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v11 updateHi all,
Just to give you an update on my progress with the v11 version... Two years ago I sustained a physical injury to my large intestine. It did not require surgery, but I ended up in the hospital twice because of complications related to the injury. The nature of the injury is such that it is very slow to heal. I suffered immensely for a year and a half, and it is only in the last six months that my health was getting back to normal, although I still have severe limitations on the kind and amount of exercise I can do. This injury is one reason for me getting started so late with the v11 version of Active4D. Anyway, I had been slowly improving over the past few months and was feeling quite strong up until a week and a half ago, when I walked too far and the injury flared up. Since then I have been quite sick and unable to get much of anything done. I am just starting to feel better now, but I anticipate another week or two before I am back to where I was before this relapse. Today is the first day I feel strong enough to do serious programming. For all of you who have been suffering without a v11 version of Active4D, I will gladly trade your suffering for mine! Please be assured that I take my commitment to the v11 version seriously and am doing my best. Unfortunately I am only human and there is only one of me to do the work. So I must humbly beg for your forgiveness and patience. Regards, Aparajita www.aparajitaworld.com "If you dare to fail, you are bound to succeed." - Sri Chinmoy | www.srichinmoy.org _______________________________________________ Active4D-dev mailing list Active4D-dev@... http://mailman.aparajitaworld.com/mailman/listinfo/active4d-dev Archives: http://mailman.aparajitaworld.com/archive/active4d-dev/ |
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Re: v11 updateWow. Take your time. As long as 4D has problems, no one wants to switch.
Wish you all the best! Am 12.03.2009 um 16:34 schrieb Aparajita Fishman: > Hi all, > > Just to give you an update on my progress with the v11 version... > > Two years ago I sustained a physical injury to my large intestine. > It did not require surgery, but I ended up in the hospital twice > because of complications related to the injury. The nature of the > injury is such that it is very slow to heal. I suffered immensely > for a year and a half, and it is only in the last six months that my > health was getting back to normal, although I still have severe > limitations on the kind and amount of exercise I can do. This injury > is one reason for me getting started so late with the v11 version of > Active4D. > > Anyway, I had been slowly improving over the past few months and was > feeling quite strong up until a week and a half ago, when I walked > too far and the injury flared up. Since then I have been quite sick > and unable to get much of anything done. I am just starting to feel > better now, but I anticipate another week or two before I am back to > where I was before this relapse. Today is the first day I feel > strong enough to do serious programming. > > For all of you who have been suffering without a v11 version of > Active4D, I will gladly trade your suffering for mine! Please be > assured that I take my commitment to the v11 version seriously and > am doing my best. Unfortunately I am only human and there is only > one of me to do the work. So I must humbly beg for your forgiveness > and patience. > > Regards, > > Aparajita > www.aparajitaworld.com > > "If you dare to fail, you are bound to succeed." > - Sri Chinmoy | www.srichinmoy.org > > > _______________________________________________ > Active4D-dev mailing list > Active4D-dev@... > http://mailman.aparajitaworld.com/mailman/listinfo/active4d-dev > Archives: http://mailman.aparajitaworld.com/archive/active4d-dev/ Mit freundlichen Grüßen [4D-Consulting.com]eK, Wiesbaden Peter Schumacher -------------------------------------------------------- Web: http://www.4D-Consulting.com/ FreeCall: 0800-434 636 7 Tel.: 0611-9406.850 - Fax: 0611-9406.744 iChat/Skype: PeterInWiesbaden 4D-Consulting.com eK - Scharnhorststr. 36 - 65195 Wiesbaden HR Wiesbaden: HRA 4867 Mitglied im Entwicklernetzwerk http://www.die4dwerkstatt.de _______________________________________________ Active4D-dev mailing list Active4D-dev@... http://mailman.aparajitaworld.com/mailman/listinfo/active4d-dev Archives: http://mailman.aparajitaworld.com/archive/active4d-dev/ |
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Re: v11 updateThank you for your openness. It is with all sincerity that I send
wishes for your complete recovery and restoration to health. I have written a lot of A4D code in recent months and am continually impressed with the intelligence of its design and implementation. We will all benefit if you take time to heal properly and return to full strength. Thanks again for your efforts and open communication. String Hamister Interface Artistry On Mar 12, 2009, at 8:34 AM, Aparajita Fishman wrote: > Hi all, > > Just to give you an update on my progress with the v11 version... > > Two years ago I sustained a physical injury to my large intestine. > It did not require surgery, but I ended up in the hospital twice > because of complications related to the injury. The nature of the > injury is such that it is very slow to heal. I suffered immensely > for a year and a half, and it is only in the last six months that my > health was getting back to normal, although I still have severe > limitations on the kind and amount of exercise I can do. This injury > is one reason for me getting started so late with the v11 version of > Active4D. > > Anyway, I had been slowly improving over the past few months and was > feeling quite strong up until a week and a half ago, when I walked > too far and the injury flared up. Since then I have been quite sick > and unable to get much of anything done. I am just starting to feel > better now, but I anticipate another week or two before I am back to > where I was before this relapse. Today is the first day I feel > strong enough to do serious programming. > > For all of you who have been suffering without a v11 version of > Active4D, I will gladly trade your suffering for mine! Please be > assured that I take my commitment to the v11 version seriously and > am doing my best. Unfortunately I am only human and there is only > one of me to do the work. So I must humbly beg for your forgiveness > and patience. > > Regards, > > Aparajita > www.aparajitaworld.com > > "If you dare to fail, you are bound to succeed." > - Sri Chinmoy | www.srichinmoy.org > > > _______________________________________________ > Active4D-dev mailing list > Active4D-dev@... > http://mailman.aparajitaworld.com/mailman/listinfo/active4d-dev > Archives: http://mailman.aparajitaworld.com/archive/active4d-dev/ _______________________________________________ Active4D-dev mailing list Active4D-dev@... http://mailman.aparajitaworld.com/mailman/listinfo/active4d-dev Archives: http://mailman.aparajitaworld.com/archive/active4d-dev/ |
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Re: v11 update> Wow. Take your time. As long as 4D has problems, no one wants to switch. But some of us don't mind playing with the bits and pieces.. but do ask for help if you need it... sincerely, mehboob alam Electricity is actually made up of extremely tiny particles called electrons, that you cannot see with the naked eye unless you have been drinking. - Dave Barry --- On Thu, 3/12/09, Peter Schumacher <plist@...> wrote: > From: Peter Schumacher <plist@...> > Subject: Re: [Active4d-dev] v11 update > To: active4d-dev@... > Date: Thursday, March 12, 2009, 12:44 PM > Wow. Take your time. As long as 4D has problems, no one > wants to switch. > > Wish you all the best! > _______________________________________________ Active4D-dev mailing list Active4D-dev@... http://mailman.aparajitaworld.com/mailman/listinfo/active4d-dev Archives: http://mailman.aparajitaworld.com/archive/active4d-dev/ |
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Re: v11 updateAparajita,
Thanks for your commitment and a great product. May your recovery be swift and complete. David -----Original Message----- From: active4d-dev-bounces@... [mailto:active4d-dev-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Aparajita Fishman Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 10:35 AM To: active4d-dev@... Subject: [Active4d-dev] v11 update Hi all, Just to give you an update on my progress with the v11 version... ... So I must humbly beg for your forgiveness and patience. Regards, Aparajita www.aparajitaworld.com "If you dare to fail, you are bound to succeed." - Sri Chinmoy | www.srichinmoy.org _______________________________________________ Active4D-dev mailing list Active4D-dev@... http://mailman.aparajitaworld.com/mailman/listinfo/active4d-dev Archives: http://mailman.aparajitaworld.com/archive/active4d-dev/ _______________________________________________ Active4D-dev mailing list Active4D-dev@... http://mailman.aparajitaworld.com/mailman/listinfo/active4d-dev Archives: http://mailman.aparajitaworld.com/archive/active4d-dev/ |
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Re: v11 updateMy thoughts are with you, and "gute Besserung"
Cheers Alex > Hi all, > > Just to give you an update on my progress with the v11 version... > > Two years ago I sustained a physical injury to my large intestine. > It did not require surgery, but I ended up in the hospital twice > because of complications related to the injury. The nature of the > injury is such that it is very slow to heal. I suffered immensely > for a year and a half, and it is only in the last six months that my > health was getting back to normal, although I still have severe > limitations on the kind and amount of exercise I can do. This injury > is one reason for me getting started so late with the v11 version of > Active4D. > > Anyway, I had been slowly improving over the past few months and was > feeling quite strong up until a week and a half ago, when I walked > too far and the injury flared up. Since then I have been quite sick > and unable to get much of anything done. I am just starting to feel > better now, but I anticipate another week or two before I am back to > where I was before this relapse. Today is the first day I feel > strong enough to do serious programming. > > For all of you who have been suffering without a v11 version of > Active4D, I will gladly trade your suffering for mine! Please be > assured that I take my commitment to the v11 version seriously and > am doing my best. Unfortunately I am only human and there is only > one of me to do the work. So I must humbly beg for your forgiveness > and patience. > > Regards, > > Aparajita > www.aparajitaworld.com > > "If you dare to fail, you are bound to succeed." > - Sri Chinmoy | www.srichinmoy.org > > > _______________________________________________ > Active4D-dev mailing list > Active4D-dev@... > http://mailman.aparajitaworld.com/mailman/listinfo/active4d-dev > Archives: http://mailman.aparajitaworld.com/archive/active4d-dev/ _______________________________________________ Active4D-dev mailing list Active4D-dev@... http://mailman.aparajitaworld.com/mailman/listinfo/active4d-dev Archives: http://mailman.aparajitaworld.com/archive/active4d-dev/ |
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Re: v11 updateAlexander,
> My thoughts are with you, and "gute Besserung" Vielen Dank! Regards, Aparajita www.aparajitaworld.com "If you dare to fail, you are bound to succeed." - Sri Chinmoy | www.srichinmoy.org _______________________________________________ Active4D-dev mailing list Active4D-dev@... http://mailman.aparajitaworld.com/mailman/listinfo/active4d-dev Archives: http://mailman.aparajitaworld.com/archive/active4d-dev/ |
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Re: v11 updateYes, do get better Aparajita.
Peter, I was wondering about your statement about 4D and problems. Though we haven't switched to 11 for our clients as of yet, I like to be 'in the know'. Is there something specific you're referring to? I've followed the NUG as best I can, but I would be interested to read some of the larger issues that your msg seems to imply... Thanks! Michael Check On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 11:44 AM, Peter Schumacher <plist@...> wrote: > Wow. Take your time. As long as 4D has problems, no one wants to switch. > > Wish you all the best! > > Am 12.03.2009 um 16:34 schrieb Aparajita Fishman: > >> Hi all, >> >> Just to give you an update on my progress with the v11 version... >> >> Two years ago I sustained a physical injury to my large intestine. It did >> not require surgery, but I ended up in the hospital twice because of >> complications related to the injury. The nature of the injury is such that >> it is very slow to heal. I suffered immensely for a year and a half, and it >> is only in the last six months that my health was getting back to normal, >> although I still have severe limitations on the kind and amount of exercise >> I can do. This injury is one reason for me getting started so late with the >> v11 version of Active4D. >> >> Anyway, I had been slowly improving over the past few months and was >> feeling quite strong up until a week and a half ago, when I walked too far >> and the injury flared up. Since then I have been quite sick and unable to >> get much of anything done. I am just starting to feel better now, but I >> anticipate another week or two before I am back to where I was before this >> relapse. Today is the first day I feel strong enough to do serious >> programming. >> >> For all of you who have been suffering without a v11 version of Active4D, >> I will gladly trade your suffering for mine! Please be assured that I take >> my commitment to the v11 version seriously and am doing my best. >> Unfortunately I am only human and there is only one of me to do the work. So >> I must humbly beg for your forgiveness and patience. >> >> Regards, >> >> Aparajita >> www.aparajitaworld.com >> >> "If you dare to fail, you are bound to succeed." >> - Sri Chinmoy | www.srichinmoy.org >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Active4D-dev mailing list >> Active4D-dev@... >> http://mailman.aparajitaworld.com/mailman/listinfo/active4d-dev >> Archives: http://mailman.aparajitaworld.com/archive/active4d-dev/ > > Mit freundlichen Grüßen > [4D-Consulting.com]eK, Wiesbaden > Peter Schumacher > -------------------------------------------------------- > Web: http://www.4D-Consulting.com/ > FreeCall: 0800-434 636 7 > Tel.: 0611-9406.850 - Fax: 0611-9406.744 > iChat/Skype: PeterInWiesbaden > 4D-Consulting.com eK - Scharnhorststr. 36 - 65195 Wiesbaden > HR Wiesbaden: HRA 4867 > Mitglied im Entwicklernetzwerk http://www.die4dwerkstatt.de > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Active4D-dev mailing list > Active4D-dev@... > http://mailman.aparajitaworld.com/mailman/listinfo/active4d-dev > Archives: http://mailman.aparajitaworld.com/archive/active4d-dev/ > -- Thanks, Michael Check _______________________________________________ Active4D-dev mailing list Active4D-dev@... http://mailman.aparajitaworld.com/mailman/listinfo/active4d-dev Archives: http://mailman.aparajitaworld.com/archive/active4d-dev/ |
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Re: v11 updateMichael,
1. have a structure with 256 tables -> crash (add 1 more table to fix it) 2. have a quick report with a picture, add a line: vpict:=pict*0.24 -> crash 3. C/S and POP RECORD -> crash and more. I'm just waiting for for 11.4b2 beside this, testing is getting harder. You can't get an unlimited web server for your developer edition, 4D thinks, 1 external and 1 internal ip is enough, maybe they never thought about load testing Am 19.03.2009 um 16:22 schrieb Michael Check: > Yes, do get better Aparajita. > > Peter, I was wondering about your statement about 4D and problems. > Though we haven't switched to 11 for our clients as of yet, I like to > be 'in the know'. Is there something specific you're referring to? > I've followed the NUG as best I can, but I would be interested to read > some of the larger issues that your msg seems to imply... > > Thanks! > Michael Check > > On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 11:44 AM, Peter Schumacher > <plist@...> wrote: >> Wow. Take your time. As long as 4D has problems, no one wants to >> switch. >> >> Wish you all the best! >> >> Am 12.03.2009 um 16:34 schrieb Aparajita Fishman: >> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> Just to give you an update on my progress with the v11 version... >>> >>> Two years ago I sustained a physical injury to my large intestine. >>> It did >>> not require surgery, but I ended up in the hospital twice because of >>> complications related to the injury. The nature of the injury is >>> such that >>> it is very slow to heal. I suffered immensely for a year and a >>> half, and it >>> is only in the last six months that my health was getting back to >>> normal, >>> although I still have severe limitations on the kind and amount of >>> exercise >>> I can do. This injury is one reason for me getting started so late >>> with the >>> v11 version of Active4D. >>> >>> Anyway, I had been slowly improving over the past few months and was >>> feeling quite strong up until a week and a half ago, when I walked >>> too far >>> and the injury flared up. Since then I have been quite sick and >>> unable to >>> get much of anything done. I am just starting to feel better now, >>> but I >>> anticipate another week or two before I am back to where I was >>> before this >>> relapse. Today is the first day I feel strong enough to do serious >>> programming. >>> >>> For all of you who have been suffering without a v11 version of >>> Active4D, >>> I will gladly trade your suffering for mine! Please be assured >>> that I take >>> my commitment to the v11 version seriously and am doing my best. >>> Unfortunately I am only human and there is only one of me to do >>> the work. So >>> I must humbly beg for your forgiveness and patience. >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Aparajita >>> www.aparajitaworld.com >>> >>> "If you dare to fail, you are bound to succeed." >>> - Sri Chinmoy | www.srichinmoy.org >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Active4D-dev mailing list >>> Active4D-dev@... >>> http://mailman.aparajitaworld.com/mailman/listinfo/active4d-dev >>> Archives: http://mailman.aparajitaworld.com/archive/active4d-dev/ >> >> Mit freundlichen Grüßen >> [4D-Consulting.com]eK, Wiesbaden >> Peter Schumacher >> -------------------------------------------------------- >> Web: http://www.4D-Consulting.com/ >> FreeCall: 0800-434 636 7 >> Tel.: 0611-9406.850 - Fax: 0611-9406.744 >> iChat/Skype: PeterInWiesbaden >> 4D-Consulting.com eK - Scharnhorststr. 36 - 65195 Wiesbaden >> HR Wiesbaden: HRA 4867 >> Mitglied im Entwicklernetzwerk http://www.die4dwerkstatt.de >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Active4D-dev mailing list >> Active4D-dev@... >> http://mailman.aparajitaworld.com/mailman/listinfo/active4d-dev >> Archives: http://mailman.aparajitaworld.com/archive/active4d-dev/ >> > > > > -- > Thanks, > > Michael Check > _______________________________________________ > Active4D-dev mailing list > Active4D-dev@... > http://mailman.aparajitaworld.com/mailman/listinfo/active4d-dev > Archives: http://mailman.aparajitaworld.com/archive/active4d-dev/ Mit freundlichen Grüßen [4D-Consulting.com]eK, Wiesbaden Peter Schumacher -------------------------------------------------------- Web: http://www.4D-Consulting.com/ FreeCall: 0800-434 636 7 Tel.: 0611-9406.850 - Fax: 0611-9406.744 iChat/Skype: PeterInWiesbaden 4D-Consulting.com eK - Scharnhorststr. 36 - 65195 Wiesbaden HR Wiesbaden: HRA 4867 Mitglied im Entwicklernetzwerk http://www.die4dwerkstatt.de _______________________________________________ Active4D-dev mailing list Active4D-dev@... http://mailman.aparajitaworld.com/mailman/listinfo/active4d-dev Archives: http://mailman.aparajitaworld.com/archive/active4d-dev/ |
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Re: v11 updateThanks. We don't have any structures with that many tables, only
about half. I'm sure we'll have many issues when we do try to upgrade... :) Michael Check On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 10:50 AM, Peter Schumacher <plist@...> wrote: > Michael, > > 1. have a structure with 256 tables -> crash (add 1 more table to fix it) > 2. have a quick report with a picture, add a line: vpict:=pict*0.24 -> crash > 3. C/S and POP RECORD -> crash > > and more. I'm just waiting for for 11.4b2 > > beside this, testing is getting harder. You can't get an unlimited web > server for your developer edition, 4D thinks, 1 external and 1 internal ip > is enough, maybe they never thought about load testing > > > Am 19.03.2009 um 16:22 schrieb Michael Check: > >> Yes, do get better Aparajita. >> >> Peter, I was wondering about your statement about 4D and problems. >> Though we haven't switched to 11 for our clients as of yet, I like to >> be 'in the know'. Is there something specific you're referring to? >> I've followed the NUG as best I can, but I would be interested to read >> some of the larger issues that your msg seems to imply... >> >> Thanks! >> Michael Check >> >> On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 11:44 AM, Peter Schumacher >> <plist@...> wrote: >>> >>> Wow. Take your time. As long as 4D has problems, no one wants to switch. >>> >>> Wish you all the best! >>> >>> Am 12.03.2009 um 16:34 schrieb Aparajita Fishman: >>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> Just to give you an update on my progress with the v11 version... >>>> >>>> Two years ago I sustained a physical injury to my large intestine. It >>>> did >>>> not require surgery, but I ended up in the hospital twice because of >>>> complications related to the injury. The nature of the injury is such >>>> that >>>> it is very slow to heal. I suffered immensely for a year and a half, and >>>> it >>>> is only in the last six months that my health was getting back to >>>> normal, >>>> although I still have severe limitations on the kind and amount of >>>> exercise >>>> I can do. This injury is one reason for me getting started so late with >>>> the >>>> v11 version of Active4D. >>>> >>>> Anyway, I had been slowly improving over the past few months and was >>>> feeling quite strong up until a week and a half ago, when I walked too >>>> far >>>> and the injury flared up. Since then I have been quite sick and unable >>>> to >>>> get much of anything done. I am just starting to feel better now, but I >>>> anticipate another week or two before I am back to where I was before >>>> this >>>> relapse. Today is the first day I feel strong enough to do serious >>>> programming. >>>> >>>> For all of you who have been suffering without a v11 version of >>>> Active4D, >>>> I will gladly trade your suffering for mine! Please be assured that I >>>> take >>>> my commitment to the v11 version seriously and am doing my best. >>>> Unfortunately I am only human and there is only one of me to do the >>>> work. So >>>> I must humbly beg for your forgiveness and patience. >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> >>>> Aparajita >>>> www.aparajitaworld.com >>>> >>>> "If you dare to fail, you are bound to succeed." >>>> - Sri Chinmoy | www.srichinmoy.org >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Active4D-dev mailing list >>>> Active4D-dev@... >>>> http://mailman.aparajitaworld.com/mailman/listinfo/active4d-dev >>>> Archives: http://mailman.aparajitaworld.com/archive/active4d-dev/ >>> >>> Mit freundlichen Grüßen >>> [4D-Consulting.com]eK, Wiesbaden >>> Peter Schumacher >>> -------------------------------------------------------- >>> Web: http://www.4D-Consulting.com/ >>> FreeCall: 0800-434 636 7 >>> Tel.: 0611-9406.850 - Fax: 0611-9406.744 >>> iChat/Skype: PeterInWiesbaden >>> 4D-Consulting.com eK - Scharnhorststr. 36 - 65195 Wiesbaden >>> HR Wiesbaden: HRA 4867 >>> Mitglied im Entwicklernetzwerk http://www.die4dwerkstatt.de >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Active4D-dev mailing list >>> Active4D-dev@... >>> http://mailman.aparajitaworld.com/mailman/listinfo/active4d-dev >>> Archives: http://mailman.aparajitaworld.com/archive/active4d-dev/ >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Thanks, >> >> Michael Check >> _______________________________________________ >> Active4D-dev mailing list >> Active4D-dev@... >> http://mailman.aparajitaworld.com/mailman/listinfo/active4d-dev >> Archives: http://mailman.aparajitaworld.com/archive/active4d-dev/ > > Mit freundlichen Grüßen > [4D-Consulting.com]eK, Wiesbaden > Peter Schumacher > -------------------------------------------------------- > Web: http://www.4D-Consulting.com/ > FreeCall: 0800-434 636 7 > Tel.: 0611-9406.850 - Fax: 0611-9406.744 > iChat/Skype: PeterInWiesbaden > 4D-Consulting.com eK - Scharnhorststr. 36 - 65195 Wiesbaden > HR Wiesbaden: HRA 4867 > Mitglied im Entwicklernetzwerk http://www.die4dwerkstatt.de > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Active4D-dev mailing list > Active4D-dev@... > http://mailman.aparajitaworld.com/mailman/listinfo/active4d-dev > Archives: http://mailman.aparajitaworld.com/archive/active4d-dev/ > -- Thanks, Michael Check _______________________________________________ Active4D-dev mailing list Active4D-dev@... http://mailman.aparajitaworld.com/mailman/listinfo/active4d-dev Archives: http://mailman.aparajitaworld.com/archive/active4d-dev/ |
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Re: v11 updateMehboob,
yes. Just a another product to buy. Did you buy the commercial or the non-commercial version - and can you debug 4D code with this version? Here we have so called "Partner contracts", they include a 4D Developer Edition and a 4D Server. But you can't buy a web server or web serices extensions for this server - and that's a so called "developer version". At least for me, it is hard to understand. Am 19.03.2009 um 22:48 schrieb Mehboob Alam: > >> beside this, testing is getting harder. You can't get an unlimited >> web server for your developer edition, 4D thinks, 1 external and 1 >> internal ip is enough, maybe they never thought about load testing > > Peter, > > I purchased the Web Desktop Client (or whatever it's called) version > for the purpose of testing and load-testing. Do you see any issues > with this strategy. > > sincerely, > mehboob alam Mit freundlichen Grüßen [4D-Consulting.com]eK, Wiesbaden Peter Schumacher -------------------------------------------------------- Web: http://www.4D-Consulting.com/ FreeCall: 0800-434 636 7 Tel.: 0611-9406.850 - Fax: 0611-9406.744 iChat/Skype: PeterInWiesbaden 4D-Consulting.com eK - Scharnhorststr. 36 - 65195 Wiesbaden HR Wiesbaden: HRA 4867 Mitglied im Entwicklernetzwerk http://www.die4dwerkstatt.de _______________________________________________ Active4D-dev mailing list Active4D-dev@... http://mailman.aparajitaworld.com/mailman/listinfo/active4d-dev Archives: http://mailman.aparajitaworld.com/archive/active4d-dev/ |
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