tinybsd qemu small howto

[Marten Vijn]

a comprehensive overview how i use tinybsd
and maintain images

http://martenvijn.nl/trac/wiki/TinyBSD

feedback is welcome,

Marten

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[Sunry Chen]

On Nov 12, 2007 8:00 PM,  <freebsd-small-request@...> wrote:
> From: Marten Vijn <info@...>
> a comprehensive overview how i use tinybsd
> and maintain images
>
> http://martenvijn.nl/trac/wiki/TinyBSD
>
> feedback is welcome,
>
> Marten

While it's empty?
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[Marten Vijn]

On Tue, 2007-11-13 at 09:06 +0800, Sunry Chen wrote:

> On Nov 12, 2007 8:00 PM,  <freebsd-small-request@...> wrote:
> > From: Marten Vijn <info@...>
> > a comprehensive overview how i use tinybsd
> > and maintain images
> >
> > http://martenvijn.nl/trac/wiki/TinyBSD
> >
> > feedback is welcome,
> >
> > Marten
>
> While it's empty?

Apperently someone needed to wiki to chrash...
pitty..

I will fix it later.


Marten


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[Outback Dingo-2]

HAHAH sorry for the top post but I actually had a copy saved, so here it
is

installation ¶

install FreeBSD 7.0 ISO

Just the chapter installation from the FreeBSD handbook
fresh Build ¶

Since 7.0 in stable jet I suggest to build the lasted version. You can
skip this and can go to make tinybsd image.

update src

pkg_add -r cvsup-without-gui
cat /usr/share/examples/cvsup/standard-supfile | sed
s/CHANGE_THIS/<localmirror>/ > /root/sup

my localmirror is cvsup.nl5.freebsd.org since I live in the Netherlands.
Please find a local site.

cvsup /root/sup
cd /usr/src
sudo make buildworld

optional strip your kernel

cd /sys/i386/conf
sudo cp GENERIC MY_KERNEL
sudo vi MY_KERNEL

build from src

cd /usr/src
sudo make buildkernel KERNCONF=MY_KERNEL
sudo make install KERNCONF=MY_KERNEL

reboot in single user mode

reboot
     1. choose single user mode in the bootmenu
mergemaster
cd /usr/src
make installworld
mergemaster -p
reboot

update ports

sudo portsnap fetch
sudo portsnap extract

make tinybsd image ¶

cd /usr/src/tools/tools/tools/tinybsd
sudo ./tinybsd

maintaince on the image ¶

mount the file

sudo mdconfig -a -t vnode -t tinybsd.bin
     1. creating md0
sudo mount /dev/md0a /mnt

fix current bugs in tinybsd for example

sudo cp /etc/mtree/* /mnt/etc/mtree/

or the make ssh keys

sudo chroot /mnt
/etc/rc.d/sshd
exit

virutalization ¶

I use qemu to test my images.

installing qemu

cd /usr/ports/emulators/qemu
sudo make install
option kqemu = yes

prepare network for qemu

I have fxp0 as a nic

ifconfig tun create
     1. creating tun0
ifconfig bridge create
     1. creating bridge 0
ifconfig bridge0 addm tun0 addm fxp0 up

load modules

kldload aio kqemu

booting the image in qemu

sudo qemu -hda tinybsd.bin -net nic -net tun
     1. bug!
ufs:ad0a

Distribution ¶

This make a smaller file for download and more important Window users
can write the file on flash or usb drive. See Manual Kaspers site for
monowall and specially physdiskwrite.

tar -cvjf tinybsd.bin.bz tinybsd.bin

writing to disk

     1. see dmesg for the correct disk
zcat tinybsd.bin.bz | dd of=/dev/<disk> bs=16k


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[Marten Vijn]

On Tue, 2007-11-13 at 19:54 +0800, OutbackDingo wrote:
> HAHAH sorry for the top post but I actually had a copy saved, so here it
> is

aye, that helps :)
Marten

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[Oliver Fromme]

 > update src
 >
 > pkg_add -r cvsup-without-gui

That's not necessary.  You don't need ot install cvsup.

 > cvsup /root/sup

Use csup(1) instead.  No changes to the supfile required.

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[Marten Vijn]

On Tue, 2007-11-13 at 09:06 +0800, Sunry Chen wrote:

> On Nov 12, 2007 8:00 PM,  <freebsd-small-request@...> wrote:
> > From: Marten Vijn <info@...>
> > a comprehensive overview how i use tinybsd
> > and maintain images
> >
> > http://martenvijn.nl/trac/wiki/TinyBSD
> >
> > feedback is welcome,
> >
> > Marten
>
> While it's empty?

It's back;

- changed some points (Helpfull tips)
- added more links to the handbook, howto's
- closed wiki "edit" acces.

Thanks all that helped!

kind regard,
Marten


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[Giorgos Keramidas-2]

On 2007-11-11 23:13, Marten Vijn <info@...> wrote:
> a comprehensive overview how i use tinybsd
> and maintain images
>
> http://martenvijn.nl/trac/wiki/TinyBSD

Hi Marten,

Can we lure you into writing this up as an 'article', which is
committable or almost committable to CVS?

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[Marten Vijn]

On Thu, 2007-11-15 at 03:32 +0200, Giorgos Keramidas wrote:

> On 2007-11-11 23:13, Marten Vijn <info@...> wrote:
> > a comprehensive overview how i use tinybsd
> > and maintain images
> >
> > http://martenvijn.nl/trac/wiki/TinyBSD
>
> Hi Marten,
>
> Can we lure you into writing this up as an 'article', which is
> committable or almost committable to CVS?
>

I could try and might use some help in this,

I am not a native english speaker and have dislexia, but neigther of
them even stopped me doing things :)  

The question is what would it take?

Marten


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[Giorgos Keramidas-2]

-current dropped from the Cc: list.  This is most interesting for
freebsd-small users, than -current subscribers.

On 2007-11-15 19:24, Marten Vijn <info@...> wrote:

>On Thu, 2007-11-15 at 03:32 +0200, Giorgos Keramidas wrote:
>>On 2007-11-11 23:13, Marten Vijn <info@...> wrote:
>>> a comprehensive overview how i use tinybsd
>>> and maintain images
>>>
>>> http://martenvijn.nl/trac/wiki/TinyBSD
>>
>> Hi Marten,
>>
>> Can we lure you into writing this up as an 'article', which is
>> committable or almost committable to CVS?
>
> I could try and might use some help in this,

My original email was an offer to help with the details of doing this.
It wasn't explicitly stated, but it is now :)

> The question is what would it take?

The wiki page is a good enough text as an initial mini-guide for
tinybsd, but I think we can arrange it a bit, expand parts of it,
and describe a few more tricks.

What I had originally in mind was working with you towards what an
article would include, i.e.:

        - Introduction

                - What is TinyBSD
                - Features of TinyBSD

        - How to obtain TinyBSD

        - Creating TinyBSD images

                - Building the base TinyBSD system

                - Post-build configuration of TinyBSD

                - Bundling ports & packages in TinyBSD images

        - Testing TinyBSD images

        - Updating TinyBSD images

This sort of article would probably need a bit or re-arranging of the
original Wiki text, but it seems like something very interesting for
potential users of TinyBSD.

Does the table-of-contents mock up shown above look ok?  Would you add
more sections/parts to it?

- Giorgos

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[Dirk-Willem van Gulik]

Giorgos Keramidas wrote:

> The wiki page is a good enough text as an initial mini-guide for
> tinybsd, but I think we can arrange it a bit, expand parts of it,
> and describe a few more tricks.
>
> What I had originally in mind was working with you towards what an
> article would include, i.e.:
>
> - Introduction
>
> - What is TinyBSD
> - Features of TinyBSD
>
> - How to obtain TinyBSD
>
> - Creating TinyBSD images
>
> - Building the base TinyBSD system
>
> - Post-build configuration of TinyBSD
>
> - Bundling ports & packages in TinyBSD images
>
> - Testing TinyBSD images
>
> - Updating TinyBSD images
>
> This sort of article would probably need a bit or re-arranging of the
> original Wiki text, but it seems like something very interesting for
> potential users of TinyBSD.
>
> Does the table-of-contents mock up shown above look ok?  Would you add
> more sections/parts to it?

One of the more powerful things on the wiki page is the link to qemu; so
I would expand on that - i.e add an example efficient debug loop into
there; or in fact walkign the user through a 'make' , 'test' and 'fix'
and re-test cycle.

Dw
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[Remko Lodder-2]

On Thu, November 15, 2007 7:24 pm, Marten Vijn wrote:

> On Thu, 2007-11-15 at 03:32 +0200, Giorgos Keramidas wrote:
>> On 2007-11-11 23:13, Marten Vijn <info@...> wrote:
>> > a comprehensive overview how i use tinybsd
>> > and maintain images
>> >
>> > http://martenvijn.nl/trac/wiki/TinyBSD
>>
>> Hi Marten,
>>
>> Can we lure you into writing this up as an 'article', which is
>> committable or almost committable to CVS?
>>
>
> I could try and might use some help in this,
>
> I am not a native english speaker and have dislexia, but neigther of
> them even stopped me doing things :)
>
> The question is what would it take?
>
> Marten

Since you and I are both of the same language I could guide you with the
process of the SGML and the like :-)

You could start by reading through
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/fdp-primer, which tells about our
style requirements and the like, I can review that part for you as well as
some basic things and make sure that the SGML etc is in correct shape so
that we can eventually import it into the tree (ofcourse it would be great
to let others review it as well because more eyes catch more things ;-))

Let me know if you are interested in this!

Cheers
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[Wilko Bulte]

Quoting Remko Lodder, who wrote on Thu, Nov 15, 2007 at 08:42:33PM +0100 ..

> On Thu, November 15, 2007 7:24 pm, Marten Vijn wrote:
> > On Thu, 2007-11-15 at 03:32 +0200, Giorgos Keramidas wrote:
> >> On 2007-11-11 23:13, Marten Vijn <info@...> wrote:
> >> > a comprehensive overview how i use tinybsd
> >> > and maintain images
> >> >
> >> > http://martenvijn.nl/trac/wiki/TinyBSD
> >>
> >> Hi Marten,
> >>
> >> Can we lure you into writing this up as an 'article', which is
> >> committable or almost committable to CVS?
> >>
> >
> > I could try and might use some help in this,
> >
> > I am not a native english speaker and have dislexia, but neigther of
> > them even stopped me doing things :)
> >
> > The question is what would it take?
> >
> > Marten
>
>
> Since you and I are both of the same language I could guide you with the
> process of the SGML and the like :-)
>
> You could start by reading through
> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/fdp-primer, which tells about our
> style requirements and the like, I can review that part for you as well as
> some basic things and make sure that the SGML etc is in correct shape so
> that we can eventually import it into the tree (ofcourse it would be great
> to let others review it as well because more eyes catch more things ;-))
>
> Let me know if you are interested in this!

And Marten.. be careful out there..  before you know it they are talking
'doc commit bit' behind your back..

8-)

Wilko

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[jlm]

greetings,

On Thu, Nov 15, 2007 at 08:11:38PM +0100, Dirk-Willem van Gulik wrote:
> Giorgos Keramidas wrote:
>
> > The wiki page is a good enough text as an initial mini-guide for
> > tinybsd, but I think we can arrange it a bit, expand parts of it,
> > and describe a few more tricks.

sorry, for my silly question, but i thought that freebsd-small@ was
discontinued/disbanded in favour off a new group called
freebsd-embedded@ ??

if this is correct, would not this thread/dissussion be better held in
that group or is there  soem reason to have this discussin in thsi
older/old group ?? i'm just a little more confused than usual .. grin.

it would seem to make sence to have a wider target audience, it seems t
me, or have i missed teh point or something like that ?? apologies if i
have. should have i set teh reply-to: header to 'freebsd-embedded@' ??

most kind regards

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[Marten Vijn]

On Thu, 2007-11-15 at 21:06 +0200, Giorgos Keramidas wrote:
> -current dropped from the Cc: list.  This is most interesting for
> freebsd-small users, than -current subscribers.

included freebsd-embedded@

>
> On 2007-11-15 19:24, Marten Vijn <info@...> wrote:
> >On Thu, 2007-11-15 at 03:32 +0200, Giorgos Keramidas wrote:
> >>On 2007-11-11 23:13, Marten Vijn <info@...> wrote:
> >>> a comprehensive overview how i use tinybsd
> >>> and maintain images
> >>>
> >>> http://martenvijn.nl/trac/wiki/TinyBSD
> >>
> >> Hi Marten,
> >>
> >> Can we lure you into writing this up as an 'article', which is
> >> committable or almost committable to CVS?
> >
> > I could try and might use some help in this,
>

<snip>

> What I had originally in mind was working with you towards what an
> article would include, i.e.:
>
> - Introduction
>
> - What is TinyBSD
> - Features of TinyBSD
>
> - How to obtain TinyBSD
>
> - Creating TinyBSD images
>
> - Building the base TinyBSD system
>
> - Post-build configuration of TinyBSD
>
> - Bundling ports & packages in TinyBSD images

up till here there is quite clear documentation:

http://www.tinybsd.org/tinybsd/Documentation


>
> - Testing TinyBSD images
>
> - Updating TinyBSD images

I could write this, but more as proces to get a image ready for a task.

>
> This sort of article would probably need a bit or re-arranging of the
> original Wiki text, but it seems like something very interesting for
> potential users of TinyBSD.

Or should there be somewhere an intergral document containing everthing.
Then I would be wise include above documents authors.

> Does the table-of-contents mock up shown above look ok?  Would you add
> more sections/parts to it?

There might be some more parts:

Common ways on running host: does and don'ts

Working with cf-cards (some info I remember from Paul-Henning Kamp from
EuroBSD Basel 2005)

I 've written today a part on PXE (for net4826) boards with onboard
flash.
http://martenvijn.nl/trac/wiki/PXEboot related to tinybsd.

I have some scripts in pre-alpha than could be examples,
in use in bluespot (a tool scanning bluetooth devices)

http://bluespot.wifisoft.org 

In some time I hope to cleanup code far enough to push it to a public
svn.

Thanks all,

Marten



> - Giorgos
>

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[Marten Vijn]

On Fri, 2007-11-16 at 09:38 +1100, jonathan michaels wrote:

> greetings,
> On Thu, Nov 15, 2007 at 08:11:38PM +0100, Dirk-Willem van Gulik wrote:
> > Giorgos Keramidas wrote:
> >
> > > The wiki page is a good enough text as an initial mini-guide for
> > > tinybsd, but I think we can arrange it a bit, expand parts of it,
> > > and describe a few more tricks.
>
> sorry, for my silly question, but i thought that freebsd-small@ was
> discontinued/disbanded in favour off a new group called
> freebsd-embedded@ ??

>
> if this is correct, would not this thread/dissussion be better held in
> that group or is there  soem reason to have this discussin in thsi
> older/old group ?? i'm just a little more confused than usual .. grin.
>
> it would seem to make sence to have a wider target audience, it seems t
> me, or have i missed teh point or something like that ?? apologies if i
> have. should have i set teh reply-to: header to 'freebsd-embedded@' ??
>

I am not sure what is the best place.
I posted the link also on embedded. however most replies where on
current/small.

I'll keep it on posting on small & embedded,

thanks,
Marten


> most kind regards
>
> jonathan
>

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[Giorgos Keramidas-2]

On 2007-11-15 21:15, Wilko Bulte <wb@...> wrote:

>Quoting Remko Lodder, who wrote on Thu, Nov 15, 2007 at 08:42:33PM +0100 ..
>>On Thu, November 15, 2007 7:24 pm, Marten Vijn wrote:
>>>On Thu, 2007-11-15 at 03:32 +0200, Giorgos Keramidas wrote:
>>>> Can we lure you into writing this up as an 'article', which is
>>>> committable or almost committable to CVS?
>>>
>>> I could try and might use some help in this,
>>
>> Since you and I are both of the same language I could guide you with
>> the process of the SGML and the like :-)
>
> And Marten.. be careful out there..  before you know it they are
> talking 'doc commit bit' behind your back..

Damn, my sinister plans were uncovered :-)

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[M. Warner Losh]

In message: <1195169880.3240.46.camel@...>
            Marten Vijn <info@...> writes:
: On Thu, 2007-11-15 at 21:06 +0200, Giorgos Keramidas wrote:
: > -current dropped from the Cc: list.  This is most interesting for
: > freebsd-small users, than -current subscribers.
:
: included freebsd-embedded@
:
: >
: > On 2007-11-15 19:24, Marten Vijn <info@...> wrote:
: > >On Thu, 2007-11-15 at 03:32 +0200, Giorgos Keramidas wrote:
: > >>On 2007-11-11 23:13, Marten Vijn <info@...> wrote:
: > >>> a comprehensive overview how i use tinybsd
: > >>> and maintain images
: > >>>
: > >>> http://martenvijn.nl/trac/wiki/TinyBSD
: > >>
: > >> Hi Marten,
: > >>
: > >> Can we lure you into writing this up as an 'article', which is
: > >> committable or almost committable to CVS?
: > >
: > > I could try and might use some help in this,
: >
: <snip>
:
: > What I had originally in mind was working with you towards what an
: > article would include, i.e.:
: >
: > - Introduction
: >
: > - What is TinyBSD
: > - Features of TinyBSD
: >
: > - How to obtain TinyBSD
: >
: > - Creating TinyBSD images
: >
: > - Building the base TinyBSD system
: >
: > - Post-build configuration of TinyBSD
: >
: > - Bundling ports & packages in TinyBSD images
:
: up till here there is quite clear documentation:
:
: http://www.tinybsd.org/tinybsd/Documentation
:
:
: >
: > - Testing TinyBSD images
: >
: > - Updating TinyBSD images
:
: I could write this, but more as proces to get a image ready for a task.
:
: >
: > This sort of article would probably need a bit or re-arranging of the
: > original Wiki text, but it seems like something very interesting for
: > potential users of TinyBSD.
:
: Or should there be somewhere an intergral document containing everthing.
: Then I would be wise include above documents authors.
:
: > Does the table-of-contents mock up shown above look ok?  Would you add
: > more sections/parts to it?
:
: There might be some more parts:
:
: Common ways on running host: does and don'ts
:
: Working with cf-cards (some info I remember from Paul-Henning Kamp from
: EuroBSD Basel 2005)
:
: I 've written today a part on PXE (for net4826) boards with onboard
: flash.
: http://martenvijn.nl/trac/wiki/PXEboot related to tinybsd.
:
: I have some scripts in pre-alpha than could be examples,
: in use in bluespot (a tool scanning bluetooth devices)
:
: http://bluespot.wifisoft.org 
:
: In some time I hope to cleanup code far enough to push it to a public
: svn.

I should also try to get the 'cross build for arm with TinyBSD'
section written too, eh?

Warner
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[Daniel Gerzo]

Hello Giorgos,

Friday, November 16, 2007, 2:29:27 AM, you wrote:

> On 2007-11-15 21:15, Wilko Bulte <wb@...> wrote:
>>Quoting Remko Lodder, who wrote on Thu, Nov 15, 2007 at 08:42:33PM +0100 ..
>>>On Thu, November 15, 2007 7:24 pm, Marten Vijn wrote:
>>>>On Thu, 2007-11-15 at 03:32 +0200, Giorgos Keramidas wrote:
>>>>> Can we lure you into writing this up as an 'article', which is
>>>>> committable or almost committable to CVS?
>>>>
>>>> I could try and might use some help in this,
>>>
>>> Since you and I are both of the same language I could guide you with
>>> the process of the SGML and the like :-)
>>
>> And Marten.. be careful out there..  before you know it they are
>> talking 'doc commit bit' behind your back..

:-D

> Damn, my sinister plans were uncovered :-)

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[Marten Vijn]

On Fri, 2007-11-16 at 09:42 +0100, Daniel Gerzo wrote:

> Hello Giorgos,
>
> Friday, November 16, 2007, 2:29:27 AM, you wrote:
>
> > On 2007-11-15 21:15, Wilko Bulte <wb@...> wrote:
> >>Quoting Remko Lodder, who wrote on Thu, Nov 15, 2007 at 08:42:33PM +0100 ..
> >>>On Thu, November 15, 2007 7:24 pm, Marten Vijn wrote:
> >>>>On Thu, 2007-11-15 at 03:32 +0200, Giorgos Keramidas wrote:
> >>>>> Can we lure you into writing this up as an 'article', which is
> >>>>> committable or almost committable to CVS?
> >>>>
> >>>> I could try and might use some help in this,
> >>>
> >>> Since you and I are both of the same language I could guide you with
> >>> the process of the SGML and the like :-)
> >>
> >> And Marten.. be careful out there..  before you know it they are
> >> talking 'doc commit bit' behind your back..
>
> :-D
>
> > Damn, my sinister plans were uncovered :-)

I see no evil in that, as it would be documentation in the right place,
aint it?
However it is not that far yet. And I am wondering how time consuming
this will be. Experiance will tell.

step 1. reading doc's at
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/fdp-primer/book.html
step 2. make a place to work (svn)
step 3. I 'll write some parts
step 4. ask for feedback
step 5. see further from there

kind regards,
Marten




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