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	virtualization options... by Konstantin K :: Rate this Message: Reply to Author \| View Threaded \| Show Only this Message Hi guys, I'd like a free tool that allows me to run a linux virtual machine on my windows laptop so I can do development on it, ftp and ssh to it, and run various services on it like apache and procmail... I know these tools (apache and procmail) are available for windows, but I need a linux instance on my laptop as a virtual machine.... Any suggestions for this? I went to the VMWare site and couldn't figure out which product I needed - they seem to have 4000 products...Any ideas? thanks, Konstantin _______________________________________________ New York PHP Users Group Community Talk Mailing List http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/talk http://www.nyphp.org/Show-Participation
	Re: virtualization options... by Eddie Drapkin :: Rate this Message: Reply to Author \| View Threaded \| Show Only this Message www.virtualbox.org On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 9:11 PM, Konstantin K <kkrutoi@...> wrote: > Hi guys, > > > I'd like a free tool that allows me to run a linux virtual machine on my > windows laptop so I can do development on it, ftp and ssh to it, and run > various services on it like apache and procmail... > > I know these tools (apache and procmail) are available for windows, but I > need a linux instance on my laptop as a virtual machine.... > > Any suggestions for this? > > I went to the VMWare site and couldn't figure out which product I needed - > they seem to have 4000 products...Any ideas? > > thanks, > Konstantin > _______________________________________________ > New York PHP Users Group Community Talk Mailing List > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/talk > > http://www.nyphp.org/Show-Participation > _______________________________________________ New York PHP Users Group Community Talk Mailing List http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/talk http://www.nyphp.org/Show-Participation
	Re: virtualization options... by Mutaz Musa :: Rate this Message: Reply to Author \| View Threaded \| Show Only this Message Check out VirtualBox, opensource and corporate backed (Sun Microsystems): http://www.virtualbox.org/ On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 9:11 PM, Konstantin K <kkrutoi@...> wrote: Hi guys, I'd like a free tool that allows me to run a linux virtual machine on my windows laptop so I can do development on it, ftp and ssh to it, and run various services on it like apache and procmail... I know these tools (apache and procmail) are available for windows, but I need a linux instance on my laptop as a virtual machine.... Any suggestions for this? I went to the VMWare site and couldn't figure out which product I needed - they seem to have 4000 products...Any ideas? thanks, Konstantin _______________________________________________ New York PHP Users Group Community Talk Mailing List http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/talk http://www.nyphp.org/Show-Participation _______________________________________________ New York PHP Users Group Community Talk Mailing List http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/talk http://www.nyphp.org/Show-Participation
	Re: virtualization options... by Hans Zaunere :: Rate this Message: Reply to Author \| View Threaded \| Show Only this Message Hi, > I'd like a free tool that allows me to run a linux virtual machine on > my windows laptop so I can do development on it, ftp and ssh to it, and > run various services on it like apache and procmail... > > I know these tools (apache and procmail) are available for windows, but > I need a linux instance on my laptop as a virtual machine.... > > Any suggestions for this? > > I went to the VMWare site and couldn't figure out which product I > needed - they seem to have 4000 products...Any ideas? Yes, VMWare is conveniently confusing for their free products. Hmm... it seems to have gotten worse. Perhaps: http://downloads.vmware.com/d/ And then the Download VMware ESXi free link in the right column. Basically, anything they offer for free will do what you need for basic stuff. There's also any of the free stuff from these: http://www.xen.org/ http://www.virtualbox.org/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Virtual_PC End of the day, for desktop purposes these are all about the same. Just dig until you find something without a trial license. H _______________________________________________ New York PHP Users Group Community Talk Mailing List http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/talk http://www.nyphp.org/Show-Participation
	Re: virtualization options... by Michael B Allen :: Rate this Message: Reply to Author \| View Threaded \| Show Only this Message On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 9:11 PM, Konstantin K <kkrutoi@...> wrote: > Hi guys, > > > I'd like a free tool that allows me to run a linux virtual machine on my > windows laptop so I can do development on it, ftp and ssh to it, and run > various services on it like apache and procmail... > > I know these tools (apache and procmail) are available for windows, but I > need a linux instance on my laptop as a virtual machine.... > > Any suggestions for this? > > I went to the VMWare site and couldn't figure out which product I needed - > they seem to have 4000 products...Any ideas? VMWare have a number of different free and non-free things but what you want is called "VMWare Server". Just Google for "VMWare Server download" and it should be fairly obvious as to what to do from there. Mike -- Michael B Allen Java Active Directory Integration http://www.ioplex.com/ _______________________________________________ New York PHP Users Group Community Talk Mailing List http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/talk http://www.nyphp.org/Show-Participation
	Re: virtualization options... by Konstantin K :: Rate this Message: Reply to Author \| View Threaded \| Show Only this Message you guys are great. thanks for the quick responses and good suggestions!! Konstantin On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 9:11 PM, Konstantin K <kkrutoi@...> wrote: Hi guys, I'd like a free tool that allows me to run a linux virtual machine on my windows laptop so I can do development on it, ftp and ssh to it, and run various services on it like apache and procmail... I know these tools (apache and procmail) are available for windows, but I need a linux instance on my laptop as a virtual machine.... Any suggestions for this? I went to the VMWare site and couldn't figure out which product I needed - they seem to have 4000 products...Any ideas? thanks, Konstantin _______________________________________________ New York PHP Users Group Community Talk Mailing List http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/talk http://www.nyphp.org/Show-Participation
	Re: virtualization options... by David Krings :: Rate this Message: Reply to Author \| View Threaded \| Show Only this Message Konstantin K wrote: > Hi guys, > > > I'd like a free tool that allows me to run a linux virtual machine on my > windows laptop so I can do development on it, ftp and ssh to it, and run > various services on it like apache and procmail... > > I know these tools (apache and procmail) are available for windows, but > I need a linux instance on my laptop as a virtual machine.... > > Any suggestions for this? > > I went to the VMWare site and couldn't figure out which product I needed > - they seem to have 4000 products...Any ideas? > Well, you can use VMWare Server, but unless you have beefy machine it will be slow (as anything from VMWare). I use VMWare Server at work and while it is of the typical not so great VMWare quality it works for me. You might want to take a look as well at VirtualBox. Other than that, Microsoft's VirtualPC is another option, but from my experience VPC is at the bottom of the trash can when it comes for desktop virtualization. David No virus found in this outgoing message Checked by PC Tools AntiVirus (6.1.0.25 - 6.13500). http://www.pctools.com/free-antivirus/ _______________________________________________ New York PHP Users Group Community Talk Mailing List http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/talk http://www.nyphp.org/Show-Participation
	Re: virtualization options... by David Krings :: Rate this Message: Reply to Author \| View Threaded \| Show Only this Message Hans Zaunere wrote: > And then the Download VMware ESXi free link in the right column. Basically, > anything they offer for free will do what you need for basic stuff. ESXi as well as ESX are bare metal hypervisors, so you cannot run them on top of Windope. If you look for bare metal, use Citrix. It wipes the floor with VMWare. David No virus found in this outgoing message Checked by PC Tools AntiVirus (6.1.0.25 - 6.13500). http://www.pctools.com/free-antivirus/ _______________________________________________ New York PHP Users Group Community Talk Mailing List http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/talk http://www.nyphp.org/Show-Participation
	Re: virtualization options... by Michael B Allen :: Rate this Message: Reply to Author \| View Threaded \| Show Only this Message On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 9:54 PM, David Krings <ramons@...> wrote: > Konstantin K wrote: >> >> Hi guys, >> I'd like a free tool that allows me to run a linux virtual machine on my >> windows laptop so I can do development on it, ftp and ssh to it, and run >> various services on it like apache and procmail... >> I know these tools (apache and procmail) are available for windows, but I >> need a linux instance on my laptop as a virtual machine.... >> Any suggestions for this? >> I went to the VMWare site and couldn't figure out which product I needed >> - they seem to have 4000 products...Any ideas? >> > > Well, you can use VMWare Server, but unless you have beefy machine it will > be slow (as anything from VMWare). I use VMWare Server at work and while it > is of the typical not so great VMWare quality it works for me. You might > want to take a look as well at VirtualBox. Other than that, Microsoft's > VirtualPC is another option, but from my experience VPC is at the bottom of > the trash can when it comes for desktop virtualization. That is not my experience. I have 4-5 Windows and Linux guests running at the same time in VMWare Server on cheap desktop grade boxes running Linux. As long as you have a lot of memory (4 GB is good) and you install VMWare Tools on the Windows guests, VMWare Server performs just fine. Mike -- Michael B Allen Java Active Directory Integration http://www.ioplex.com/ _______________________________________________ New York PHP Users Group Community Talk Mailing List http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/talk http://www.nyphp.org/Show-Participation
	Re: virtualization options... by David Krings :: Rate this Message: Reply to Author \| View Threaded \| Show Only this Message Michael B Allen wrote: > > That is not my experience. I have 4-5 Windows and Linux guests running > at the same time in VMWare Server on cheap desktop grade boxes running > Linux. As long as you have a lot of memory (4 GB is good) and you > install VMWare Tools on the Windows guests, VMWare Server performs > just fine. I was comparing it to Citrix, which is easily a 1/3rd faster on the same hardware. I use VMWare Server and it works, I like especially that I can connect to VMs and manage the system using a browser, but the quality of the admin interface is IMHO plain horrible like all the other admin tool from VMWare. Slow and crashy. For example on ESX I use third party tools for the most important tasks such as file copying. At work we decided to dicth ESX and go with Citrix, much faster and costs less. And yes, without VMWare tools the VMs are useless. Since the request was for 'laptop' virtualization I'd give VirtualBox a try first. If that doesn't pan out try VMWare Server. David No virus found in this outgoing message Checked by PC Tools AntiVirus (6.1.0.25 - 6.13500). http://www.pctools.com/free-antivirus/ _______________________________________________ New York PHP Users Group Community Talk Mailing List http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/talk http://www.nyphp.org/Show-Participation
	Re: virtualization options... by Tim Sailer :: Rate this Message: Reply to Author \| View Threaded \| Show Only this Message On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 09:22:07PM -0400, Eddie Drapkin wrote: > www.virtualbox.org +1 on virtualbox. Although I am VMWare certified and use all their products, for my own development platform on my laptop, I use virtualbox. It just works. And, you can push images from virtualbox back and forth with VMWare when you have a working environment. Tim _______________________________________________ New York PHP Users Group Community Talk Mailing List http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/talk http://www.nyphp.org/Show-Participation