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undated tape - side a
by KLX
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max/msp patch + FL studio + custom samples + FM7 + coughing + tape recorder
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Re: undated tape - side a
by Derek Crofut
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you know, i get a word a day in my inbox.
sometimes they fit certain daily situations. today's word? A.Word.A.Day with Anu Garg gimcrack PRONUNCIATION: (JIM-krak) <http://wordsmith.org/words/gimcrack.mp3> MEANING: *noun:* Something cheap and showy, of little use. *adjective:* Showy, but worthless. _________________________ draw your own conclusions On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 10:43 AM, KLX <invisible@...> wrote: > max/msp patch + FL studio + custom samples + FM7 + coughing + tape recorder > > http://www.kalx.com/f/music/kalx%20-%20undated%20tape%20-%20side%20a%20.mp3 > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@... > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@... > > -- ‹‹you and I are not snobs. We can never be born enough›› - e e cummings |
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Re: undated tape - side a
by KLX
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much like your posting. Derek Crofut wrote: > you know, i get a word a day in my inbox. > > sometimes they fit certain daily situations. today's word? > > A.Word.A.Day > with Anu Garg > > gimcrack > > PRONUNCIATION: > (JIM-krak) <http://wordsmith.org/words/gimcrack.mp3> > > MEANING: > *noun:* Something cheap and showy, of little use. > *adjective:* Showy, but worthless. > _________________________ > > draw your own conclusions > > On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 10:43 AM, KLX <invisible@...> wrote: > > >> max/msp patch + FL studio + custom samples + FM7 + coughing + tape recorder >> >> http://www.kalx.com/f/music/kalx%20-%20undated%20tape%20-%20side%20a%20.mp3 >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@... >> For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@... >> >> >> > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@... For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@... |
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Re: undated tape - side a
by Kent Williams
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why does all your stuff sound like it was recorded on a dictaphone in
the back of a city bus. Are you trying to make some sort of point? It's sad too, because this particular thing has some nice moments. Some sort of mutant 2 step thing going on. On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 9:43 AM, KLX <invisible@...> wrote: > max/msp patch + FL studio + custom samples + FM7 + coughing + tape recorder > > http://www.kalx.com/f/music/kalx%20-%20undated%20tape%20-%20side%20a%20.mp3 > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@... > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@... > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@... For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@... |
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Re: undated tape - side a
by KLX
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i am just so excited to tape record things again. anything on a tape is
a journey into the wonderful world of magic technology or hidden variable technology. kent williams wrote: > why does all your stuff sound like it was recorded on a dictaphone in > the back of a city bus. Are you trying to make some sort of point? > > It's sad too, because this particular thing has some nice moments. > Some sort of mutant 2 step thing going on. > > On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 9:43 AM, KLX <invisible@...> wrote: > >> max/msp patch + FL studio + custom samples + FM7 + coughing + tape recorder >> >> http://www.kalx.com/f/music/kalx%20-%20undated%20tape%20-%20side%20a%20.mp3 >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@... >> For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@... >> >> >> > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@... For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@... |
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Re: undated tape - side a
by Wendy Branson-3
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You do know you've already ruined any chance you had of fair criticism of
your work here, right? just checking.... On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 10:53 AM, KLX <invisible@...> wrote: > > > much like your posting. > > > > Derek Crofut wrote: > >> you know, i get a word a day in my inbox. >> >> sometimes they fit certain daily situations. today's word? >> >> A.Word.A.Day >> with Anu Garg >> >> gimcrack >> >> PRONUNCIATION: >> (JIM-krak) <http://wordsmith.org/words/gimcrack.mp3> >> >> MEANING: >> *noun:* Something cheap and showy, of little use. >> *adjective:* Showy, but worthless. >> _________________________ >> >> draw your own conclusions >> >> On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 10:43 AM, KLX <invisible@...> wrote: >> >> >> >>> max/msp patch + FL studio + custom samples + FM7 + coughing + tape >>> recorder >>> >>> >>> http://www.kalx.com/f/music/kalx%20-%20undated%20tape%20-%20side%20a%20.mp3 >>> >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@... >>> For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@... >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@... > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@... > > -- Wendy Branson (Cloudy Grey) Wednesday 10-midnight EST >> www.wxdu.org |
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Re: undated tape - side a
by Derek Crofut
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on that note, i'm actually looking for critics to dissect my latest effort.
"pm me" if you're up for it. On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 11:01 AM, Wendy Branson <speechless1974@...>wrote: > You do know you've already ruined any chance you had of fair criticism of > your work here, right? > > just checking.... > > On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 10:53 AM, KLX <invisible@...> wrote: > > > > > > > much like your posting. > > > > > > > > Derek Crofut wrote: > > > >> you know, i get a word a day in my inbox. > >> > >> sometimes they fit certain daily situations. today's word? > >> > >> A.Word.A.Day > >> with Anu Garg > >> > >> gimcrack > >> > >> PRONUNCIATION: > >> (JIM-krak) <http://wordsmith.org/words/gimcrack.mp3> > >> > >> MEANING: > >> *noun:* Something cheap and showy, of little use. > >> *adjective:* Showy, but worthless. > >> _________________________ > >> > >> draw your own conclusions > >> > >> On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 10:43 AM, KLX <invisible@...> wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >>> max/msp patch + FL studio + custom samples + FM7 + coughing + tape > >>> recorder > >>> > >>> > >>> > http://www.kalx.com/f/music/kalx%20-%20undated%20tape%20-%20side%20a%20.mp3 > >>> > >>> > >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@... > >>> For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@... > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@... > > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@... > > > > > > > -- > Wendy Branson (Cloudy Grey) > Wednesday 10-midnight EST >> www.wxdu.org > -- ‹‹you and I are not snobs. We can never be born enough›› - e e cummings |
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Re: undated tape - side a
by KLX
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you don't even know what's going on
did i ask for something? besides where's w Wendy Branson wrote: > You do know you've already ruined any chance you had of fair criticism > of your work here, right? > > just checking.... > > On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 10:53 AM, KLX <invisible@... > <mailto:invisible@...>> wrote: > > > > much like your posting. > > > > Derek Crofut wrote: > > you know, i get a word a day in my inbox. > > sometimes they fit certain daily situations. today's word? > > A.Word.A.Day > with Anu Garg > > gimcrack > > PRONUNCIATION: > (JIM-krak) <http://wordsmith.org/words/gimcrack.mp3> > > MEANING: > *noun:* Something cheap and showy, of little use. > *adjective:* Showy, but worthless. > _________________________ > > draw your own conclusions > > On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 10:43 AM, KLX <invisible@... > <mailto:invisible@...>> wrote: > > > > max/msp patch + FL studio + custom samples + FM7 + > coughing + tape recorder > > http://www.kalx.com/f/music/kalx%20-%20undated%20tape%20-%20side%20a%20.mp3 > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@... > <mailto:idm-unsubscribe@...> > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@... > <mailto:idm-help@...> > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@... > <mailto:idm-unsubscribe@...> > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@... > <mailto:idm-help@...> > > > > > -- > Wendy Branson (Cloudy Grey) > Wednesday 10-midnight EST >> www.wxdu.org <http://www.wxdu.org> --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@... For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@... |
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Re: undated tape - side a
by 22tape
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i like sticky taping my pee pee to my stomach...then doing backward heel
grabs until my pee pee pops off with the tape. its a new excersise move that I call KLX...I'm a fitness monster.... On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 8:59 AM, KLX <invisible@...> wrote: > i am just so excited to tape record things again. anything on a tape is a > journey into the wonderful world of magic technology or hidden variable > technology. > > > kent williams wrote: > >> why does all your stuff sound like it was recorded on a dictaphone in >> the back of a city bus. Are you trying to make some sort of point? >> >> It's sad too, because this particular thing has some nice moments. >> Some sort of mutant 2 step thing going on. >> >> On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 9:43 AM, KLX <invisible@...> wrote: >> >> >>> max/msp patch + FL studio + custom samples + FM7 + coughing + tape >>> recorder >>> >>> >>> http://www.kalx.com/f/music/kalx%20-%20undated%20tape%20-%20side%20a%20.mp3 >>> >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@... >>> For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@... >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@... > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@... > > -- Jared Dunne http://www.myspace.com/22tape http://www.22tape.blogspot.com |
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Re: undated tape - side a
by KLX
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it's cool but you need minimalism with broader range of frequencies.
Derek Crofut wrote: > on that note, i'm actually looking for critics to dissect my latest effort. > > "pm me" if you're up for it. > > On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 11:01 AM, Wendy Branson <speechless1974@...>wrote: > > >> You do know you've already ruined any chance you had of fair criticism of >> your work here, right? >> >> just checking.... >> >> On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 10:53 AM, KLX <invisible@...> wrote: >> >> >>> much like your posting. >>> >>> >>> >>> Derek Crofut wrote: >>> >>> >>>> you know, i get a word a day in my inbox. >>>> >>>> sometimes they fit certain daily situations. today's word? >>>> >>>> A.Word.A.Day >>>> with Anu Garg >>>> >>>> gimcrack >>>> >>>> PRONUNCIATION: >>>> (JIM-krak) <http://wordsmith.org/words/gimcrack.mp3> >>>> >>>> MEANING: >>>> *noun:* Something cheap and showy, of little use. >>>> *adjective:* Showy, but worthless. >>>> _________________________ >>>> >>>> draw your own conclusions >>>> >>>> On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 10:43 AM, KLX <invisible@...> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> max/msp patch + FL studio + custom samples + FM7 + coughing + tape >>>>> recorder >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >> http://www.kalx.com/f/music/kalx%20-%20undated%20tape%20-%20side%20a%20.mp3 >> >>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@... >>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@... >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@... >>> For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@... >>> >>> >>> >> -- >> Wendy Branson (Cloudy Grey) >> Wednesday 10-midnight EST >> www.wxdu.org >> >> > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@... For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@... |
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Re: undated tape - side a
by KLX
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hahaha what
Jared Dunne wrote: > i like sticky taping my pee pee to my stomach...then doing backward > heel grabs until my pee pee pops off with the tape. its a new > excersise move that I call KLX...I'm a fitness monster.... > > On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 8:59 AM, KLX <invisible@... > <mailto:invisible@...>> wrote: > > i am just so excited to tape record things again. anything on a > tape is a journey into the wonderful world of magic technology or > hidden variable technology. > > > kent williams wrote: > > why does all your stuff sound like it was recorded on a > dictaphone in > the back of a city bus. Are you trying to make some sort of point? > > It's sad too, because this particular thing has some nice moments. > Some sort of mutant 2 step thing going on. > > On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 9:43 AM, KLX <invisible@... > <mailto:invisible@...>> wrote: > > > max/msp patch + FL studio + custom samples + FM7 + > coughing + tape recorder > > http://www.kalx.com/f/music/kalx%20-%20undated%20tape%20-%20side%20a%20.mp3 > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@... > <mailto:idm-unsubscribe@...> > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@... > <mailto:idm-help@...> > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@... > <mailto:idm-unsubscribe@...> > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@... > <mailto:idm-help@...> > > > > > -- > Jared Dunne > http://www.myspace.com/22tape > http://www.22tape.blogspot.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@... For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@... |
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Re: undated tape - side a
by Clint Anderson
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i dont judge a persons music by their personality, if i did, i would have to
throw away every cd i own i think On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 10:16 AM, KLX <invisible@...> wrote: > hahaha what > > Jared Dunne wrote: > >> i like sticky taping my pee pee to my stomach...then doing backward heel >> grabs until my pee pee pops off with the tape. its a new excersise move >> that I call KLX...I'm a fitness monster.... >> >> On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 8:59 AM, KLX <invisible@... <mailto: >> invisible@...>> wrote: >> >> i am just so excited to tape record things again. anything on a >> tape is a journey into the wonderful world of magic technology or >> hidden variable technology. >> >> >> kent williams wrote: >> >> why does all your stuff sound like it was recorded on a >> dictaphone in >> the back of a city bus. Are you trying to make some sort of point? >> >> It's sad too, because this particular thing has some nice moments. >> Some sort of mutant 2 step thing going on. >> >> On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 9:43 AM, KLX <invisible@... >> <mailto:invisible@...>> wrote: >> >> max/msp patch + FL studio + custom samples + FM7 + >> coughing + tape recorder >> >> >> http://www.kalx.com/f/music/kalx%20-%20undated%20tape%20-%20side%20a%20.mp3 >> >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@... >> <mailto:idm-unsubscribe@...> >> For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@... >> <mailto:idm-help@...> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@... >> <mailto:idm-unsubscribe@...> >> For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@... >> <mailto:idm-help@...> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Jared Dunne >> http://www.myspace.com/22tape >> http://www.22tape.blogspot.com >> > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@... > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@... > > |
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Re: undated tape - side a
by 22tape
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listened to the track. and some of the others he posted. this has nothing
to do with his personality-- his music doesn't click with me. but i'm just like every other asshole with an opinion. i'm sure someone might enjoy these. now...off to do more KLX inspired calisthenics.. On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 10:08 AM, Clint Anderson <clinta@...> wrote: > i dont judge a persons music by their personality, if i did, i would have > to > throw away every cd i own i think > > > > On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 10:16 AM, KLX <invisible@...> wrote: > > > hahaha what > > > > Jared Dunne wrote: > > > >> i like sticky taping my pee pee to my stomach...then doing backward heel > >> grabs until my pee pee pops off with the tape. its a new excersise move > >> that I call KLX...I'm a fitness monster.... > >> > >> On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 8:59 AM, KLX <invisible@... <mailto: > >> invisible@...>> wrote: > >> > >> i am just so excited to tape record things again. anything on a > >> tape is a journey into the wonderful world of magic technology or > >> hidden variable technology. > >> > >> > >> kent williams wrote: > >> > >> why does all your stuff sound like it was recorded on a > >> dictaphone in > >> the back of a city bus. Are you trying to make some sort of > point? > >> > >> It's sad too, because this particular thing has some nice > moments. > >> Some sort of mutant 2 step thing going on. > >> > >> On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 9:43 AM, KLX <invisible@... > >> <mailto:invisible@...>> wrote: > >> > >> max/msp patch + FL studio + custom samples + FM7 + > >> coughing + tape recorder > >> > >> > >> > http://www.kalx.com/f/music/kalx%20-%20undated%20tape%20-%20side%20a%20.mp3 > >> > >> > >> > >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@... > >> <mailto:idm-unsubscribe@...> > >> For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@... > >> <mailto:idm-help@...> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@... > >> <mailto:idm-unsubscribe@...> > >> For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@... > >> <mailto:idm-help@...> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Jared Dunne > >> http://www.myspace.com/22tape > >> http://www.22tape.blogspot.com > >> > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@... > > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@... > > > > > -- Jared Dunne http://www.myspace.com/22tape http://www.22tape.blogspot.com |
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Re: undated tape - side a
by Kent Williams
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I listened to most of that tape, because every time it got repetetive,
he'd do something kind of interesting. There really could be something there if A) He'd record it properly and B) He'd edit it down to the best bits arranged artfully. I'm not complaining about it being recorded to cassette -- that is a valid artistic choice. But it sounds like he recorded it with a boombox using the built-in mini-microphone. It is obvious from the quality of the music that he knows how to do a better job than he's doing, which, like most things about this dude, is pretty frustrating. On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 11:28 AM, Jared Dunne <22tape@...> wrote: > listened to the track. and some of the others he posted. this has nothing > to do with his personality-- his music doesn't click with me. but i'm just > like every other asshole with an opinion. i'm sure someone might enjoy > these. > > now...off to do more KLX inspired calisthenics.. > > On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 10:08 AM, Clint Anderson <clinta@...> wrote: > >> i dont judge a persons music by their personality, if i did, i would have >> to >> throw away every cd i own i think >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@... For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@... |
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Re: undated tape - side a
by Benjamin McCook
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i agree with Kent. I think people get too enamored with their "darlings" and think whatever he or she has is so intensely interesting that he or she inundates the listener with it forever. I think the thing about the types of sounds and methods that are used in IDM are interesting, but with the amount of repetition they are stretched out with to take up play time, they become so boring. There are parts of the tape that are skillful, but they need to be whittled out. I think over forty minutes for just that is a little obscene. Most of the stuff can be pared down and could make a few three of four minute songs. Editing is what sets IDM apart, but few of the musicians seem to use it. --- On Fri, 10/23/09, kent williams <chaircrusher@...> wrote: From: kent williams <chaircrusher@...> Subject: Re: [idm] undated tape - side a To: "do id" <idm@...> Date: Friday, October 23, 2009, 5:09 PM I listened to most of that tape, because every time it got repetetive, he'd do something kind of interesting. There really could be something there if A) He'd record it properly and B) He'd edit it down to the best bits arranged artfully. I'm not complaining about it being recorded to cassette -- that is a valid artistic choice. But it sounds like he recorded it with a boombox using the built-in mini-microphone. It is obvious from the quality of the music that he knows how to do a better job than he's doing, which, like most things about this dude, is pretty frustrating. On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 11:28 AM, Jared Dunne <22tape@...> wrote: > listened to the track. and some of the others he posted. this has nothing > to do with his personality-- his music doesn't click with me. but i'm just > like every other asshole with an opinion. i'm sure someone might enjoy > these. > > now...off to do more KLX inspired calisthenics.. > > On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 10:08 AM, Clint Anderson <clinta@...> wrote: > >> i dont judge a persons music by their personality, if i did, i would have >> to >> throw away every cd i own i think >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@... For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@... |
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Re: undated tape - side a
by Clint Anderson
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probably more time is spent on my tracks re-listening to them and editing
out elements that run too long, bad transitions between parts, or boring bits that need something injected into them... Clint Anderson System Administrator On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 2:38 PM, Benjamin McCook <ben_mccook@...>wrote: > > i agree with Kent. I think people get too enamored with their "darlings" > and think whatever he or she has is so intensely interesting that he or she > inundates the listener with it forever. > I think the thing about the types of sounds and methods that are used in > IDM are interesting, but with the amount of repetition they are stretched > out with to take up play time, they become so boring. > There are parts of the tape that are skillful, but they need to be whittled > out. I think over forty minutes for just that is a little obscene. Most of > the stuff can be pared down and could make a few three of four minute songs. > > Editing is what sets IDM apart, but few of the musicians seem to use it. > --- On Fri, 10/23/09, kent williams <chaircrusher@...> wrote: > > From: kent williams <chaircrusher@...> > Subject: Re: [idm] undated tape - side a > To: "do id" <idm@...> > Date: Friday, October 23, 2009, 5:09 PM > > I listened to most of that tape, because every time it got repetetive, > he'd do something kind of interesting. There really could be > something there if A) He'd record it properly and B) He'd edit it down > to the best bits arranged artfully. > > I'm not complaining about it being recorded to cassette -- that is a > valid artistic choice. But it sounds like he recorded it with a > boombox using the built-in mini-microphone. It is obvious from the > quality of the music that he knows how to do a better job than he's > doing, which, like most things about this dude, is pretty frustrating. > > On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 11:28 AM, Jared Dunne <22tape@...> wrote: > > listened to the track. and some of the others he posted. this has > nothing > > to do with his personality-- his music doesn't click with me. but i'm > just > > like every other asshole with an opinion. i'm sure someone might enjoy > > these. > > > > now...off to do more KLX inspired calisthenics.. > > > > On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 10:08 AM, Clint Anderson <clinta@...> > wrote: > > > >> i dont judge a persons music by their personality, if i did, i would > have > >> to > >> throw away every cd i own i think > >> > >> > >> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@... > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@... > > > > > > |
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Re: undated tape - side a
by Benjamin McCook
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I believe it! I shouldn't have made that over generalization, but I do get aggravated listening to IDM sometimes for the reason I mentioned. It might be due in part to my impatience :)
--- On Fri, 10/23/09, Clint Anderson <clinta@...> wrote: From: Clint Anderson <clinta@...> Subject: Re: [idm] undated tape - side a To: "Benjamin McCook" <ben_mccook@...> Cc: idm@... Date: Friday, October 23, 2009, 7:54 PM probably more time is spent on my tracks re-listening to them and editing out elements that run too long, bad transitions between parts, or boring bits that need something injected into them... Clint Anderson System Administrator On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 2:38 PM, Benjamin McCook <ben_mccook@...>wrote: > > i agree with Kent. I think people get too enamored with their "darlings" > and think whatever he or she has is so intensely interesting that he or she > inundates the listener with it forever. > I think the thing about the types of sounds and methods that are used in > IDM are interesting, but with the amount of repetition they are stretched > out with to take up play time, they become so boring. > There are parts of the tape that are skillful, but they need to be whittled > out. I think over forty minutes for just that is a little obscene. Most of > the stuff can be pared down and could make a few three of four minute songs. > > Editing is what sets IDM apart, but few of the musicians seem to use it. > --- On Fri, 10/23/09, kent williams <chaircrusher@...> wrote: > > From: kent williams <chaircrusher@...> > Subject: Re: [idm] undated tape - side a > To: "do id" <idm@...> > Date: Friday, October 23, 2009, 5:09 PM > > I listened to most of that tape, because every time it got repetetive, > he'd do something kind of interesting. There really could be > something there if A) He'd record it properly and B) He'd edit it down > to the best bits arranged artfully. > > I'm not complaining about it being recorded to cassette -- that is a > valid artistic choice. But it sounds like he recorded it with a > boombox using the built-in mini-microphone. It is obvious from the > quality of the music that he knows how to do a better job than he's > doing, which, like most things about this dude, is pretty frustrating. > > On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 11:28 AM, Jared Dunne <22tape@...> wrote: > > listened to the track. and some of the others he posted. this has > nothing > > to do with his personality-- his music doesn't click with me. but i'm > just > > like every other asshole with an opinion. i'm sure someone might enjoy > > these. > > > > now...off to do more KLX inspired calisthenics.. > > > > On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 10:08 AM, Clint Anderson <clinta@...> > wrote: > > > >> i dont judge a persons music by their personality, if i did, i would > have > >> to > >> throw away every cd i own i think > >> > >> > >> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@... > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@... > > > > > > |
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Re: undated tape - side a
by Derek Crofut
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knowing ben for ben i would say more than likely
On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 4:09 PM, Benjamin McCook <ben_mccook@...>wrote: > I believe it! I shouldn't have made that over generalization, but I do get > aggravated listening to IDM sometimes for the reason I mentioned. It might > be due in part to my impatience :) > > --- On Fri, 10/23/09, Clint Anderson <clinta@...> wrote: > > From: Clint Anderson <clinta@...> > Subject: Re: [idm] undated tape - side a > To: "Benjamin McCook" <ben_mccook@...> > Cc: idm@... > Date: Friday, October 23, 2009, 7:54 PM > > probably more time is spent on my tracks re-listening to them and editing > out elements that run too long, bad transitions between parts, or boring > bits that need something injected into them... > > Clint Anderson > System Administrator > > > > On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 2:38 PM, Benjamin McCook <ben_mccook@... > >wrote: > > > > > i agree with Kent. I think people get too enamored with their "darlings" > > and think whatever he or she has is so intensely interesting that he or > she > > inundates the listener with it forever. > > I think the thing about the types of sounds and methods that are used in > > IDM are interesting, but with the amount of repetition they are stretched > > out with to take up play time, they become so boring. > > There are parts of the tape that are skillful, but they need to be > whittled > > out. I think over forty minutes for just that is a little obscene. Most > of > > the stuff can be pared down and could make a few three of four minute > songs. > > > > Editing is what sets IDM apart, but few of the musicians seem to use it. > > --- On Fri, 10/23/09, kent williams <chaircrusher@...> wrote: > > > > From: kent williams <chaircrusher@...> > > Subject: Re: [idm] undated tape - side a > > To: "do id" <idm@...> > > Date: Friday, October 23, 2009, 5:09 PM > > > > I listened to most of that tape, because every time it got repetetive, > > he'd do something kind of interesting. There really could be > > something there if A) He'd record it properly and B) He'd edit it down > > to the best bits arranged artfully. > > > > I'm not complaining about it being recorded to cassette -- that is a > > valid artistic choice. But it sounds like he recorded it with a > > boombox using the built-in mini-microphone. It is obvious from the > > quality of the music that he knows how to do a better job than he's > > doing, which, like most things about this dude, is pretty frustrating. > > > > On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 11:28 AM, Jared Dunne <22tape@...> wrote: > > > listened to the track. and some of the others he posted. this has > > nothing > > > to do with his personality-- his music doesn't click with me. but i'm > > just > > > like every other asshole with an opinion. i'm sure someone might enjoy > > > these. > > > > > > now...off to do more KLX inspired calisthenics.. > > > > > > On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 10:08 AM, Clint Anderson <clinta@...> > > wrote: > > > > > >> i dont judge a persons music by their personality, if i did, i would > > have > > >> to > > >> throw away every cd i own i think > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@... > > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- ‹‹you and I are not snobs. We can never be born enough›› - e e cummings |
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Re: undated tape - side a
by Clint Anderson
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having that said that i do notice the same thing in alot of music where im
thinking, this would be great if you would just kill that one sound in the background, or this was great for like 16 bars now you need to stop doing it,etc Clint Anderson System Administrator On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 3:09 PM, Benjamin McCook <ben_mccook@...>wrote: > I believe it! I shouldn't have made that over generalization, but I do get > aggravated listening to IDM sometimes for the reason I mentioned. It might > be due in part to my impatience :) > > --- On *Fri, 10/23/09, Clint Anderson <clinta@...>* wrote: > > > From: Clint Anderson <clinta@...> > Subject: Re: [idm] undated tape - side a > To: "Benjamin McCook" <ben_mccook@...> > Cc: idm@... > Date: Friday, October 23, 2009, 7:54 PM > > > probably more time is spent on my tracks re-listening to them and editing > out elements that run too long, bad transitions between parts, or boring > bits that need something injected into them... > > Clint Anderson > System Administrator > > > > On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 2:38 PM, Benjamin McCook <ben_mccook@...<http://mc/compose?to=ben_mccook@...> > >wrote: > > > > > i agree with Kent. I think people get too enamored with their "darlings" > > and think whatever he or she has is so intensely interesting that he or > she > > inundates the listener with it forever. > > I think the thing about the types of sounds and methods that are used in > > IDM are interesting, but with the amount of repetition they are stretched > > out with to take up play time, they become so boring. > > There are parts of the tape that are skillful, but they need to be > whittled > > out. I think over forty minutes for just that is a little obscene. Most > of > > the stuff can be pared down and could make a few three of four minute > songs. > > > > Editing is what sets IDM apart, but few of the musicians seem to use it. > > --- On Fri, 10/23/09, kent williams <chaircrusher@...<http://mc/compose?to=chaircrusher@...>> > wrote: > > > > From: kent williams <chaircrusher@...<http://mc/compose?to=chaircrusher@...> > > > > Subject: Re: [idm] undated tape - side a > > To: "do id" <idm@... <http://mc/compose?to=idm@...>> > > Date: Friday, October 23, 2009, 5:09 PM > > > > I listened to most of that tape, because every time it got repetetive, > > he'd do something kind of interesting. There really could be > > something there if A) He'd record it properly and B) He'd edit it down > > to the best bits arranged artfully. > > > > I'm not complaining about it being recorded to cassette -- that is a > > valid artistic choice. But it sounds like he recorded it with a > > boombox using the built-in mini-microphone. It is obvious from the > > quality of the music that he knows how to do a better job than he's > > doing, which, like most things about this dude, is pretty frustrating. > > > > On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 11:28 AM, Jared Dunne <22tape@...<http://mc/compose?to=22tape@...>> > wrote: > > > listened to the track. and some of the others he posted. this has > > nothing > > > to do with his personality-- his music doesn't click with me. but i'm > > just > > > like every other asshole with an opinion. i'm sure someone might enjoy > > > these. > > > > > > now...off to do more KLX inspired calisthenics.. > > > > > > On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 10:08 AM, Clint Anderson <clinta@...<http://mc/compose?to=clinta@...> > > > > wrote: > > > > > >> i dont judge a persons music by their personality, if i did, i would > > have > > >> to > > >> throw away every cd i own i think > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@...<http://mc/compose?to=idm-unsubscribe@...> > > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@...<http://mc/compose?to=idm-help@...> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > |
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Re: undated tape - side a
by 22tape
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agreed.
much of the bad idm has been where some dude found a cool max/msp patch, threw a drum loop into it and called it a composition. it might be different had that person created the patch...then again, if its about the music in the end, does it matter that he created the patch if the results are going to be the same music-- a randomly stuttering drum loop? or is the process just as important? i think process is important in an academic/understanding sense, but if you can't use the process to make better music, then whats the point? On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 2:12 PM, Clint Anderson <clinta@...> wrote: > having that said that i do notice the same thing in alot of music where im > thinking, this would be great if you would just kill that one sound in the > background, or this was great for like 16 bars now you need to stop doing > it,etc > > Clint Anderson > System Administrator > > > > On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 3:09 PM, Benjamin McCook <ben_mccook@... > >wrote: > > > I believe it! I shouldn't have made that over generalization, but I do > get > > aggravated listening to IDM sometimes for the reason I mentioned. It > might > > be due in part to my impatience :) > > > > --- On *Fri, 10/23/09, Clint Anderson <clinta@...>* wrote: > > > > > > From: Clint Anderson <clinta@...> > > Subject: Re: [idm] undated tape - side a > > To: "Benjamin McCook" <ben_mccook@...> > > Cc: idm@... > > Date: Friday, October 23, 2009, 7:54 PM > > > > > > probably more time is spent on my tracks re-listening to them and editing > > out elements that run too long, bad transitions between parts, or boring > > bits that need something injected into them... > > > > Clint Anderson > > System Administrator > > > > > > > > On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 2:38 PM, Benjamin McCook <ben_mccook@...< > http://mc/compose?to=ben_mccook@...> > > >wrote: > > > > > > > > i agree with Kent. I think people get too enamored with their > "darlings" > > > and think whatever he or she has is so intensely interesting that he or > > she > > > inundates the listener with it forever. > > > I think the thing about the types of sounds and methods that are used > in > > > IDM are interesting, but with the amount of repetition they are > stretched > > > out with to take up play time, they become so boring. > > > There are parts of the tape that are skillful, but they need to be > > whittled > > > out. I think over forty minutes for just that is a little obscene. Most > > of > > > the stuff can be pared down and could make a few three of four minute > > songs. > > > > > > Editing is what sets IDM apart, but few of the musicians seem to use > it. > > > --- On Fri, 10/23/09, kent williams <chaircrusher@...< > http://mc/compose?to=chaircrusher@...>> > > wrote: > > > > > > From: kent williams <chaircrusher@...< > http://mc/compose?to=chaircrusher@...> > > > > > > Subject: Re: [idm] undated tape - side a > > > To: "do id" <idm@... <http://mc/compose?to=idm@... > >> > > > Date: Friday, October 23, 2009, 5:09 PM > > > > > > I listened to most of that tape, because every time it got repetetive, > > > he'd do something kind of interesting. There really could be > > > something there if A) He'd record it properly and B) He'd edit it down > > > to the best bits arranged artfully. > > > > > > I'm not complaining about it being recorded to cassette -- that is a > > > valid artistic choice. But it sounds like he recorded it with a > > > boombox using the built-in mini-microphone. It is obvious from the > > > quality of the music that he knows how to do a better job than he's > > > doing, which, like most things about this dude, is pretty frustrating. > > > > > > On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 11:28 AM, Jared Dunne <22tape@...< > http://mc/compose?to=22tape@...>> > > wrote: > > > > listened to the track. and some of the others he posted. this has > > > nothing > > > > to do with his personality-- his music doesn't click with me. but > i'm > > > just > > > > like every other asshole with an opinion. i'm sure someone might > enjoy > > > > these. > > > > > > > > now...off to do more KLX inspired calisthenics.. > > > > > > > > On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 10:08 AM, Clint Anderson <clinta@...< > http://mc/compose?to=clinta@...> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > >> i dont judge a persons music by their personality, if i did, i would > > > have > > > >> to > > > >> throw away every cd i own i think > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@...< > http://mc/compose?to=idm-unsubscribe@...> > > > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@...< > http://mc/compose?to=idm-help@...> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- Jared Dunne http://www.myspace.com/22tape http://www.22tape.blogspot.com |
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