thoughts on conversion to autotools?

[Joshua Layne]

Wondering if anyone has any opposition to converting roadmap to use
autotools.  IIRC, paul had previously voiced the opinion that he had never
seen the point, but was not opposed (correct me if i'm wrong).  Any other
opinions?

My interest in converting to autotools is to enable more seamless
integration with distributions (i think) and dedicated development
environments (maemo, for example - personal experience)

Also, this is not a request - I am hoping to learn something here too.

In addition to changing the make/configure setup, this also may require
some minor rearrangement of the project directory structure (and therefore
documentation?)

thanks in advance for your thoughts.
josh


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[Paul Fox-3]

joshua wrote:
 > Wondering if anyone has any opposition to converting roadmap to use
 > autotools.  IIRC, paul had previously voiced the opinion that he had never
 > seen the point, but was not opposed (correct me if i'm wrong).  Any other
 > opinions?

i guess more accurately i would say "i'm opposed, because i've never seen
the point".

 > My interest in converting to autotools is to enable more seamless
 > integration with distributions (i think) and dedicated development
 > environments (maemo, for example - personal experience)

i find it hard to believe that a distribution could depend on all of
its sub-modules using autotools.  what's important is that there
be ways to configure the submodule (roadmap, in this case) so that
a suitable binary can be created for that distribution.  i have yet
to hear of a case where this isn't possible with the current makefiles.

can you give examples of what it is that can't currently be done?

paul
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[Joshua Layne]

On Fri, 20 Mar 2009 14:47:51 -0400, Paul Fox <pgf@...>
wrote:

> joshua wrote:
>  > Wondering if anyone has any opposition to converting roadmap to use
>  > autotools.  IIRC, paul had previously voiced the opinion that he had
> never
>  > seen the point, but was not opposed (correct me if i'm wrong).  Any
> other
>  > opinions?
>
> i guess more accurately i would say "i'm opposed, because i've never seen
> the point".

see, that's what I get for trying to put words in other's mouths :)
I am corrected.

>
>  > My interest in converting to autotools is to enable more seamless
>  > integration with distributions (i think) and dedicated development
>  > environments (maemo, for example - personal experience)
>
> i find it hard to believe that a distribution could depend on all of
> its sub-modules using autotools.  what's important is that there
> be ways to configure the submodule (roadmap, in this case) so that
> a suitable binary can be created for that distribution.  i have yet
> to hear of a case where this isn't possible with the current makefiles.
>
> can you give examples of what it is that can't currently be done?
>

My expertise (or lack thereof) may call into question the accuracy of this
statement, but the maemo build environment is to the best of my knowledge
and experience based on autotools, although it may be possible to bypass
that and use traditional make, I've not succeeded with that yet.  Also, if
this really is the only case, then I withdraw the question based solely on
'cart before the horse' syndrome.  I'll dig more into the maemo piece.

I do reserve the future right to ask the occasional stupid question
though...

thanks, josh
> paul
> =---------------------
>  paul fox, pgf@... (arlington, ma, where it's 46.6
> degrees)
>
>
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