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	underscore syntax by Jeff Bauer :: Rate this Message: Reply to Author \| View Threaded \| Show Only this Message Did the behavior python-mode change with respect to the syntax of vars_with_underscores? Keying M-f or M-b now stops the cursor at the underscores rather than grabbing the entire variable. Prior, in GNU Emacs 21.4, the behavior worked as I expected. -- Jeff Bauer _______________________________________________ Python-mode mailing list Python-mode@... http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-mode
	Re: underscore syntax by Barry Warsaw :: Rate this Message: Reply to Author \| View Threaded \| Show Only this Message -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Nov 28, 2008, at 9:51 PM, Jeff Bauer wrote: > Did the behavior python-mode change with respect to the > syntax of vars_with_underscores? Keying M-f or M-b > now stops the cursor at the underscores rather than > grabbing the entire variable. Prior, in GNU Emacs 21.4, > the behavior worked as I expected. AFAIK, python-mode.el has stopped at underscores since the beginning of time. It's possible that you were using python.el before, which maybe had a different behavior. - -Barry -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (Darwin) iQCVAwUBSTFdeHEjvBPtnXfVAQLO8wQAtiMAkw/q4XHRICCeX/IZUvScrXA56LTB cAGqySSxTlaL/g11Vz3hqrGFDAs7mZEOv7QvE5ABnSs7RRt+DP3SMzwqQFt75Mht LxBmh77CG9DR0qfvhh9eh5vSH3YdSYAJTHI/LRM25qT4YygGJj5p30xCtt8ATzTN ++EKezfJrts= =Q9pA -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ Python-mode mailing list Python-mode@... http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-mode
	Re: underscore syntax by Diez B. Roggisch :: Rate this Message: Reply to Author \| View Threaded \| Show Only this Message Jeff Bauer schrieb: > Did the behavior python-mode change with respect to the > syntax of vars_with_underscores? Keying M-f or M-b > now stops the cursor at the underscores rather than > grabbing the entire variable. Prior, in GNU Emacs 21.4, > the behavior worked as I expected. I don't think that's a python-mode issue - rather emacs behaves differently. Dunno how to change that though. My emacs doesn't stop at underscores. Regardless of python-mode-age. Diez _______________________________________________ Python-mode mailing list Python-mode@... http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-mode
	Re: underscore syntax by Jeff Bauer :: Rate this Message: Reply to Author \| View Threaded \| Show Only this Message Diez B. Roggisch wrote: > Jeff Bauer schrieb: >> Did the behavior python-mode change with respect to the >> syntax of vars_with_underscores? Keying M-f or M-b >> now stops the cursor at the underscores rather than >> grabbing the entire variable. Prior, in GNU Emacs 21.4, >> the behavior worked as I expected. > > I don't think that's a python-mode issue - rather emacs behaves > differently. Dunno how to change that though. > > My emacs doesn't stop at underscores. Regardless of python-mode-age. I was running the standard python-mode that ships with Ubuntu 8.10 when I noticed it stopped at underscores. Downloading the recently announced python-mode.el 5.0.0 from LaunchPad (Thanks, Barry!) fixed this behavior, though I'm sure it had more to do with switching away from whatever python-mode is being shipped in the current Ubuntu. All is now sweetness and light. -Jeff _______________________________________________ Python-mode mailing list Python-mode@... http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-mode
	Re: underscore syntax by Barry Warsaw :: Rate this Message: Reply to Author \| View Threaded \| Show Only this Message -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Nov 29, 2008, at 12:51 PM, Jeff Bauer wrote: > Diez B. Roggisch wrote: >> Jeff Bauer schrieb: >>> Did the behavior python-mode change with respect to the >>> syntax of vars_with_underscores? Keying M-f or M-b >>> now stops the cursor at the underscores rather than >>> grabbing the entire variable. Prior, in GNU Emacs 21.4, >>> the behavior worked as I expected. >> I don't think that's a python-mode issue - rather emacs behaves >> differently. Dunno how to change that though. >> My emacs doesn't stop at underscores. Regardless of python-mode-age. > > I was running the standard python-mode that ships with Ubuntu 8.10 > when I noticed it stopped at underscores. I bet that's python.el (i.e. the one that comes with FSF Emacs). > Downloading the recently > announced python-mode.el 5.0.0 from LaunchPad (Thanks, Barry!) fixed > this behavior, though I'm sure it had more to do with switching > away from whatever python-mode is being shipped in the current > Ubuntu. > > All is now sweetness and light. Great. I realize that I bind M-f and M-b to py-(forward\|backward)- into-nomenclature which does stop at underscores. I've been using that for a bazillion years so I'm used to (and like) that behavior. - -Barry -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (Darwin) iQCVAwUBSTGMHXEjvBPtnXfVAQIvUwQAnO6p2akzlSQujktwkE2zFuw57nLa3SVd BWSzSTAHAZcA2UvySIOUGbO4s7SbLFOGitFdER5S2Le+o3j5JH03MngqYHINMnfF uj3iz4fXolrbFRFuL0Zf9yKpe5ezKgIXONMxWo0iISJiSR3p+2emkquURVEOTGf/ 6l8+J4vsnLk= =A53Z -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ Python-mode mailing list Python-mode@... http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-mode
	Re: underscore syntax by smontanaro :: Rate this Message: Reply to Author \| View Threaded \| Show Only this Message Diez> I don't think that's a python-mode issue - rather emacs behaves Diez> differently. Dunno how to change that though. Diez> My emacs doesn't stop at underscores. Regardless of Diez> python-mode-age. >From a comment in python-mode.el: ;; For historical reasons, underscore is word class instead of ;; symbol class. GNU conventions say it should be symbol class, but ;; there's a natural conflict between what major mode authors want ;; and what users expect from `forward-word' and `backward-word'. ;; Guido and I have hashed this out and have decided to keep ;; underscore in word class. If you're tempted to change it, try ;; binding M-f and M-b to py-forward-into-nomenclature and ;; py-backward-into-nomenclature instead. This doesn't help in all ;; situations where you'd want the different behavior ;; (e.g. backward-kill-word). I don't know if the "I" referenced here is Barry or Tim. Skip _______________________________________________ Python-mode mailing list Python-mode@... http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-mode
	Re: underscore syntax by Barry Warsaw :: Rate this Message: Reply to Author \| View Threaded \| Show Only this Message -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Nov 29, 2008, at 2:10 PM, skip@... wrote: >> From a comment in python-mode.el: > > ;; For historical reasons, underscore is word class instead of > ;; symbol class. GNU conventions say it should be symbol class, but > ;; there's a natural conflict between what major mode authors want > ;; and what users expect from `forward-word' and `backward-word'. > ;; Guido and I have hashed this out and have decided to keep > ;; underscore in word class. If you're tempted to change it, try > ;; binding M-f and M-b to py-forward-into-nomenclature and > ;; py-backward-into-nomenclature instead. This doesn't help in all > ;; situations where you'd want the different behavior > ;; (e.g. backward-kill-word). > > I don't know if the "I" referenced here is Barry or Tim. Ah yes, that was me. - -B -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (Darwin) iQCVAwUBSTGUz3EjvBPtnXfVAQKnewQAgTU8BiS1KyFXO6s17TvIZN0WG8brNsfd mANyLg/Bq8B+HxsFRmIxL1bTNTze5NCiPgmDCkzOn9CCdQMJTimMZrmcS3D9twG1 lnZu+u+h9Y/NkbtVzJHF/hvQsAd74DZoYNSKdtEJIcOm+y9699nPOG5HbD9PKvaD j9P5tivnCkY= =HuoU -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ Python-mode mailing list Python-mode@... http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-mode