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	<title>Resize Validation Icon</title>
	<published>2009-11-26T15:59:17Z</published>
	<updated>2009-11-26T15:59:17Z</updated>
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		<name>4fingers</name>
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&lt;p class=MsoNormal&gt;Hi,&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class=MsoNormal&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class=MsoNormal&gt;I was just wondering if resizing the validation icons (http://www.w3.org/QA/Tools/Icons)
was allowed?&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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&lt;p class=MsoNormal&gt;Thanks,&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class=MsoNormal&gt;Graeme&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-25348000</id>
	<title>Re: QA DTD list page--don't use multiple internal scrolling regions</title>
	<published>2009-09-08T08:04:09Z</published>
	<updated>2009-09-08T08:04:09Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Barclay, Daniel</name>
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&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT SIZE=2&gt;Dominique Hazael-Massieux wrote:&lt;BR&gt;
&amp;gt; Le lundi 10 août 2009 à 14:07 -0400, Barclay, Daniel a écrit :&lt;BR&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Regarding the page at&lt;BR&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt; http://www.w3.org/QA/2002/04/valid-dtd-list.html:&lt;BR&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&lt;BR&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Please do NOT use &amp;quot;overflow: scroll&amp;quot; for individual PRE elements.&lt;BR&gt;
&amp;gt;&lt;BR&gt;
&amp;gt; I agree that the use of scrollbars for the pre elements was annoying,&lt;BR&gt;
&amp;gt; and so modified it not to do that any more.&lt;BR&gt;
&amp;gt;&lt;BR&gt;
&amp;gt; (it now has overflow: visible, and white-space: pre-wrap).&lt;BR&gt;
&lt;BR&gt;
Thanks.&lt;BR&gt;
&lt;BR&gt;
&lt;BR&gt;
Daniel&lt;BR&gt;
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-25294685</id>
	<title>Re: http://www.w3.org/QA/* pages layout problem--search box  overlaps links</title>
	<published>2009-09-04T06:48:49Z</published>
	<updated>2009-09-04T06:48:49Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Dominique Hazael-Massieux-2</name>
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	<content type="html">Le lundi 10 août 2009 à 13:25 -0400, Barclay, Daniel a écrit :
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; The pages at &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.w3.org/QA/*&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.w3.org/QA/*&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;are coded/laid out in such a way
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; that the text box for search can overlap the Feedback, Tools, etc.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; link text.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; (If you're using a browser window too wide to show the problem, trying
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; narrowing it and watch what happens.)
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I can how this could be happening, indeed; given that the W3C Web site
&lt;br&gt;is being redesigned, and assuming that some/many of the QA pages will be
&lt;br&gt;migrated to that new design, I'm not planning on acting upon it at this
&lt;br&gt;stage.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://beta.w3.org/&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://beta.w3.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Thanks for your feedback,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Dom
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-25294659</id>
	<title>Re: QA DTD list page--don't use multiple internal scrolling regions</title>
	<published>2009-09-04T06:46:39Z</published>
	<updated>2009-09-04T06:46:39Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Dominique Hazael-Massieux-2</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Le lundi 10 août 2009 à 14:07 -0400, Barclay, Daniel a écrit :
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Regarding the page at
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.w3.org/QA/2002/04/valid-dtd-list.html:&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.w3.org/QA/2002/04/valid-dtd-list.html:&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Please do NOT use &amp;quot;overflow: scroll&amp;quot; for individual PRE elements.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I agree that the use of scrollbars for the pre elements was annoying,
&lt;br&gt;and so modified it not to do that any more.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;(it now has overflow: visible, and white-space: pre-wrap).
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Regards,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Dom
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-24904559</id>
	<title>QA DTD list page--don't use multiple internal scrolling regions</title>
	<published>2009-08-10T11:07:17Z</published>
	<updated>2009-08-10T11:07:17Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Barclay, Daniel</name>
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&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT SIZE=2&gt;Regarding the page at http://www.w3.org/QA/2002/04/valid-dtd-list.html:&lt;BR&gt;
&lt;BR&gt;
Please do NOT use &amp;quot;overflow: scroll&amp;quot; for individual PRE elements.&lt;BR&gt;
&lt;BR&gt;
That can make things really inconvenient, requiring the user to scroll&lt;BR&gt;
each block of content individually, instead of simply using the&lt;BR&gt;
browser's overall horizontal scroll bar (and shortcuts such as&lt;BR&gt;
simply pressing the left or right arrow key).&lt;BR&gt;
&lt;BR&gt;
(If you don't see the problem, narrow your browser window to see how&lt;BR&gt;
it looks.&amp;nbsp; In paticular, try looking at the content of (and scrolling)&lt;BR&gt;
multiple PRE blocks to see how inconvenient it gets.)&lt;BR&gt;
&lt;BR&gt;
&lt;BR&gt;
Additionally, notice how &amp;quot;overflow: scroll&amp;quot; requires repeated&lt;BR&gt;
scrolling even when the browser window _is_ wide enough to display&lt;BR&gt;
the _content_ of the PRE elements:&lt;BR&gt;
&lt;BR&gt;
When the browser pane is narrow enough to not be able to display&lt;BR&gt;
all of the gray left margin, the white indentation of the PRE&lt;BR&gt;
elements, and the content of the PRE elements, the browser would&lt;BR&gt;
normally display a horizontal scroll bar.&lt;BR&gt;
&lt;BR&gt;
If that width _is_ enough to display the content of PRE elements,&lt;BR&gt;
then once the user scrolls horizontally to see the PRE content, the&lt;BR&gt;
user normally could see _all_ of the PRE content without further&lt;BR&gt;
horizontal scrolling.&lt;BR&gt;
&lt;BR&gt;
However, with the current &amp;quot;overflow: scroll&amp;quot; setting, even if a PRE&lt;BR&gt;
element's content would fit in the browser pane width, the user is&lt;BR&gt;
still forced to scroll horizontally in order to see it.&lt;BR&gt;
&lt;BR&gt;
&lt;BR&gt;
These are the _Quality_ Assurance pages.&amp;nbsp; Though they're mostly&lt;BR&gt;
fine, they would benefit from a little more attention to page design&lt;BR&gt;
quality (usuability).&lt;BR&gt;
&lt;BR&gt;
&lt;BR&gt;
&lt;BR&gt;
Daniel&lt;BR&gt;
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-24903896</id>
	<title>http://www.w3.org/QA/* pages layout problem--search box overlaps links</title>
	<published>2009-08-10T10:25:02Z</published>
	<updated>2009-08-10T10:25:02Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Barclay, Daniel</name>
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&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT SIZE=2&gt;The pages at &lt;A HREF=&quot;http://www.w3.org/QA/*&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.w3.org/QA/*&lt;/A&gt; are coded/laid out in such a way&lt;BR&gt;
that the text box for search can overlap the Feedback, Tools, etc.&lt;BR&gt;
link text.&lt;BR&gt;
&lt;BR&gt;
(If you're using a browser window too wide to show the problem, trying&lt;BR&gt;
narrowing it and watch what happens.)&lt;BR&gt;
&lt;BR&gt;
Daniel&lt;BR&gt;
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-24302099</id>
	<title>Re: XML Schema validator or link broken?</title>
	<published>2009-07-01T23:52:42Z</published>
	<updated>2009-07-01T23:52:42Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Dominique Hazael-Massieux-2</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Hi Daniel,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Le mercredi 01 juillet 2009 à 15:37 -0400, Barclay, Daniel a écrit :
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; On the page at &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.w3.org/QA/Tools/&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.w3.org/QA/Tools/&lt;/a&gt;, the link labeled
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;quot;XML Schema Validator&amp;quot; leads to &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.w3.org/2001/03/webdata/xsv&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.w3.org/2001/03/webdata/xsv&lt;/a&gt;,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; which seems to return an empty document.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Thanks for the report - I have forwarded it to the service maintainer,
&lt;br&gt;and will let you know when I hear back from him.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Regards,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Dom
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-24295943</id>
	<title>XML Schema validator or link broken?</title>
	<published>2009-07-01T12:37:15Z</published>
	<updated>2009-07-01T12:37:15Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Barclay, Daniel</name>
	</author>
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&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT SIZE=2&gt;On the page at &lt;A HREF=&quot;http://www.w3.org/QA/Tools/&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.w3.org/QA/Tools/&lt;/A&gt;, the link labeled&lt;BR&gt;
&amp;quot;XML Schema Validator&amp;quot; leads to &lt;A HREF=&quot;http://www.w3.org/2001/03/webdata/xsv&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.w3.org/2001/03/webdata/xsv&lt;/A&gt;,&lt;BR&gt;
which seems to return an empty document.&lt;BR&gt;
&lt;BR&gt;
Daniel&lt;BR&gt;
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-23560934</id>
	<title>Re: spidering html validator and xml ouput option</title>
	<published>2009-05-15T07:26:43Z</published>
	<updated>2009-05-15T07:26:43Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Dominique Hazael-Massieux-2</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Hi Paul,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Le vendredi 15 mai 2009 à 14:23 +0000, Paul Sullivan a écrit :
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; I was just wondering if it were in development to combine spidering with
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; the html validator and if it you would include an xml output option.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; This will enable site wide checking for valid pages and a means by which
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; to extract the data (easily) for developers to use as a testing
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; document.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I think the answer to that question is &amp;quot;not at this time&amp;quot;, but you would
&lt;br&gt;be more likely to get a reliable answer on &lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=23560934&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;www-validator@...&lt;/a&gt;.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Regards,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Dom
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-23560904</id>
	<title>spidering html validator and xml ouput option</title>
	<published>2009-05-15T07:23:05Z</published>
	<updated>2009-05-15T07:23:05Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Paul Sullivan-8</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">I was just wondering if it were in development to combine spidering with
&lt;br&gt;the html validator and if it you would include an xml output option.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;This will enable site wide checking for valid pages and a means by which
&lt;br&gt;to extract the data (easily) for developers to use as a testing
&lt;br&gt;document.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Paul
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-19918760</id>
	<title>Re: Recommended DTDs to use in your Web document</title>
	<published>2008-10-10T06:47:00Z</published>
	<updated>2008-10-10T06:47:00Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>David Dorward-3</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">&lt;br&gt;Jens Meiert wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Regarding recommended DTDs [1], may I suggest to add the HTML 5
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; document type (&amp;quot;&amp;lt;!DOCTYPE html&amp;gt;&amp;quot; [2]) as well?
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;HTML5 isn't even a Candidate Recommendation yet, so I don't think that 
&lt;br&gt;would be a good idea.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;</content>
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-19916900</id>
	<title>Re: Recommended DTDs to use in your Web document</title>
	<published>2008-10-10T04:57:41Z</published>
	<updated>2008-10-10T04:57:41Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Jens Meiert-4</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">&lt;br&gt;Regarding recommended DTDs [1], may I suggest to add the HTML 5
&lt;br&gt;document type (&amp;quot;&amp;lt;!DOCTYPE html&amp;gt;&amp;quot; [2]) as well?
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;[1] &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.w3.org/QA/2002/04/valid-dtd-list.html&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.w3.org/QA/2002/04/valid-dtd-list.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;[2] &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.w3.org/TR/html5/syntax.html#the-doctype&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.w3.org/TR/html5/syntax.html#the-doctype&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;-- 
&lt;br&gt;Jens Meiert
&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://meiert.com/en/&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://meiert.com/en/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Code responsibly
&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://coderesponsibly.org/&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://coderesponsibly.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;</content>
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-19657236</id>
	<title>Re: Error in QA Tips section of website: page moved with incorrect message</title>
	<published>2008-09-24T13:26:04Z</published>
	<updated>2008-09-24T13:26:04Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>olivier Thereaux</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">&lt;br&gt;Hello Timothy,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;On 21-Sep-08, at 6:25 AM, Timothy Green wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; The page &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.w3.org/2001/06tips/noClickHere&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.w3.org/2001/06tips/noClickHere&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;contains the text
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;quot;The document has moved here.&amp;quot; There is a link on the word 'here',
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;That's the default apache body for a 301 redirect permanent, FWIW.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; which, given the subject of the article, is mildly amusing. Less
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; amusing, however, is the fact that the link is incorrect, pointing to
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; the same page it's actually on. The document has in fact moved to
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.w3.org/QA/Tips/noClickHere&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.w3.org/QA/Tips/noClickHere&lt;/a&gt;.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Why not use a HTTP redirect?
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The redirect is set, and working for every other tip but this one... &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;I'm asking our webmaster to look into this.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;-- 
&lt;br&gt;olivier
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;</content>
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-19644537</id>
	<title>Error in QA Tips section of website: page moved with incorrect message</title>
	<published>2008-09-21T03:25:44Z</published>
	<updated>2008-09-21T03:25:44Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Timothy Green-2</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The page &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.w3.org/2001/06tips/noClickHere&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.w3.org/2001/06tips/noClickHere&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;contains the text
&lt;br&gt;&amp;quot;The document has moved here.&amp;quot; There is a link on the word 'here',
&lt;br&gt;which, given the subject of the article, is mildly amusing. Less
&lt;br&gt;amusing, however, is the fact that the link is incorrect, pointing to
&lt;br&gt;the same page it's actually on. The document has in fact moved to
&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.w3.org/QA/Tips/noClickHere&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.w3.org/QA/Tips/noClickHere&lt;/a&gt;.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Why not use a HTTP redirect?
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Timothy Green.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;</content>
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-17543537</id>
	<title>Re: Direct input versus file upload results mismatch</title>
	<published>2008-05-29T12:05:07Z</published>
	<updated>2008-05-29T12:05:07Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>olivier Thereaux</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">&lt;br&gt;Dear Paola,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;On 14-May-08, at 10:25 AM, Paola U. wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; So I was a little bit surprised getting validation error through &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; valid icons
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; link in my web pages. To check if code was really wrong I copied the &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; source
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; code using the' view source code' in my Firefox browser and pasted &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; it at
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; address:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://validator.w3.org/#validate_by_input&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://validator.w3.org/#validate_by_input&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; getting a valid result again!
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It looks like you are using ASP.net, which is unfortunately known to &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;serve proper XHTML to browsers and pathologically broken markup to &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;other user agents, including the markup validator.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;This is _not_ a bug in the W3C Tools.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;For more information on this “feature” in ASP.net, and how to work &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;around it, see this document:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/exc57y7e.aspx&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/exc57y7e.aspx&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;and in particular the section &amp;quot;Configuring Browser Capabilities for &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;Markup Validation&amp;quot;.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Regards,
&lt;br&gt;-- 
&lt;br&gt;olivier
&lt;br&gt;</content>
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-17314262</id>
	<title>Direct input versus file upload results mismatch</title>
	<published>2008-05-14T07:25:07Z</published>
	<updated>2008-05-14T07:25:07Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Paola U.</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">&lt;br&gt;Hello,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I usually use W3C-QA tools to validate XHTML &amp;nbsp;pages &amp;nbsp;and CSS before publishing.
&lt;br&gt;So I was a little bit surprised getting validation error through valid icons
&lt;br&gt;link in my web pages. To check if code was really wrong I copied the source
&lt;br&gt;code using the' view source code' in my Firefox browser and pasted it at
&lt;br&gt;address:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://validator.w3.org/#validate_by_input&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://validator.w3.org/#validate_by_input&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;getting a valid result again!
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Revalidating the wrong result by checking the 'Clean up Markup with HTML
&lt;br&gt;Tidy' box I could verify that the problem arises in the nested ul tags used
&lt;br&gt;as navigation menues. Tiny added an extra empty &amp;lt;li class=&amp;quot;c2&amp;quot;&amp;gt; tag.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;You may verify this at address:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.skeni.it/it/presentazione.html&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.skeni.it/it/presentazione.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I checked also pages:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.skeni.it/it/progettazione.html&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.skeni.it/it/progettazione.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;and
&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.skeni.it/it/allestimenti.html&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.skeni.it/it/allestimenti.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;getting analogous results.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Looking forward to your answer as soon as possible.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Have a nice evening,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Paola Ugliano
&lt;br&gt;Italy
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;***********************************
&lt;br&gt;Paola Ugliano
&lt;br&gt;Architettura dell'Informazione
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Prima di stampare questo messaggio chiediti se ne puoi fare a meno.....
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;.....l'ambiente ringrazia!
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;</content>
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-16233326</id>
	<title>Re: XML Source</title>
	<published>2008-03-23T02:48:34Z</published>
	<updated>2008-03-23T02:48:34Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Ian Hickson</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">&lt;br&gt;On Sun, 23 Mar 2008, Scott A Tovey wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; I am looking for a copy of the XML source of the HTML language for 4.01, 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; XHTML 1.0, XHTML 1.1 and HTML 5.0.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I don't know about the other three, but for HTML5 the main document is 
&lt;br&gt;available at:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It is generated from this hand-edited source document using some 
&lt;br&gt;preprocessor scripts to number headers and link cross-references:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/source&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/source&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;HTH,
&lt;br&gt;-- 
&lt;br&gt;Ian Hickson &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; U+1047E &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;)\._.,--....,'``. &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;fL
&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://ln.hixie.ch/&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://ln.hixie.ch/&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;U+263A &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;/, &amp;nbsp; _.. \ &amp;nbsp; _\ &amp;nbsp;;`._ ,.
&lt;br&gt;Things that are impossible just take longer. &amp;nbsp; `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;</content>
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-16232581</id>
	<title>Re: XML Source</title>
	<published>2008-03-23T01:47:22Z</published>
	<updated>2008-03-23T01:47:22Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>David Dorward-3</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;On 23 Mar 2008, at 04:02, Scott A Tovey wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; I am looking for a copy of the XML source of the
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; HTML language for 4.01, XHTML 1.0, XHTML 1.1 and
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; HTML 5.0.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The DTDs for HTML 4.x and XHTML 1.x are linked from their relevant &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;specifications. HTML5 is unfinished, and isn't an SGML or XML &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;application so doesn't have a DTD.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;There is no &amp;quot;XML source&amp;quot; for the language though, as far as I know, &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;there is no XML application that can express the specifications.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; With proper implementation, this browser will be
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; able to render all tags properly. Including tags
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; that have yet to be considered.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I don't think that is possible.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;-- 
&lt;br&gt;David Dorward
&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://dorward.me.uk/&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://dorward.me.uk/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://blog.dorward.me.uk/&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://blog.dorward.me.uk/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;</content>
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-16232406</id>
	<title>XML Source</title>
	<published>2008-03-22T21:02:34Z</published>
	<updated>2008-03-22T21:02:34Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Scott A Tovey</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Hi,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I am looking for a copy of the XML source of the
&lt;br&gt;HTML language for 4.01, XHTML 1.0, XHTML 1.1 and
&lt;br&gt;HTML 5.0.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I have a novel concept for a standards compliant
&lt;br&gt;browser but I need to look at the actual XML
&lt;br&gt;source files, not white papers or documentation
&lt;br&gt;explaining how the language works.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The concept is to create a browser that will be
&lt;br&gt;standards compliant even if a new language is
&lt;br&gt;created.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;With proper implementation, this browser will be
&lt;br&gt;able to render all tags properly. Including tags
&lt;br&gt;that have yet to be considered.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Can you direct me to where I can download a copy
&lt;br&gt;of these files?
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I appreciate any help you can give me.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Scott A Tovey
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;____________________________________________________________________________________
&lt;br&gt;Never miss a thing. &amp;nbsp;Make Yahoo your home page.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;</content>
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-16088909</id>
	<title>Re: UA support for Content-Disposition header (filename parameter)</title>
	<published>2008-03-16T22:56:43Z</published>
	<updated>2008-03-16T22:56:43Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Karl Dubost</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">&lt;br&gt;Hi Julian,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;-public-html (bcc)
&lt;br&gt;+www-qa
&lt;br&gt;[Message reference][2]
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Le 14 mars 2008 à 23:50, Julian Reschke a écrit :
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; The problem I raised *is* an interoperability problem that has &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; affected people in the real world. So it escapes me why you feel &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; HTML5 should be silent on it.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The [issue you raised][1] would be better addressed in [CUAP][3] - &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;Common User Agent Problems. This note needs a huge clean up. If you &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;are willing to collect issues and document them, I might find time to &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;republish it and list you as co-editor.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;[1]: &lt;a href=&quot;http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2008Mar/0113&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2008Mar/0113&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;[2]: &lt;a href=&quot;http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2008Mar/0115&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2008Mar/0115&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;[3]: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.w3.org/TR/cuap&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.w3.org/TR/cuap&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;--
&lt;br&gt;Karl Dubost - W3C
&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.w3.org/QA/&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.w3.org/QA/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;Be Strict To Be Cool
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;</content>
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-15576409</id>
	<title>Re: Quality Tip suggestion: don't say &quot;click here&quot;, not everyone  will be clicking</title>
	<published>2008-02-19T13:20:55Z</published>
	<updated>2008-02-19T13:20:55Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Hal Goodtree</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">&lt;HTML&gt;
&lt;HEAD&gt;
&lt;TITLE&gt;Re: Quality Tip suggestion: don't say &amp;quot;click here&amp;quot;, not everyone will be clicking&lt;/TITLE&gt;
&lt;/HEAD&gt;
&lt;BODY&gt;
&lt;FONT FACE=&quot;Monaco, Courier New&quot;&gt;&lt;SPAN STYLE='font-size:12.0px'&gt;Bonjour Jean-Francois, Karl &amp;amp; everyone - &lt;BR&gt;
&lt;BR&gt;
I&amp;#8217;d written last year about the language of linking, specifically about the use of verbs:&lt;BR&gt;
&lt;BR&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://online-copywriter.com/wordpress/2007/03/20/dont-click-here-avoid-verbs/&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://online-copywriter.com/wordpress/2007/03/20/dont-click-here-avoid-verbs/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;BR&gt;
&lt;BR&gt;
In a nutshell, the advice about avoiding verbs seems to be outdated. I&amp;#8217;d be happy to update the entry in QA Tips if there is a perceived need.&lt;BR&gt;
&lt;BR&gt;
Cheers!&lt;BR&gt;
&lt;BR&gt;
Hal&lt;BR&gt;
&lt;BR&gt;
&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;SPAN STYLE='font-size:12.0px'&gt;&lt;FONT COLOR=&quot;#007F00&quot;&gt;&lt;FONT FACE=&quot;Courier, Courier New&quot;&gt;-- &lt;BR&gt;
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Hi Jean-Fran&amp;ccedil;ois,&lt;BR&gt;
&lt;BR&gt;
Le 18 f&amp;eacute;vr. 2008 &amp;agrave; 20:20, NAUD Jean Francois a &amp;eacute;crit :&lt;BR&gt;
&amp;gt; why is the use of a verb phrase ( &amp;quot;is not a verb phrase&amp;quot;) forbidden ?&lt;BR&gt;
&lt;BR&gt;
&lt;BR&gt;
to give a bit more context with regards to your request. You are &amp;nbsp;&lt;BR&gt;
talking about&lt;BR&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.w3.org/QA/Tips/noClickHere&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.w3.org/QA/Tips/noClickHere&lt;/a&gt;&lt;BR&gt;
&lt;BR&gt;
&lt;BR&gt;
======================&lt;BR&gt;
Both of these sentences divulge too much of the mechanics of getting &amp;nbsp;&lt;BR&gt;
the Amaya software. If you want to call your reader to action, use &amp;nbsp;&lt;BR&gt;
something like:&lt;BR&gt;
&lt;BR&gt;
&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Get _Amaya_!&lt;BR&gt;
&lt;BR&gt;
Note that &amp;quot;get&amp;quot; is left out of the hypertext; we do not recommend &amp;nbsp;&lt;BR&gt;
putting verb phrases in link text. Thus, rather than:&lt;BR&gt;
&lt;BR&gt;
&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;_Tell me more_ about Amaya.&lt;BR&gt;
&lt;BR&gt;
You should write:&lt;BR&gt;
&lt;BR&gt;
&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Tell me more about _Amaya_: W3C's free editor/browser that lets &amp;nbsp;&lt;BR&gt;
you create HTML, SVG, and MathML documents.&lt;BR&gt;
======================&lt;BR&gt;
&lt;BR&gt;
&lt;BR&gt;
I guess the rationale behind that is that the link as given in the &amp;nbsp;&lt;BR&gt;
example, doesn't start the download but is the actual homepage of Amaya.&lt;BR&gt;
&lt;BR&gt;
&lt;BR&gt;
--&lt;BR&gt;
Karl Dubost - W3C&lt;BR&gt;
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Be Strict To Be Cool&lt;BR&gt;
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-15562582</id>
	<title>Re: Quality Tip suggestion: don't say &quot;click here&quot;, not everyone will be clicking</title>
	<published>2008-02-19T00:58:57Z</published>
	<updated>2008-02-19T00:58:57Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Karl Dubost</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">&lt;br&gt;Hi Jean-François,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Le 18 févr. 2008 à 20:20, NAUD Jean Francois a écrit :
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; why is the use of a verb phrase ( &amp;quot;is not a verb phrase&amp;quot;) forbidden ?
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;to give a bit more context with regards to your request. You are &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;talking about
&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.w3.org/QA/Tips/noClickHere&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.w3.org/QA/Tips/noClickHere&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;======================
&lt;br&gt;Both of these sentences divulge too much of the mechanics of getting &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;the Amaya software. If you want to call your reader to action, use &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;something like:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;Get _Amaya_!
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Note that &amp;quot;get&amp;quot; is left out of the hypertext; we do not recommend &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;putting verb phrases in link text. Thus, rather than:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;_Tell me more_ about Amaya.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;You should write:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;Tell me more about _Amaya_: W3C's free editor/browser that lets &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;you create HTML, SVG, and MathML documents.
&lt;br&gt;======================
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I guess the rationale behind that is that the link as given in the &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;example, doesn't start the download but is the actual homepage of Amaya.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;--
&lt;br&gt;Karl Dubost - W3C
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-15562470</id>
	<title>Re: Quality Tip suggestion: don't say &quot;click here&quot;, not everyone will be clicking</title>
	<published>2008-02-18T11:20:11Z</published>
	<updated>2008-02-18T11:20:11Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>NAUD Jean Francois</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">&lt;html&gt;&lt;body style=&quot;word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; &quot;&gt; &lt;div&gt; &lt;div&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;863531015-18022008&quot;&gt;&lt;font face=&quot;Arial&quot; size=&quot;2&quot;&gt;hi, &lt;/font&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;863531015-18022008&quot;&gt;&lt;font face=&quot;Arial&quot; size=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;863531015-18022008&quot;&gt;&lt;font face=&quot;Arial&quot; size=&quot;2&quot;&gt;why is the use of a verb phrase&amp;nbsp;(&amp;nbsp;&quot;&lt;font face=&quot;Times New Roman&quot; size=&quot;3&quot;&gt;is not a verb phrase&lt;/font&gt;&quot;) forbidden ?&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;863531015-18022008&quot;&gt;&lt;font face=&quot;Arial&quot; size=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;863531015-18022008&quot;&gt;&lt;font face=&quot;Arial&quot; size=&quot;2&quot;&gt;Regards,&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;863531015-18022008&quot;&gt;&lt;font face=&quot;Arial&quot; size=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;863531015-18022008&quot;&gt;&lt;font face=&quot;Arial&quot; size=&quot;2&quot;&gt;THANX&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;863531015-18022008&quot;&gt;&lt;font face=&quot;Arial&quot; size=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;863531015-18022008&quot;&gt;&lt;font face=&quot;Arial&quot; size=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;pre&gt;=======================================================

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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-15480812</id>
	<title>QA guidance on fragments</title>
	<published>2008-02-14T06:00:40Z</published>
	<updated>2008-02-14T06:00:40Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Jeremy Carroll</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">&lt;br&gt;Concerning ACTION-89
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The document I had in mind was:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.w3.org/TR/spec-variability/&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.w3.org/TR/spec-variability/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I think the introductory text is well worth consideration
&lt;br&gt;e.g.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;[[
&lt;br&gt;As a general principle, variability complicates interoperability. In 
&lt;br&gt;theory, interoperability is best when there are numerous identical, 
&lt;br&gt;complete, and correct implementations. However, when compared to the 
&lt;br&gt;alternatives, the net effect of conformance variability is not 
&lt;br&gt;necessarily negative in all cases. For example profiles — subdivisions 
&lt;br&gt;of the technology targeted at specific applications communities — 
&lt;br&gt;introduce variability among implementations. Some will implement Profile 
&lt;br&gt;ABC, some will implement Profile XYZ, and the two might not 
&lt;br&gt;intercommunicate well if ABC and XYZ are fairly different. However, if 
&lt;br&gt;ABC and XYZ are subsets of a large monolithic specification — too large 
&lt;br&gt;for many implementers to tackle in total -- and if they are well 
&lt;br&gt;targeted at actual application sectors, then subdivision by profiles may 
&lt;br&gt;actually enhance interoperability.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Different sorts of variability have different negative and positive 
&lt;br&gt;impacts. The principal danger is &amp;quot;excessive&amp;quot; variability - variability 
&lt;br&gt;that goes beyond what is needed for a positive interoperability 
&lt;br&gt;trade-off and that unnecessarily complicates the conformance model. 
&lt;br&gt;Specification editors need to carefully consider and justify any 
&lt;br&gt;variability allowed and its affect on conformance. This can be done by 
&lt;br&gt;referencing project requirements and use cases and/or explicitly 
&lt;br&gt;documenting the choices made.
&lt;br&gt;]]
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The whole thing is fairly concise and worth a read in my view.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In terms of the discussion we were having yesterday, I think that if 
&lt;br&gt;there is substantial vendor interest in a particular fragment then that 
&lt;br&gt;should provide adequate positive impact to counter the negative impacts 
&lt;br&gt;- but that having too many fragments is likely to have the opposite effect.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jeremy
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;</content>
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-15469394</id>
	<title>Re: comment lost in http://www.w3.org/QA/</title>
	<published>2008-02-13T14:12:00Z</published>
	<updated>2008-02-13T14:12:00Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Nicolas Krebs</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;Le 14 févr. 2008 à 05:53, Nicolas Krebs a écrit :
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Here is a try (thanks to Live HTTP Headers)
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;solved and published.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Many thanks. 
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Should i send again with &amp;lt;pre&amp;gt; or &amp;lt;table&amp;gt; html tag? 
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;I still do not know what was happening previously though.
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-15469099</id>
	<title>Re: comment lost in http://www.w3.org/QA/</title>
	<published>2008-02-13T14:05:22Z</published>
	<updated>2008-02-13T14:05:22Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Karl Dubost</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Le 14 févr. 2008 à 05:53, Nicolas Krebs a écrit :
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Here is a try (thanks to Live HTTP Headers)
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;solved and published.
&lt;br&gt;I still do not know what was happening previously though.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;--
&lt;br&gt;Karl Dubost - W3C
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&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;</content>
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-15468054</id>
	<title>Re: comment lost in http://www.w3.org/QA/</title>
	<published>2008-02-13T12:53:34Z</published>
	<updated>2008-02-13T12:53:34Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Nicolas Krebs</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;Nicolas,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;that was cool comments indeed. 
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Well, eh, thanks. 
&lt;br&gt;&lt;div class='shrinkable-quote'&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; But It still have not got them.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;Le 7 févr. 2008 à 05:34, Nicolas Krebs a écrit :
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; May be it could help someone :
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; - my comment 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;I really do not know what is happening. Could you make a very simple &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;comment on one of the article? without URL and markup just words, note &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;the date and time you made it, and send an email about it. I wonder if &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;the spam filter is too aggressive.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;thanks.
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br&gt;Here is a try (thanks to Live HTTP Headers)
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;//////////////////////
&lt;br&gt;request of form
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;GET /QA/2008/01/html5-is-html-and-xml.html HTTP/1.1
&lt;br&gt;Host: www.w3.org
&lt;br&gt;GET /QA/2008/01/html5-is-html-and-xml.html HTTP/1.1
&lt;br&gt;Host: www.w3.org
&lt;br&gt;User-Agent: 
&lt;br&gt;[...]
&lt;br&gt;Gecko/20080201 Firefox/2.0.0.12
&lt;br&gt;[...]
&lt;br&gt;//////////////////////
&lt;br&gt;retriving of form
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;HTTP/1.x 200 OK
&lt;br&gt;Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 20:20:34 GMT
&lt;br&gt;Server: Apache/2
&lt;br&gt;Last-Modified: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 04:35:11 GMT
&lt;br&gt;Etag: &amp;quot;44ea-445ee94fd3dc0&amp;quot;
&lt;br&gt;Accept-Ranges: bytes
&lt;br&gt;Content-Length: 17642
&lt;br&gt;Cache-Control: max-age=21600
&lt;br&gt;Expires: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 02:20:34 GMT
&lt;br&gt;P3P: policyref=&amp;quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.w3.org/2001/05/P3P/p3p.xml&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.w3.org/2001/05/P3P/p3p.xml&lt;/a&gt;&amp;quot;
&lt;br&gt;Keep-Alive: timeout=2, max=100
&lt;br&gt;Connection: Keep-Alive
&lt;br&gt;Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
&lt;br&gt;//////////////////////
&lt;br&gt;completion of form
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Nicolas Krebs
&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=15468054&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;nicolas1.krebs3@...&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The following table may help people who do not understand all the meaning of &amp;quot;HTML 5, one vocabulary, two serializations&amp;quot; (read in fixed-lenght font)
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;text/html | application/xhtml+xml
&lt;br&gt;----------|----------------------
&lt;br&gt;HTML 2.0 &amp;nbsp;|
&lt;br&gt;HTML 3.2 &amp;nbsp;|
&lt;br&gt;HTML 4.01 | XHTML 1.0
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; | XHTML 2
&lt;br&gt;HTML 5 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;| HTML 5
&lt;br&gt;//////////////////////
&lt;br&gt;POST /QA/sununga/beach.pl HTTP/1.1
&lt;br&gt;Host: www.w3.org
&lt;br&gt;User-Agent: 
&lt;br&gt;[...]
&lt;br&gt;Gecko/20080201 Firefox/2.0.0.12
&lt;br&gt;[...]
&lt;br&gt;Content-Type: application/x-www-form-urlencoded
&lt;br&gt;Content-Length: 491
&lt;br&gt;text=The+following+table+may+help+people+who+do+not+understand+
&lt;br&gt;all+the+meaning+of+%22HTML+5%2C+one+vocabulary%2C+two+
&lt;br&gt;serializations%22+%28read+in+fixed-lenght+font%29%0D%0A%0D%0Atext%2Fhtml+
&lt;br&gt;%7C+application%2Fxhtml%2Bxml%0D%0A----------%7C----------------------%0D%0AHTML+
&lt;br&gt;2.0++%7C%0D%0AHTML+3.2++%7C%0D%0AHTML+4.01+%7C+XHTML+
&lt;br&gt;1.0%0D%0A++++++++++%7C+XHTML+2%0D%0AHTML+5++++%7C+
&lt;br&gt;HTML+5%0D%0A&amp;static=1&amp;entry_id=137&amp;__lang=en&amp;author=Nicolas+
&lt;br&gt;Krebs&amp;email=nicolas1.krebs3%40netcourrier.com&amp;post=Submit
&lt;br&gt;//////////////////////
&lt;br&gt;HTTP/1.x 200 OK
&lt;br&gt;Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 15:52:46 GMT
&lt;br&gt;Server: Apache/2.2.3 (Debian) mod_python/3.2.10 Python/2.4.4 PHP/5.2.0-8+etch7
&lt;br&gt;Pragma: no-cache
&lt;br&gt;Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
&lt;br&gt;Cache-Control: max-age=21600
&lt;br&gt;Expires: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 02:25:15 GMT
&lt;br&gt;P3P: policyref=&amp;quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.w3.org/2001/05/P3P/p3p.xml&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.w3.org/2001/05/P3P/p3p.xml&lt;/a&gt;&amp;quot;
&lt;br&gt;Keep-Alive: timeout=2, max=100
&lt;br&gt;Connection: Keep-Alive
&lt;br&gt;Transfer-Encoding: chunked
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;[an xhtml content of which the transliteration is]
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;W3C Q&amp;A Weblog
&lt;br&gt;Thank you for commenting.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Your comment has been received and held for approval by the blog owner.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Return to the original entry.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;//////////////////////
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;--
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;Karl Dubost - W3C
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.w3.org/QA/&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.w3.org/QA/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;Be Strict To Be Cool
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-15323159</id>
	<title>Re: comment lost in http://www.w3.org/QA/</title>
	<published>2008-02-06T14:22:53Z</published>
	<updated>2008-02-06T14:22:53Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Karl Dubost</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">&lt;br&gt;Nicolas,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;that was cool comments indeed. But It still have not got them.
&lt;br&gt;Le 7 févr. 2008 à 05:34, Nicolas Krebs a écrit :
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; May be it could help someone :
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; - my comment …
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I really do not know what is happening. Could you make a very simple &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;comment on one of the article? without URL and markup just words, note &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;the date and time you made it, and send an email about it. I wonder if &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;the spam filter is too aggressive.
&lt;br&gt;thanks.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;--
&lt;br&gt;Karl Dubost - W3C
&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.w3.org/QA/&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.w3.org/QA/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;Be Strict To Be Cool
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;</content>
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-15321225</id>
	<title>Re: comment lost in http://www.w3.org/QA/</title>
	<published>2008-02-06T12:34:50Z</published>
	<updated>2008-02-06T12:34:50Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Nicolas Krebs</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">&lt;br&gt;May be it could help someone : 
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;- my comment to &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.w3.org/QA/2008/01/html5-is-html-and-xml.html&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.w3.org/QA/2008/01/html5-is-html-and-xml.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;was an answer to &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.w3.org/QA/2008/01/html5-is-html-and-xml.html#c102605&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.w3.org/QA/2008/01/html5-is-html-and-xml.html#c102605&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.w3.org/QA/2008/01/html5-is-html-and-xml.html#c102979&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.w3.org/QA/2008/01/html5-is-html-and-xml.html#c102979&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;with a table such
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;text/html | application/xhtml+xml
&lt;br&gt;----------|----------------------
&lt;br&gt;HTML 2.0 &amp;nbsp;|
&lt;br&gt;HTML 3.2 &amp;nbsp;|
&lt;br&gt;HTML 4.01 | XHTML 1.0
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; | XHTML 2
&lt;br&gt;HTML 5 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;| HTML 5
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;- my comment to &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.w3.org/QA/2008/01/html5.html&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.w3.org/QA/2008/01/html5.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;was a request to add a multi-page version in
&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.w3.org/TR/2008/WD-html5-diff-20080122/&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.w3.org/TR/2008/WD-html5-diff-20080122/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;such &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.w3.org/TR/2002/REC-xhtml1-20020801/Cover.html&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.w3.org/TR/2002/REC-xhtml1-20020801/Cover.html&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;, 
&lt;br&gt;due to the size of html 5 specification
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;</content>
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-15304940</id>
	<title>Re: Little issue about CSS standard</title>
	<published>2008-02-05T19:50:19Z</published>
	<updated>2008-02-05T19:50:19Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>olivier Thereaux</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">&lt;br&gt;Hello Javier,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;On Feb 2, 2008, at 14:00 , Javier Segura wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Hello, my name is Javier, I'm from Argentina, and I have a question &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; for you.. I'm developing a web site, and I'd like to make a valid &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; CSS code, as XHTML that works for all browsers. The problem, is that &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; I want to use alpha tranparency or opacity respectively and I found &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; that they are both not valid &amp;nbsp;CSS attributes
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;[snip]
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Try looking at the 'opacity' property and the 'rgba()' color values in &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;CSS3. I think you'll see that CSS development is going in the right &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;direction on opacity/transparency.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Note that you can tell the CSS validator to check stylesheets against &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;CSS3 by using the &amp;quot;more options&amp;quot; menu.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;regards,
&lt;br&gt;-- 
&lt;br&gt;olivier Thereaux - W3C - &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.w3.org/People/olivier/&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.w3.org/People/olivier/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;W3C Open Source Software: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.w3.org/Status&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.w3.org/Status&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;</content>
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-15270156</id>
	<title>Little issue about CSS standard</title>
	<published>2008-02-01T21:00:59Z</published>
	<updated>2008-02-01T21:00:59Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Javier Segura</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">&lt;html&gt;&lt;body style=&quot;word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; &quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;Apple-style-span&quot; style=&quot;border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0; &quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;hmmessage&quot; style=&quot;font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; &quot;&gt;Hello, my name is Javier, I'm from Argentina, and I have a question for you.. I'm developing a web site, and I'd&amp;nbsp;like to make a valid CSS code, as XHTML that works for all browsers. The problem, is that I want to use alpha tranparency or opacity respectively&amp;nbsp;and&amp;nbsp;I found that they are both not valid&amp;nbsp; CSS attributes,&amp;nbsp;the question is: Why if these attributes exists, and works when I use them, they are not included as valid CSS attributes on W3C CSS standard? Anyway, if you are trying to validate a CSS standard, and I add CSS attributes to my XHTML code using JavaScript once html content is loaded, you cannot validate them, and I'm making valid CSS for your CSS server side validator tool, but, really I'm supposedly not, because I'm&amp;nbsp;adding supposedly &quot;not valid&quot;&amp;nbsp;CSS&amp;nbsp;attributes to my XHTML&amp;nbsp;DOM objects&amp;nbsp;by using&amp;nbsp;client side JavaScript once page is loaded, that, off course works for all navigators,&amp;nbsp;but you cannot&amp;nbsp;see them beacause they are generated by a client side script.&amp;nbsp;So you are making a wrong validation and I'm adding more download time to my pages just for fix this problem. I&amp;nbsp;hope you guys fix&amp;nbsp;this&amp;nbsp;issue&amp;nbsp;when you release&amp;nbsp;the CSS3 standard. It is not about to use a transparent PNG to make the same effect, because explorer under its 7th version&amp;nbsp;has no support for this, and 98 % of Internet users, has Explorer&amp;nbsp;running&amp;nbsp;on their PCs,&amp;nbsp;but anyway, you know that&amp;nbsp;exists little hack for this, and&amp;nbsp;the whole&amp;nbsp;world use it, It works, but you&amp;nbsp;consider it as not valid, and that is the moment I which I say&amp;nbsp;What's happening?.&amp;nbsp;So, if you don't fix it, well, I'll have to made my own jQuery CSS support&amp;nbsp;to avoid all these &quot;wrong CSS attributes&quot;, that off course you&amp;nbsp;wont be able to validate, but this is the Web that you're making... I think.&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;br&gt;Thank you very much.&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;br&gt;Javier.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;hr&gt;Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger!&lt;span class=&quot;Apple-converted-space&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://clk.atdmt.com/AVE/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/&quot; target=&quot;_new&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;MSN Messenger&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/body&gt;&lt;/html&gt;</content>
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-15149060</id>
	<title>Re: comment lost in http://www.w3.org/QA/</title>
	<published>2008-01-28T15:59:19Z</published>
	<updated>2008-01-28T15:59:19Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Karl Dubost</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Le 29 janv. 2008 à 08:06, Nicolas Krebs a écrit :
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; I have submit a comment in
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.w3.org/QA/2008/01/html5.html&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.w3.org/QA/2008/01/html5.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Hmmm I have to explore this. Your comment is nowhere in pending or &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;spam queues.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;--
&lt;br&gt;Karl Dubost - W3C
&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.w3.org/QA/&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.w3.org/QA/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;Be Strict To Be Cool
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;</content>
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-15148326</id>
	<title>Re: comment lost in http://www.w3.org/QA/</title>
	<published>2008-01-28T15:06:01Z</published>
	<updated>2008-01-28T15:06:01Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Nicolas Krebs</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;Hi Nicolas,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Hello, 
&lt;br&gt;&lt;div class='shrinkable-quote'&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;Le 25 janv. 2008 à 04:58, Nicolas Krebs a écrit :
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; I have &amp;quot;Leave a comment&amp;quot; in
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.w3.org/QA/2008/01/html5-is-html-and-xml.html&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.w3.org/QA/2008/01/html5-is-html-and-xml.html&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; but is has not been published, without refusal announce by email
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; (i gave my email address in th form). Is this right/normal/expected ?
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;So I went through the queue and your comment was not there.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;Could you make it again, I'll check today (monday japan, sunday &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;europe) or tomorrow if it is caught by the spam filter there should be &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;no reason, but we will see.
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br&gt;I have submit a comment in
&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.w3.org/QA/2008/01/html5.html&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.w3.org/QA/2008/01/html5.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;Information for the rest of the people.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;There are sometimes interesting comments left anonymously or without &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;any email address. We have decided as a policy to delete those.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;A technical note : it is write that 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;quot;Usage of some HTML tags (&amp;lt;a href&amp;gt;,&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;,&amp;lt;p&amp;gt;,&amp;lt;strong&amp;gt;,&amp;lt;em&amp;gt;,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;,&amp;lt;pre&amp;gt;, ) to mark up your comment is allowed.&amp;quot;
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Are the table, tr, th, td, elements allowed? 
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;--
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;Karl Dubost - W3C
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.w3.org/QA/&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.w3.org/QA/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;Be Strict To Be Cool
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Yeah. 
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;</content>
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-15126517</id>
	<title>Re: comment lost in http://www.w3.org/QA/</title>
	<published>2008-01-27T17:02:31Z</published>
	<updated>2008-01-27T17:02:31Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Karl Dubost</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">&lt;br&gt;Hi Nicolas,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Le 25 janv. 2008 à 04:58, Nicolas Krebs a écrit :
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; I have &amp;quot;Leave a comment&amp;quot; in
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.w3.org/QA/2008/01/html5-is-html-and-xml.html&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.w3.org/QA/2008/01/html5-is-html-and-xml.html&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; but is has not been published, without refusal announce by email
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; (i gave my email address in th form). Is this right/normal/expected ?
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;So I went through the queue and your comment was not there.
&lt;br&gt;Could you make it again, I'll check today (monday japan, sunday &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;europe) or tomorrow if it is caught by the spam filter there should be &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;no reason, but we will see.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Information for the rest of the people.
&lt;br&gt;There are sometimes interesting comments left anonymously or without &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;any email address. We have decided as a policy to delete those.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;--
&lt;br&gt;Karl Dubost - W3C
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&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;</content>
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