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	<updated>2009-12-01T03:01:56Z</updated>
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26590668</id>
	<title>Extended Deadline, Visual Interfaces to the Social and Semantic Web,  	Hong Kong, 7th February 2010 (workshop co-located with IUI2010)</title>
	<published>2009-12-01T03:01:56Z</published>
	<updated>2009-12-01T03:01:56Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Tom Heath</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Hi all,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Due to a postponement of the early bird registration deadline for
&lt;br&gt;Intelligent User Interfaces 2010 (IUI2010) in Hong Kong, we have
&lt;br&gt;decided to extend the deadline for submissions to the VISSW2010
&lt;br&gt;workshop (Visual Interfaces to the Social and Semantic Web). The
&lt;br&gt;revised dates are as follows:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;* Paper submission deadline: 14th December, 2009 (11:59pm Hawaii time)
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;* Notification of acceptance: 5th January, 2010
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;* Camera-ready paper submission deadline: TBD
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If you have any questions about the workshop please contact: vissw2010
&lt;br&gt;[at] easychair [dot] org
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Cheers,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Tom.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;2009/10/20 Tom Heath &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26590668&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;tom.heath@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;:
&lt;div class='shrinkable-quote'&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; [apologies if you see this announcement more than once...]
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; CALL FOR PAPERS
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; ------------------------------
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 2nd International Workshop on Visual Interfaces to the Social and
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Semantic Web (VISSW2010)
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; In conjunction with the International Conference on Intelligent User
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Interfaces (IUI2010)
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Hong Kong, 7th February 2010
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.smart-ui.org/events/vissw2010/&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.smart-ui.org/events/vissw2010/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; INTRODUCTION
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; -----------------------
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; The continued growth and importance of the Social Web has resulted in
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; ever increasing volumes of data created, published and consumed by
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; users. This vast amount of data takes many forms, including text,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; images, video and more recently streams of status information from
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; applications such as Twitter. Not only is this data accessible through
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; more traditional means, such as desktop and laptop computers, but also
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; via diverse platforms such as mobile phones and set-top boxes that
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; bring unique constraints in terms of computing resources and user
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; interfaces. Through the increasing availability of Web APIs, data that
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; has traditionally been coupled with a specific application may now be
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; exposed through novel interfaces developed by third parties, providing
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; functionality not previously anticipated by the data owner.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; In tandem with the growth of the Social Web, the Web at large has
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; experienced a significant evolution into a Web not just of linked
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; documents, but also of Linked Data. This development, which exploits
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; the Semantic Web technology stack, allows relationships to be
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; expressed between items in distributed data sets, paving the way for
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; integration of raw data from multiple, heterogeneous sources. Coupled
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; with the increasing availability of APIs that expose structured (if
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; not linked) data from the Social Web, application developers have a
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; wealth of data available to them upon which they can build compelling
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; visual interfaces.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; The ability to easily integrate vast amounts of data from across the
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Social and Semantic Web raises significant and exciting research
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; challenges, not least of which how to provide effective access to and
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; navigation across vast, heterogeneous and interconnected data sources.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; However, the need for intelligent and visual human interfaces to this
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; evolving Web is not limited simply to the modalities of searching and
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; browsing, important as these are. As the Web becomes increasingly
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; populated with data, continues to evolve from a read-mainly to a
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; read-write medium, and the level of social interaction supported on
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; the Web increases, there is also a pressing need to support end-users
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; who engage in a wide range of online tasks, such as publishing and
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; sharing their own data on the Web.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; This workshop aims to bring together researchers and practitioners
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; from diverse, complementary fields to discuss the latest research
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; results and challenges in designing, implementing, and evaluating
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; intelligent interfaces to structured or Linked Data in the context of
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; the Social or Semantic Web. The workshop will serve as an opportunity
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; for researchers to gain feedback on their work, and to identify
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; potential collaborations with their peers. We believe that the
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; potential for fostering links between a variety of facets of the IUI
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; community will help to ensure an exciting workshop program.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Information about the previous workshop can be found at:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.smart-ui.org/events/vissw2010/&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.smart-ui.org/events/vissw2010/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; TOPICS OF INTEREST
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; ----------------------------------
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Topics of interest include, but are not limited to:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;    * Interfaces
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;          o Novel visualisation of structured, linked and aggregated
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; data, originating from multiple sources.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;          o Novel interfaces for high-volume transient data, e.g.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; feeds, streams and sensors.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;          o 'Living' interfaces to constantly evolving data,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; vocabularies, and emerging links between them.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;          o Task-centric interfaces for structured and/or Linked Data.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;          o Interface components for displaying/interacting with
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; aggregated, heterogeneous Linked Data, e.g. components for displaying
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; provenance information.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;          o Lightweight components and processes for casual users to
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; publish/share their own content on the Web.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;          o Ontology-based visualization of collections of data.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;    * Interaction Paradigms
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;          o Novel interaction paradigms for textual, photos, music,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; videos, etc. on alternative platforms (e.g. mobile devices, set-top
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; boxes, shared/public displays).
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;          o Novel interaction paradigms with structured, linked and
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; aggregated data.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;          o Investigation of task-centric interaction paradigms beyond
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; search and browse.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;          o Ontology-based interaction with collections of data.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;          o Semantic models for interaction and their reuse on the web
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;    * Empirical Studies and Evaluation
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;          o Empirical studies that can guide the development of
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; interfaces for Linked Data.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;          o Use cases which present novel visualization requirements
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; and expose interesting interaction challenges on the Social and
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Semantic Web.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;          o Lessons learned from user-studies, pilot systems and live
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; deployments in the Social and Semantic Web.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; SUBMISSIONS
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; -----------------------
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; We welcome three types of submissions:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;    * Full papers which should be between 6 and 10 pages.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;    * Short papers and position papers which should be up to 5 pages.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;    * Demo papers which should be a 2 page description with a
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; screenshot of the working prototype or preferably a link to an online
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; demo.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Submissions must be in PDF format and prepared according to the IUI
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; format. Papers will be peer-reviewed by three independent reviewers.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Papers can be submitted via the EasyChair system at:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.easychair.org/conferences?conf=vissw2010&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.easychair.org/conferences?conf=vissw2010&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;. Accepted papers
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; will be published in CEUR-WS.org proceedings.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; IMPORTANT DATES
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; ------------------------------
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;    * Paper submission deadline: 30th November, 2009 (11:59pm Hawaii time)
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;    * Notification of acceptance: 18th December, 2009
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;    * Camera-ready paper submission deadline: 12th January, 2010
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; REGISTRATION
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; ------------------------
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Please refer to the main conference website for registration details:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.iuiconf.org/&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.iuiconf.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; ORGANISERS
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; ----------------------
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;    * Siegfried Handschuh, DERI, NUI Galway, Ireland
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;    * Tom Heath, Talis Information Ltd, UK
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;    * VinhTuan Thai, DERI, NUI Galway, Ireland
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;    * Ian Dickinson, Epimorphics Ltd, UK
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;    * Lora Aroyo, VU Amsterdam, The Netherlands
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;    * Valentina Presutti, Semantic Technology Laboratory (STLab), ISTC, Italy
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; PROGRAMME COMMITTEE
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; ------------------------------------------
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;    * Peter Brusilovsky, University of Pittsburgh, US
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;    * Karen Church, Telefonica Research, ES
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;    * Duane Degler, Design for Context, US
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;    * Bertrand Delacretaz, Day, CH
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;    * Aldo Gangemi, CNR-ISTC, IT
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;    * Alain Giboin, INRIA, FR
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;    * Michael Hausenblas, DERI, NUI Galway, IE
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;    * Nathalie Henry, Microsoft Research, US
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;    * David Karger, MIT, US
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;    * Nicholas J. Kings, BT, UK
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;    * Georgi Kobilarov, FU Berlin, DE
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;    * Steffen Lohmann, University of Duisburg, DE
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;    * Wolfgang Maass, University of St.Gallen, CH
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;    * Knud Möller, DERI, NUI Galway, IE
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;    * Enrico Motta, The Open University, UK
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;    * Alexandre Passant, DERI, NUI Galway, IE
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;    * Adam Perer, IBM Research, IL
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;    * Massimo Romanelli, DFKI, DE
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;    * Lloyd Rutledge, Open Universiteit, NL
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;    * Harald Sack, Hasso-Plattner-Institut, DE
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;    * Sebastian Schaffert, Salzburg Research, AT
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;    * Bernhard Schandl, Uni Vienna, AT
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;    * Daniel Schwabe, PUC-Rio, BR
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;    * Barry Smyth, University College Dublin, IE
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;    * Carlo Torniai, Simon Fraser University, CA
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;    * Fabio Vitali, University of Bologna, IT
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;    * Earl Wagner, Northwestern University, US
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;    * Jun Zhao, Oxford University, UK
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; CONTACT INFORMATION
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; --------------------------------------
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; If you have any questions, please feel free to contact the workshop
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; organizers at: vissw2010 [at] easychair [dot] org
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; --
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Dr Tom Heath
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Researcher
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Platform Division
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Talis Information Ltd
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; T: 0870 400 5000
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; W: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.talis.com/&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.talis.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;-- 
&lt;br&gt;Dr Tom Heath
&lt;br&gt;Researcher
&lt;br&gt;Platform Division
&lt;br&gt;Talis Information Ltd
&lt;br&gt;T: 0870 400 5000
&lt;br&gt;W: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.talis.com/&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.talis.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;p&gt;From forum: &lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/w3.org---semantic-web-f11665.html&quot; embed=&quot;fixTarget[11665]&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; &gt;w3.org - semantic-web&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</content>
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26590014</id>
	<title>Sesame 2.3.0 released</title>
	<published>2009-12-01T02:56:24Z</published>
	<updated>2009-12-01T02:56:24Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Arjohn Kampman-2</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Dear all,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;We have just released Sesame 2.3.0. Sesame 2.3.0 has major improvements
&lt;br&gt;on three subjects: NativeStore performance, query optimization and the
&lt;br&gt;SeRQL query language. Of course, there's also the usual set of bug
&lt;br&gt;fixes. For more info, please visit &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.openrdf.org/&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.openrdf.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Regards,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Arjohn Kampman
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;-- 
&lt;br&gt;Arjohn Kampman, Senior Software Engineer
&lt;br&gt;Aduna - Semantic Power
&lt;br&gt;www.aduna-software.com
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;p&gt;From forum: &lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/w3.org---semantic-web-f11665.html&quot; embed=&quot;fixTarget[11665]&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; &gt;w3.org - semantic-web&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</content>
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26588819</id>
	<title>ISO/DIS 25964-1 now available</title>
	<published>2009-12-01T01:18:30Z</published>
	<updated>2009-12-01T01:18:30Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Stella Dextre Clarke-2</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">At last everyone can access a Draft of ISO 25964-1 “Thesauri and 
&lt;br&gt;interoperability with other vocabularies. Thesauri for information 
&lt;br&gt;retrieval” . You can view and comment on it *free of charge* on the BSI 
&lt;br&gt;site (see details below). Comments on the associated draft XML schema 
&lt;br&gt;are best submitted via the NISO site.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Work has been under way since May 2008 to revise and extend the 
&lt;br&gt;international standards for thesauri, ISO 2788 and ISO 5964. The updated 
&lt;br&gt;content of these two standards, plus other material needed to support 
&lt;br&gt;interoperability, will be combined in a new standard ISO 25964, as follows:
&lt;br&gt;ISO 25964. Thesauri and interoperability with other vocabularies
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; Part 1: Thesauri for information retrieval
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; Part 2: Interoperability with other vocabularies
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Part 1, officially numbered ISO/DIS 25964-1, has been released as a 
&lt;br&gt;draft available for public comment until the end of February 2010.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Part 1 covers monolingual and multilingual thesauri. As well as updating 
&lt;br&gt;the entire content of ISO 2788 and ISO 5964, coverage includes:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; guidelines for thesaurus management software;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; a data model for monolingual and multilingual thesauri;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; recommendations for exchange formats and protocols.
&lt;br&gt;An XML schema for data exchange is included as an informative appendix, 
&lt;br&gt;and is available free of charge at &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.niso.org/schemas/iso25964/&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.niso.org/schemas/iso25964/&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;. Please click the “comments” link on this web page, to give your 
&lt;br&gt;feedback on the draft schema.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;While the data model is not exactly the same as the SKOS model, there is 
&lt;br&gt;a lot of commonality between the two, and some members of the SKOS 
&lt;br&gt;community have proposed extensions to achieve better alignment. Let us 
&lt;br&gt;all hope this effort pays off!
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The whole standard may be viewed online at &lt;a href=&quot;http://drafts.bsigroup.com/&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://drafts.bsigroup.com/&lt;/a&gt;. 
&lt;br&gt;You have to register on the site, but there is no charge for 
&lt;br&gt;registration, and it is easy to submit comments on each clause, whether 
&lt;br&gt;you are in the UK or not. Alternatively a hard copy is available from 
&lt;br&gt;BSI at a price of £36 (just £18 for BSI members). Place your order 
&lt;br&gt;online at &lt;a href=&quot;http://shop.bsigroup.com/&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://shop.bsigroup.com/&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp; (where the draft is listed under an 
&lt;br&gt;alternative number of 09/30165649 DC).
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;A copy of the whole draft may also be obtained from any of the national 
&lt;br&gt;standards bodies which are members of ISO, the International 
&lt;br&gt;Organization for Standards.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Development of the standard is based on BS 8723, which was published in 
&lt;br&gt;5 parts during 2005-2008. The work is managed by a Working Group known 
&lt;br&gt;as ISO TC46/SC9/WG8, which has participants from 15 countries and is led 
&lt;br&gt;by Stella Dextre Clarke of the UK. The Secretariat is provided by NISO 
&lt;br&gt;(USA). WG8 is now actively working on Part 2 of the standard, which will 
&lt;br&gt;provide guidance on mapping between vocabularies.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;See official website at &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.niso.org/workrooms/iso25964&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.niso.org/workrooms/iso25964&lt;/a&gt;. Further 
&lt;br&gt;information may be found in the ASIS&amp;T Bulletin, at 
&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.asis.org/Bulletin/Oct-08/OctNov08_DextreClark.pdf&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.asis.org/Bulletin/Oct-08/OctNov08_DextreClark.pdf&lt;/a&gt;, and in an 
&lt;br&gt;article in the Technology Watch Report at 
&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://metadaten-twr.org/tag/iso-25964/&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://metadaten-twr.org/tag/iso-25964/&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;-- 
&lt;br&gt;*****************************************************
&lt;br&gt;Stella Dextre Clarke
&lt;br&gt;Information Consultant
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	<title>ECCOMAS CFD 2010 Mini-Symposium on Image Processing and Visualization</title>
	<published>2009-11-30T10:47:34Z</published>
	<updated>2009-11-30T10:47:34Z</updated>
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		<name>João Manuel R. S. Tavares</name>
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&lt;p class=MsoNormal&gt;&lt;span lang=EN-GB&gt;-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class=MsoNormal&gt;&lt;span lang=EN-GB&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class=MsoNormal&gt;&lt;span lang=EN-GB&gt;(Apologies for cross-posting)&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class=MsoNormal&gt;&lt;span lang=EN-GB&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class=MsoNormal&gt;&lt;span lang=EN-GB&gt;Mini-Symposium on Image Processing and
Visualization&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class=MsoNormal&gt;&lt;span lang=EN-GB&gt;ECCOMAS CFD 2010 - Fifth European Conference
on Computational Fluid Dynamics&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class=MsoNormal&gt;&lt;span lang=EN-GB&gt;June 14th -17th, 2010, Lisbon, Portugal&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class=MsoNormal&gt;&lt;span lang=EN-GB&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.eccomas-cfd2010.org&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.eccomas-cfd2010.org&lt;/a&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class=MsoNormal&gt;&lt;span lang=EN-US&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class=MsoNormal&gt;&lt;span lang=EN-GB&gt;We would appreciate if you could distribute
this information by your colleagues and co-workers.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class=MsoNormal&gt;&lt;span lang=EN-GB&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class=MsoNormal&gt;&lt;span lang=EN-GB&gt;-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class=MsoNormal&gt;&lt;span lang=EN-GB&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class=MsoNormal&gt;&lt;span lang=EN-GB&gt;Dear Colleague,&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class=MsoNormal&gt;&lt;span lang=EN-GB&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class=MsoNormal&gt;&lt;span lang=EN-GB&gt;Within the ECCOMAS CFD 2010 - Fifth
European Conference on Computational Fluid Dynamics (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.eccomas-cfd2010.org&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.eccomas-cfd2010.org&lt;/a&gt;), to
be held in Lisbon, Portugal&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span lang=EN-US&gt;, on 14-17 June 2010&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span lang=EN-GB&gt;, we are organizing the Mini-Symposium on &amp;#8220;Image Processing
and Visualization&amp;#8221;.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class=MsoNormal&gt;&lt;span lang=EN-GB&gt;Due to your research activities in the related
fields, we would like to invite you to submit an invited abstract to our
mini-symposium. Your contribution is mostly welcomed, and we would be honoured
if you could accept this invitation.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class=MsoNormal&gt;&lt;span lang=EN-GB&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class=MsoNormal&gt;&lt;span lang=EN-GB&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class=MsoNormal&gt;&lt;span lang=EN-GB&gt;TOPICS OF INTEREST (not restricted to):&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class=MsoNormal&gt;&lt;span lang=EN-GB&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class=MsoNormal&gt;&lt;span lang=EN-GB&gt;- Image Analysis;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class=MsoNormal&gt;&lt;span lang=EN-GB&gt;- Image Restoration, Compression,
Segmentation and Description;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class=MsoNormal&gt;&lt;span lang=EN-GB&gt;- Object Tracking, Matching, Recognition
and Reconstruction;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class=MsoNormal&gt;&lt;span lang=EN-GB&gt;- Visual Inspection;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class=MsoNormal&gt;&lt;span lang=EN-GB&gt;- 3D Vision;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class=MsoNormal&gt;&lt;span lang=EN-GB&gt;- Data Processing, Modeling and Analysis;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class=MsoNormal&gt;&lt;span lang=EN-GB&gt;- Scientific Visualization;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class=MsoNormal&gt;&lt;span lang=EN-GB&gt;- Enhanced Visualization;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class=MsoNormal&gt;&lt;span lang=EN-GB&gt;- Human Computer Interaction;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class=MsoNormal&gt;&lt;span lang=EN-GB&gt;- Simulation and Animation;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class=MsoNormal&gt;&lt;span lang=EN-GB&gt;- Virtual Reality;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class=MsoNormal&gt;&lt;span lang=EN-GB&gt;- Software Development for Image Processing
and Visualization;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class=MsoNormal&gt;&lt;span lang=EN-GB&gt;- Grid Computing in Image Processing and
Visualization;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class=MsoNormal&gt;&lt;span lang=EN-GB&gt;- Applications of Image Processing and
Visualization on fluid dynamics.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class=MsoNormal&gt;&lt;span lang=EN-GB&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class=MsoNormal&gt;&lt;span lang=EN-GB&gt;IMPORTANT DATES:&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class=MsoNormal&gt;&lt;span lang=EN-GB style='background:yellow;mso-highlight:
yellow'&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class=MsoNormal&gt;&lt;span lang=EN-GB&gt;Deadline for submission of abstracts: December
31, 2009;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class=MsoNormal&gt;&lt;span lang=EN-GB&gt;Notification of acceptance: January 15,
2010;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class=MsoNormal&gt;&lt;span lang=EN-GB&gt;Submission of camera-ready manuscripts: March
31, 2010.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class=MsoNormal&gt;&lt;span lang=EN-GB style='background:yellow;mso-highlight:
yellow'&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class=MsoNormal&gt;&lt;span lang=EN-GB&gt;ABSTRACT SUBMISSION:&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class=MsoNormal&gt;&lt;span lang=EN-GB&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class=MsoNormal&gt;&lt;span lang=EN-GB&gt;Please go to the abstract submission page (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.eccomas-cfd2010.org/abstractSubmission.php&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.eccomas-cfd2010.org/abstractSubmission.php&lt;/a&gt;)
and select the Mini-Symposium on &amp;#8220;Image Processing and
Visualization&amp;#8221;.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class=MsoNormal&gt;&lt;span lang=EN-GB&gt;Please, see the Instructions for Authors
at: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.eccomas-cfd2010.org/authorsInstructions.php&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.eccomas-cfd2010.org/authorsInstructions.php&lt;/a&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class=MsoNormal&gt;&lt;span lang=EN-GB&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class=MsoNormal&gt;&lt;span lang=EN-GB&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class=MsoNormal&gt;&lt;span lang=EN-US&gt;With kind regards,&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class=MsoNormal&gt;&lt;span lang=EN-US&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class=MsoNormal&gt;&lt;span lang=EN-GB&gt;João Manuel R. S. Tavares, University of
Porto, Portugal, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span lang=EN-US&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26579904&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;tavares@...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span lang=EN-GB&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class=MsoNormal&gt;&lt;span lang=EN-GB&gt;Renato Natal Jorge, University of Porto, Portugal,
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span lang=EN-US&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26579904&amp;i=1&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;rnatal@...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span lang=EN-GB&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class=MsoNormal&gt;&lt;span lang=EN-GB&gt;(Organizers of the Mini-Symposium on
&amp;#8220;Image Processing and Visualization&amp;#8221;)&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26581060</id>
	<title>FLoC 2010: Call for Papers</title>
	<published>2009-11-30T09:19:07Z</published>
	<updated>2009-11-30T09:19:07Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Nicole Schweikardt</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">2010 FEDERATED LOGIC CONFERENCE (FLoC'10)
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt; Edinburgh, Scotland, U.K.
&lt;br&gt; July 9-21, 2010
&lt;br&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.floc-conference.org&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.floc-conference.org&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt; CALL FOR PAPERS
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;* The fifth Federated Logic Conference (FLoC'10) will be held in
&lt;br&gt; Edinburgh, Scotland, U.K. (www.edinburgh.org), in July 2010, at the
&lt;br&gt; School of Informatics at University of Edinburgh (www.inf.ed.ac.uk).
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;* The following conferences will participate in FLoC:
&lt;br&gt; - CAV 2010:   Int'l Conference on Computer-Aided Verification
&lt;br&gt; - CSF 2010:   IEEE Computer Security Foundations Symposium
&lt;br&gt; - ICLP 2010:  Int'l Conference on Logic Programming
&lt;br&gt; - IJCAR 2010: Int'l Joint Conference on Automated Reasoning
&lt;br&gt; - ITP 2010:   Int'l Conference on Interactive Theorem Proving
&lt;br&gt; - LICS 2010:  IEEE Symposium on Logic in Computer Science
&lt;br&gt; - RTA 2010:   Int'l Conference on Rewriting Techniques and Applications
&lt;br&gt; - SAT 2010:   Int'l Conference on Theory and Applications of
&lt;br&gt;               Satisfiability Testing
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;* Plenary events involving all the conferences are planned. In addition
&lt;br&gt; to the participating conferences, FLoC'10 will host a number of
&lt;br&gt; pre- and post-conference workshops. There will be receptions in the
&lt;br&gt; Edinburgh Castle and at the National Galleries of Scotland.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;* Travel support for US student participants is expected.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;* Detailed calls for papers (as well as submission instructions) for each
&lt;br&gt; of the participating conferences can be found at the FLoC'10 website at
&lt;br&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.floc-conference.org&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.floc-conference.org&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;* Important dates:
&lt;br&gt; - CAV 2010:
&lt;br&gt;      PC chairs: Byron Cook, Paul Jackson, Tayssir Touili
&lt;br&gt;      Jan 11: abstract submission deadline
&lt;br&gt;      Jan 15: paper submission deadline
&lt;br&gt; - CSF 2010:
&lt;br&gt;      PC chairs: Michael Backes, Andrew Myers
&lt;br&gt;      Feb 04: abstract submission deadline
&lt;br&gt;      Feb 08: paper submission deadline
&lt;br&gt; - ICLP 2010:
&lt;br&gt;      PC chairs: Manuel Hermenegildo, Torsten Schaub
&lt;br&gt;      Jan 26: paper registration deadline
&lt;br&gt;      Feb 02: paper submission deadline
&lt;br&gt; - IJCAR 2010:
&lt;br&gt;      PC chairs: Jürgen Giesl, Reiner Hähnle
&lt;br&gt;      Jan 15: abstract submission deadline
&lt;br&gt;      Jan 22: paper submission deadline
&lt;br&gt; - ITP 2010:
&lt;br&gt;      PC chairs: Matt Kaufmann, Lawrence C. Paulson
&lt;br&gt;      Jan 15: abstract submission deadline
&lt;br&gt;      Jan 22: paper submission deadline
&lt;br&gt; - LICS 2010:
&lt;br&gt;      PC chair: Jean-Pierre Jouannaud
&lt;br&gt;      Jan 10: abstract submission deadline
&lt;br&gt;      Jan 17: paper submission deadline
&lt;br&gt; - RTA 2010:
&lt;br&gt;      PC chair: Christopher Lynch
&lt;br&gt;      Jan 15: abstract submission deadline
&lt;br&gt;      Jan 22: paper submission deadline
&lt;br&gt; - SAT 2010:
&lt;br&gt;      PC chairs: Ofer Strichman, Stefan Szeider
&lt;br&gt;      Feb 01: abstract submission deadline
&lt;br&gt;      Feb 08: paper submission deadline
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;* FLoC'10 Steering Committee:
&lt;br&gt;  - General Chair: Moshe Y. Vardi
&lt;br&gt;  - Conference Co-chairs: Leonid Libkin, Gordon Plotkin
&lt;br&gt;  - CAV Representative: Edmund Clarke
&lt;br&gt;  - ICLP Representative: Manuel Hermenegildo
&lt;br&gt;  - IJCAR Representative: Alan Bundy
&lt;br&gt;  - ITP Representative: Tobias Nipkow
&lt;br&gt;  - LICS Representative: Martin Abadi
&lt;br&gt;  - RTA Representative: Juergen Giesl
&lt;br&gt;  - SAT Representative: Enrico Giunchiglia
&lt;br&gt;  - EasyChair Representative: Andrei Voronkov
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26577712</id>
	<title>HCLS Telcon Reminder</title>
	<published>2009-11-30T08:38:14Z</published>
	<updated>2009-11-30T08:38:14Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>M. Scott Marshall</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Here's the reminder for Thursday's HCLS call. See
&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://esw.w3.org/topic/HCLSIG/Meetings/2009-12-03_Conference_Call&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://esw.w3.org/topic/HCLSIG/Meetings/2009-12-03_Conference_Call&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;for
&lt;br&gt;up-to-date details, snapshot pasted below.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;New participants please see &lt;a href=&quot;http://esw.w3.org/topic/HCLSIG&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://esw.w3.org/topic/HCLSIG&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;and
&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://esw.w3.org/topic/HTML/Teleconferences&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://esw.w3.org/topic/HTML/Teleconferences&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;and info about mibbit in
&lt;br&gt;this message. Note: there is now a clickable link for mibbit below.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Cheers,
&lt;br&gt;Scott
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Conference Details
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;* Date of Call: Thursday December 3, 2009
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;* Time of Call: 11:00am Eastern Daylight Time (EDT), 16:00 British 
&lt;br&gt;Summer Time (BST), 17:00 Central European Time (CET)
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;* Dial-In #: +1.617.761.6200 (Cambridge, MA)
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;* Dial-In #: +33.4.89.06.34.99 (Nice, France)
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;* Dial-In #: +44.117.370.6152 (Bristol, UK)
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;* Participant Access Code: 4257 (&amp;quot;HCLS&amp;quot;).
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;* IRC Channel: irc.w3.org port 6665 channel #HCLS (see W3C IRC page 
&lt;br&gt;for details, or see Web IRC), Quick Start: Use mibbit for IRC access.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;* Duration: ~1h
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;* Convener: Scott, Susie
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;* Scribe: TBD
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Agenda
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26577593</id>
	<title>Re: BioRDF Telcon</title>
	<published>2009-11-30T08:19:05Z</published>
	<updated>2009-11-30T08:19:05Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Jim McCusker-3</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">I'm following a similar strategy, but have been folowing the MGED
&lt;br&gt;ontology where possible. I've finished aligning the IDF portion, and
&lt;br&gt;have started on SDRF. MGED ontology is missing a property and class
&lt;br&gt;for what is often termed as ProtocolApplication, which usually serves
&lt;br&gt;as an edge between derived from and derived nodes, while linking to
&lt;br&gt;the protocol used for the derivation. I am planning on creating this
&lt;br&gt;link in a MAGE extensions ontology, but would like to vet the
&lt;br&gt;structure here:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;ProtocolApplication is a class.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;New properties:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;has_derivation_source
&lt;br&gt;has_derivative
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;And then ProtocolApplication would have the restrictions:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;has_protocol some Protocol
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I don't put, domains, etc. on the derived properties to allow use in
&lt;br&gt;directly describing derivations if people so choose. There is no
&lt;br&gt;superclass for all nodes that can be derived or derived from, so I'm
&lt;br&gt;not bothering with restrictions for those, although I could add a
&lt;br&gt;union restriction to it.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If this structure us acceptable to people, I can publish the ontology
&lt;br&gt;for general use pretty quickly, and let us work from the same data
&lt;br&gt;structure. I would appreciate any feedback.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jim
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;On Monday, November 30, 2009, Helena Deus &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26577593&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;helenadeus@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt; wrote:
&lt;div class='shrinkable-quote'&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; @Kei,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; When you said data structure, did you mean the RDF structure
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; For now, all I have is the java object returned by parser. I've been using Limpopo, which creates an object that I can then parse to RDF uing Jena. The challenge, though, has been coming up with the predicates to formalize the relationships between the various elements. I'm using the XML structures fir IDF/SDRF etc. at &lt;a href=&quot;http://magetab-om.sourceforge.net&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://magetab-om.sourceforge.net&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;to automatically generate the structure that will contain the data. My plan is to then create the RDF triples that use the attributes described in those documents and populate them with the data from the MAGE-TAB java object created by Limpopo.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Right now all I have is a very raw RDF/XML document describing the relationships in the IDF structure: &lt;a href=&quot;http://magetab2rdf.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/magetabpredicates.rdf&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://magetab2rdf.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/magetabpredicates.rdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; The triples for that had to be encoded manually using Jena by reading the model.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; @Satya and Jun
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; I would very much like to be involved in that effort, do you already have a URL that I can look at?
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; ThanksLena
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 2:19 PM, Kei Cheung &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26577593&amp;i=1&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;kei.cheung@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt; wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Hi Lena et al,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; When you said data structure, did you mean the RDF structure. If so, is a pointer to the structure that we can look at?
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; As discussed during yesterday's call, Jun and Satya will help create a wiki page for listing some of the requirements for provenance/workflow in the context of gene lists, perhaps we should also use it to help coordinate some of the future activities (people also brought up Taverna during the call yesterday). Please coordinate with Satya and Jun.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Cheers,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; -Kei
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Helena Deus wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Hi all,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; I apologize for missing the call yesterday! It seems you had a pretty interesting discussion! :-)
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; If I understand Michael's statement, parsing the MAGE-TAB/MAGE-ML into RDF would result in obtaining only the raw and processed data files but not the mechanism used to process it nor the resulting gene list. That's also what I concluded after looking at the data structure created by Tony Burdett's Limpopo parser. However, having the raw data as linked data is already a great start! Kei, should I be looking into Taverna in order to reprocessed the raw files with a traceable analysis workflow?
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Thanks!
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Lena
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 9:59 AM, mdmiller &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26577593&amp;i=2&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;mdmiller53@...&lt;/a&gt; &amp;lt;mailto:&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26577593&amp;i=3&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;mdmiller53@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp;   hi all,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp;   (from the minutes)
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp;   &amp;quot;Yolanda/Kei/Scott: semantic annotation/description of workflow
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp;   would enable the retrieval of data relevant to that workflow (i.e..
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp;   data that could be used to populate that workflow for a different
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp;   experimental scenario)&amp;quot;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp;   what is typically in a MAGE-TAB/MAGE-ML document are the protocols
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp;   for how the source was processed into the extract then how the
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp;   hybridization, feature extraction, error and normalization were
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp;   performed.  these are interesting and different protocols can
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp;   cause differences at this level but it is pretty much a known art
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp;   and usually not of too much interest or variability.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp;   what is usually missing from those documents, along with the final
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp;   gene list, is how that gene list was obtained, what higher level
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp;   analysis was used, that is generally only in the paper unfortunately.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp;   cheers,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp;   michael
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp;   .
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp;   ----- Original Message ----- From: &amp;quot;Kei Cheung&amp;quot;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
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&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp;   Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 1:27 PM
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp;   Subject: Re: BioRDF Telcon
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp;       Today's BioRDF minutes are available at the following:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp;       &lt;a href=&quot;http://esw.w3.org/topic/HCLSIG_BioRDF_Subgroup/Meetings/2009/11-23_Conference_Call&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://esw.w3.org/topic/HCLSIG_BioRDF_Subgroup/Meetings/2009/11-23_Conference_Call&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp;       Thanks to Rob for scribing.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp;       Cheers,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp;       -Kei
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp;       Kei Cheung wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp;           This is a reminder that the next BioRDF telcon call will
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp;           be held at 11 am EDT (5 pm CET) on Monday, November 23
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp;           (see details below).
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp;           Cheers,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp;           -Kei
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp;           == Conference Details ==
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp;           * Date of Call: Monday November 23, 2009
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp;           * Time of Call: 11:00 am Eastern Time
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp;           * Dial-In #: +1.617.761.6200 (Cambridge, MA)
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp;           * Dial-In #: +33.4.89.06.34.99 (Nice, France)
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp;           * Dial-In #: +44.117.370.6152 (Bristol, UK)
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp;           * Participant Access Code: 4257 (&amp;quot;HCLS&amp;quot;)
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
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&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp;           channel #
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&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br&gt;-- 
&lt;br&gt;Jim
&lt;br&gt;--
&lt;br&gt;Jim McCusker
&lt;br&gt;Programmer Analyst
&lt;br&gt;Krauthammer Lab, Pathology Informatics
&lt;br&gt;Yale School of Medicine
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26576820</id>
	<title>Re: BioRDF Telcon</title>
	<published>2009-11-30T07:47:03Z</published>
	<updated>2009-11-30T07:47:03Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Helena Deus</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">@Kei,&lt;div&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;blockquote class=&quot;gmail_quote&quot; style=&quot;margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204, 204, 204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex&quot;&gt;


When you said data structure, did you mean the RDF structure&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;For now, all I have is the java object returned by parser. I&amp;#39;ve been using Limpopo, which creates an object that I can then parse to RDF uing Jena. The challenge, though, has been coming up with the predicates to formalize the relationships between the various elements. I&amp;#39;m using the XML structures fir IDF/SDRF etc. at &lt;a href=&quot;http://magetab-om.sourceforge.net&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://magetab-om.sourceforge.net&lt;/a&gt; to automatically generate the structure that will contain the data. My plan is to then create the RDF triples that use the attributes described in those documents and populate them with the data from the MAGE-TAB java object created by Limpopo. &lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Right now all I have is a very raw RDF/XML document describing the relationships in the IDF structure: &lt;a href=&quot;http://magetab2rdf.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/magetabpredicates.rdf&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://magetab2rdf.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/magetabpredicates.rdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;The triples for that had to be encoded manually using Jena by reading the model. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;@Satya and Jun&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;I would very much like to be involved in that effort, do you already have a URL that I can look at?&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Thanks&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Lena&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;gmail_quote&quot;&gt;On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 2:19 PM, Kei Cheung &lt;span dir=&quot;ltr&quot;&gt;&amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26576820&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;kei.cheung@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;&lt;/span&gt; wrote:&lt;br&gt;


&lt;blockquote class=&quot;gmail_quote&quot; style=&quot;margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex&quot;&gt;Hi Lena et al,&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
When you said data structure, did you mean the RDF structure. If so, is a pointer to the structure that we can look at?&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
As discussed during yesterday&amp;#39;s call, Jun and Satya will help create a wiki page for listing some of the requirements for provenance/workflow in the context of gene lists, perhaps we should also use it to help coordinate some of the future activities (people also brought up Taverna during the call yesterday). Please coordinate with Satya and Jun.&lt;br&gt;



&lt;br&gt;
Cheers,&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
-Kei&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
Helena Deus wrote:&lt;br&gt;
&lt;blockquote class=&quot;gmail_quote&quot; style=&quot;margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;
Hi all,&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
I apologize for missing the call yesterday! It seems you had a pretty interesting discussion! :-)&lt;br&gt;
If I understand Michael&amp;#39;s statement, parsing the MAGE-TAB/MAGE-ML into RDF would result in obtaining only the raw and processed data files but not the mechanism used to process it nor the resulting gene list. That&amp;#39;s also what I concluded after looking at the data structure created by Tony Burdett&amp;#39;s Limpopo parser. However, having the raw data as linked data is already a great start! Kei, should I be looking into Taverna in order to reprocessed the raw files with a traceable analysis workflow?&lt;br&gt;



&lt;br&gt;
Thanks!&lt;br&gt;
Lena&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;
On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 9:59 AM, mdmiller &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26576820&amp;i=1&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;mdmiller53@...&lt;/a&gt; &amp;lt;mailto:&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26576820&amp;i=2&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;mdmiller53@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; wrote:&lt;br&gt;



&lt;br&gt;
    hi all,&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
    (from the minutes)&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
    &amp;quot;Yolanda/Kei/Scott: semantic annotation/description of workflow&lt;br&gt;
    would enable the retrieval of data relevant to that workflow (i.e.&lt;br&gt;
    data that could be used to populate that workflow for a different&lt;br&gt;
    experimental scenario)&amp;quot;&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
    what is typically in a MAGE-TAB/MAGE-ML document are the protocols&lt;br&gt;
    for how the source was processed into the extract then how the&lt;br&gt;
    hybridization, feature extraction, error and normalization were&lt;br&gt;
    performed.  these are interesting and different protocols can&lt;br&gt;
    cause differences at this level but it is pretty much a known art&lt;br&gt;
    and usually not of too much interest or variability.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
    what is usually missing from those documents, along with the final&lt;br&gt;
    gene list, is how that gene list was obtained, what higher level&lt;br&gt;
    analysis was used, that is generally only in the paper unfortunately.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
    cheers,&lt;br&gt;
    michael&lt;br&gt;
    .&lt;br&gt;
    ----- Original Message ----- From: &amp;quot;Kei Cheung&amp;quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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    To: &amp;quot;HCLS&amp;quot; &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26576820&amp;i=5&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;public-semweb-lifesci@...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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    Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 1:27 PM&lt;br&gt;
    Subject: Re: BioRDF Telcon&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
        Today&amp;#39;s BioRDF minutes are available at the following:&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
        &lt;a href=&quot;http://esw.w3.org/topic/HCLSIG_BioRDF_Subgroup/Meetings/2009/11-23_Conference_Call&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://esw.w3.org/topic/HCLSIG_BioRDF_Subgroup/Meetings/2009/11-23_Conference_Call&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
        Thanks to Rob for scribing.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
        Cheers,&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
        -Kei&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
        Kei Cheung wrote:&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
            This is a reminder that the next BioRDF telcon call will&lt;br&gt;
            be held at 11 am EDT (5 pm CET) on Monday, November 23&lt;br&gt;
            (see details below).&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
            Cheers,&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
            -Kei&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
            == Conference Details ==&lt;br&gt;
            * Date of Call: Monday November 23, 2009&lt;br&gt;
            * Time of Call: 11:00 am Eastern Time&lt;br&gt;
            * Dial-In #: +1.617.761.6200 (Cambridge, MA)&lt;br&gt;
            * Dial-In #: +33.4.89.06.34.99 (Nice, France)&lt;br&gt;
            * Dial-In #: +44.117.370.6152 (Bristol, UK)&lt;br&gt;
            * Participant Access Code: 4257 (&amp;quot;HCLS&amp;quot;)&lt;br&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
            * IRC Channel: &lt;a href=&quot;http://irc.w3.org&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;irc.w3.org&lt;/a&gt; &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://irc.w3.org&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://irc.w3.org&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt; port 6665&lt;div&gt;&lt;br&gt;
            channel #HCLS (see W3C IRC page for details, or see Web&lt;br&gt;
            IRC), Quick Start: Use&lt;br&gt;
            &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mibbit.com/chat/?server=irc.w3.org:6665&amp;amp;channel=%23hcls&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.mibbit.com/chat/?server=irc.w3.org:6665&amp;amp;channel=%23hcls&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;
            &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mibbit.com/chat/?server=irc.w3.org:6665&amp;amp;channel=%23hcls&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.mibbit.com/chat/?server=irc.w3.org:6665&amp;amp;channel=%23hcls&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;&lt;br&gt;
            for IRC access.&lt;br&gt;
            * Duration: ~1 hour&lt;br&gt;
            * Frequency: bi-weekly&lt;br&gt;
            * Convener: Kei Cheung&lt;br&gt;
            * Scribe: to-be-determined&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
            == Agenda ==&lt;br&gt;
            * Roll call &amp;amp; introduction (Kei)&lt;br&gt;
            * RDF representation of microarray experiment and data (All)&lt;br&gt;
            * Provenance and workflow (All)&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26576574</id>
	<title>Translational Medicine Ontology Telcon</title>
	<published>2009-11-30T07:31:30Z</published>
	<updated>2009-11-30T07:31:30Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Susie Stephens-3</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">&lt;div&gt;Just a heads up that we won&amp;#39;t be having a Translational Medicine Ontology call this week, so the next call will be on Dec. 10.&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt; &lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;Thanks for all of your work on the paper. :-)&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt; &lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;Cheers,&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;&lt;br&gt;Susie&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt; &lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;== Conference Details ==&lt;br&gt; * Date of Call: Thursday December 10 2009 &lt;br&gt; * Time of Call: 12:00am - 1:00pm ET&lt;br&gt; * Dial-In #: +1.617.761.6200 (Cambridge, MA) &lt;br&gt; * Dial-In #: +33.4.89.06.34.99 (Nice, France) &lt;br&gt;
 * Dial-In #: +44.117.370.6152 (Bristol, UK) &lt;br&gt; * Participant Access Code: 42572 (&amp;quot;HCLS2&amp;quot;). &lt;br&gt; * IRC Channel: &lt;a href=&quot;http://irc.w3.org&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;irc.w3.org&lt;/a&gt; port 6665 channel #HCLS2 &lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt; * Duration: 1h &lt;br&gt; * Convener: Susie&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;p&gt;== Agenda ==&lt;br&gt; * Paper Submission - Susie&lt;br&gt; * Ontology Update - Colin&lt;br&gt; * Next Steps - All&lt;br&gt; * AOB&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26567431</id>
	<title>Upper and domain ontologies</title>
	<published>2009-11-29T07:34:17Z</published>
	<updated>2009-11-29T07:34:17Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Francisco J. Lopez-Pellicer</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Hi all:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I have the following doubt involving upper ontologies and domain
&lt;br&gt;ontologies. Upper ontologies are often described using FOL and modal
&lt;br&gt;logics because they deal with general semantics and intended meaning.
&lt;br&gt;Its implementation in the Semantic Web is in DL, much less expressive.
&lt;br&gt;For example, DOLCE UltraLite is a implementation in DL of the upper
&lt;br&gt;ontology DOLCE. Therefore, if I develop a domain ontology, which one of
&lt;br&gt;the following approaches is the proper choice?
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;(1) Develop the domain ontology in DL, importing a well-known DL
&lt;br&gt;implementation of the upper ontology.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;(2) Develop the domain ontology in DL, importing the upper FOL ontology.
&lt;br&gt;Then, create a DL implementation importing upper concepts from a
&lt;br&gt;well-known DL implementation.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;IMHO, the second approach guarantees that the concepts of the domain
&lt;br&gt;ontology are consistent with the intended meaning of the upper ontology.
&lt;br&gt;However, available tools, such as Protege, are focused in the first
&lt;br&gt;approach. I think these tools makes easy to develop domain ontologies
&lt;br&gt;that claim to be based in the upper ontology but can violate some of its
&lt;br&gt;axioms that can not be expressed in DL.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;This question is relevant in my field (GIS). I realize that we are using
&lt;br&gt;more and more the layered approach to develop domain ontologies, and I
&lt;br&gt;have the impression that we are just cherry picking the upper ontologies
&lt;br&gt;(the approach 1) rather than develop something with a shared semantics
&lt;br&gt;(the approach 2).
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Many thanks for considering my questions.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Best,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;fjlopez
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
&lt;br&gt;Francisco J. Lopez-Pellicer
&lt;br&gt;IAAA, Universidad de Zaragoza, Spain
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26567432</id>
	<title>Upper and domain ontologies</title>
	<published>2009-11-29T07:32:19Z</published>
	<updated>2009-11-29T07:32:19Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>fjlopez</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Hi all:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I have the following doubt involving upper ontologies and domain 
&lt;br&gt;ontologies. Upper ontologies are often described using FOL and modal 
&lt;br&gt;logics because they deal with general semantics and intended meaning. 
&lt;br&gt;Its implementation in the Semantic Web is in DL, much less expressive. 
&lt;br&gt;For example, DOLCE UltraLite is a implementation in DL of the upper 
&lt;br&gt;ontology DOLCE. Therefore, if I develop a domain ontology, which one of 
&lt;br&gt;the following approaches is the proper choice?
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;(1) Develop the domain ontology in DL, importing a well-known DL 
&lt;br&gt;implementation of the upper ontology.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;(2) Develop the domain ontology in DL, importing the upper FOL ontology. 
&lt;br&gt;Then, create a DL implementation importing upper concepts from a 
&lt;br&gt;well-known DL implementation.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;IMHO, the second approach guarantees that the concepts of the domain 
&lt;br&gt;ontology are consistent with the intended meaning of the upper ontology. 
&lt;br&gt;However, available tools, such as Protege, are focused in the first 
&lt;br&gt;approach. I think these tools makes easy to develop domain ontologies 
&lt;br&gt;that claim to be based in the upper ontology but can violate some of its 
&lt;br&gt;axioms that can not be expressed in DL.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;This question is relevant in my field (GIS). I realize that we are using 
&lt;br&gt;more and more the layered approach to develop domain ontologies, and I 
&lt;br&gt;have the impression that we are just cherry picking the upper ontologies 
&lt;br&gt;(the approach 1) rather than develop something with a shared semantics 
&lt;br&gt;(the approach 2).
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Many thanks for considering my questions.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Best,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;fjlopez
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
&lt;br&gt;Francisco J. Lopez-Pellicer
&lt;br&gt;IAAA, Universidad de Zaragoza, Spain
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26558842</id>
	<title>ANNOUNCEMENT: Raptor RDF Parser Library 1.4.20</title>
	<published>2009-11-28T18:15:35Z</published>
	<updated>2009-11-28T18:15:35Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Dave Beckett-2</name>
	</author>
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&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;Raptor RDF Parser Library 1.4.20
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &lt;a href=&quot;http://librdf.org/raptor/&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://librdf.org/raptor/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Raptor is a free software / Open Source C library that provides a set
&lt;br&gt;of Resource Description Framework (RDF) parsers and serializers that
&lt;br&gt;both generate RDF triples by parsing syntaxes and serialize RDF
&lt;br&gt;triples into a syntax. &amp;nbsp;It is a mature, portable and high performance
&lt;br&gt;library that works across many systems and architectures.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It parses the following syntax into RDF triples:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; RDF/XML, N-Triples, TRiG, Turtle, GRDDL (including microformats
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; hCard and hCal) and RSS tag soup for RSSes, Atom 0.3 and Atom 1.0.
&lt;br&gt;and serializes RDF triples into the following syntaxes:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; RDF/XML, RDF/XML abbreviated, RDF/XML XMP, N-Triples,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; Atom 1.0, RSS 1.0, Graphviz DOT, Turtle and JSON.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; *** WARNING: FUTURE ABI and API CHANGES ***
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; Releases of the raptor 1.4.x series will include bug fixes only and no
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; new features. New development has moved to raptor 2 where a planned
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; ABI and API break will happen. There may be preview releases of
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; raptor 2 with 1.9.x numbering.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The main changes in this version since the last release 2009-07-20 are:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; * Turtle serializing performance improvement by Chris Cannam
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; * librdfa RDFa parser updates to fix empty datatype, xml:lang and
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 1-char prefixes by Manu Sporny
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; * Fix a crash when the GRDDL parser reported errors
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; * Enable large file support for 32-bit systems
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; * Several resilience improvements by Lauri Aalto
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; * Other minor portability and bug fixes
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; * Fixed reported issues: 0000306 0000307 0000310 and 0000312.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;For full details of the changes see the Raptor 1.4.20 release notes at
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;a href=&quot;http://librdf.org/raptor/RELEASE.html#rel1_4_20&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://librdf.org/raptor/RELEASE.html#rel1_4_20&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Binary deb packages for Debian unstable will be made available
&lt;br&gt;later via the standard debian archive and download.librdf.org.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Sources are also available from the Redland SourceForge mirror site
&lt;br&gt;at &lt;a href=&quot;http://sourceforge.net/projects/librdf/&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://sourceforge.net/projects/librdf/&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;although the site is such
&lt;br&gt;a usability disaster that I'm not likely to use it anymore.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The &lt;a href=&quot;http://librdf.org/&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://librdf.org/&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;site lets you browse and check out the latest
&lt;br&gt;version of the sources in Subversion and use Raptor in various demos
&lt;br&gt;as part of Redland such as Triplr &lt;a href=&quot;http://triplr.org/&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://triplr.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;For more information on Redland, Raptor or Rasqal please join
&lt;br&gt;the redland-dev list by visiting &lt;a href=&quot;http://librdf.org/lists/&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://librdf.org/lists/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;or visit IRC channel #redland on irc.freenode.net
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Dave
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26549956</id>
	<title>Re: Using DBpedia resources as skos:Concepts?</title>
	<published>2009-11-27T18:23:40Z</published>
	<updated>2009-11-27T18:23:40Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Simon Spero</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 2:27 PM, martin &lt;span dir=&quot;ltr&quot;&gt;&amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26549956&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;martin@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;&lt;/span&gt; wrote:&lt;br&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;gmail_quote&quot;&gt;&lt;blockquote class=&quot;gmail_quote&quot; style=&quot;border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;&quot;&gt;
I believe that we are running into a problem if we interpret SKOS:Concept too widely, and allow
persons and other particulars be regarded as SKOS:Concept.&lt;br&gt;
SKOS:Concept clearly has been designed initially to cover universals, i.e., concepts in
the narrower sense, which have &amp;quot;instances&amp;quot; in the real world. This is why SKOS:Concept
has properties broader/narrower:&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
&amp;quot;The word &amp;quot;broader&amp;quot; should read here as &amp;quot;has broader concept&amp;quot;; the subject of a skos:broader statement is the more specific concept involved
in the assertion and its object is the more generic one. &amp;quot;&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
This clearly does not apply to persons, events and generally not to all &amp;quot;particulars&amp;quot;.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt;[...] &lt;br&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;blockquote class=&quot;gmail_quote&quot; style=&quot;border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;&quot;&gt;
In library classification, persons, such as Shakespeare, may appear as subjects. At least the library of congress
describes clearly such concepts as books talking about &amp;quot;Shakespeare&amp;quot;, and not as the person itself.
In this case, the concept &amp;quot;books about Shakespeare&amp;quot; clearly qualifies as SKOS:Concept. Narrower concepts
may be &amp;quot;books about Shakespeare&amp;#39;s comedies&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;Shakespeare biographies&amp;quot;. The example demonstrates,
that a person as literary subject is distinct from identifying the person.&lt;br&gt;
There is no contradiction to classify a URI for &amp;quot;Shakespeare&amp;quot; as both a literary subject(SKOS:Concept)
and a real person (foaf:person)). However, that does not make every person a subject, and persons behave like a subject!
&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br&gt;Martin- &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;You may be getting confused by the major changes that were made to SKOS in 2008, which altered the semantics of skos:broader.  &lt;br&gt;The initial design of SKOS can be seen at: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/Europe/reports/thes/1.0/guide/20040504/&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/Europe/reports/thes/1.0/guide/20040504/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;One of the  design requirements for SKOS,  R-CompatibilityWithISO2788,  required compatibility with ISO-2788.  &lt;br&gt;Since ISO 2788 and its kin provide for the instantive relationship (BTI)  the notion of skos:Concept &lt;i&gt;cannot&lt;/i&gt; exclude individuals.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;quot;Subjects&amp;quot; are what &amp;quot;documents&amp;quot; are &amp;quot;about&amp;quot;; if X is &amp;quot;about&amp;quot; Y, Y is a &amp;quot;subject&amp;quot; and X is a &amp;quot;document&amp;quot;.  Subjects are inten&lt;u&gt;t&lt;/u&gt;ional.  They aren&amp;#39;t about what things are, they are what things are about.  &lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;An antelope, in a museum is a document about the subject of antelopes. &lt;br&gt;An antelope with a tattoo of a frog, in a museum, is an antelope and a document, and is about the subject of antelopes, and about the subject of frogs.  It is not a frogelope.  &lt;br&gt;
Should this antelope escape, it remains an antelope, but is not a document, and is not about anything. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Simon&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26546866</id>
	<title>Re: Using DBpedia resources as skos:Concepts?</title>
	<published>2009-11-27T11:27:03Z</published>
	<updated>2009-11-27T11:27:03Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>martin-324</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Dear All,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I believe that we are running into a problem if we interpret SKOS:Concept too widely, and allow
&lt;br&gt;persons and other particulars be regarded as SKOS:Concept.
&lt;br&gt;SKOS:Concept clearly has been designed initially to cover universals, i.e., concepts in
&lt;br&gt;the narrower sense, which have &amp;quot;instances&amp;quot; in the real world. This is why SKOS:Concept
&lt;br&gt;has properties broader/narrower:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;quot;The word &amp;quot;broader&amp;quot; should read here as &amp;quot;has broader concept&amp;quot;; the subject of a skos:broader statement is the more specific concept involved
&lt;br&gt;in the assertion and its object is the more generic one. &amp;quot;
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;This clearly does not apply to persons, events and generally not to all &amp;quot;particulars&amp;quot;.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In the semantic Web, we seek clarity by formal ontologies. If we let creep in the
&lt;br&gt;bad practices of decades of abuse of database schemata, because in later use they do not fit what we
&lt;br&gt;initially anticipated, we render the whole idea of ontologies and unambiguous
&lt;br&gt;communication useless.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If we nevertheless introduce a person as a &amp;quot;SKOS:Concept&amp;quot;, and regard that we ignore
&lt;br&gt;not applicable properties, i.e., the broader/narrower, we have a schema that deliberately
&lt;br&gt;describes &amp;quot;unintented models&amp;quot;.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Nicola Guarino and others regard as one of the most important tasks of a formal ontology
&lt;br&gt;to avoid as much as possible unintended models.
&lt;br&gt;(GUARINO, N. 1998. Formal Ontology and Information Systems. In Formal Ontology in Information Systems. In Proceedings of the 1st 
&lt;br&gt;International Conference, Trento, Italy, 6-8 June 1998, N. GUARINO Ed. IOS Press, 3-15)
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;We invite, for instance, abuse of &amp;quot;broader&amp;quot; of a person as a group it belongs to, or as
&lt;br&gt;its parents. This would obviously be quite counterproductive. No interoperability is served,
&lt;br&gt;if a KOS is declared as SKOS compatible, but does not use it in an unambiguous sense. Even if
&lt;br&gt;SKOS would declare one kind of use as preferred, it would blur semantics and confuse future reasoning
&lt;br&gt;systems. Persons do not behave like classes of things.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In library classification, persons, such as Shakespeare, may appear as subjects. At least the library of congress
&lt;br&gt;describes clearly such concepts as books talking about &amp;quot;Shakespeare&amp;quot;, and not as the person itself.
&lt;br&gt;In this case, the concept &amp;quot;books about Shakespeare&amp;quot; clearly qualifies as SKOS:Concept. Narrower concepts
&lt;br&gt;may be &amp;quot;books about Shakespeare's comedies&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;Shakespeare biographies&amp;quot;. The example demonstrates,
&lt;br&gt;that a person as literary subject is distinct from identifying the person.
&lt;br&gt;There is no contradiction to classify a URI for &amp;quot;Shakespeare&amp;quot; as both a literary subject(SKOS:Concept)
&lt;br&gt;and a real person (foaf:person)). However, that does not make every person a subject, and persons behave like a subject!
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Leaving the definition of concepts deliberately open, such as SKOS:Concept between universals and particulars, is highly
&lt;br&gt;counterproductive in the general Semantic Web framework.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;a) A too wide definition that must be withdrawn later causes backwards incompatibility.
&lt;br&gt;b) A narrower definition can be broadened at a later time, if the impact is well understood
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;c) RDF is designed so that different ontologies can be freely combined. This requires some foresight
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;at which levels of specialization/generalization other ontologies my fit in:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;SKOS Concept currently combines all properties of labelling (preferred etc.) and defining vocabulary with the semantic
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;properties that hold only for universals.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;If the concepts of labelling are regarded to be useful for KOS about persons, objects, places, periods and events,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;no other adequate ontology for the latter can make use of these obviously applicable SKOS properties, without
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;buying in the unintended semantic properties.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;RDF does not foresee to partially reuse properties of a class. Therefore the intended mixing of ontolgies does only
&lt;br&gt;work if no ontology concentrates more properties in a class than are applicable to this class only.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Therefore I strongly recommend:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;Either, SKOS to take a clear position and state that it is only about universals, or better,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;==&amp;gt; split SKOS:Concept into two levels, for instance: &amp;quot;SKOS:Concept IsA SKOS:Entity&amp;quot;, such that
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;SKOS:Entity would describe labeling and Vocabularies a term belongs to, and SKOS:Concept would
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;specialize SKOS:Entity to universals. This splitting is obviously backwards compatible with all current
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;SKOS applications.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;Then, foaf:person or VIAF:person??? or ULAN:person could be declared as IsA &amp;quot;SKOS:Entity&amp;quot;, without interfering
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;with the semantics of universals, and everybody can reuse the management of multiple vocabularies proposed by SKOS.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;As a practical example, the CIDOC CRM (ISO21127) was deliberately designed to be SKOS compatible from the very conception
&lt;br&gt;of SKOS on, i.e., crm:E55_Type same_as SKOS:Concept, so that a clear interface between factual metadata and terminology
&lt;br&gt;represented as data (SKOS approach) can be guaranteed. If now SKOS takes a fuzzy stance to how particulars fit into it,
&lt;br&gt;SKOS becomes not only incompatible with the CRM, because there is no reasonable class it could fit to, but also with many
&lt;br&gt;other ontologies, and any other dedicated KOS scheme of particulars.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Best,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Martin
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26540459</id>
	<title>n-ary relations in OWL</title>
	<published>2009-11-26T23:20:49Z</published>
	<updated>2009-11-26T23:20:49Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Monika Solanki-3</name>
	</author>
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&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Dear All,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;We had a few questions with regards to the scope of n-ary relations in OWL
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Questions:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;1) Is satisfiability on OWL2 + n-ary relation undecidable?
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; Or is it an open question?
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;2) For the DL with n-ary relations in Section 5.7 [1],
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; the proof of decidability &amp;nbsp;uses reification
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; can't we do the same proof for OWL+n-ary relations?
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; Do we need intersection and negation of roles for this?
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;3) Let R be an n-ary relation and C_R the reification of R, i.e.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;the class coding R. Can't we express in OWL that &amp;nbsp;the tuples are
&lt;br&gt;uniquely represented by elements in R?
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;Would it be easy to prove that we cannot express this in OWL?
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; Actually I am not sure I understand how you express &amp;nbsp; that tuples are
&lt;br&gt;uniquely represented &amp;nbsp;in the DL
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;of [1] (see Definition 5.11 and Theorem 5.12).
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;[1] Calvanese and De Giacomo. Expressive Description Logics.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Monika
&lt;br&gt;- --
&lt;br&gt;Dr Monika Solanki
&lt;br&gt;F27 Department of Computer Science
&lt;br&gt;University of Leicester
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26540458</id>
	<title>test</title>
	<published>2009-11-26T23:08:39Z</published>
	<updated>2009-11-26T23:08:39Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Monika Solanki-3</name>
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&lt;br&gt;F27 Department of Computer Science
&lt;br&gt;University of Leicester
&lt;br&gt;Leicester LE1 7RH
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26528293</id>
	<title>Spanish translation of SKOS Primer</title>
	<published>2009-11-26T03:45:45Z</published>
	<updated>2009-11-26T03:45:45Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Juan Antonio Pastor Sánchez</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">&lt;span id=&quot;result_box&quot; class=&quot;medium_text&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);&quot; title=&quot;Estimados colegas:&quot;&gt;Dear Colleagues,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);&quot; title=&quot;Está disponible la traducción al Español del documento&quot;&gt;It is available the Spanish translation of the document &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span id=&quot;result_box&quot; class=&quot;medium_text&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);&quot; title=&quot;Está disponible la traducción al Español del documento&quot;&gt;&amp;quot;SKOS Simple Knowledge Organization System Primer (W3C Working Group Note 18 August 2009)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span id=&quot;result_box&quot; class=&quot;medium_text&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);&quot; title=&quot;Está disponible la traducción al Español del documento&quot;&gt;&amp;quot;&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://skos.um.es/TR/skos-primer&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://skos.um.es/TR/skos-primer&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);&quot; title=&quot;Espero que será de utilidad a la comunidad SKOS&quot;&gt;I hope it will be useful to the SKOS community.&lt;br&gt;
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26527561</id>
	<title>Re: TheSoz available in SKOS and SPARQL</title>
	<published>2009-11-26T02:47:14Z</published>
	<updated>2009-11-26T02:47:14Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Bernard Vatant</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Ah, oops. The form is under &amp;quot;contact&amp;quot;, so I did not figure it was a requirement for &amp;quot;download&amp;quot;. &lt;br&gt;I&amp;#39;m very dumb when it comes to interfaces :(&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Thanks&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Bernard&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;gmail_quote&quot;&gt;
2009/11/26 Zapilko, Benjamin &lt;span dir=&quot;ltr&quot;&gt;&amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26527561&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Benjamin.Zapilko@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;blockquote class=&quot;gmail_quote&quot; style=&quot;border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;&quot;&gt;
Dear Bernard,&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
just leave your email-address in the form and the download will work :-)&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
Cheers,&lt;br&gt;
Ben&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----&lt;br&gt;
Von: &lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26527561&amp;i=1&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;public-esw-thes-request@...&lt;/a&gt; im Auftrag von Bernard Vatant&lt;br&gt;
Gesendet: Do 26.11.2009 09:44&lt;br&gt;
An: Sure, York&lt;br&gt;
Cc: public-esw-thes&lt;br&gt;
Betreff: Re: TheSoz available in SKOS and SPARQL&lt;br&gt;
&lt;div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;h5&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;
York&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
Great news ... but the &amp;quot;download&amp;quot; button brings me back to the top of the&lt;br&gt;
page :(&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
Bernard&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
2009/11/26 Sure, York &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26527561&amp;i=2&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;york.sure@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; Dear SKOS-lovers,&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; the Thesaurus for the Social Sciences (TheSoz) is an interconnected&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; vocabulary in English and German on the social sciences, which contains&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; about 11,600 entries and covers topics of all social science disciplines and&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; related or interdisciplinary connected topics. Its publication aims at&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; providing a vocabulary for resources relevant for or related to the social&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; sciences on the web of Linked Open Data.&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; The thesaurus is maintained by the GESIS - Leibniz Institute for the Social&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; Sciences and is published under a Creative Commons (by-nc-nd) license.&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; It is published as a SKOS RDF/XML dump version which can be downloaded at &amp;lt;&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.gesis.org/en/services/tools-standards/social-science-thesaurus/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.gesis.org/en/services/tools-standards/social-science-thesaurus/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; &amp;gt;.&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; (Please scroll down the page!)&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; The thesaurus is furthermore available via a SPARQL endpoint at &amp;lt;&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://multiweb.gesis.org/thesoz/sparql&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://multiweb.gesis.org/thesoz/sparql&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;.&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; This is a very early version (v0.2) and we&amp;#39;re looking forward to get some&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; feedback for future improvements.&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; Further details about the conversion of the TheSoz to SKOS can be found in&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; the GESIS technical report 2009/07, available at &amp;lt;&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.gesis.org/fileadmin/upload/forschung/publikationen/gesis_reihen/gesis_methodenberichte/2009/TechnicalReport_09_07.pdf&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.gesis.org/fileadmin/upload/forschung/publikationen/gesis_reihen/gesis_methodenberichte/2009/TechnicalReport_09_07.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;

&amp;gt; &amp;gt;.&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; Kind regards,&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; York Sure and Benjamin Zapilko&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; --&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; Prof. Dr. York Sure&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; Scientific Director&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; GESIS - Leibniz Institute for the Social Sciences&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; Information Processes in the Social Sciences (IPS)&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; Lennéstr. 30, D-53113 Bonn&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; Tel: + 49 (0) 228 / 22 81-145&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; Fax: + 49 (0) 228 / 22 81-121&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; Web: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.gesis.org&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.gesis.org&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; Professor for Applied Informatics in the Social Sciences&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; University of Koblenz-Landau&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; WeST - Institute for Web Science and Technologies&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; Universitaetsstr. 1, D-56070 Koblenz&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt; Web: &lt;a href=&quot;http://west.uni-koblenz.de&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://west.uni-koblenz.de&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
--&lt;br&gt;
Bernard Vatant&lt;br&gt;
Senior Consultant&lt;br&gt;
Vocabulary &amp;amp; Data Engineering&lt;br&gt;
Tel:       +33 (0) 971 488 459&lt;br&gt;
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26527477</id>
	<title>AW: TheSoz available in SKOS and SPARQL</title>
	<published>2009-11-26T02:33:31Z</published>
	<updated>2009-11-26T02:33:31Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Zapilko, Benjamin</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Dear Bernard,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;just leave your email-address in the form and the download will work :-)
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Cheers,
&lt;br&gt;Ben
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
&lt;br&gt;Von: &lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26527477&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;public-esw-thes-request@...&lt;/a&gt; im Auftrag von Bernard Vatant
&lt;br&gt;Gesendet: Do 26.11.2009 09:44
&lt;br&gt;An: Sure, York
&lt;br&gt;Cc: public-esw-thes
&lt;br&gt;Betreff: Re: TheSoz available in SKOS and SPARQL
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;York
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Great news ... but the &amp;quot;download&amp;quot; button brings me back to the top of the
&lt;br&gt;page :(
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Bernard
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;2009/11/26 Sure, York &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26527477&amp;i=1&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;york.sure@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&lt;div class='shrinkable-quote'&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Dear SKOS-lovers,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; the Thesaurus for the Social Sciences (TheSoz) is an interconnected
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; vocabulary in English and German on the social sciences, which contains
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; about 11,600 entries and covers topics of all social science disciplines and
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; related or interdisciplinary connected topics. Its publication aims at
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; providing a vocabulary for resources relevant for or related to the social
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; sciences on the web of Linked Open Data.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; The thesaurus is maintained by the GESIS - Leibniz Institute for the Social
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Sciences and is published under a Creative Commons (by-nc-nd) license.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; It is published as a SKOS RDF/XML dump version which can be downloaded at &amp;lt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.gesis.org/en/services/tools-standards/social-science-thesaurus/&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.gesis.org/en/services/tools-standards/social-science-thesaurus/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt;.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; (Please scroll down the page!)
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; The thesaurus is furthermore available via a SPARQL endpoint at &amp;lt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://multiweb.gesis.org/thesoz/sparql&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://multiweb.gesis.org/thesoz/sparql&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; This is a very early version (v0.2) and we're looking forward to get some
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; feedback for future improvements.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Further details about the conversion of the TheSoz to SKOS can be found in
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; the GESIS technical report 2009/07, available at &amp;lt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.gesis.org/fileadmin/upload/forschung/publikationen/gesis_reihen/gesis_methodenberichte/2009/TechnicalReport_09_07.pdf&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.gesis.org/fileadmin/upload/forschung/publikationen/gesis_reihen/gesis_methodenberichte/2009/TechnicalReport_09_07.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt;.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Kind regards,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; York Sure and Benjamin Zapilko
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; --
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Prof. Dr. York Sure
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Scientific Director
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; GESIS - Leibniz Institute for the Social Sciences
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Information Processes in the Social Sciences (IPS)
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Lennéstr. 30, D-53113 Bonn
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Tel: + 49 (0) 228 / 22 81-145
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Fax: + 49 (0) 228 / 22 81-121
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Web: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.gesis.org&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.gesis.org&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Professor for Applied Informatics in the Social Sciences
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; University of Koblenz-Landau
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; WeST - Institute for Web Science and Technologies
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Universitaetsstr. 1, D-56070 Koblenz
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Web: &lt;a href=&quot;http://west.uni-koblenz.de&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://west.uni-koblenz.de&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;-- 
&lt;br&gt;Bernard Vatant
&lt;br&gt;Senior Consultant
&lt;br&gt;Vocabulary &amp; Data Engineering
&lt;br&gt;Tel: &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; +33 (0) 971 488 459
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26526148</id>
	<title>Re: TheSoz available in SKOS and SPARQL</title>
	<published>2009-11-26T00:44:00Z</published>
	<updated>2009-11-26T00:44:00Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Bernard Vatant</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">York&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Great news ... but the &amp;quot;download&amp;quot; button brings me back to the top of the page :(&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Bernard&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;gmail_quote&quot;&gt;2009/11/26 Sure, York &lt;span dir=&quot;ltr&quot;&gt;&amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26526148&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;york.sure@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br&gt;
&lt;blockquote class=&quot;gmail_quote&quot; style=&quot;border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;&quot;&gt;Dear SKOS-lovers,&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
the Thesaurus for the Social Sciences (TheSoz) is an interconnected vocabulary in English and German on the social sciences, which contains about 11,600 entries and covers topics of all social science disciplines and related or interdisciplinary connected topics. Its publication aims at providing a vocabulary for resources relevant for or related to the social sciences on the web of Linked Open Data.&lt;br&gt;

&lt;br&gt;
The thesaurus is maintained by the GESIS - Leibniz Institute for the Social Sciences and is published under a Creative Commons (by-nc-nd) license.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
It is published as a SKOS RDF/XML dump version which can be downloaded at &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.gesis.org/en/services/tools-standards/social-science-thesaurus/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.gesis.org/en/services/tools-standards/social-science-thesaurus/&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;.&lt;br&gt;

(Please scroll down the page!)&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
The thesaurus is furthermore available via a SPARQL endpoint at &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://multiweb.gesis.org/thesoz/sparql&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://multiweb.gesis.org/thesoz/sparql&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
This is a very early version (v0.2) and we&amp;#39;re looking forward to get some feedback for future improvements.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
Further details about the conversion of the TheSoz to SKOS can be found in the GESIS technical report 2009/07, available at &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.gesis.org/fileadmin/upload/forschung/publikationen/gesis_reihen/gesis_methodenberichte/2009/TechnicalReport_09_07.pdf&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.gesis.org/fileadmin/upload/forschung/publikationen/gesis_reihen/gesis_methodenberichte/2009/TechnicalReport_09_07.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;.&lt;br&gt;

&lt;br&gt;
Kind regards,&lt;br&gt;
York Sure and Benjamin Zapilko&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
--&lt;br&gt;
Prof. Dr. York Sure&lt;br&gt;
Scientific Director&lt;br&gt;
GESIS - Leibniz Institute for the Social Sciences&lt;br&gt;
Information Processes in the Social Sciences (IPS)&lt;br&gt;
Lennéstr. 30, D-53113 Bonn&lt;br&gt;
Tel: + 49 (0) 228 / 22 81-145&lt;br&gt;
Fax: + 49 (0) 228 / 22 81-121&lt;br&gt;
Web: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.gesis.org&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.gesis.org&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
Professor for Applied Informatics in the Social Sciences&lt;br&gt;
University of Koblenz-Landau&lt;br&gt;
WeST - Institute for Web Science and Technologies&lt;br&gt;
Universitaetsstr. 1, D-56070 Koblenz&lt;br&gt;
Web: &lt;a href=&quot;http://west.uni-koblenz.de&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://west.uni-koblenz.de&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26525649</id>
	<title>TheSoz available in SKOS and SPARQL</title>
	<published>2009-11-25T21:59:07Z</published>
	<updated>2009-11-25T21:59:07Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Sure, York</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Dear SKOS-lovers,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;the Thesaurus for the Social Sciences (TheSoz) is an interconnected vocabulary in English and German on the social sciences, which contains about 11,600 entries and covers topics of all social science disciplines and related or interdisciplinary connected topics. Its publication aims at providing a vocabulary for resources relevant for or related to the social sciences on the web of Linked Open Data.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The thesaurus is maintained by the GESIS - Leibniz Institute for the Social Sciences and is published under a Creative Commons (by-nc-nd) license.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It is published as a SKOS RDF/XML dump version which can be downloaded at &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.gesis.org/en/services/tools-standards/social-science-thesaurus/&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.gesis.org/en/services/tools-standards/social-science-thesaurus/&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;. 
&lt;br&gt;(Please scroll down the page!)
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The thesaurus is furthermore available via a SPARQL endpoint at &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://multiweb.gesis.org/thesoz/sparql&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://multiweb.gesis.org/thesoz/sparql&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;This is a very early version (v0.2) and we're looking forward to get some feedback for future improvements.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Further details about the conversion of the TheSoz to SKOS can be found in the GESIS technical report 2009/07, available at &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.gesis.org/fileadmin/upload/forschung/publikationen/gesis_reihen/gesis_methodenberichte/2009/TechnicalReport_09_07.pdf&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.gesis.org/fileadmin/upload/forschung/publikationen/gesis_reihen/gesis_methodenberichte/2009/TechnicalReport_09_07.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Kind regards,
&lt;br&gt;York Sure and Benjamin Zapilko
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;--
&lt;br&gt;Prof. Dr. York Sure
&lt;br&gt;Scientific Director 
&lt;br&gt;GESIS - Leibniz Institute for the Social Sciences
&lt;br&gt;Information Processes in the Social Sciences (IPS)
&lt;br&gt;Lennéstr. 30, D-53113 Bonn
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&lt;br&gt;Web: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.gesis.org&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.gesis.org&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Professor for Applied Informatics in the Social Sciences
&lt;br&gt;University of Koblenz-Landau
&lt;br&gt;WeST - Institute for Web Science and Technologies
&lt;br&gt;Universitaetsstr. 1, D-56070 Koblenz
&lt;br&gt;Web: &lt;a href=&quot;http://west.uni-koblenz.de&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://west.uni-koblenz.de&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;p&gt;From forum: &lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/w3.org---public-esw-thes-f11603.html&quot; embed=&quot;fixTarget[11603]&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; &gt;w3.org - public-esw-thes&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</content>
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26518090</id>
	<title>No Telcons for the remainder of the week</title>
	<published>2009-11-25T10:38:53Z</published>
	<updated>2009-11-25T10:38:53Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>M. Scott Marshall</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">For the sake of clarity, there will be no telcons for Terminology, HCLS, 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; TMO, and Scientific Discourse for the remainder of the week due to the 
&lt;br&gt;Thanksgiving holidays in the U.S.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Cheers,
&lt;br&gt;Scott
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;p&gt;From forum: &lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/w3.org---public-semweb-lifesci-f11621.html&quot; embed=&quot;fixTarget[11621]&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; &gt;w3.org - public-semweb-lifesci&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</content>
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26516496</id>
	<title>Re: LODD Minutes</title>
	<published>2009-11-25T09:04:32Z</published>
	<updated>2009-11-25T09:04:32Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Egon Willighagen-5</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 5:56 PM, Susie Stephens
&lt;br&gt;&amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26516496&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;susie.stephens@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt; wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Minutes from today's LODD call are now available.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://esw.w3.org/topic/HCLSIG/LODD/Meetings/2009-11-25_Conference_Call&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://esw.w3.org/topic/HCLSIG/LODD/Meetings/2009-11-25_Conference_Call&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Did my email of yesterday not reach the list?
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Egon
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;-- 
&lt;br&gt;Post-doc @ Uppsala University
&lt;br&gt;Homepage: &lt;a href=&quot;http://egonw.github.com/&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://egonw.github.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;Blog: &lt;a href=&quot;http://chem-bla-ics.blogspot.com/&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://chem-bla-ics.blogspot.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;PubList: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.citeulike.org/user/egonw/tag/papers&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.citeulike.org/user/egonw/tag/papers&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;p&gt;From forum: &lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/w3.org---public-semweb-lifesci-f11621.html&quot; embed=&quot;fixTarget[11621]&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; &gt;w3.org - public-semweb-lifesci&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</content>
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26516354</id>
	<title>LODD Minutes</title>
	<published>2009-11-25T08:56:38Z</published>
	<updated>2009-11-25T08:56:38Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Susie Stephens-3</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">&lt;div&gt;Minutes from today&amp;#39;s LODD call are now available.&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://esw.w3.org/topic/HCLSIG/LODD/Meetings/2009-11-25_Conference_Call&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://esw.w3.org/topic/HCLSIG/LODD/Meetings/2009-11-25_Conference_Call&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt; &lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;Susie&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;p&gt;From forum: &lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/w3.org---public-semweb-lifesci-f11621.html&quot; embed=&quot;fixTarget[11621]&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; &gt;w3.org - public-semweb-lifesci&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</content>
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26502699</id>
	<title>Re: BioRDF Telcon</title>
	<published>2009-11-24T12:26:09Z</published>
	<updated>2009-11-24T12:26:09Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Kei Cheung</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">mdmiller wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; hi all,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; the MAGE-TAB also can have (and often does) good phenotypic 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; information on the sources (patients, mice, etc) of the samples used 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; plus the experimental factors.
&lt;br&gt;I think it's also important for EFO to be harmonized with existing 
&lt;br&gt;ontologies like the one in NCBO.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Cheers,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;-Kei
&lt;div class='shrinkable-quote'&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; it does typically have the method to process from the raw to the 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; processed data but what i meant was the information on how the 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; normalized processed data was reduced to the gene list.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; cheers,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; michael
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; ----- Original Message -----
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; *From:* Helena Deus &amp;lt;mailto:&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26502699&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;helenadeus@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; *To:* mdmiller &amp;lt;mailto:&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26502699&amp;i=1&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;mdmiller53@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; *Cc:* Kei Cheung &amp;lt;mailto:&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26502699&amp;i=2&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;kei.cheung@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt; ; HCLS
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;mailto:&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26502699&amp;i=3&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;public-semweb-lifesci@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; *Sent:* Tuesday, November 24, 2009 10:06 AM
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; *Subject:* Re: BioRDF Telcon
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; Hi all,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; I apologize for missing the call yesterday! It seems you had a
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; pretty interesting discussion! :-)
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; If I understand Michael's statement, parsing the MAGE-TAB/MAGE-ML
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; into RDF would result in obtaining only the raw and processed data
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; files but not the mechanism used to process it nor the resulting
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; gene list. That's also what I concluded after looking at the data
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; structure created by Tony Burdett's Limpopo parser. 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; However, having the raw data as linked data is already a great
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; start! Kei, should I be looking into Taverna in order to
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; reprocessed the raw files with a traceable analysis workflow?
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; Thanks!
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; Lena
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 9:59 AM, mdmiller &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26502699&amp;i=4&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;mdmiller53@...&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;mailto:&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26502699&amp;i=5&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;mdmiller53@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; hi all,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; (from the minutes)
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;quot;Yolanda/Kei/Scott: semantic annotation/description of
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; workflow would enable the retrieval of data relevant to that
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; workflow (i.e. data that could be used to populate that
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; workflow for a different experimental scenario)&amp;quot;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; what is typically in a MAGE-TAB/MAGE-ML document are the
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; protocols for how the source was processed into the extract
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; then how the hybridization, feature extraction, error and
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; normalization were performed. &amp;nbsp;these are interesting and
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; different protocols can cause differences at this level but it
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; is pretty much a known art and usually not of too much
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; interest or variability.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; what is usually missing from those documents, along with the
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; final gene list, is how that gene list was obtained, what
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; higher level analysis was used, that is generally only in the
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; paper unfortunately.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; cheers,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; michael
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; .
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; ----- Original Message ----- From: &amp;quot;Kei Cheung&amp;quot;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26502699&amp;i=6&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;kei.cheung@...&lt;/a&gt; &amp;lt;mailto:&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26502699&amp;i=7&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;kei.cheung@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; To: &amp;quot;HCLS&amp;quot; &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26502699&amp;i=8&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;public-semweb-lifesci@...&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;mailto:&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26502699&amp;i=9&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;public-semweb-lifesci@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 1:27 PM
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; Subject: Re: BioRDF Telcon
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; Today's BioRDF minutes are available at the following:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &lt;a href=&quot;http://esw.w3.org/topic/HCLSIG_BioRDF_Subgroup/Meetings/2009/11-23_Conference_Call&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://esw.w3.org/topic/HCLSIG_BioRDF_Subgroup/Meetings/2009/11-23_Conference_Call&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; Thanks to Rob for scribing.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; Cheers,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; -Kei
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; Kei Cheung wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; This is a reminder that the next BioRDF telcon call
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; will be held at 11 am EDT (5 pm CET) on Monday,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; November 23 (see details below).
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; Cheers,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; -Kei
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; == Conference Details ==
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; * Date of Call: Monday November 23, 2009
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; * Time of Call: 11:00 am Eastern Time
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; * Dial-In #: +1.617.761.6200 (Cambridge, MA)
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; * Dial-In #: +33.4.89.06.34.99 (Nice, France)
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; * Dial-In #: +44.117.370.6152 (Bristol, UK)
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; * Participant Access Code: 4257 (&amp;quot;HCLS&amp;quot;)
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; * IRC Channel: irc.w3.org &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://irc.w3.org&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://irc.w3.org&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt; port
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26502615</id>
	<title>Re: BioRDF Telcon</title>
	<published>2009-11-24T12:19:21Z</published>
	<updated>2009-11-24T12:19:21Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Kei Cheung</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Hi Lena et al,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;When you said data structure, did you mean the RDF structure. If so, is 
&lt;br&gt;a pointer to the structure that we can look at?
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;As discussed during yesterday's call, Jun and Satya will help create a 
&lt;br&gt;wiki page for listing some of the requirements for provenance/workflow 
&lt;br&gt;in the context of gene lists, perhaps we should also use it to help 
&lt;br&gt;coordinate some of the future activities (people also brought up Taverna 
&lt;br&gt;during the call yesterday). Please coordinate with Satya and Jun.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Cheers,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;-Kei
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Helena Deus wrote:
&lt;div class='shrinkable-quote'&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Hi all,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; I apologize for missing the call yesterday! It seems you had a pretty 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; interesting discussion! :-)
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; If I understand Michael's statement, parsing the MAGE-TAB/MAGE-ML into 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; RDF would result in obtaining only the raw and processed data files 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; but not the mechanism used to process it nor the resulting gene list. 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; That's also what I concluded after looking at the data structure 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; created by Tony Burdett's Limpopo parser. 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; However, having the raw data as linked data is already a great start! 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Kei, should I be looking into Taverna in order to reprocessed the raw 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; files with a traceable analysis workflow?
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Thanks!
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Lena
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 9:59 AM, mdmiller &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26502615&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;mdmiller53@...&lt;/a&gt; 
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&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; hi all,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; (from the minutes)
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;quot;Yolanda/Kei/Scott: semantic annotation/description of workflow
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; would enable the retrieval of data relevant to that workflow (i.e.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; data that could be used to populate that workflow for a different
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; experimental scenario)&amp;quot;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; what is typically in a MAGE-TAB/MAGE-ML document are the protocols
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; for how the source was processed into the extract then how the
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; hybridization, feature extraction, error and normalization were
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; performed. &amp;nbsp;these are interesting and different protocols can
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; cause differences at this level but it is pretty much a known art
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; and usually not of too much interest or variability.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; what is usually missing from those documents, along with the final
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; gene list, is how that gene list was obtained, what higher level
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; analysis was used, that is generally only in the paper unfortunately.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; cheers,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; michael
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; .
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&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; Today's BioRDF minutes are available at the following:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &lt;a href=&quot;http://esw.w3.org/topic/HCLSIG_BioRDF_Subgroup/Meetings/2009/11-23_Conference_Call&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://esw.w3.org/topic/HCLSIG_BioRDF_Subgroup/Meetings/2009/11-23_Conference_Call&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; Thanks to Rob for scribing.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; Cheers,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; -Kei
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; Kei Cheung wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; This is a reminder that the next BioRDF telcon call will
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; be held at 11 am EDT (5 pm CET) on Monday, November 23
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; (see details below).
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; Cheers,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; -Kei
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; == Conference Details ==
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26502592</id>
	<title>Re: BioRDF Telcon</title>
	<published>2009-11-24T12:16:57Z</published>
	<updated>2009-11-24T12:16:57Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Kei Cheung</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Hi Michael et al,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Thanks for pointing out the kind of metadata captured in MAGE-TAB. Yes, 
&lt;br&gt;we have discussed what kind of semantic information might be needed for 
&lt;br&gt;describing gene lists. In addition to recording how the gene lists were 
&lt;br&gt;obtained, we might need to keep track of how these gene lists might be 
&lt;br&gt;used by other people (beyond the paper).
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Cheers,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;-Kei
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;mdmiller wrote:
&lt;div class='shrinkable-quote'&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; hi all,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; (from the minutes)
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;quot;Yolanda/Kei/Scott: semantic annotation/description of workflow would 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; enable the retrieval of data relevant to that workflow (i.e. data that 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; could be used to populate that workflow for a different experimental 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; scenario)&amp;quot;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; what is typically in a MAGE-TAB/MAGE-ML document are the protocols for 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; how the source was processed into the extract then how the 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; hybridization, feature extraction, error and normalization were 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; performed. &amp;nbsp;these are interesting and different protocols can cause 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; differences at this level but it is pretty much a known art and 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; usually not of too much interest or variability.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; what is usually missing from those documents, along with the final 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; gene list, is how that gene list was obtained, what higher level 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; analysis was used, that is generally only in the paper unfortunately.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; cheers,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; michael
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; .
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; ----- Original Message ----- From: &amp;quot;Kei Cheung&amp;quot; &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26502592&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;kei.cheung@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;
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&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 1:27 PM
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Subject: Re: BioRDF Telcon
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Today's BioRDF minutes are available at the following:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://esw.w3.org/topic/HCLSIG_BioRDF_Subgroup/Meetings/2009/11-23_Conference_Call&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://esw.w3.org/topic/HCLSIG_BioRDF_Subgroup/Meetings/2009/11-23_Conference_Call&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Thanks to Rob for scribing.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Cheers,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; -Kei
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Kei Cheung wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; This is a reminder that the next BioRDF telcon call will be held at 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; 11 am EDT (5 pm CET) on Monday, November 23 (see details below).
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Cheers,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; -Kei
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; == Conference Details ==
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; * Date of Call: Monday November 23, 2009
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; * Time of Call: 11:00 am Eastern Time
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&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; * IRC Channel: irc.w3.org port 6665 channel #HCLS (see W3C IRC page 
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&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mibbit.com/chat/?server=irc.w3.org:6665&amp;channel=%23hcls&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.mibbit.com/chat/?server=irc.w3.org:6665&amp;channel=%23hcls&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; for IRC access.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; * Duration: ~1 hour
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; * Frequency: bi-weekly
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; * Convener: Kei Cheung
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; * Scribe: to-be-determined
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&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; * Roll call &amp; introduction (Kei)
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; * RDF representation of microarray experiment and data (All)
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; * Provenance and workflow (All)
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	<title>Re: Differentially Expressed Gene Lists</title>
	<published>2009-11-24T12:16:47Z</published>
	<updated>2009-11-24T12:16:47Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Kei Cheung</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Hi Misha and All,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I believe there is a complementary relationship between paper-based gene 
&lt;br&gt;lists and the gene lists produced by Atlas. Different methods may 
&lt;br&gt;produce different lists of genes (there should be some overlap though) 
&lt;br&gt;for the same experiment. It's good to consider the possibility of 
&lt;br&gt;integrating GeneSigDB and Atlas. I also believe SDA is complementary to 
&lt;br&gt;the paper-based approach and database approach. It is a 
&lt;br&gt;practice/framework recommended for authors/editors to enter things like 
&lt;br&gt;gene lists in a machine readable format. FEBS Letters (published by 
&lt;br&gt;Elsevier) has experimented with SDA. That's why I wonder if a similar 
&lt;br&gt;experiment can be done for gene lists.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Cheers
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;-Kei
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;Misha &amp;nbsp;Kapushesky wrote:
&lt;div class='shrinkable-quote'&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Hi,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Just to add to what Michael said, I will be in Boston around Christmas
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; and one of the goals of this visit is to talk to the GeneSigDB guys
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; about integrating it somehow with our Atlas, as gene list/signature
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; curation is something a lot of our users demand frequently.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Cheers,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Misha
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 9:08 PM, Kei Cheung &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26502593&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;kei.cheung@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt; wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Since there seems to be an interest in exploring how to represent
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; differentially expressed gene list, I'm cc'ing this to the HCLS list (Scott
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; also suggested doing this). In addition to Michael's suggestion (see below),
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; the following is a reference to Structured Digital Abstract (SDA) for those
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; who are interested.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v447/n7141/full/447142a.html&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v447/n7141/full/447142a.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Cheers,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; -Kei
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; mdmiller wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; hi all,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; SDA does sound useful but it still has the hurdle that the writers of the
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; abstract need to be aware and care to use such structures or someone else
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; needs to add such structure afterwards.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; as i mentioned at the F2F, there is GeneSigDB [1] hosted at dana farber,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; which is curating gene lists from papers. &amp;nbsp;this is very useful in that it
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; pulls out into a structured database the genes of interest from papers but
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; has the limitation that it doesn't provide the signatures of interest.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; there is also the matter of the algorithm that, given a new gene
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; expression profile, provides a score as to inclusion or exclusion from the
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; biomarker. i'm not a bioinformaticists but my understanding is such
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; algorithms may depend on more than just the signatures, they might depend on
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; the values of some higher level algorithm, i.e. there may not be one size
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; fits all algorithms to determine membership.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; i also won't be able to make the call.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; cheers,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; michael
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; [1]: &lt;a href=&quot;http://compbio.dfci.harvard.edu/genesigdb/&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://compbio.dfci.harvard.edu/genesigdb/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Michael Miller
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26502593&amp;i=1&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;mdmiller53@...&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; ----- Original Message ----- From: &amp;quot;Helen Parkinson&amp;quot; &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26502593&amp;i=2&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;parkinson@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; To: &amp;quot;Kei Cheung&amp;quot; &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26502593&amp;i=3&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;kei.cheung@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Cc: &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26502593&amp;i=4&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;marshall@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;; &amp;quot;mdmiller&amp;quot; &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26502593&amp;i=5&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;mdmiller53@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;; &amp;quot;Misha
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Kapushesky&amp;quot; &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26502593&amp;i=6&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;ostolop@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;; &amp;quot;Eric Prud'hommeaux&amp;quot; &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26502593&amp;i=7&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;eric@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;quot;Matthias Samwald&amp;quot; &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26502593&amp;i=8&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;samwald@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 5:58 AM
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Subject: Re: Differentially Expressed Gene Lists
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; I should have read the spec for the SDA. Sounds useful.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Kei Cheung wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Helen Parkinson wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; I've been wondering how structured digital abstract (SDA) can be
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; applied to gene lists. There has been a pilot application of SDA by FEBS in
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; terms of interactions with links to MINT. Perhaps, a similar thing can be
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; done for gene lists with links to databases like ArrayExpress and GEO. Mark
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Gerstein and I are working on a paper describing some extension of SDA
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; (Matthias is also a co-author).
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Gene lists don't really appear in abstracts either often, one or two
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; genes of interest are mentioned. I'd be happy to take a look at a subset of
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; papers though to confirm/deny this. If that would help
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Many people misunderstood that structured digital abstract applies only
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; to abstracts (I know the name is misleading unforunately), it can be applied
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; to representing key findings described in the paper. The abstract I'm
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; looking at is the following:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16242812&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16242812&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; It mentions explicitly that one of the key findings is a differently
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; gene list of 225 genes across different conditions. Four of the validated
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; genes are also mentioned in the abstract:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; apolipoprotein J, interleukin-1 receptor-associated kinase 1, tissue
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; inhibitor of metalloproteinase 3, and casein kinase 2, beta.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; The job of creating an OWL/RDF representation of microarray
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; experiement results should *start* with differentially expressed genes and
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; experimental conditions. I would hope that it doesn't start with text mining
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; ill-defined text sources (such as figures). On the bright side, if the
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; experiment of interest is included in Gene Expression Atlas, we are all set,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; right? We just need a way to export the RDF.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; I'm planning &amp;nbsp;to give a short presentation including an example during
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; the BioRDF call tomorrow.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; I'll miss this unfortunately, as will Misha. Yes, if the experiment is
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; in Atlas we can now export rdf and we have a prototype working.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Look forward to seeing the protoype. SDA can be seen as a bridge between
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; databases and literature. It fits both bottom-up and top-down approach.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; BTW, I've pasted Kei's reminder below for the next BioRDF call
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; (tomorrow). It would be great if you could call in and help us to figure
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; this out.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Apologies, I have 30 days holiday to use before the end of the year, so
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; I won't make this.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Have a good vacation.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; -Kei
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Cheers,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Scott
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; n.b. Does anybody mind if I post this to the mailing list?
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; It's fine with me if people think nothing is controversal or premature
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; here. :-)
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Cheers,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; -Kei
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; -------------------------------------------------------------------------
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; This is a reminder that the next BioRDF telcon call will be held at
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; 11 am EDT (5 pm CET) on Monday, November 23 (see details below).
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Cheers,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; -Kei
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; == Conference Details ==
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; * Date of Call: Monday November 23, 2009
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; * Time of Call: 11:00 am Eastern Time
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; * Dial-In #: +1.617.761.6200 (Cambridge, MA)
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; * Dial-In #: +33.4.89.06.34.99 (Nice, France)
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; * Dial-In #: +44.117.370.6152 (Bristol, UK)
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; * Participant Access Code: 4257 (&amp;quot;HCLS&amp;quot;)
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; * IRC Channel: irc.w3.org port 6665 channel #HCLS (see W3C IRC page
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; for details, or see Web IRC), Quick Start: Use
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mibbit.com/chat/?server=irc.w3.org:6665&amp;channel=%23hcls&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.mibbit.com/chat/?server=irc.w3.org:6665&amp;channel=%23hcls&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;for IRC
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; access.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; * Duration: ~1 hour
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; * Frequency: bi-weekly
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; * Convener: Kei Cheung
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; * Scribe: to-be-determined
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; == Agenda ==
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; * Roll call &amp; introduction (Kei)
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; * RDF representation of microarray experiment and data (All)
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; * Provenance and workflow (All)
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; mdmiller wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; hi scott,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; typically it will not, the data will be the raw data, usually in
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; the format from the feature extractor at the feature/spot level and then the
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; error corrected and normalized data at the sequence/gene/transcript level.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp;one could include the final gene list in the MAGE-TAB by adding the
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; appropriate columns to the MAGE-TAB and have the Derived Data File column
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; contain the name of the appropriate file but in general the gene list is
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; only in the paper, often as supplemental data. &amp;nbsp;in fact i can't think of a
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; single case where it is included, helen, can you?
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; cheers,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; michael
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; ----- Original Message ----- From: &amp;quot;M. Scott Marshall&amp;quot;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26502593&amp;i=9&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;marshall@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; To: &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26502593&amp;i=10&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;mdmiller53@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Cc: &amp;quot;kc28&amp;quot; &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26502593&amp;i=11&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;kei.cheung@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 6:50 PM
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Subject: BioRDF
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Hi Michael,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; One of the things that has come up during the BioRDF call is &amp;quot;we
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; need to confirm whether MAGE-TAB contains gene lists or not&amp;quot;. In other
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; words, we will need to represent gene lists in RDF.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Ok, my quick interpretation between other things,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Scott
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; --
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; M. Scott Marshall
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Leiden University Medical Center / University of Amsterdam
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://staff.science.uva.nl/~marshall&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://staff.science.uva.nl/~marshall&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; --
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Helen Parkinson, PhD
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; ArrayExpress Production Coordinator,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Microarray Informatics Team, EBI
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; EBI 01223 494672
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Skype: helen.parkinson.ebi
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; 
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;p&gt;From forum: &lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/w3.org---public-semweb-lifesci-f11621.html&quot; embed=&quot;fixTarget[11621]&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; &gt;w3.org - public-semweb-lifesci&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</content>
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26501145</id>
	<title>Re: SKOS support in Drupal</title>
	<published>2009-11-24T10:31:33Z</published>
	<updated>2009-11-24T10:31:33Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>John Graybeal-3</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">There is another way in which this is key. &amp;nbsp;For those of us who have &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;both a Drupal site and an ontology repository they like to use -- hmm, &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;maybe MMI is the only one like that has both, but you could use &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;*anyone's* repository -- this is very powerful. &amp;nbsp;We can manage the &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;Drupal taxonomies using the repository (or can at least export the &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;Drupal taxonomies to the repository).
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;So our community's work developing ontology and metadata &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;classification systems for our Drupal site can be exported to the &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;publicly visible list of community vocabularies, instead of being &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;hidden behind Drupal. &amp;nbsp;Generalizing this, imagine if the &lt;a href=&quot;http://metadataregistry.org&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://metadataregistry.org&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; site contained all the classification systems that were used to &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;organize various Drupal sites -- now you have exposed a collection of &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;vocabularies that have been thought about and used to classify &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;content, which is a pretty powerful resource.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I'm not sure what the 'minimum criteria' are for a vocabulary to be &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;SKOS, we have a lot of OWL-DL vocabularies on the MMI ontology site &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;[1]. &amp;nbsp;Few of them will be of a scope worth packaging with the system, &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;though, they're mostly about science stuff.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;John
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;[1] MMI Ontology Registry: &lt;a href=&quot;http://mmisw.org/or&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://mmisw.org/or&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;On Nov 24, 2009, at 02:45, Dan Morrison wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;div class='shrinkable-quote'&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Thanks Sean, that's definitely the sort of list I'm looking for. My &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; browser history indicates I've found a *few* of them before. (and &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; many more are defunct, damn)
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; I still can't see any that will empower a killer app for the social, &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 2.0 or &amp;quot;semantic&amp;quot; web. I've found lists of economic terminology, but &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; to sell it as an enhancement to a CMS, I need things more &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; accessible, something that a blogger, marketer, corporate or &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; institution would want to use to enhance the metadata of their &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; readable content, not just academic data dumps.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; The broadest re-usable source I've found so far is MeSH which grew &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; up to support PUBMed (I think). But it's not SKOS. So if there were &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; a SKOS resource that was in any way authoritative, and not just a &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; proof-of-concept, I'd love to link right in and embed it. &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; (taxonomy_xml for the Drupal CMS is designed to feed from published &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; external sources, it's not distributed with data itself (beyond &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; samples).
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;John Graybeal &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;mailto:&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26501145&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;jgraybeal@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;phone: 858-534-2162
&lt;br&gt;Development Manager
&lt;br&gt;Ocean Observatories Initiative Cyberinfrastructure Project: &lt;a href=&quot;http://ci.oceanobservatories.org&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://ci.oceanobservatories.org&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;Marine Metadata Interoperability Project: &lt;a href=&quot;http://marinemetadata.org&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://marinemetadata.org&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;p&gt;From forum: &lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/w3.org---public-esw-thes-f11603.html&quot; embed=&quot;fixTarget[11603]&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; &gt;w3.org - public-esw-thes&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</content>
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26500943</id>
	<title>Re: BioRDF Telcon</title>
	<published>2009-11-24T10:19:16Z</published>
	<updated>2009-11-24T10:19:16Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>mdmiller-2</name>
	</author>
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&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT size=2 face=Arial&gt;hi all,&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;
&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT size=2 face=Arial&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;
&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT size=2 face=Arial&gt;the MAGE-TAB also can have (and often does) good 
phenotypic information on the sources (patients, mice, etc) of the samples used 
plus the experimental factors.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;
&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT size=2 face=Arial&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;
&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT size=2 face=Arial&gt;it does typically have the method to process from 
the raw to the processed data but what i meant was the information on how the 
normalized processed data was reduced to the gene list.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;
&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT size=2 face=Arial&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;
&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT size=2 face=Arial&gt;cheers,&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;
&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT size=2 face=Arial&gt;michael&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;
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  AM&lt;/DIV&gt;
  &lt;DIV style=&quot;FONT: 10pt arial&quot;&gt;&lt;B&gt;Subject:&lt;/B&gt; Re: BioRDF Telcon&lt;/DIV&gt;
  &lt;DIV&gt;&lt;BR&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;Hi all,
  &lt;DIV&gt;&lt;BR&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;
  &lt;DIV&gt;I apologize for missing the call yesterday! It seems you had a pretty 
  interesting discussion! :-)&lt;/DIV&gt;
  &lt;DIV&gt;If I understand Michael's statement, parsing the MAGE-TAB/MAGE-ML into 
  RDF would result in obtaining only the raw and processed data files but not 
  the mechanism used to process it nor the resulting gene list. That's also what 
  I concluded after looking at the data structure created by Tony Burdett's 
  Limpopo parser.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;
  &lt;DIV&gt;However, having the raw data as linked data is already a great start! 
  Kei, should I be looking into Taverna in order to reprocessed the raw files 
  with a traceable analysis workflow?&lt;/DIV&gt;
  &lt;DIV&gt;&lt;BR&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;
  &lt;DIV&gt;Thanks!&lt;/DIV&gt;
  &lt;DIV&gt;Lena&lt;/DIV&gt;
  &lt;DIV&gt;&lt;BR&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;
  &lt;DIV&gt;&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;
  &lt;DIV class=gmail_quote&gt;On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 9:59 AM, mdmiller &lt;SPAN dir=ltr&gt;&amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26500943&amp;i=4&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;mdmiller53@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt; wrote:&lt;BR&gt;
  &lt;BLOCKQUOTE style=&quot;BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; PADDING-LEFT: 1ex&quot; class=gmail_quote&gt;hi all,&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;(from the 
    minutes)&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;&quot;Yolanda/Kei/Scott: semantic annotation/description of 
    workflow would enable the retrieval of data relevant to that workflow (i.e. 
    data that could be used to populate that workflow for a different 
    experimental scenario)&quot;&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;what is typically in a MAGE-TAB/MAGE-ML 
    document are the protocols for how the source was processed into the extract 
    then how the hybridization, feature extraction, error and normalization were 
    performed. &amp;nbsp;these are interesting and different protocols can cause 
    differences at this level but it is pretty much a known art and usually not 
    of too much interest or variability.&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;what is usually missing from 
    those documents, along with the final gene list, is how that gene list was 
    obtained, what higher level analysis was used, that is generally only in the 
    paper unfortunately.&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;cheers,&lt;BR&gt;michael&lt;BR&gt;.&lt;BR&gt;----- Original 
    Message ----- From: &quot;Kei Cheung&quot; &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26500943&amp;i=5&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;kei.cheung@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;&lt;BR&gt;To: &quot;HCLS&quot; &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26500943&amp;i=6&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;public-semweb-lifesci@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;&lt;BR&gt;Sent: Monday, November 
    23, 2009 1:27 PM&lt;BR&gt;Subject: Re: BioRDF Telcon
    &lt;DIV&gt;
    &lt;DIV&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;
    &lt;DIV&gt;&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;
    &lt;BLOCKQUOTE style=&quot;BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; PADDING-LEFT: 1ex&quot; class=gmail_quote&gt;Today's BioRDF minutes are available at the 
      following:&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;&lt;A href=&quot;http://esw.w3.org/topic/HCLSIG_BioRDF_Subgroup/Meetings/2009/11-23_Conference_Call&quot; target=_blank rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://esw.w3.org/topic/HCLSIG_BioRDF_Subgroup/Meetings/2009/11-23_Conference_Call&lt;/A&gt;&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;Thanks 
      to Rob for scribing.&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;Cheers,&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;-Kei&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;Kei Cheung 
      wrote:&lt;BR&gt;
      &lt;BLOCKQUOTE style=&quot;BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; PADDING-LEFT: 1ex&quot; class=gmail_quote&gt;This is a reminder that the next BioRDF telcon call 
        will be held at 11 am EDT (5 pm CET) on Monday, November 23 (see details 
        below).&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;Cheers,&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;-Kei&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;== Conference Details ==&lt;BR&gt;* 
        Date of Call: Monday November 23, 2009&lt;BR&gt;* Time of Call: 11:00 am 
        Eastern Time&lt;BR&gt;* Dial-In #: +1.617.761.6200 (Cambridge, MA)&lt;BR&gt;* 
        Dial-In #: +33.4.89.06.34.99 (Nice, France)&lt;BR&gt;* Dial-In #: 
        +44.117.370.6152 (Bristol, UK)&lt;BR&gt;* Participant Access Code: 4257 
        (&quot;HCLS&quot;)&lt;BR&gt;* IRC Channel: &lt;A href=&quot;http://irc.w3.org&quot; target=_blank rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;irc.w3.org&lt;/A&gt; port 6665 channel #HCLS (see W3C IRC page 
        for details, or see Web IRC), Quick Start: Use &lt;A href=&quot;http://www.mibbit.com/chat/?server=irc.w3.org:6665&amp;amp;channel=%23hcls&quot; target=_blank rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.mibbit.com/chat/?server=irc.w3.org:6665&amp;amp;channel=%23hcls&lt;/A&gt; 
        for IRC access.&lt;BR&gt;* Duration: ~1 hour&lt;BR&gt;* Frequency: bi-weekly&lt;BR&gt;* 
        Convener: Kei Cheung&lt;BR&gt;* Scribe: to-be-determined&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;== Agenda 
        ==&lt;BR&gt;* Roll call &amp;amp; introduction (Kei)&lt;BR&gt;* RDF representation of 
        microarray experiment and data (All)&lt;BR&gt;* Provenance and workflow 
        (All)&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;BR&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26500737</id>
	<title>Re: BioRDF Telcon</title>
	<published>2009-11-24T10:06:29Z</published>
	<updated>2009-11-24T10:06:29Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Helena Deus</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Hi all,&lt;div&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;I apologize for missing the call yesterday! It seems you had a pretty interesting discussion! :-)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;If I understand Michael&amp;#39;s statement, parsing the MAGE-TAB/MAGE-ML into RDF would result in obtaining only the raw and processed data files but not the mechanism used to process it nor the resulting gene list. That&amp;#39;s also what I concluded after looking at the data structure created by Tony Burdett&amp;#39;s Limpopo parser. &lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;However, having the raw data as linked data is already a great start! Kei, should I be looking into Taverna in order to reprocessed the raw files with a traceable analysis workflow?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Thanks!&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;Lena&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/div&gt;

&lt;div&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;gmail_quote&quot;&gt;On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 9:59 AM, mdmiller &lt;span dir=&quot;ltr&quot;&gt;&amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26500737&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;mdmiller53@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;&lt;/span&gt; wrote:&lt;br&gt;&lt;blockquote class=&quot;gmail_quote&quot; style=&quot;margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex&quot;&gt;


hi all,&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
(from the minutes)&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
&amp;quot;Yolanda/Kei/Scott: semantic annotation/description of workflow would enable the retrieval of data relevant to that workflow (i.e. data that could be used to populate that workflow for a different experimental scenario)&amp;quot;&lt;br&gt;



&lt;br&gt;
what is typically in a MAGE-TAB/MAGE-ML document are the protocols for how the source was processed into the extract then how the hybridization, feature extraction, error and normalization were performed.  these are interesting and different protocols can cause differences at this level but it is pretty much a known art and usually not of too much interest or variability.&lt;br&gt;



&lt;br&gt;
what is usually missing from those documents, along with the final gene list, is how that gene list was obtained, what higher level analysis was used, that is generally only in the paper unfortunately.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
cheers,&lt;br&gt;
michael&lt;br&gt;
.&lt;br&gt;
----- Original Message ----- From: &amp;quot;Kei Cheung&amp;quot; &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26500737&amp;i=1&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;kei.cheung@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;&lt;br&gt;
To: &amp;quot;HCLS&amp;quot; &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26500737&amp;i=2&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;public-semweb-lifesci@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;&lt;br&gt;
Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 1:27 PM&lt;br&gt;
Subject: Re: BioRDF Telcon&lt;div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
&lt;blockquote class=&quot;gmail_quote&quot; style=&quot;margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex&quot;&gt;
Today&amp;#39;s BioRDF minutes are available at the following:&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://esw.w3.org/topic/HCLSIG_BioRDF_Subgroup/Meetings/2009/11-23_Conference_Call&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://esw.w3.org/topic/HCLSIG_BioRDF_Subgroup/Meetings/2009/11-23_Conference_Call&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
Thanks to Rob for scribing.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
Cheers,&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
-Kei&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
Kei Cheung wrote:&lt;br&gt;
&lt;blockquote class=&quot;gmail_quote&quot; style=&quot;margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex&quot;&gt;
This is a reminder that the next BioRDF telcon call will be held at 11 am EDT (5 pm CET) on Monday, November 23 (see details below).&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
Cheers,&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
-Kei&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
== Conference Details ==&lt;br&gt;
* Date of Call: Monday November 23, 2009&lt;br&gt;
* Time of Call: 11:00 am Eastern Time&lt;br&gt;
* Dial-In #: +1.617.761.6200 (Cambridge, MA)&lt;br&gt;
* Dial-In #: +33.4.89.06.34.99 (Nice, France)&lt;br&gt;
* Dial-In #: +44.117.370.6152 (Bristol, UK)&lt;br&gt;
* Participant Access Code: 4257 (&amp;quot;HCLS&amp;quot;)&lt;br&gt;
* IRC Channel: &lt;a href=&quot;http://irc.w3.org&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;irc.w3.org&lt;/a&gt; port 6665 channel #HCLS (see W3C IRC page for details, or see Web IRC), Quick Start: Use &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mibbit.com/chat/?server=irc.w3.org:6665&amp;amp;channel=%23hcls&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.mibbit.com/chat/?server=irc.w3.org:6665&amp;amp;channel=%23hcls&lt;/a&gt; for IRC access.&lt;br&gt;



* Duration: ~1 hour&lt;br&gt;
* Frequency: bi-weekly&lt;br&gt;
* Convener: Kei Cheung&lt;br&gt;
* Scribe: to-be-determined&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
== Agenda ==&lt;br&gt;
* Roll call &amp;amp; introduction (Kei)&lt;br&gt;
* RDF representation of microarray experiment and data (All)&lt;br&gt;
* Provenance and workflow (All)&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26498597</id>
	<title>Re: BioRDF Telcon</title>
	<published>2009-11-24T07:59:37Z</published>
	<updated>2009-11-24T07:59:37Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>mdmiller-2</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">hi all,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;(from the minutes)
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;quot;Yolanda/Kei/Scott: semantic annotation/description of workflow would enable 
&lt;br&gt;the retrieval of data relevant to that workflow (i.e. data that could be 
&lt;br&gt;used to populate that workflow for a different experimental scenario)&amp;quot;
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;what is typically in a MAGE-TAB/MAGE-ML document are the protocols for how 
&lt;br&gt;the source was processed into the extract then how the hybridization, 
&lt;br&gt;feature extraction, error and normalization were performed. &amp;nbsp;these are 
&lt;br&gt;interesting and different protocols can cause differences at this level but 
&lt;br&gt;it is pretty much a known art and usually not of too much interest or 
&lt;br&gt;variability.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;what is usually missing from those documents, along with the final gene 
&lt;br&gt;list, is how that gene list was obtained, what higher level analysis was 
&lt;br&gt;used, that is generally only in the paper unfortunately.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;cheers,
&lt;br&gt;michael
&lt;br&gt;.
&lt;br&gt;----- Original Message ----- 
&lt;br&gt;From: &amp;quot;Kei Cheung&amp;quot; &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26498597&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;kei.cheung@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;To: &amp;quot;HCLS&amp;quot; &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26498597&amp;i=1&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;public-semweb-lifesci@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 1:27 PM
&lt;br&gt;Subject: Re: BioRDF Telcon
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;div class='shrinkable-quote'&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Today's BioRDF minutes are available at the following:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://esw.w3.org/topic/HCLSIG_BioRDF_Subgroup/Meetings/2009/11-23_Conference_Call&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://esw.w3.org/topic/HCLSIG_BioRDF_Subgroup/Meetings/2009/11-23_Conference_Call&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Thanks to Rob for scribing.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Cheers,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; -Kei
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Kei Cheung wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; This is a reminder that the next BioRDF telcon call will be held at 11 am 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; EDT (5 pm CET) on Monday, November 23 (see details below).
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Cheers,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; -Kei
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; == Conference Details ==
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; * Date of Call: Monday November 23, 2009
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; * Time of Call: 11:00 am Eastern Time
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; * Dial-In #: +1.617.761.6200 (Cambridge, MA)
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; * Dial-In #: +33.4.89.06.34.99 (Nice, France)
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; * Dial-In #: +44.117.370.6152 (Bristol, UK)
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; * Participant Access Code: 4257 (&amp;quot;HCLS&amp;quot;)
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; * IRC Channel: irc.w3.org port 6665 channel #HCLS (see W3C IRC page for 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; details, or see Web IRC), Quick Start: Use 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mibbit.com/chat/?server=irc.w3.org:6665&amp;channel=%23hcls&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.mibbit.com/chat/?server=irc.w3.org:6665&amp;channel=%23hcls&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;for 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; IRC access.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; * Duration: ~1 hour
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; * Frequency: bi-weekly
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; * Convener: Kei Cheung
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; * Scribe: to-be-determined
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; == Agenda ==
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; * Roll call &amp; introduction (Kei)
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; * RDF representation of microarray experiment and data (All)
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; * Provenance and workflow (All)
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26496260</id>
	<title>Re: SKOS support in Drupal</title>
	<published>2009-11-24T05:42:07Z</published>
	<updated>2009-11-24T05:42:07Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Diane I. Hillmann</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Dan Morrison wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; If anyone can link to a SKOS file that represents a glossary, 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; taxonomy, or restricted vocabulary in any useful field, I can point 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; the machine at it and see what happens. So far results have been 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; surprisingly good, but I'm sure that some tuning may be needed if I 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; feed it enough astual data.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;Dan, check out &lt;a href=&quot;http://metadataregistry.org&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://metadataregistry.org&lt;/a&gt;. &amp;nbsp;Everything behind the 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;quot;vocabularies&amp;quot; link is SKOS.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Regards,
&lt;br&gt;Diane Hillmann
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;p&gt;From forum: &lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/w3.org---public-esw-thes-f11603.html&quot; embed=&quot;fixTarget[11603]&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; &gt;w3.org - public-esw-thes&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</content>
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26516620</id>
	<title>Second call for papers: NMR sub-workshop on ontologies</title>
	<published>2009-11-24T03:52:59Z</published>
	<updated>2009-11-24T03:52:59Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Renata Wassermann</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">&lt;pre&gt;&lt;/pre&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;Sincere apologies for multiple postings.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;======================================================&lt;br&gt;CALL FOR PAPERS&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The NMR&amp;#39;2010 Workshop on&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Commonsense and Non-Monotonic Reasoning for Ontologies&lt;br&gt;

&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://ksg.meraka.org.za/nmronto2010&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://ksg.meraka.org.za/nmronto2010&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Collocated With KR&amp;#39;2010&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;May 14-16 2010&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Sutton Place, Toronto, Canada&lt;br&gt;======================================================&lt;br&gt;

&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;-- Workshop Description --&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Classical reasoning over ontologies has reached the point where it can deal with large real-world ontologies.. This can largely be attributed to advances in research on description logics (DLs). A good example is the medical ontology SNOMED-CT, containing over 300,000 concepts and millions of binary relationships between them. SNOMED-CT can be represented as a DL ontology, and its subsumption hierarchy can be computed in a matter of minutes.&lt;br&gt;

&lt;br&gt; The obvious next step now is to extend reasoning over ontologies to cover non-classical cases, such as commonsense reasoning, a well established branch of AI. The first steps in that direction have been done by the ontology community, and while research along these lines has already resulted in initial tangible results, there is a need for a more coherent approach in order to speed up progress.&lt;br&gt;

&lt;br&gt;This need provides interesting challenges to both the ontology and commonsense reasoning communities. For the commonsense reasoning community it is a chance to determine to what extent techniques developed in its sub-areas, like e.g. non-monotonic reasoning (NMR), can be tailored to the requirements of the ontology community. For the ontology community it is an opportunity to determine whether existing results in this area can be sharpened and improved on by referring to results in the broader area of commonsense reasoning.&lt;br&gt;

&lt;br&gt;The topic of the workshop will hence be combining commonsense reasoning approaches and techniques with ontologies. One of the main motivations is to bring ideas from the well developed area of non-monotonic reasoning, like e.g. reasoning about actions, argumentation and belief revision, for discussion in the realm of ontology engineering: evolution, debugging, update, merging, etc. Certainly these tasks can benefit from most of the advances in NMR and give new insights for research in that area as well.&lt;br&gt;

&lt;br&gt;Commonsense and Non-Monotonic Reasoning for Ontologies will be of interest to:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;  - Researchers in the ontology community, particularly DL researchers, interested in extending ontological reasoning to non-classical cases.&lt;br&gt;

  - Researchers in the knowledge representation and commonsense reasoning community interested in applying existing NMR techniques to the area of ontologies.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;This workshop will focus on an emerging hot topic. As such, one of its immediate outcomes will be boosting a new and exciting hybrid research domain combining commonsense reasoning and knowledge engineering for ontologies.&lt;br&gt;

&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;-- Topics of Interest --&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Submissions are welcome on the role of commonsense and non-monotonic reasoning for ontologies in areas that include but are not limited to the following ones:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;- Ontology Debugging and Update&lt;br&gt;

- Ontology Merging, Alignment and Integration&lt;br&gt;- Inconsistency Handling&lt;br&gt;- Belief Revision and Theory Change for ontologies&lt;br&gt;- Uncertainty Handling, Defeasible Reasoning and Argumentation in ontologies&lt;br&gt;- Heuristic and Approximate Reasoning&lt;br&gt;

- NMR methods for light-weight DL ontologies&lt;br&gt;- Planning and Reasoning about Action and Change on the Semantic Web&lt;br&gt;- Rules and Ontologies&lt;br&gt;- Temporal and Spatial Reasoning&lt;br&gt;- Ontology Fault Diagnosis and Repair&lt;br&gt;

- Preferences and Ontologies&lt;br&gt;- Formal Concept Analysis and Ontologies&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;-- Submission Instructions --&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Authors are kindly requested to follow the instructions for authors on the NMR website at&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cs.sfu.ca/news/conferences/NMR/2010/NMR_2010/Author_Instructions..html&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.cs.sfu.ca/news/conferences/NMR/2010/NMR_2010/Author_Instructions.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;

&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Please submit to &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.easychair.org/conferences/?conf=nmronto2010&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.easychair.org/conferences/?conf=nmronto2010&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;-- Important Dates&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;- Papers due: January 29 (Friday), 2010&lt;br&gt;

- Notification: March 1 (Monday), 2010&lt;br&gt;- Final version: April 6 (Tuesday), 2010&lt;br&gt;- Workshop: May 14-16, 2010&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;-- Additional Information --&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Please visit the NMR website at&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cs.sfu.ca/news/conferences/NMR/2010/NMR_2010/NMR10.html&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.cs.sfu.ca/news/conferences/NMR/2010/NMR_2010/NMR10.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;

&lt;br&gt;for more information about NMR, the venue of the workshop, the city of Toronto, accommodation and travel tips.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;-- Workshop Chairs --&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;- Ivan José Varzinczak (Meraka Institute, South Africa)&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://ksg.meraka.org.za/~ivarzinczak&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://ksg.meraka.org.za/~ivarzinczak&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;

&lt;br&gt;- Renata Wassermann (Universidade de São Paulo, Brazil)&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ime.usp.br/~renata&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.ime.usp.br/~renata&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;-- Program Committee --&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;- Grigoris Antoniou (University of Crete and Information Systems Laboratory, Greece)&lt;br&gt;

- Fábio Cozman (Universidade de São Paulo, Brazil)&lt;br&gt;- Giorgos Flouris (University of Crete and Information Systems Laboratory, Greece)&lt;br&gt;- Norman Foo (University of New South Wales, Australia)&lt;br&gt;- Zhisheng Huang (Free University of Amsterdam, Netherlands)&lt;br&gt;

- Jos Lehmann (University of Edinburgh, United Kingdom)&lt;br&gt;- Maurice Pagnucco (University of New South Wales, Australia)&lt;br&gt;- Jeff Pan (University of Aberdeen, United Kingdom)&lt;br&gt;- Bijan Parsia (University of Manchester, United Kingdom)&lt;br&gt;

- Laurent Perrussel (Université de Toulouse 1, France)&lt;br&gt;- Guilin Qi (Universitaet Karlsruhe, Germany)&lt;br&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;pre&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/pre&gt;&lt;br clear=&quot;all&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;-- &lt;br&gt;Renata Wassermann&lt;br&gt;Associate Professor&lt;br&gt;Computer Science Department&lt;br&gt;

University of São Paulo&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;
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	<title>Re: SKOS support in Drupal</title>
	<published>2009-11-24T02:45:12Z</published>
	<updated>2009-11-24T02:45:12Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Dan Morrison-3</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">&lt;html&gt;&lt;body style=&quot;word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; &quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div&gt;On 24/11/2009, at 10:48 PM, Sean Bechhofer wrote:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;blockquote type=&quot;cite&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br&gt;The SKOS implementation report [1] cited a number of vocabularies that were using SKOS. How about one of those?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Cheers,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;Apple-tab-span&quot; style=&quot;white-space: pre; &quot;&gt;	&lt;/span&gt;Sean&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;[1] &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/SKOS/reference/20090315/implementation.html&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/SKOS/reference/20090315/implementation.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/div&gt;Thanks Sean, that's definitely the sort of list I'm looking for. My browser history indicates I've found a *few* of them before. (and many more are defunct, damn)&lt;div&gt;I still can't see any that will empower a killer app for the social, 2.0 or &quot;semantic&quot; web. I've found lists of economic terminology, but to sell it as an enhancement to a CMS, I need things more accessible, something that a blogger, marketer, corporate or institution would want to use to enhance the metadata of their readable content, not just academic data dumps.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;The broadest re-usable source I've found so far is MeSH which grew up to support PUBMed (I think). But it's not SKOS. So if there were a SKOS resource that was in any way authoritative, and not just a proof-of-concept, I'd love to link right in and embed it. (taxonomy_xml for the Drupal CMS is designed to feed from published external sources, it's not distributed with data itself (beyond samples).&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;If I could find a SKOS leader-in-the-field of:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;- Music genres&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;- fiction genres&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;- ethnologies, world languages&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;- foods, recipes by type or influence&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;- geography/regions&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;- mythology&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;- geneology&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;- car makes &amp;amp; models&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;- art classifications or materials&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;- political groups&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;- religious sects&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;... heck I dunno, just SOMETHING that had meaning, represents abstract knowledge in the real world, &amp;nbsp;and would actually be a benefit to certain folk putting together a web site.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;That's what I'd like to sell, I need to be able to say if you add this rich, semantic data to your information architecture, it will be helpful.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;I do not have any example of this in SKOS yet, though I know the promise is there. I just don't understand why I've failed to find it yet.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Thanks for the input, I've now followed every hopeful link on that page... but :-(&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;blockquote type=&quot;cite&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;Yes, Dan, if you want to play with something, maybe one of the IVOA astronomy vocabularies can be nice. Especially because there are a couple of &quot;small&quot; vocs &amp;nbsp;with a clear hierarchical structure there, such as [2].&lt;br&gt;And then you could have a try with bigger vocabularies. But be careful, things such as subject heading lists (like LCSH at [3]) are more like &quot;networks&quot; of concepts that are not really intended at for global hierarchical browsing, as they maybe have some thousands of &quot;top&quot; nodes...&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Cheers,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Antoine&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;[2]&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ivoa.net/rdf/Vocabularies/vocabularies-20091007/AVM/&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.ivoa.net/rdf/Vocabularies/vocabularies-20091007/AVM/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;[3]&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&quot;http://id.loc.gov/&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://id.loc.gov&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;I've been supporting importing the Library of Congress Subject Headings for a little while - They support content-negotiation properly and made my spider happy! I found that the consumer I wrote a year before there was any producer just started working on it without modification. That was gobsmacking.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;At the time it was &quot;If anyone ever does start serving vocabs up in RDF/XML with proper content-headers, I'll be able to read it this way, pity nobody does&quot;. When I discovered LOC had started doing so *and* my reader just worked, I poured myself a martini and stopped work for the day!&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;I solved the scaling problem when I was working on the&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&quot;http://acquia.com/blog/kieran/drupal-taxonomy-sprint-encyclodpedia-life-and-chicago-field-museum&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Encyclopedia of Life project&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;(hundreds of thousands of taxons). And refined it when importing&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nlm.nih.gov/pubs/factsheets/mesh.html&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;MeSH&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;(25,000 terms). So the LOC was small fry compared to them. :-)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;I'll look further into the Astronomy one, which did at least look self-contained. Still a bit academic to use as a show-pony for why SKOS is any use to humans ;-)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;I need some kick-ass real (public domain) list that a site-builder would WANT to start using. No more &quot;samples&quot; :-)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;.dan.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/body&gt;&lt;/html&gt;&lt;p&gt;From forum: &lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/w3.org---public-esw-thes-f11603.html&quot; embed=&quot;fixTarget[11603]&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; &gt;w3.org - public-esw-thes&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</content>
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