question about notes on the symposium: I've >>> started on something here: >>> >>> http://www.dewdrop-world.net/words/ >>> >>> hjh >>> >>> >>> On Apr 14, 2009, at 1:34 AM, Sam Pluta wrote: >>> >>>> hey all, >>>> >>>> i just wanted to write a quick note about the symposium this past >>>> weekend. i said this to a couple of people, but what impressed me >>>> most about this gathering was how wonderfully different everyone's >>>> work was. nothing presented was at all similar to anything else - >>>> with people doing everything from live coding to installations to >>>> interface driven performance to live manipulation - and this is a >>>> sign that we are on to something as a group. >>> >>> >>> : H. James Harkins >>> : jamshark70@... <mailto:jamshark70@...> >>> : http://www.dewdrop-world.net >>> .::!:.:.......:.::........:..!.::.::...:..:...:.:.:.:..: >>> >>> "Come said the Muse, >>> Sing me a song no poet has yet chanted, >>> Sing me the universal." -- Whitman >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> sc-users mailing list >> >> info (subscription, etc.): >> http://www.beast.bham.ac.uk/research/sc_mailing_lists.shtml >> archive: http://www.listarc.bham.ac.uk/marchives/sc-users/ >> search: http://www.listarc.bham.ac.uk/lists/sc-users/search/ > > -------------------------------------------------- > Andrea Valle > -------------------------------------------------- > CIRMA - DAMS > Università degli Studi di Torino > --> http://www.cirma.unito.it/andrea/ > --> http://www.myspace.com/andreavalle > --> http://www.flickr.com/photos/vanderaalle/ > --> http://www.youtube.com/user/vanderaalle > --> andrea.valle@... <mailto:andrea.valle@...> > -------------------------------------------------- > " This is a very complicated case, Maude. You know, a lotta ins, a > lotta outs, a lotta what-have-yous." > (Jeffrey 'The Dude' Lebowski) > _______________________________________________ sc-users mailing list info (subscription, etc.): http://www.beast.bham.ac.uk/research/sc_mailing_lists.shtml archive: http://www.listarc.bham.ac.uk/marchives/sc-users/ search: http://www.listarc.bham.ac.uk/lists/sc-users/search/ |
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Re: LLVM and supercollider. Was Re: symposium thought
by andrea valle-3
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Thanks, I grasped the concept
Best -a- On 15 Apr 2009, at 10:32, Lorien Dunn wrote:
-------------------------------------------------- Andrea Valle -------------------------------------------------- CIRMA - DAMS Università degli Studi di Torino --> andrea.valle@... -------------------------------------------------- " This is a very complicated case, Maude. You know, a lotta ins, a lotta outs, a lotta what-have-yous." (Jeffrey 'The Dude' Lebowski) |
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Re: symposium thought
by james mccartney
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On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 6:47 AM, Lorien Dunn <loriendunn@...> wrote:
> A comment here as you've turned them off there: > > I read about the single sample SC in computer music journal just yesterday > and thought to myself what a wonderful thing the Low Level Virtual Machine > project (http://llvm.org) with it's optimisers and JIT compilers could be > for both sclang and scsynth. No need for C code these days :) I mentioned LLVM in the keynote. > > > cheers, > Lorien -- --- james mccartney _______________________________________________ sc-users mailing list info (subscription, etc.): http://www.beast.bham.ac.uk/research/sc_mailing_lists.shtml archive: http://www.listarc.bham.ac.uk/marchives/sc-users/ search: http://www.listarc.bham.ac.uk/lists/sc-users/search/ |
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Re: symposium thought
by loriend
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James McCartney wrote:
> > I mentioned LLVM in the keynote. > > I wish I could have been there. Something else I've pondered but rejected as being in the too hard basket is JIT compiling synth graphs to GPU and/or multicore CPU, I got the beginnings of it going with RapidMind (http://www.rapidmind.net/) and had a (host side ruby scripted) interpolating oscillator running on an nvidia card and outputting via jack before realising just how much coding I'd set myself up to be doing instead of music making. Thanks very much for opening the SC code James, I'd been rejecting supercollider for years and would be deep inside implementing a similar language if it had remained proprietary. Lorien _______________________________________________ sc-users mailing list info (subscription, etc.): http://www.beast.bham.ac.uk/research/sc_mailing_lists.shtml archive: http://www.listarc.bham.ac.uk/marchives/sc-users/ search: http://www.listarc.bham.ac.uk/lists/sc-users/search/ |
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Re: symposium thought
by Anton Hörnquist-2
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Hi,
Which CMJ issue has an article on single sample SC? Thanks /Anton On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 3:47 PM, Lorien Dunn <loriendunn@...> wrote: > I read about the single sample SC in computer music journal just yesterday > [...] _______________________________________________ sc-users mailing list info (subscription, etc.): http://www.beast.bham.ac.uk/research/sc_mailing_lists.shtml archive: http://www.listarc.bham.ac.uk/marchives/sc-users/ search: http://www.listarc.bham.ac.uk/lists/sc-users/search/ |
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Re: symposium thought
by loriend
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McCartney, James.
Computer Music Journal, Volume 26, Number 4, Winter 2002, pp. 61-68 Anton Hörnquist wrote: > Hi, > > Which CMJ issue has an article on single sample SC? Thanks > > /Anton > > On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 3:47 PM, Lorien Dunn <loriendunn@...> wrote: > >> I read about the single sample SC in computer music journal just yesterday >> [...] >> > > _______________________________________________ > sc-users mailing list > > info (subscription, etc.): http://www.beast.bham.ac.uk/research/sc_mailing_lists.shtml > archive: http://www.listarc.bham.ac.uk/marchives/sc-users/ > search: http://www.listarc.bham.ac.uk/lists/sc-users/search/ > > _______________________________________________ sc-users mailing list info (subscription, etc.): http://www.beast.bham.ac.uk/research/sc_mailing_lists.shtml archive: http://www.listarc.bham.ac.uk/marchives/sc-users/ search: http://www.listarc.bham.ac.uk/lists/sc-users/search/ |
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Re: symposium thought
by miguel.negrao
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James McCartney escreveu:
> On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 6:47 AM, Lorien Dunn <loriendunn@...> wrote: >> A comment here as you've turned them off there: >> >> I read about the single sample SC in computer music journal just yesterday >> and thought to myself what a wonderful thing the Low Level Virtual Machine >> project (http://llvm.org) with it's optimisers and JIT compilers could be >> for both sclang and scsynth. No need for C code these days :) > > I mentioned LLVM in the keynote. > >> >> cheers, >> Lorien > -- Miguel Negrão // ZLB http://www.friendlyvirus.org/artists/zlb/ _______________________________________________ sc-users mailing list info (subscription, etc.): http://www.beast.bham.ac.uk/research/sc_mailing_lists.shtml archive: http://www.listarc.bham.ac.uk/marchives/sc-users/ search: http://www.listarc.bham.ac.uk/lists/sc-users/search/ |
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Re: symposium thought
by rags música
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I wish I could have gone. Next year in Berlin!
R 2009/4/14 Sam Pluta <spluta@...> hey all, |
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