upgrading and keeping kde3

[bascule-2]

i still read on the notes for 2009.1 that doing a mdkonline upgrade from
2009.0 with kde3 installed will lead to having kde3 installed in 2009.1 and
not kde4, but after 4 goes with virtual installations of 2009.0 i can't get a
2009.1 that isn't a horrible kde4, even though i saw the mdkonline dialogue
fetch kde3-5-10 packages,

what gives, i have a v. nice 2008.1 setup, i want to keep it, the way it is, i
figured i'd up to 2009.0 then to 2009.1 but if the latter won't work then
there'd be no point,

has anyone actually upped from 2008.1 to any version and kept kde3 and avoided
kde4?

bascule
--
"...prepare the voodoo, flaming cannonball!" - Le Chuck

[Renaud (Ron) Olgiati]

On Monday 03 August 2009, my mailbox was graced by a missive
 from bascule <asura@...> who wrote:

> has anyone actually upped from 2008.1 to any version and kept kde3 and
> avoided kde4?

I have just _installed_ 2009.1, with KDE 3.5; I used the crafty dodge of
installing without either KDe or Gnome (I think I used LDXE or a similar
name) and once up and running I installed task-kde3, and all the K progs I
needed, then went over the install removing all the un-necessary chaff that
had been installed behind my back (Query: why does an install in Spanish find
it necessary to install the UK-English dictionaries for Open Office ?).

Only remains to install KDM for logging in, and I'll be ready to clone the
install on twelve boxes.
 
Cheers,
 
Ron, on the banks of the Paraguay River.
--
                       No discipline is ever requisite
                      to force attendance upon lectures
                    which are really worth the attending.
                                            -- Adam Smith
                                   
                   -- http://www.olgiati-in-paraguay.org --

[Jim Beard-3]

bascule wrote:

> i still read on the notes for 2009.1 that doing a mdkonline upgrade from
> 2009.0 with kde3 installed will lead to having kde3 installed in 2009.1 and
> not kde4, but after 4 goes with virtual installations of 2009.0 i can't get a
> 2009.1 that isn't a horrible kde4, even though i saw the mdkonline dialogue
> fetch kde3-5-10 packages,
>
> what gives, i have a v. nice 2008.1 setup, i want to keep it, the way it is, i
> figured i'd up to 2009.0 then to 2009.1 but if the latter won't work then
> there'd be no point,
>
> has anyone actually upped from 2008.1 to any version and kept kde3 and avoided
> kde4?

If you had KDE3 on your machine and upgraded, rather than a clean
install, you get both KDE3 and KDE4.  startx starts up KDE4 and
startx KDE starts up KDE3, IIRC.  Or so it went for me.

Cheers!

jim b.

--
UNIX is not user unfriendly; it merely
      expects users to be computer-friendly.

[bascule-2]

On Tuesday 04 August 2009 01:56:17 Jim Beard wrote:
> If you had KDE3 on your machine and upgraded, rather than a clean
> install, you get both KDE3 and KDE4.  startx starts up KDE4 and
> startx KDE starts up KDE3, IIRC.  Or so it went for me.

well thats the problem, i used mdkonline to upgrade 2009.0 which only had kde3
on and got 2009.1 with only kde4 on, i've been trying a network install to
upgrade but out of about 1000 packages the upgrade wants to install about 400
or so fail due to errors regarding libkdecore4-x.y.z being required by
kdelibs-common-x.y.z, well duh! i'm going to practice upping 2008.1 to
2009.0, if that works i'll skip 2009.1 and wait till 2009.0 eols

bascule

--
"Something's rotten in the state of denmark, and Hamlet's taking out the
trash!"

[Jim Beard-3]

bascule wrote:

> On Tuesday 04 August 2009 01:56:17 Jim Beard wrote:
>> If you had KDE3 on your machine and upgraded, rather than a clean
>> install, you get both KDE3 and KDE4.  startx starts up KDE4 and
>> startx KDE starts up KDE3, IIRC.  Or so it went for me.
>
> well thats the problem, i used mdkonline to upgrade 2009.0 which only had kde3
> on and got 2009.1 with only kde4 on, i've been trying a network install to
> upgrade but out of about 1000 packages the upgrade wants to install about 400
> or so fail due to errors regarding libkdecore4-x.y.z being required by
> kdelibs-common-x.y.z, well duh! i'm going to practice upping 2008.1 to
> 2009.0, if that works i'll skip 2009.1 and wait till 2009.0 eols

You can install task-kde3, which will install kde3.5 for you. You
will still have kde4 on the system, though.

Cheers!


--
UNIX is not user unfriendly; it merely
      expects users to be computer-friendly.

[Michael Adams-2]

On Mon, 03 Aug 2009 17:50:54 -0400
Came this utterance formulated by Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI to my mailbox:

> Query: why does an install in Spanish find it necessary to install the
> UK-English dictionaries for Open Office?
>

The default English install also installs several other languages
by default, English French & Spanish dictionaries are definitely
included. Common practise in this multilingual world ;)

http://user.services.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=74&t=16512
http://user.services.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?p=362#p362

--
Michael

All shall be well, and all shall be well, and all manner of things shall
be well

 - Julian of Norwich 1342 - 1416