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synce and Motorola moto Q11

by _mx_ :: Rate this Message:

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Hello there,

I could not connect with a Moto Q11 (windows mobile 6.1) in my debian lenny, so I want to know if someone could? At first, I tried get help on since-users but know I think that it is a -devel problem...

After some tests I think that the device is not supported.

If it is really not supported, is there any work in that?

If someone want to see, my tests and log messages are detailed in this history (It's not cleared but there is a  lsusb.out attached there too)  :

http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_name=3cd298d70908130508s2928e02xacc9535bd6c67412%40mail.gmail.com&forum_name=synce-users


Thanks for any help,
Max

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Re: synce and Motorola moto Q11

by Guido Diepen :: Rate this Message:

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Hi Max,

it sure is NOT a problem of devices not being supported. The important thing
is that it is a windows mobile device.

However, certain vendors have set certain defaults different. An example of
this being the IP addresses used by the device/computer when using
ActiveSync.

>From your earlier messages it is not clear to me whether you are still using
odccm or already are using the newer synce-hal.

The main advantage with using synce-hal is that it deals with both legacy
connections (PPP over serial over usb, via ipaq driver) and new style
connections ( ethernet over usb, via rndis_host driver). Another advantage is
that synce-hal uses DHCP to acquire an IP address from the device when it is
connected, while in odccm you had to manually provide an IP address yourself.

Therefore, if you are still using odccm, please install synce-hal. I don't
know about lenny, but I think that synce-hal is in debian unstable.

>From your log messages I saw that you are using network manager, could you
please disable that while testing? It has been known to interfere with
setting up the device and causing the conneciton to not work.

Another thing you can is the following. If you have synce-hal (will not work
this way directly if you are using odccm), you could set your device to NOT
use rndis, by removing the checkbox in the screen
Start -> Settings -> Connections -> USB to PC
that states something like: Use enhanced network connection, or use fast
transfer connection.

After that, connect the device again and see if the connection does work now.

Kind regards,

Guido Diepen

On Sunday 16 August 2009 16:11:02 _mx_ wrote:

> Hello there,
>
> I could not connect with a Moto Q11 (windows mobile 6.1) in my debian
> lenny, so I want to know if someone could? At first, I tried get help on
> since-users but know I think that it is a -devel problem...
>
> After some tests I think that the device is not supported.
>
> If it is really not supported, is there any work in that?
>
> If someone want to see, my tests and log messages are detailed in this
> history (It's not cleared but there is a
> lsusb.out<http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/attachment.php?list_name=synce
>-users&message_id=3cd298d70908081602x753c5708x59806a3ebcfc2b3f%40mail.gmail.
>com&counter=2>attached there too)  :
>
> http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_name=3cd298d70908130508
>s2928e02xacc9535bd6c67412%40mail.gmail.com&forum_name=synce-users
>
>
> Thanks for any help,
> Max



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Re: synce and Motorola moto Q11

by _mx_ :: Rate this Message:

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On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 11:21 AM, Guido Diepen <guido@...> wrote:
Hi Max,

it sure is NOT a problem of devices not being supported. The important thing
is that it is a windows mobile device.

OK, I understand.

I said that because i read this in the file "synce-hal-0.14/README":
"(...) For usb connections, most devices should be autodetected, if
yours is not please inform the synce project and we'll fix it ! (...)"
 

However, certain vendors have set certain defaults different. An example of
this being the IP addresses used by the device/computer when using
ActiveSync.

Probably it's one of my problems. One of things that I read in my searches is that to connect to a  "Moto Q" with odccm is need to specify the ip, and how my device is a "Moto Q11" ...
 


>From your earlier messages it is not clear to me whether you are still using
odccm or already are using the newer synce-hal.

Well, I hope I'm using the synce-hal, 'cause the ifconfig show me a new interface (rndis0) when I plug the device. When I was using the odccm the interface only were showed when I ran the program (odccm).

----------
# ifconfig
rndis0    Link encap:Ethernet  Endereço de HW 80:f4:00:00:9e:b4
          UP BROADCASTRUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:3954  Métrica:1
          RX packets:7 errors:6 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
          TX packets:1 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
          colisões:0 txqueuelen:1000
          RX bytes:396 (396.0 B)  TX bytes:134 (134.0 B)
---------

But how you can see, the interface have errors.

 


The main advantage with using synce-hal is that it deals with both legacy
connections (PPP over serial over usb, via ipaq driver) and new style
connections ( ethernet over usb, via rndis_host driver). Another advantage is
that synce-hal uses DHCP to acquire an IP address from the device when it is
connected, while in odccm you had to manually provide an IP address yourself.

Therefore, if you are still using odccm, please install synce-hal. I don't
know about lenny, but I think that synce-hal is in debian unstable.

I compiled the version: synce-hal-0.14.
Before this I had compiled these : librapi2,  libsynce,  odccm,  usb-rndis-lite, and nothing was uninstalled.

 


>From your log messages I saw that you are using network manager, could you
please disable that while testing? It has been known to interfere with
setting up the device and causing the conneciton to not work.

I can not understand what you are calling by "network manager", but if it is the firewall (iptables), I already cleared all rules.

--------
# iptables -nL
Chain INPUT (policy ACCEPT)
target     prot opt source               destination

Chain FORWARD (policy ACCEPT)
target     prot opt source               destination

Chain OUTPUT (policy ACCEPT)
target     prot opt source               destination
-----------------
 


Another thing you can is the following. If you have synce-hal (will not work
this way directly if you are using odccm), you could set your device to NOT
use rndis, by removing the checkbox in the screen
Start -> Settings -> Connections -> USB to PC
that states something like: Use enhanced network connection, or use fast
transfer connection.

After that, connect the device again and see if the connection does work now.

I Tried (disabled the "Use enhanced network connection"), but I think that is still not working. How can I know if is it working?
To know if it is working I trying this:
--------------
[device is unplugged]
# pls
** Message: Hal reports no devices connected
** Message: Odccm is not running, ignoring
pls: Could not find configuration at path '(Default)'

[device is plugged]
# pls
** Message: Device /org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/usb_device_45e_ce_ffffffff_ff0b_ffff_9f06_3fea07009ffe_if0_serial_usb_0 not fully set in Hal, skipping
** Message: Odccm is not running, ignoring
pls: Could not find configuration at path '(Default)'
------------------------

maybe it is useful

# lsmod | grep usb
usbserial              26472  1 ipaq
usb_storage            77024  0
scsi_mod              129324  4 sd_mod,usb_storage,sbp2,libata
usbcore               118224  7 ipaq,usbserial,usb_storage,cdc_acm,ehci_hcd,uhci_hcd



 

Kind regards,

Guido Diepen

On Sunday 16 August 2009 16:11:02 _mx_ wrote:
> Hello there,
>
> I could not connect with a Moto Q11 (windows mobile 6.1) in my debian
> lenny, so I want to know if someone could? At first, I tried get help on
> since-users but know I think that it is a -devel problem...
>
> After some tests I think that the device is not supported.
>
> If it is really not supported, is there any work in that?
>
> If someone want to see, my tests and log messages are detailed in this
> history (It's not cleared but there is a
> lsusb.out<http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/attachment.php?list_name=synce
>-users&message_id=3cd298d70908081602x753c5708x59806a3ebcfc2b3f%40mail.gmail.
>com&counter=2>attached there too)  :
>
> http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_name=3cd298d70908130508
>s2928e02xacc9535bd6c67412%40mail.gmail.com&forum_name=synce-users
>
>
> Thanks for any help,
> Max



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