system scoped dependencies are attempted to be downloaded

[EJ Ciramella-3]

Hello again all -

I've recently had my hand forced and we _need_ to use a system scoped dependency.

The file is sitting right in front of my eyes, yet maven tries still to download the jar from the repository.

I'm strictly using maven, but it seems like this patch/bug may be related to core bits of maven 2:

http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MANT-61?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels%3Aworklog-tabpanel

What am I missing?

[EJ Ciramella-3]

Actually, this problem seems more related to:

http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG-2017

It says it's closed for version 2.0.9 (the version of maven we're using here), but I'm still seeing this issue.

-----Original Message-----
From: EJ Ciramella [mailto:eciramella@...]
Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 10:20 PM
To: users@...
Subject: system scoped dependencies are attempted to be downloaded

Hello again all -

I've recently had my hand forced and we _need_ to use a system scoped dependency.

The file is sitting right in front of my eyes, yet maven tries still to download the jar from the repository.

I'm strictly using maven, but it seems like this patch/bug may be related to core bits of maven 2:

http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MANT-61?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels%3Aworklog-tabpanel

What am I missing?

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[EJ Ciramella-3]

I've tried this with mvn 2.0.9, 2.0.10 and 2.2.1 and all three are exhibiting this problem - is this an issue with a plugin?

-----Original Message-----
From: EJ Ciramella [mailto:eciramella@...]
Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 10:32 PM
To: users@...
Subject: RE: system scoped dependencies are attempted to be downloaded

Actually, this problem seems more related to:

http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG-2017

It says it's closed for version 2.0.9 (the version of maven we're using here), but I'm still seeing this issue.

-----Original Message-----
From: EJ Ciramella [mailto:eciramella@...]
Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 10:20 PM
To: users@...
Subject: system scoped dependencies are attempted to be downloaded

Hello again all -

I've recently had my hand forced and we _need_ to use a system scoped dependency.

The file is sitting right in front of my eyes, yet maven tries still to download the jar from the repository.

I'm strictly using maven, but it seems like this patch/bug may be related to core bits of maven 2:

http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MANT-61?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels%3Aworklog-tabpanel

What am I missing?

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[EJ Ciramella-3]

We're really stuck - any suggestions at all would be greatly appreciated.

-----Original Message-----
From: EJ Ciramella [mailto:eciramella@...]
Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 10:35 PM
To: users@...
Subject: RE: system scoped dependencies are attempted to be downloaded

I've tried this with mvn 2.0.9, 2.0.10 and 2.2.1 and all three are exhibiting this problem - is this an issue with a plugin?

-----Original Message-----
From: EJ Ciramella [mailto:eciramella@...]
Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 10:32 PM
To: users@...
Subject: RE: system scoped dependencies are attempted to be downloaded

Actually, this problem seems more related to:

http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG-2017

It says it's closed for version 2.0.9 (the version of maven we're using here), but I'm still seeing this issue.

-----Original Message-----
From: EJ Ciramella [mailto:eciramella@...]
Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 10:20 PM
To: users@...
Subject: system scoped dependencies are attempted to be downloaded

Hello again all -

I've recently had my hand forced and we _need_ to use a system scoped dependency.

The file is sitting right in front of my eyes, yet maven tries still to download the jar from the repository.

I'm strictly using maven, but it seems like this patch/bug may be related to core bits of maven 2:

http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MANT-61?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels%3Aworklog-tabpanel

What am I missing?

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[Wendy Smoak-3]

On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 11:03 AM, EJ Ciramella <eciramella@...> wrote:
> We're really stuck - any suggestions at all would be greatly appreciated.

It's not clear from the thread exactly what problem you're having.
Can you provide a simple example that demonstrates it?  Attach it to
the relevant JIRA issue if there is one, or open a new one if not.

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[EJ Ciramella-3]

It's simple - if you have a dependency with a system scope, maven 2.0.9 - 2.2.1 tries looking up that dependency in any repos you may have mapped.

Shouldn't it just skip that part?

I found a few bugs that seem to be closed (see my earlier mails) that document this problem exactly.


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[Wayne Fay]

> It's simple - if you have a dependency with a system scope, maven 2.0.9 - 2.2.1 tries looking up that dependency in any repos you may have mapped.
>
> Shouldn't it just skip that part?

What happens when you change the version range to a fixed value eg
>2.1.3< or >[2.1.3]<? Or if you remove the version stanza entirely
since it does not apply to system scoped artifacts?

Wayne

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[EJ Ciramella-3]

We're not using a version range.  The numbers I'm speaking of below is the range of maven 2 versions I tried and had this problem.

-----Original Message-----
From: Wayne Fay [mailto:waynefay@...]
Sent: Friday, November 06, 2009 3:29 PM
To: Maven Users List
Subject: Re: system scoped dependencies are attempted to be downloaded

> It's simple - if you have a dependency with a system scope, maven 2.0.9 - 2.2.1 tries looking up that dependency in any repos you may have mapped.
>
> Shouldn't it just skip that part?

What happens when you change the version range to a fixed value eg
>2.1.3< or >[2.1.3]<? Or if you remove the version stanza entirely
since it does not apply to system scoped artifacts?

Wayne

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[Anders Hammar]

And you have tried the very simplest project, containing just the
dependencies section with just this dependency? And no parent pom which
could hide something not obvious. For example, use the quickstart archetype.
Also, have you tried it in a different environment (computer)?
If that still reproduces the issue, I suggest you create a jira and attach
that project.

/Anders

On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 21:33, EJ Ciramella <eciramella@...> wrote:

> We're not using a version range.  The numbers I'm speaking of below is the
> range of maven 2 versions I tried and had this problem.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Wayne Fay [mailto:waynefay@...]
> Sent: Friday, November 06, 2009 3:29 PM
> To: Maven Users List
> Subject: Re: system scoped dependencies are attempted to be downloaded
>
> > It's simple - if you have a dependency with a system scope, maven 2.0.9 -
> 2.2.1 tries looking up that dependency in any repos you may have mapped.
> >
> > Shouldn't it just skip that part?
>
> What happens when you change the version range to a fixed value eg
> >2.1.3< or >[2.1.3]<? Or if you remove the version stanza entirely
> since it does not apply to system scoped artifacts?
>
> Wayne
>
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[EJ Ciramella-3]

Hmm - here's a question - if the jar I'm looking for exists inside a zip file that needs to be downloaded, unpacked and then and only then will systemPath actually point at a jar - will that fail?

When does dependency resolution happen - at the validate stage?  If so, the zip won't be downloaded and unpacked by then resulting in a systemPath that doesn't exist.


-----Original Message-----
From: anders.g.hammar@... [mailto:anders.g.hammar@...] On Behalf Of Anders Hammar
Sent: Friday, November 06, 2009 3:41 PM
To: Maven Users List
Subject: Re: system scoped dependencies are attempted to be downloaded

And you have tried the very simplest project, containing just the
dependencies section with just this dependency? And no parent pom which
could hide something not obvious. For example, use the quickstart archetype.
Also, have you tried it in a different environment (computer)?
If that still reproduces the issue, I suggest you create a jira and attach
that project.

/Anders

On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 21:33, EJ Ciramella <eciramella@...> wrote:

> We're not using a version range.  The numbers I'm speaking of below is the
> range of maven 2 versions I tried and had this problem.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Wayne Fay [mailto:waynefay@...]
> Sent: Friday, November 06, 2009 3:29 PM
> To: Maven Users List
> Subject: Re: system scoped dependencies are attempted to be downloaded
>
> > It's simple - if you have a dependency with a system scope, maven 2.0.9 -
> 2.2.1 tries looking up that dependency in any repos you may have mapped.
> >
> > Shouldn't it just skip that part?
>
> What happens when you change the version range to a fixed value eg
> >2.1.3< or >[2.1.3]<? Or if you remove the version stanza entirely
> since it does not apply to system scoped artifacts?
>
> Wayne
>
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[Anders Hammar]

Sorry, I don't know.
I take it your setup is a little bit more complicated than your initial
posts indicated?

/Anders

On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 22:12, EJ Ciramella <eciramella@...> wrote:

> Hmm - here's a question - if the jar I'm looking for exists inside a zip
> file that needs to be downloaded, unpacked and then and only then will
> systemPath actually point at a jar - will that fail?
>
> When does dependency resolution happen - at the validate stage?  If so, the
> zip won't be downloaded and unpacked by then resulting in a systemPath that
> doesn't exist.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: anders.g.hammar@... [mailto:anders.g.hammar@...] On
> Behalf Of Anders Hammar
> Sent: Friday, November 06, 2009 3:41 PM
> To: Maven Users List
> Subject: Re: system scoped dependencies are attempted to be downloaded
>
> And you have tried the very simplest project, containing just the
> dependencies section with just this dependency? And no parent pom which
> could hide something not obvious. For example, use the quickstart
> archetype.
> Also, have you tried it in a different environment (computer)?
> If that still reproduces the issue, I suggest you create a jira and attach
> that project.
>
> /Anders
>
> On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 21:33, EJ Ciramella <eciramella@...>
> wrote:
>
> > We're not using a version range.  The numbers I'm speaking of below is
> the
> > range of maven 2 versions I tried and had this problem.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Wayne Fay [mailto:waynefay@...]
> > Sent: Friday, November 06, 2009 3:29 PM
> > To: Maven Users List
> > Subject: Re: system scoped dependencies are attempted to be downloaded
> >
> > > It's simple - if you have a dependency with a system scope, maven 2.0.9
> -
> > 2.2.1 tries looking up that dependency in any repos you may have mapped.
> > >
> > > Shouldn't it just skip that part?
> >
> > What happens when you change the version range to a fixed value eg
> > >2.1.3< or >[2.1.3]<? Or if you remove the version stanza entirely
> > since it does not apply to system scoped artifacts?
> >
> > Wayne
> >
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[EJ Ciramella-3]

Yeah, we have a pretty out-of-the-ordinary build process using jboss/atg/etc.

Try this - zip up any jar and try to both unpack that AND put that jar as a dependency with a system scope.

This won't work.  It will try to resolve the dependency and fail so it never unpacks the zip.

-----Original Message-----
From: anders.g.hammar@... [mailto:anders.g.hammar@...] On Behalf Of Anders Hammar
Sent: Friday, November 06, 2009 4:20 PM
To: Maven Users List
Subject: Re: system scoped dependencies are attempted to be downloaded

Sorry, I don't know.
I take it your setup is a little bit more complicated than your initial
posts indicated?

/Anders

On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 22:12, EJ Ciramella <eciramella@...> wrote:

> Hmm - here's a question - if the jar I'm looking for exists inside a zip
> file that needs to be downloaded, unpacked and then and only then will
> systemPath actually point at a jar - will that fail?
>
> When does dependency resolution happen - at the validate stage?  If so, the
> zip won't be downloaded and unpacked by then resulting in a systemPath that
> doesn't exist.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: anders.g.hammar@... [mailto:anders.g.hammar@...] On
> Behalf Of Anders Hammar
> Sent: Friday, November 06, 2009 3:41 PM
> To: Maven Users List
> Subject: Re: system scoped dependencies are attempted to be downloaded
>
> And you have tried the very simplest project, containing just the
> dependencies section with just this dependency? And no parent pom which
> could hide something not obvious. For example, use the quickstart
> archetype.
> Also, have you tried it in a different environment (computer)?
> If that still reproduces the issue, I suggest you create a jira and attach
> that project.
>
> /Anders
>
> On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 21:33, EJ Ciramella <eciramella@...>
> wrote:
>
> > We're not using a version range.  The numbers I'm speaking of below is
> the
> > range of maven 2 versions I tried and had this problem.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Wayne Fay [mailto:waynefay@...]
> > Sent: Friday, November 06, 2009 3:29 PM
> > To: Maven Users List
> > Subject: Re: system scoped dependencies are attempted to be downloaded
> >
> > > It's simple - if you have a dependency with a system scope, maven 2.0.9
> -
> > 2.2.1 tries looking up that dependency in any repos you may have mapped.
> > >
> > > Shouldn't it just skip that part?
> >
> > What happens when you change the version range to a fixed value eg
> > >2.1.3< or >[2.1.3]<? Or if you remove the version stanza entirely
> > since it does not apply to system scoped artifacts?
> >
> > Wayne
> >
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[Anders Hammar]

Ok. In the future, it would be great if you include this kind of info when
you ask about a problem. You need to provide all info for us to be able to
help.

/Anders

On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 23:47, EJ Ciramella <eciramella@...> wrote:

> Yeah, we have a pretty out-of-the-ordinary build process using
> jboss/atg/etc.
>
> Try this - zip up any jar and try to both unpack that AND put that jar as a
> dependency with a system scope.
>
> This won't work.  It will try to resolve the dependency and fail so it
> never unpacks the zip.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: anders.g.hammar@... [mailto:anders.g.hammar@...] On
> Behalf Of Anders Hammar
> Sent: Friday, November 06, 2009 4:20 PM
> To: Maven Users List
> Subject: Re: system scoped dependencies are attempted to be downloaded
>
> Sorry, I don't know.
> I take it your setup is a little bit more complicated than your initial
> posts indicated?
>
> /Anders
>
> On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 22:12, EJ Ciramella <eciramella@...>
> wrote:
>
> > Hmm - here's a question - if the jar I'm looking for exists inside a zip
> > file that needs to be downloaded, unpacked and then and only then will
> > systemPath actually point at a jar - will that fail?
> >
> > When does dependency resolution happen - at the validate stage?  If so,
> the
> > zip won't be downloaded and unpacked by then resulting in a systemPath
> that
> > doesn't exist.
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: anders.g.hammar@... [mailto:anders.g.hammar@...] On
> > Behalf Of Anders Hammar
> > Sent: Friday, November 06, 2009 3:41 PM
> > To: Maven Users List
> > Subject: Re: system scoped dependencies are attempted to be downloaded
> >
> > And you have tried the very simplest project, containing just the
> > dependencies section with just this dependency? And no parent pom which
> > could hide something not obvious. For example, use the quickstart
> > archetype.
> > Also, have you tried it in a different environment (computer)?
> > If that still reproduces the issue, I suggest you create a jira and
> attach
> > that project.
> >
> > /Anders
> >
> > On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 21:33, EJ Ciramella <eciramella@...>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > We're not using a version range.  The numbers I'm speaking of below is
> > the
> > > range of maven 2 versions I tried and had this problem.
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Wayne Fay [mailto:waynefay@...]
> > > Sent: Friday, November 06, 2009 3:29 PM
> > > To: Maven Users List
> > > Subject: Re: system scoped dependencies are attempted to be downloaded
> > >
> > > > It's simple - if you have a dependency with a system scope, maven
> 2.0.9
> > -
> > > 2.2.1 tries looking up that dependency in any repos you may have
> mapped.
> > > >
> > > > Shouldn't it just skip that part?
> > >
> > > What happens when you change the version range to a fixed value eg
> > > >2.1.3< or >[2.1.3]<? Or if you remove the version stanza entirely
> > > since it does not apply to system scoped artifacts?
> > >
> > > Wayne
> > >
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[EJ Ciramella-3]

Sorry - and thank you!

Any suggestions or is this (confirmed as a) a bug?

-----Original Message-----
From: anders.g.hammar@... [mailto:anders.g.hammar@...] On Behalf Of Anders Hammar
Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2009 2:07 AM
To: Maven Users List
Subject: Re: system scoped dependencies are attempted to be downloaded

Ok. In the future, it would be great if you include this kind of info when
you ask about a problem. You need to provide all info for us to be able to
help.

/Anders

On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 23:47, EJ Ciramella <eciramella@...> wrote:

> Yeah, we have a pretty out-of-the-ordinary build process using
> jboss/atg/etc.
>
> Try this - zip up any jar and try to both unpack that AND put that jar as a
> dependency with a system scope.
>
> This won't work.  It will try to resolve the dependency and fail so it
> never unpacks the zip.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: anders.g.hammar@... [mailto:anders.g.hammar@...] On
> Behalf Of Anders Hammar
> Sent: Friday, November 06, 2009 4:20 PM
> To: Maven Users List
> Subject: Re: system scoped dependencies are attempted to be downloaded
>
> Sorry, I don't know.
> I take it your setup is a little bit more complicated than your initial
> posts indicated?
>
> /Anders
>
> On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 22:12, EJ Ciramella <eciramella@...>
> wrote:
>
> > Hmm - here's a question - if the jar I'm looking for exists inside a zip
> > file that needs to be downloaded, unpacked and then and only then will
> > systemPath actually point at a jar - will that fail?
> >
> > When does dependency resolution happen - at the validate stage?  If so,
> the
> > zip won't be downloaded and unpacked by then resulting in a systemPath
> that
> > doesn't exist.
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: anders.g.hammar@... [mailto:anders.g.hammar@...] On
> > Behalf Of Anders Hammar
> > Sent: Friday, November 06, 2009 3:41 PM
> > To: Maven Users List
> > Subject: Re: system scoped dependencies are attempted to be downloaded
> >
> > And you have tried the very simplest project, containing just the
> > dependencies section with just this dependency? And no parent pom which
> > could hide something not obvious. For example, use the quickstart
> > archetype.
> > Also, have you tried it in a different environment (computer)?
> > If that still reproduces the issue, I suggest you create a jira and
> attach
> > that project.
> >
> > /Anders
> >
> > On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 21:33, EJ Ciramella <eciramella@...>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > We're not using a version range.  The numbers I'm speaking of below is
> > the
> > > range of maven 2 versions I tried and had this problem.
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Wayne Fay [mailto:waynefay@...]
> > > Sent: Friday, November 06, 2009 3:29 PM
> > > To: Maven Users List
> > > Subject: Re: system scoped dependencies are attempted to be downloaded
> > >
> > > > It's simple - if you have a dependency with a system scope, maven
> 2.0.9
> > -
> > > 2.2.1 tries looking up that dependency in any repos you may have
> mapped.
> > > >
> > > > Shouldn't it just skip that part?
> > >
> > > What happens when you change the version range to a fixed value eg
> > > >2.1.3< or >[2.1.3]<? Or if you remove the version stanza entirely
> > > since it does not apply to system scoped artifacts?
> > >
> > > Wayne
> > >
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[Anders Hammar]

Don't think it's a bug, it's you using it the wrong way.
As I understand you, you have a dependency to some archive which you unpack.
In the same project you have a system scope dependency which points at some
jar that gets unpacked from the dependency above. Don't think that would
work and I frankly don't understand what you're doing. That is not the Maven
way. You should add the jar (artifact) extracted from the archive to you
(corporate) repository instead.

/Anders

On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 18:07, EJ Ciramella <eciramella@...> wrote:

> Sorry - and thank you!
>
> Any suggestions or is this (confirmed as a) a bug?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: anders.g.hammar@... [mailto:anders.g.hammar@...] On
> Behalf Of Anders Hammar
> Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2009 2:07 AM
> To: Maven Users List
> Subject: Re: system scoped dependencies are attempted to be downloaded
>
> Ok. In the future, it would be great if you include this kind of info when
> you ask about a problem. You need to provide all info for us to be able to
> help.
>
> /Anders
>
> On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 23:47, EJ Ciramella <eciramella@...>
> wrote:
>
> > Yeah, we have a pretty out-of-the-ordinary build process using
> > jboss/atg/etc.
> >
> > Try this - zip up any jar and try to both unpack that AND put that jar as
> a
> > dependency with a system scope.
> >
> > This won't work.  It will try to resolve the dependency and fail so it
> > never unpacks the zip.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: anders.g.hammar@... [mailto:anders.g.hammar@...] On
> > Behalf Of Anders Hammar
> > Sent: Friday, November 06, 2009 4:20 PM
> > To: Maven Users List
> > Subject: Re: system scoped dependencies are attempted to be downloaded
> >
> > Sorry, I don't know.
> > I take it your setup is a little bit more complicated than your initial
> > posts indicated?
> >
> > /Anders
> >
> > On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 22:12, EJ Ciramella <eciramella@...>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hmm - here's a question - if the jar I'm looking for exists inside a
> zip
> > > file that needs to be downloaded, unpacked and then and only then will
> > > systemPath actually point at a jar - will that fail?
> > >
> > > When does dependency resolution happen - at the validate stage?  If so,
> > the
> > > zip won't be downloaded and unpacked by then resulting in a systemPath
> > that
> > > doesn't exist.
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: anders.g.hammar@... [mailto:anders.g.hammar@...] On
> > > Behalf Of Anders Hammar
> > > Sent: Friday, November 06, 2009 3:41 PM
> > > To: Maven Users List
> > > Subject: Re: system scoped dependencies are attempted to be downloaded
> > >
> > > And you have tried the very simplest project, containing just the
> > > dependencies section with just this dependency? And no parent pom which
> > > could hide something not obvious. For example, use the quickstart
> > > archetype.
> > > Also, have you tried it in a different environment (computer)?
> > > If that still reproduces the issue, I suggest you create a jira and
> > attach
> > > that project.
> > >
> > > /Anders
> > >
> > > On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 21:33, EJ Ciramella <eciramella@...>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > We're not using a version range.  The numbers I'm speaking of below
> is
> > > the
> > > > range of maven 2 versions I tried and had this problem.
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Wayne Fay [mailto:waynefay@...]
> > > > Sent: Friday, November 06, 2009 3:29 PM
> > > > To: Maven Users List
> > > > Subject: Re: system scoped dependencies are attempted to be
> downloaded
> > > >
> > > > > It's simple - if you have a dependency with a system scope, maven
> > 2.0.9
> > > -
> > > > 2.2.1 tries looking up that dependency in any repos you may have
> > mapped.
> > > > >
> > > > > Shouldn't it just skip that part?
> > > >
> > > > What happens when you change the version range to a fixed value eg
> > > > >2.1.3< or >[2.1.3]<? Or if you remove the version stanza entirely
> > > > since it does not apply to system scoped artifacts?
> > > >
> > > > Wayne
> > > >
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[EJ Ciramella-3]

Well, that's interesting - here's the thing - if you use opensource, community edition version of jboss, then you can depend on the jboss repository.

If, however, you depend on the commercial version, patches (to both files and jars) are delivered in a different fashion (from what I can tell).

Also, all the services that are available as part of the default server installation example are used in about 20 different projects here.  I'd prefer creating a single artifact that contains both duplicated/shared component configuration AND binaries versus multiple jar installation and a secondary artifact for the component configuraiton.

Thank you for the feedback though, the real answer to this question seems to be that dependencies are verified during the validate phase and if you bind an "unpack-dependencies" to validate, it binds it to the end of the goal (which is too late for our purposes).



-----Original Message-----
From: anders.g.hammar@... [mailto:anders.g.hammar@...] On Behalf Of Anders Hammar
Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 12:58 PM
To: Maven Users List
Subject: Re: system scoped dependencies are attempted to be downloaded

Don't think it's a bug, it's you using it the wrong way.
As I understand you, you have a dependency to some archive which you unpack.
In the same project you have a system scope dependency which points at some
jar that gets unpacked from the dependency above. Don't think that would
work and I frankly don't understand what you're doing. That is not the Maven
way. You should add the jar (artifact) extracted from the archive to you
(corporate) repository instead.

/Anders

On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 18:07, EJ Ciramella <eciramella@...> wrote:

> Sorry - and thank you!
>
> Any suggestions or is this (confirmed as a) a bug?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: anders.g.hammar@... [mailto:anders.g.hammar@...] On
> Behalf Of Anders Hammar
> Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2009 2:07 AM
> To: Maven Users List
> Subject: Re: system scoped dependencies are attempted to be downloaded
>
> Ok. In the future, it would be great if you include this kind of info when
> you ask about a problem. You need to provide all info for us to be able to
> help.
>
> /Anders
>
> On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 23:47, EJ Ciramella <eciramella@...>
> wrote:
>
> > Yeah, we have a pretty out-of-the-ordinary build process using
> > jboss/atg/etc.
> >
> > Try this - zip up any jar and try to both unpack that AND put that jar as
> a
> > dependency with a system scope.
> >
> > This won't work.  It will try to resolve the dependency and fail so it
> > never unpacks the zip.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: anders.g.hammar@... [mailto:anders.g.hammar@...] On
> > Behalf Of Anders Hammar
> > Sent: Friday, November 06, 2009 4:20 PM
> > To: Maven Users List
> > Subject: Re: system scoped dependencies are attempted to be downloaded
> >
> > Sorry, I don't know.
> > I take it your setup is a little bit more complicated than your initial
> > posts indicated?
> >
> > /Anders
> >
> > On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 22:12, EJ Ciramella <eciramella@...>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hmm - here's a question - if the jar I'm looking for exists inside a
> zip
> > > file that needs to be downloaded, unpacked and then and only then will
> > > systemPath actually point at a jar - will that fail?
> > >
> > > When does dependency resolution happen - at the validate stage?  If so,
> > the
> > > zip won't be downloaded and unpacked by then resulting in a systemPath
> > that
> > > doesn't exist.
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: anders.g.hammar@... [mailto:anders.g.hammar@...] On
> > > Behalf Of Anders Hammar
> > > Sent: Friday, November 06, 2009 3:41 PM
> > > To: Maven Users List
> > > Subject: Re: system scoped dependencies are attempted to be downloaded
> > >
> > > And you have tried the very simplest project, containing just the
> > > dependencies section with just this dependency? And no parent pom which
> > > could hide something not obvious. For example, use the quickstart
> > > archetype.
> > > Also, have you tried it in a different environment (computer)?
> > > If that still reproduces the issue, I suggest you create a jira and
> > attach
> > > that project.
> > >
> > > /Anders
> > >
> > > On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 21:33, EJ Ciramella <eciramella@...>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > We're not using a version range.  The numbers I'm speaking of below
> is
> > > the
> > > > range of maven 2 versions I tried and had this problem.
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Wayne Fay [mailto:waynefay@...]
> > > > Sent: Friday, November 06, 2009 3:29 PM
> > > > To: Maven Users List
> > > > Subject: Re: system scoped dependencies are attempted to be
> downloaded
> > > >
> > > > > It's simple - if you have a dependency with a system scope, maven
> > 2.0.9
> > > -
> > > > 2.2.1 tries looking up that dependency in any repos you may have
> > mapped.
> > > > >
> > > > > Shouldn't it just skip that part?
> > > >
> > > > What happens when you change the version range to a fixed value eg
> > > > >2.1.3< or >[2.1.3]<? Or if you remove the version stanza entirely
> > > > since it does not apply to system scoped artifacts?
> > > >
> > > > Wayne
> > > >
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[Anders Hammar]

Ah, you're using JBoss EAP? I have quite some experience from that I we had
to build our own JBoss EAP repo for a customer. What a pain to get all the
dependencies right... Never the less, it's the way to go I think.
It might be of interest for you that there is a JBoss jira for creating an
EAP repo and the rumor has it there is actually some work going on.

/Anders

On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 19:53, EJ Ciramella <eciramella@...> wrote:

> Well, that's interesting - here's the thing - if you use opensource,
> community edition version of jboss, then you can depend on the jboss
> repository.
>
> If, however, you depend on the commercial version, patches (to both files
> and jars) are delivered in a different fashion (from what I can tell).
>
> Also, all the services that are available as part of the default server
> installation example are used in about 20 different projects here.  I'd
> prefer creating a single artifact that contains both duplicated/shared
> component configuration AND binaries versus multiple jar installation and a
> secondary artifact for the component configuraiton.
>
> Thank you for the feedback though, the real answer to this question seems
> to be that dependencies are verified during the validate phase and if you
> bind an "unpack-dependencies" to validate, it binds it to the end of the
> goal (which is too late for our purposes).
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: anders.g.hammar@... [mailto:anders.g.hammar@...] On
> Behalf Of Anders Hammar
> Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 12:58 PM
> To: Maven Users List
> Subject: Re: system scoped dependencies are attempted to be downloaded
>
> Don't think it's a bug, it's you using it the wrong way.
> As I understand you, you have a dependency to some archive which you
> unpack.
> In the same project you have a system scope dependency which points at some
> jar that gets unpacked from the dependency above. Don't think that would
> work and I frankly don't understand what you're doing. That is not the
> Maven
> way. You should add the jar (artifact) extracted from the archive to you
> (corporate) repository instead.
>
> /Anders
>
> On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 18:07, EJ Ciramella <eciramella@...>
> wrote:
>
> > Sorry - and thank you!
> >
> > Any suggestions or is this (confirmed as a) a bug?
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: anders.g.hammar@... [mailto:anders.g.hammar@...] On
> > Behalf Of Anders Hammar
> > Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2009 2:07 AM
> > To: Maven Users List
> > Subject: Re: system scoped dependencies are attempted to be downloaded
> >
> > Ok. In the future, it would be great if you include this kind of info
> when
> > you ask about a problem. You need to provide all info for us to be able
> to
> > help.
> >
> > /Anders
> >
> > On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 23:47, EJ Ciramella <eciramella@...>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Yeah, we have a pretty out-of-the-ordinary build process using
> > > jboss/atg/etc.
> > >
> > > Try this - zip up any jar and try to both unpack that AND put that jar
> as
> > a
> > > dependency with a system scope.
> > >
> > > This won't work.  It will try to resolve the dependency and fail so it
> > > never unpacks the zip.
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: anders.g.hammar@... [mailto:anders.g.hammar@...] On
> > > Behalf Of Anders Hammar
> > > Sent: Friday, November 06, 2009 4:20 PM
> > > To: Maven Users List
> > > Subject: Re: system scoped dependencies are attempted to be downloaded
> > >
> > > Sorry, I don't know.
> > > I take it your setup is a little bit more complicated than your initial
> > > posts indicated?
> > >
> > > /Anders
> > >
> > > On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 22:12, EJ Ciramella <eciramella@...>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hmm - here's a question - if the jar I'm looking for exists inside a
> > zip
> > > > file that needs to be downloaded, unpacked and then and only then
> will
> > > > systemPath actually point at a jar - will that fail?
> > > >
> > > > When does dependency resolution happen - at the validate stage?  If
> so,
> > > the
> > > > zip won't be downloaded and unpacked by then resulting in a
> systemPath
> > > that
> > > > doesn't exist.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: anders.g.hammar@... [mailto:anders.g.hammar@...]
> On
> > > > Behalf Of Anders Hammar
> > > > Sent: Friday, November 06, 2009 3:41 PM
> > > > To: Maven Users List
> > > > Subject: Re: system scoped dependencies are attempted to be
> downloaded
> > > >
> > > > And you have tried the very simplest project, containing just the
> > > > dependencies section with just this dependency? And no parent pom
> which
> > > > could hide something not obvious. For example, use the quickstart
> > > > archetype.
> > > > Also, have you tried it in a different environment (computer)?
> > > > If that still reproduces the issue, I suggest you create a jira and
> > > attach
> > > > that project.
> > > >
> > > > /Anders
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 21:33, EJ Ciramella <eciramella@...>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > We're not using a version range.  The numbers I'm speaking of below
> > is
> > > > the
> > > > > range of maven 2 versions I tried and had this problem.
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Wayne Fay [mailto:waynefay@...]
> > > > > Sent: Friday, November 06, 2009 3:29 PM
> > > > > To: Maven Users List
> > > > > Subject: Re: system scoped dependencies are attempted to be
> > downloaded
> > > > >
> > > > > > It's simple - if you have a dependency with a system scope, maven
> > > 2.0.9
> > > > -
> > > > > 2.2.1 tries looking up that dependency in any repos you may have
> > > mapped.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Shouldn't it just skip that part?
> > > > >
> > > > > What happens when you change the version range to a fixed value eg
> > > > > >2.1.3< or >[2.1.3]<? Or if you remove the version stanza entirely
> > > > > since it does not apply to system scoped artifacts?
> > > > >
> > > > > Wayne
> > > > >
> > > > >
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[EJ Ciramella-3]

Thanks again - yes - spot on.

We've also recycled some scripts (so ours call the "run" script) so we physically need more than just the dependencies.


-----Original Message-----
From: anders.g.hammar@... [mailto:anders.g.hammar@...] On Behalf Of Anders Hammar
Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 2:10 PM
To: Maven Users List
Subject: Re: system scoped dependencies are attempted to be downloaded

Ah, you're using JBoss EAP? I have quite some experience from that I we had
to build our own JBoss EAP repo for a customer. What a pain to get all the
dependencies right... Never the less, it's the way to go I think.
It might be of interest for you that there is a JBoss jira for creating an
EAP repo and the rumor has it there is actually some work going on.

/Anders

On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 19:53, EJ Ciramella <eciramella@...> wrote:

> Well, that's interesting - here's the thing - if you use opensource,
> community edition version of jboss, then you can depend on the jboss
> repository.
>
> If, however, you depend on the commercial version, patches (to both files
> and jars) are delivered in a different fashion (from what I can tell).
>
> Also, all the services that are available as part of the default server
> installation example are used in about 20 different projects here.  I'd
> prefer creating a single artifact that contains both duplicated/shared
> component configuration AND binaries versus multiple jar installation and a
> secondary artifact for the component configuraiton.
>
> Thank you for the feedback though, the real answer to this question seems
> to be that dependencies are verified during the validate phase and if you
> bind an "unpack-dependencies" to validate, it binds it to the end of the
> goal (which is too late for our purposes).
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: anders.g.hammar@... [mailto:anders.g.hammar@...] On
> Behalf Of Anders Hammar
> Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 12:58 PM
> To: Maven Users List
> Subject: Re: system scoped dependencies are attempted to be downloaded
>
> Don't think it's a bug, it's you using it the wrong way.
> As I understand you, you have a dependency to some archive which you
> unpack.
> In the same project you have a system scope dependency which points at some
> jar that gets unpacked from the dependency above. Don't think that would
> work and I frankly don't understand what you're doing. That is not the
> Maven
> way. You should add the jar (artifact) extracted from the archive to you
> (corporate) repository instead.
>
> /Anders
>
> On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 18:07, EJ Ciramella <eciramella@...>
> wrote:
>
> > Sorry - and thank you!
> >
> > Any suggestions or is this (confirmed as a) a bug?
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: anders.g.hammar@... [mailto:anders.g.hammar@...] On
> > Behalf Of Anders Hammar
> > Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2009 2:07 AM
> > To: Maven Users List
> > Subject: Re: system scoped dependencies are attempted to be downloaded
> >
> > Ok. In the future, it would be great if you include this kind of info
> when
> > you ask about a problem. You need to provide all info for us to be able
> to
> > help.
> >
> > /Anders
> >
> > On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 23:47, EJ Ciramella <eciramella@...>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Yeah, we have a pretty out-of-the-ordinary build process using
> > > jboss/atg/etc.
> > >
> > > Try this - zip up any jar and try to both unpack that AND put that jar
> as
> > a
> > > dependency with a system scope.
> > >
> > > This won't work.  It will try to resolve the dependency and fail so it
> > > never unpacks the zip.
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: anders.g.hammar@... [mailto:anders.g.hammar@...] On
> > > Behalf Of Anders Hammar
> > > Sent: Friday, November 06, 2009 4:20 PM
> > > To: Maven Users List
> > > Subject: Re: system scoped dependencies are attempted to be downloaded
> > >
> > > Sorry, I don't know.
> > > I take it your setup is a little bit more complicated than your initial
> > > posts indicated?
> > >
> > > /Anders
> > >
> > > On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 22:12, EJ Ciramella <eciramella@...>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hmm - here's a question - if the jar I'm looking for exists inside a
> > zip
> > > > file that needs to be downloaded, unpacked and then and only then
> will
> > > > systemPath actually point at a jar - will that fail?
> > > >
> > > > When does dependency resolution happen - at the validate stage?  If
> so,
> > > the
> > > > zip won't be downloaded and unpacked by then resulting in a
> systemPath
> > > that
> > > > doesn't exist.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: anders.g.hammar@... [mailto:anders.g.hammar@...]
> On
> > > > Behalf Of Anders Hammar
> > > > Sent: Friday, November 06, 2009 3:41 PM
> > > > To: Maven Users List
> > > > Subject: Re: system scoped dependencies are attempted to be
> downloaded
> > > >
> > > > And you have tried the very simplest project, containing just the
> > > > dependencies section with just this dependency? And no parent pom
> which
> > > > could hide something not obvious. For example, use the quickstart
> > > > archetype.
> > > > Also, have you tried it in a different environment (computer)?
> > > > If that still reproduces the issue, I suggest you create a jira and
> > > attach
> > > > that project.
> > > >
> > > > /Anders
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 21:33, EJ Ciramella <eciramella@...>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > We're not using a version range.  The numbers I'm speaking of below
> > is
> > > > the
> > > > > range of maven 2 versions I tried and had this problem.
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Wayne Fay [mailto:waynefay@...]
> > > > > Sent: Friday, November 06, 2009 3:29 PM
> > > > > To: Maven Users List
> > > > > Subject: Re: system scoped dependencies are attempted to be
> > downloaded
> > > > >
> > > > > > It's simple - if you have a dependency with a system scope, maven
> > > 2.0.9
> > > > -
> > > > > 2.2.1 tries looking up that dependency in any repos you may have
> > > mapped.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Shouldn't it just skip that part?
> > > > >
> > > > > What happens when you change the version range to a fixed value eg
> > > > > >2.1.3< or >[2.1.3]<? Or if you remove the version stanza entirely
> > > > > since it does not apply to system scoped artifacts?
> > > > >
> > > > > Wayne
> > > > >
> > > > >
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[Anders Hammar]

Vote on this:
https://jira.jboss.org/jira/browse/JBPAPP-1935

/Anders

On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 20:30, EJ Ciramella <eciramella@...> wrote:

> Thanks again - yes - spot on.
>
> We've also recycled some scripts (so ours call the "run" script) so we
> physically need more than just the dependencies.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: anders.g.hammar@... [mailto:anders.g.hammar@...] On
> Behalf Of Anders Hammar
> Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 2:10 PM
> To: Maven Users List
> Subject: Re: system scoped dependencies are attempted to be downloaded
>
> Ah, you're using JBoss EAP? I have quite some experience from that I we had
> to build our own JBoss EAP repo for a customer. What a pain to get all the
> dependencies right... Never the less, it's the way to go I think.
> It might be of interest for you that there is a JBoss jira for creating an
> EAP repo and the rumor has it there is actually some work going on.
>
> /Anders
>
> On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 19:53, EJ Ciramella <eciramella@...>
> wrote:
>
> > Well, that's interesting - here's the thing - if you use opensource,
> > community edition version of jboss, then you can depend on the jboss
> > repository.
> >
> > If, however, you depend on the commercial version, patches (to both files
> > and jars) are delivered in a different fashion (from what I can tell).
> >
> > Also, all the services that are available as part of the default server
> > installation example are used in about 20 different projects here.  I'd
> > prefer creating a single artifact that contains both duplicated/shared
> > component configuration AND binaries versus multiple jar installation and
> a
> > secondary artifact for the component configuraiton.
> >
> > Thank you for the feedback though, the real answer to this question seems
> > to be that dependencies are verified during the validate phase and if you
> > bind an "unpack-dependencies" to validate, it binds it to the end of the
> > goal (which is too late for our purposes).
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: anders.g.hammar@... [mailto:anders.g.hammar@...] On
> > Behalf Of Anders Hammar
> > Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 12:58 PM
> > To: Maven Users List
> > Subject: Re: system scoped dependencies are attempted to be downloaded
> >
> > Don't think it's a bug, it's you using it the wrong way.
> > As I understand you, you have a dependency to some archive which you
> > unpack.
> > In the same project you have a system scope dependency which points at
> some
> > jar that gets unpacked from the dependency above. Don't think that would
> > work and I frankly don't understand what you're doing. That is not the
> > Maven
> > way. You should add the jar (artifact) extracted from the archive to you
> > (corporate) repository instead.
> >
> > /Anders
> >
> > On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 18:07, EJ Ciramella <eciramella@...>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Sorry - and thank you!
> > >
> > > Any suggestions or is this (confirmed as a) a bug?
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: anders.g.hammar@... [mailto:anders.g.hammar@...] On
> > > Behalf Of Anders Hammar
> > > Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2009 2:07 AM
> > > To: Maven Users List
> > > Subject: Re: system scoped dependencies are attempted to be downloaded
> > >
> > > Ok. In the future, it would be great if you include this kind of info
> > when
> > > you ask about a problem. You need to provide all info for us to be able
> > to
> > > help.
> > >
> > > /Anders
> > >
> > > On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 23:47, EJ Ciramella <eciramella@...>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Yeah, we have a pretty out-of-the-ordinary build process using
> > > > jboss/atg/etc.
> > > >
> > > > Try this - zip up any jar and try to both unpack that AND put that
> jar
> > as
> > > a
> > > > dependency with a system scope.
> > > >
> > > > This won't work.  It will try to resolve the dependency and fail so
> it
> > > > never unpacks the zip.
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: anders.g.hammar@... [mailto:anders.g.hammar@...]
> On
> > > > Behalf Of Anders Hammar
> > > > Sent: Friday, November 06, 2009 4:20 PM
> > > > To: Maven Users List
> > > > Subject: Re: system scoped dependencies are attempted to be
> downloaded
> > > >
> > > > Sorry, I don't know.
> > > > I take it your setup is a little bit more complicated than your
> initial
> > > > posts indicated?
> > > >
> > > > /Anders
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 22:12, EJ Ciramella <eciramella@...>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hmm - here's a question - if the jar I'm looking for exists inside
> a
> > > zip
> > > > > file that needs to be downloaded, unpacked and then and only then
> > will
> > > > > systemPath actually point at a jar - will that fail?
> > > > >
> > > > > When does dependency resolution happen - at the validate stage?  If
> > so,
> > > > the
> > > > > zip won't be downloaded and unpacked by then resulting in a
> > systemPath
> > > > that
> > > > > doesn't exist.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: anders.g.hammar@... [mailto:anders.g.hammar@...]
> > On
> > > > > Behalf Of Anders Hammar
> > > > > Sent: Friday, November 06, 2009 3:41 PM
> > > > > To: Maven Users List
> > > > > Subject: Re: system scoped dependencies are attempted to be
> > downloaded
> > > > >
> > > > > And you have tried the very simplest project, containing just the
> > > > > dependencies section with just this dependency? And no parent pom
> > which
> > > > > could hide something not obvious. For example, use the quickstart
> > > > > archetype.
> > > > > Also, have you tried it in a different environment (computer)?
> > > > > If that still reproduces the issue, I suggest you create a jira and
> > > > attach
> > > > > that project.
> > > > >
> > > > > /Anders
> > > > >
> > > > > On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 21:33, EJ Ciramella <
> eciramella@...>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > We're not using a version range.  The numbers I'm speaking of
> below
> > > is
> > > > > the
> > > > > > range of maven 2 versions I tried and had this problem.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: Wayne Fay [mailto:waynefay@...]
> > > > > > Sent: Friday, November 06, 2009 3:29 PM
> > > > > > To: Maven Users List
> > > > > > Subject: Re: system scoped dependencies are attempted to be
> > > downloaded
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > It's simple - if you have a dependency with a system scope,
> maven
> > > > 2.0.9
> > > > > -
> > > > > > 2.2.1 tries looking up that dependency in any repos you may have
> > > > mapped.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Shouldn't it just skip that part?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > What happens when you change the version range to a fixed value
> eg
> > > > > > >2.1.3< or >[2.1.3]<? Or if you remove the version stanza
> entirely
> > > > > > since it does not apply to system scoped artifacts?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Wayne
> > > > > >
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