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weberp vtiger integration
by JoaoBR
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hi
somebody can give me some advice on this? The weberp 3.05 option regarding vtiger integration is still not enough to share data like suppliers and customers right? Where is my starting point? Full work like this thread describes (http://forums.vtiger.com/viewtopic.php?t=8480&start=0) is still necessary or is there a shortcut? thank's -- João A mensagem foi scaneada pelo sistema de e-mail e pode ser considerada segura. Service fornecido pelo Datacenter Matik https://datacenter.matik.com.br ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV _______________________________________________ Web-erp-developers mailing list Web-erp-developers@... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/web-erp-developers |
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Re: weberp vtiger integration
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Gareth has not been able to get to this we are waiting for him to contribute
his work in a format we can use. He's promised to do this but that was before Christmas. It may not eventuate and if you want to pick this up he has posted his work and provided a link to it noted in the earlier email you mention. Phil On Monday 19 February 2007 01:55, JoaoBR wrote: > hi > somebody can give me some advice on this? The weberp 3.05 option regarding > vtiger integration is still not enough to share data like suppliers and > customers right? Where is my starting point? Full work like this thread > describes (http://forums.vtiger.com/viewtopic.php?t=8480&start=0) is > still necessary or is there a shortcut? > > thank's ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV _______________________________________________ Web-erp-developers mailing list Web-erp-developers@... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/web-erp-developers |
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Re: weberp vtiger integration
by JoaoBR
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On Monday 19 February 2007 04:35, Phil Daintree wrote:
> Gareth has not been able to get to this we are waiting for him to > contribute his work in a format we can use. He's promised to do this but > that was before Christmas. > It may not eventuate and if you want to pick this up he has posted his work > and provided a link to it noted in the earlier email you mention. > I spend my weekend on this. Who did the integration option so I could talk to him? Seems only the following files are touched so far ./CustomerBranches.php ./SelectOrderItems.php ./SystemParameters.php ./includes/DefineCartClass.php in some occasions was missing the vtiger_ table prefix but still so it is far not enough. I think without a common customer, supplier, products tables it does not make sense unless weberp checks the final purchase and sales order in the vtiger tables and import them accordingly. I am not sure but my first impression is that the full integration is not reliable since weberp treats customers with branches and vtiger not. But maybe some more input here could clear things up. Are there other people which worked on this already? > > Phil > > On Monday 19 February 2007 01:55, JoaoBR wrote: > > hi > > somebody can give me some advice on this? The weberp 3.05 option > > regarding vtiger integration is still not enough to share data like > > suppliers and customers right? Where is my starting point? Full work like > > this thread describes > > (http://forums.vtiger.com/viewtopic.php?t=8480&start=0) is still > > necessary or is there a shortcut? > > > > thank's > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT > Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share > your opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash > http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV > _______________________________________________ > Web-erp-developers mailing list > Web-erp-developers@... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/web-erp-developers > > > > > > > > A mensagem foi scaneada pelo sistema de e-mail e pode ser considerada > segura. Service fornecido pelo Datacenter Matik > https://datacenter.matik.com.br -- João A mensagem foi scaneada pelo sistema de e-mail e pode ser considerada segura. Service fornecido pelo Datacenter Matik https://datacenter.matik.com.br ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV _______________________________________________ Web-erp-developers mailing list Web-erp-developers@... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/web-erp-developers |
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Re: weberp vtiger integration
by steve-42
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I believe what has been done is on our wiki under 3rd party development.
There should be a package that contains a previous version of webERP along with a previous version of vtiger ready to install and use. However, there are some glitches and restrictions I believe. Also I believe it does certain things but others it currently does not do. Not sure but others may be able to help once you get and try that package. Steve -----Original Message----- From: web-erp-developers-bounces@... [mailto:web-erp-developers-bounces@...] On Behalf Of JoaoBR Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2007 7:55 AM To: webERP Developers Subject: [WebERP-developers] weberp vtiger integration hi somebody can give me some advice on this? The weberp 3.05 option regarding vtiger integration is still not enough to share data like suppliers and customers right? Where is my starting point? Full work like this thread describes (http://forums.vtiger.com/viewtopic.php?t=8480&start=0) is still necessary or is there a shortcut? thank's -- João A mensagem foi scaneada pelo sistema de e-mail e pode ser considerada segura. Service fornecido pelo Datacenter Matik https://datacenter.matik.com.br ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV _______________________________________________ Web-erp-developers mailing list Web-erp-developers@... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/web-erp-developers -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.441 / Virus Database: 268.18.0/689 - Release Date: 2/15/2007 5:40 PM -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.441 / Virus Database: 268.18.0/689 - Release Date: 2/15/2007 5:40 PM ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV _______________________________________________ Web-erp-developers mailing list Web-erp-developers@... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/web-erp-developers |
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Re: weberp vtiger integration
by steve-42
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If I remember correctly it was only meant to connect customer. supplier and
item information. I don't think it was meant to bring orders from one to the other. Anyway, Gareth could tell you best or looking through what he provided. Steve -----Original Message----- From: web-erp-developers-bounces@... [mailto:web-erp-developers-bounces@...] On Behalf Of JoaoBR Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 8:25 AM To: webERP Developers Subject: Re: [WebERP-developers] weberp vtiger integration On Monday 19 February 2007 04:35, Phil Daintree wrote: > Gareth has not been able to get to this we are waiting for him to > contribute his work in a format we can use. He's promised to do this but > that was before Christmas. > It may not eventuate and if you want to pick this up he has posted his work > and provided a link to it noted in the earlier email you mention. > I spend my weekend on this. Who did the integration option so I could talk to him? Seems only the following files are touched so far ./CustomerBranches.php ./SelectOrderItems.php ./SystemParameters.php ./includes/DefineCartClass.php in some occasions was missing the vtiger_ table prefix but still so it is far not enough. I think without a common customer, supplier, products tables it does not make sense unless weberp checks the final purchase and sales order in the vtiger tables and import them accordingly. I am not sure but my first impression is that the full integration is not reliable since weberp treats customers with branches and vtiger not. But maybe some more input here could clear things up. Are there other people which worked on this already? > > Phil > > On Monday 19 February 2007 01:55, JoaoBR wrote: > > hi > > somebody can give me some advice on this? The weberp 3.05 option > > regarding vtiger integration is still not enough to share data like > > suppliers and customers right? Where is my starting point? Full work like > > this thread describes > > (http://forums.vtiger.com/viewtopic.php?t=8480&start=0) is still > > necessary or is there a shortcut? > > > > thank's > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT > Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share > your opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash > http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV > _______________________________________________ > Web-erp-developers mailing list > Web-erp-developers@... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/web-erp-developers > > > > > > > > A mensagem foi scaneada pelo sistema de e-mail e pode ser considerada > segura. Service fornecido pelo Datacenter Matik > https://datacenter.matik.com.br -- João A mensagem foi scaneada pelo sistema de e-mail e pode ser considerada segura. Service fornecido pelo Datacenter Matik https://datacenter.matik.com.br ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV _______________________________________________ Web-erp-developers mailing list Web-erp-developers@... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/web-erp-developers -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.441 / Virus Database: 268.18.0/689 - Release Date: 2/15/2007 5:40 PM -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.441 / Virus Database: 268.18.0/689 - Release Date: 2/15/2007 5:40 PM ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV _______________________________________________ Web-erp-developers mailing list Web-erp-developers@... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/web-erp-developers |
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Re: weberp vtiger integration
by JoaoBR
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On Monday 19 February 2007 14:31, Steve wrote:
> I believe what has been done is on our wiki under 3rd party development. > There should be a package that contains a previous version of webERP along > with a previous version of vtiger ready to install and use. However, there > are some glitches and restrictions I believe. Also I believe it does > certain things but others it currently does not do. Not sure but others > may be able to help once you get and try that package. would you mind to send me the wiki url because I can not find it thank's -- João A mensagem foi scaneada pelo sistema de e-mail e pode ser considerada segura. Service fornecido pelo Datacenter Matik https://datacenter.matik.com.br ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV _______________________________________________ Web-erp-developers mailing list Web-erp-developers@... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/web-erp-developers |
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Re: weberp vtiger integration
by steve-42
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Huh, I could have sworn Gareth's webERP-vtiger combination was in 3rd party
on the webERP wiki. Phil, do you know where it is? Now, I have a copy as I keep a copy of just about everything including webERP 0.2.7...hehe...only that copy could be older than what he's done since. Gareth, where are you?... Steve -----Original Message----- From: web-erp-developers-bounces@... [mailto:web-erp-developers-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Steve Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 11:32 AM To: 'webERP Developers' Subject: Re: [WebERP-developers] weberp vtiger integration I believe what has been done is on our wiki under 3rd party development. There should be a package that contains a previous version of webERP along with a previous version of vtiger ready to install and use. However, there are some glitches and restrictions I believe. Also I believe it does certain things but others it currently does not do. Not sure but others may be able to help once you get and try that package. Steve -----Original Message----- From: web-erp-developers-bounces@... [mailto:web-erp-developers-bounces@...] On Behalf Of JoaoBR Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2007 7:55 AM To: webERP Developers Subject: [WebERP-developers] weberp vtiger integration hi somebody can give me some advice on this? The weberp 3.05 option regarding vtiger integration is still not enough to share data like suppliers and customers right? Where is my starting point? Full work like this thread describes (http://forums.vtiger.com/viewtopic.php?t=8480&start=0) is still necessary or is there a shortcut? thank's -- João A mensagem foi scaneada pelo sistema de e-mail e pode ser considerada segura. Service fornecido pelo Datacenter Matik https://datacenter.matik.com.br ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV _______________________________________________ Web-erp-developers mailing list Web-erp-developers@... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/web-erp-developers -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.441 / Virus Database: 268.18.0/689 - Release Date: 2/15/2007 5:40 PM -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.441 / Virus Database: 268.18.0/689 - Release Date: 2/15/2007 5:40 PM ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV _______________________________________________ Web-erp-developers mailing list Web-erp-developers@... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/web-erp-developers -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.441 / Virus Database: 268.18.0/689 - Release Date: 2/15/2007 5:40 PM -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.441 / Virus Database: 268.18.0/689 - Release Date: 2/15/2007 5:40 PM ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV _______________________________________________ Web-erp-developers mailing list Web-erp-developers@... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/web-erp-developers |
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Re: weberp vtiger integration
by JoaoBR
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On Monday 19 February 2007 15:27, Steve wrote:
> Huh, I could have sworn Gareth's webERP-vtiger combination was in 3rd party > on the webERP wiki. Phil, do you know where it is? Now, I have a copy as > I keep a copy of just about everything including webERP 0.2.7...hehe...only > that copy could be older than what he's done since. > ok no problem, also vtiger had a greater version bump recently so it might not be worse looking up the old stuff because it might not be valid any more > Gareth, where are you?... > > Steve > > -----Original Message----- > From: web-erp-developers-bounces@... > [mailto:web-erp-developers-bounces@...] On Behalf Of > Steve Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 11:32 AM > To: 'webERP Developers' > Subject: Re: [WebERP-developers] weberp vtiger integration > > I believe what has been done is on our wiki under 3rd party development. > There should be a package that contains a previous version of webERP along > with a previous version of vtiger ready to install and use. However, there > are some glitches and restrictions I believe. Also I believe it does > certain things but others it currently does not do. Not sure but others > may be able to help once you get and try that package. > > Steve > > -----Original Message----- > From: web-erp-developers-bounces@... > [mailto:web-erp-developers-bounces@...] On Behalf Of > JoaoBR > Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2007 7:55 AM > To: webERP Developers > Subject: [WebERP-developers] weberp vtiger integration > > hi > somebody can give me some advice on this? The weberp 3.05 option regarding > vtiger integration is still not enough to share data like suppliers and > customers right? Where is my starting point? Full work like this thread > describes (http://forums.vtiger.com/viewtopic.php?t=8480&start=0) is > still necessary or is there a shortcut? > > thank's > -- > > João > > > > > > > > A mensagem foi scaneada pelo sistema de e-mail e pode ser considerada > segura. > Service fornecido pelo Datacenter Matik https://datacenter.matik.com.br > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT > Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share > your opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash > http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV > _______________________________________________ > Web-erp-developers mailing list > Web-erp-developers@... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/web-erp-developers > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.441 / Virus Database: 268.18.0/689 - Release Date: 2/15/2007 > 5:40 PM > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.441 / Virus Database: 268.18.0/689 - Release Date: 2/15/2007 > 5:40 PM > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT > Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share > your opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash > http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV > _______________________________________________ > Web-erp-developers mailing list > Web-erp-developers@... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/web-erp-developers > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.441 / Virus Database: 268.18.0/689 - Release Date: 2/15/2007 > 5:40 PM -- João A mensagem foi scaneada pelo sistema de e-mail e pode ser considerada segura. Service fornecido pelo Datacenter Matik https://datacenter.matik.com.br ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV _______________________________________________ Web-erp-developers mailing list Web-erp-developers@... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/web-erp-developers |
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Re: weberp vtiger integration
by Gareth Spanglett
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Hey all,
So sorry for the absence and I have a lot of news on a variety of fronts. First of all, Phil: sorry for all the delays. The integration is stable enough for me to finally get to the code for the on/off switch. I have the latest demo up and running: demo.mahsie.com The source code is available here: demo.mahsie.com/download/demo.tgz. It is includes the SQL file. I have put this up quickly so that it was available; however, everything is manual install at this time. That means: editing the config.php files in both vtiger_crm and webERP directories. If you create a database 'verp_demo' and import the verp_demo.sql file, you should be good to go; otherwise, update database name in config files and don't forget to rename the verp_demo company in webERP/companies. I preserved file permissions when I built the tarball. If something screws up, it is possible to set the permissions manually - there are not that many. I have moved this demo onto a dozen or so servers with great success, so hopefully it shouldn't be too painful for anyone. I have the integrated solution in full implementation with La Siembra Fair Trade Cooperative here in Ottawa (www.lasiembra.com). They have international buying, warehousing, manufacturing and selling and they are one of the larger fair trade cooperatives in Canada. The system has undergone intensive scrutiny: third party financial and technical audits were conducted and the webERP/VTiger CRM combo has come through with flying colours. I will be soliciting a testimonial in support of open source solutions, and webERP and VTiger in particular. Next, I have managed to gather a group here in Ottawa and we have formed an open source solutions company: Mahsie Open Source Solutions Inc. - www.mahsie.com. There are seven of us in total, but we are going to be rallying around open source for charities, non-profit organizaitons as well as small business and cooperatives. One of my associates is a certified management accountant with whom I have been working on this, and he has been very pleased with results as well. Of course, webERP and VTiger will feature prominently (site still under development) and I hope that we will be able to add to the ongoing development efforts. If you visit the demo, you will notice we have a new template in the works for webERP (VTiger-esque). We don't have a full manufacturing system, but La Siembra get third party companies to manufacture chocolate products from raw ingredients they buy - so we have a working item assembly/production run system (similar to order/shipment system). Some details: - it is running VTiger 4, not 5. We are working with VTiger 5, though it does not add a great deal of additional functionality per se (with the notable exception of campaign management). However, the code and file structure is very different - they cleaned up and moved around a lot of code and have added a lot more javascript for the GUI. So for now, we are still working with VTiger 4. - webERP and VTiger are integrated on various levels: customers and branches (with VTiger accounts), products, prices, pricelists, sales orders, weights and dims, currencies, taxes, sales types, areas, shippers and warehouse locations. - new clients and sales orders - whether created in either application - automatically appear in either program. New products are created in webERP, with a switch to determine if they are available to sales staff. - refined item assembly/production run system (help file coming), automatically generated manufacturing request. Additions to shipment system - additional information captured, automatically generated shipping request. - new template - a bunch of little tweaks and changes, mostly client requested - some new reports, additional columns available in the report writer, budget tool, etc. Steve, Phil - I will try a drop you a line separately, but everything seems to be working out here. Would love to talk to you about promoting webERP, the Wiki page, etc. We have a project management application that I would like to integrate next - it would not be a full-blown HR component, but would handle timesheets, tasks, projects, milestones, assignments, project reporting, etc. We are also tying it into Joomla for frontend - very promising. For your info, the demo site is tied together with Joomla 1.5 beta. Otherwise, life is crazy, I am hanging on by my fingertips, but it's looking good. Warmest regards, Gareth. JoaoBR wrote: > On Monday 19 February 2007 15:27, Steve wrote: > >> Huh, I could have sworn Gareth's webERP-vtiger combination was in 3rd party >> on the webERP wiki. Phil, do you know where it is? Now, I have a copy as >> I keep a copy of just about everything including webERP 0.2.7...hehe...only >> that copy could be older than what he's done since. >> >> > > ok no problem, also vtiger had a greater version bump recently so it might not > be worse looking up the old stuff because it might not be valid any more > > > >> Gareth, where are you?... >> >> Steve >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: web-erp-developers-bounces@... >> [mailto:web-erp-developers-bounces@...] On Behalf Of >> Steve Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 11:32 AM >> To: 'webERP Developers' >> Subject: Re: [WebERP-developers] weberp vtiger integration >> >> I believe what has been done is on our wiki under 3rd party development. >> There should be a package that contains a previous version of webERP along >> with a previous version of vtiger ready to install and use. However, there >> are some glitches and restrictions I believe. Also I believe it does >> certain things but others it currently does not do. Not sure but others >> may be able to help once you get and try that package. >> >> Steve >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: web-erp-developers-bounces@... >> [mailto:web-erp-developers-bounces@...] On Behalf Of >> JoaoBR >> Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2007 7:55 AM >> To: webERP Developers >> Subject: [WebERP-developers] weberp vtiger integration >> >> hi >> somebody can give me some advice on this? The weberp 3.05 option regarding >> vtiger integration is still not enough to share data like suppliers and >> customers right? Where is my starting point? Full work like this thread >> describes (http://forums.vtiger.com/viewtopic.php?t=8480&start=0) is >> still necessary or is there a shortcut? >> >> thank's >> -- >> >> João >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> A mensagem foi scaneada pelo sistema de e-mail e pode ser considerada >> segura. >> Service fornecido pelo Datacenter Matik https://datacenter.matik.com.br >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT >> Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share >> your opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash >> http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV >> _______________________________________________ >> Web-erp-developers mailing list >> Web-erp-developers@... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/web-erp-developers >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.5.441 / Virus Database: 268.18.0/689 - Release Date: 2/15/2007 >> 5:40 PM >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this outgoing message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.5.441 / Virus Database: 268.18.0/689 - Release Date: 2/15/2007 >> 5:40 PM >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> Take Surveys. Earn Cash. 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Re: weberp vtiger integration
by JoaoBR
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On Tuesday 20 February 2007 02:06, Gareth Spanglett wrote:
> So sorry for the absence and I have a lot of news on a variety of > fronts. First of all, Phil: sorry for all the delays. The integration > is stable enough for me to finally get to the code for the on/off switch. > ... Hi, firstable great work! I am glad that you didn't vanished ;) What you set up as demo is very close to what I need but I rather prefere to work on the latest versions of both. Not only for compatibility and easier upgrade but also and specially I think vtiger 5 is much better and has lots of improvements. I am not sure if I ever get what I want because I am trying out all kind of erp and crm for more than a year now. With your permission I am downloading your demo as I write and will spy your sources ok. When you talk about the on/off switch you are referring to the vtiger integration option in weberp right? This switch will only activate code to access the tables but will not do the integration right? Sooner or later this might turn into a new project since it is unlikely the vtiger and weberp merge. What are your plans? -- João A mensagem foi scaneada pelo sistema de e-mail e pode ser considerada segura. Service fornecido pelo Datacenter Matik https://datacenter.matik.com.br ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV _______________________________________________ Web-erp-developers mailing list Web-erp-developers@... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/web-erp-developers |
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Re: weberp vtiger integration
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The overall plan, at least for the official webERP project as far as I know,
is to move further and further toward API that clearly specifies and controls access between another system and itself. If you merge separate systems you will likely be alone with that single version forever. It will be difficult to impossible to work in new upgrades or get support because they will be combined and entangled as one. Steve -----Original Message----- From: web-erp-developers-bounces@... [mailto:web-erp-developers-bounces@...] On Behalf Of JoaoBR Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2007 7:56 AM To: webERP Developers Subject: Re: [WebERP-developers] weberp vtiger integration On Tuesday 20 February 2007 02:06, Gareth Spanglett wrote: > So sorry for the absence and I have a lot of news on a variety of > fronts. First of all, Phil: sorry for all the delays. The integration > is stable enough for me to finally get to the code for the on/off switch. > ... Hi, firstable great work! I am glad that you didn't vanished ;) What you set up as demo is very close to what I need but I rather prefere to work on the latest versions of both. Not only for compatibility and easier upgrade but also and specially I think vtiger 5 is much better and has lots of improvements. I am not sure if I ever get what I want because I am trying out all kind of erp and crm for more than a year now. With your permission I am downloading your demo as I write and will spy your sources ok. When you talk about the on/off switch you are referring to the vtiger integration option in weberp right? This switch will only activate code to access the tables but will not do the integration right? Sooner or later this might turn into a new project since it is unlikely the vtiger and weberp merge. What are your plans? -- João A mensagem foi scaneada pelo sistema de e-mail e pode ser considerada segura. Service fornecido pelo Datacenter Matik https://datacenter.matik.com.br ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV _______________________________________________ Web-erp-developers mailing list Web-erp-developers@... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/web-erp-developers -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.441 / Virus Database: 268.18.0/689 - Release Date: 2/15/2007 5:40 PM -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.441 / Virus Database: 268.18.3/693 - Release Date: 2/19/2007 5:01 PM ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV _______________________________________________ Web-erp-developers mailing list Web-erp-developers@... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/web-erp-developers |
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Re: weberp vtiger integration
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On Tuesday 20 February 2007 12:26, Steve wrote:
> The overall plan, at least for the official webERP project as far as I > know, is to move further and further toward API that clearly specifies and > controls access between another system and itself. If you merge separate that is good to know but not easy since the other products do change over time so it will be hard controlling what you do not have in hands. So probably it is better having does-less but does-it > systems you will likely be alone with that single version forever. It will > be difficult to impossible to work in new upgrades or get support because > they will be combined and entangled as one. yep that is the dark and scary side wouldn't it be easier working on the weberp sales module? What certainly is missing is only the possibility to make quotes which turn later into sales orders. But this is probably out of weberp's focus. But I think it is worth to think about because quotes are part of any business and it is not so far off. Leads and other CRM stuff is another story but quotes are close to stock and sales. What do you think? -- João A mensagem foi scaneada pelo sistema de e-mail e pode ser considerada segura. Service fornecido pelo Datacenter Matik https://datacenter.matik.com.br ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV _______________________________________________ Web-erp-developers mailing list Web-erp-developers@... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/web-erp-developers |
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Re: weberp vtiger integration
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Great news JoaoBR we have quotations that turn into sales orders already since February 2005. Its in 3.00 onwards. you simply flag a sales order as a quotation and option is available to print the quotation. Phil > > wouldn't it be easier working on the weberp sales module? What certainly is > missing is only the possibility to make quotes which turn later into sales > orders. But this is probably out of weberp's focus. But I think it is worth > to think about because quotes are part of any business and it is not so far > off. Leads and other CRM stuff is another story but quotes are close to > stock and sales. What do you think? ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV _______________________________________________ Web-erp-developers mailing list Web-erp-developers@... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/web-erp-developers |
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Re: weberp vtiger integration
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For people interested in CRM, you way want to check out xrms (http://www.xrms.org) xrms is an open source crm application also written in php. It's not as mature as vtiger/sugarcrm. but it has a plugin mechanism for new module developments. I guess it would be easier to create a xrms plugin linked to weberp, eg, a quotes plugin.
----- Original Message ----- From: "JoaoBR" <joao@...> To: <steve@...>; "webERP Developers" <web-erp-developers@...> Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2007 12:28 PM Subject: Re: [WebERP-developers] weberp vtiger integration On Tuesday 20 February 2007 12:26, Steve wrote: > The overall plan, at least for the official webERP project as far as I > know, is to move further and further toward API that clearly specifies and > controls access between another system and itself. If you merge separate that is good to know but not easy since the other products do change over time so it will be hard controlling what you do not have in hands. So probably it is better having does-less but does-it > systems you will likely be alone with that single version forever. It will > be difficult to impossible to work in new upgrades or get support because > they will be combined and entangled as one. yep that is the dark and scary side wouldn't it be easier working on the weberp sales module? What certainly is missing is only the possibility to make quotes which turn later into sales orders. But this is probably out of weberp's focus. But I think it is worth to think about because quotes are part of any business and it is not so far off. Leads and other CRM stuff is another story but quotes are close to stock and sales. What do you think? -- João A mensagem foi scaneada pelo sistema de e-mail e pode ser considerada segura. Service fornecido pelo Datacenter Matik https://datacenter.matik.com.br ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV _______________________________________________ Web-erp-developers mailing list Web-erp-developers@... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/web-erp-developers ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV _______________________________________________ Web-erp-developers mailing list Web-erp-developers@... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/web-erp-developers |
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Re: weberp vtiger integration
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Yes, the less you can get away with, the less you have to change as products
move forward for sure. I mean, if you integrate you're done from the start as discussed. The only other way is some communication between them. However, in any and every case it would always be necessary to investigate the communication between them when one or the other product changes. Maybe that change does not mean communications between are affected...and maybe it does. Even though most would wish it to just take care of itself....I think that's called RI (real intelligence) as opposed to AI. In webERP you can already create quotes then later turn them into orders. The only possible hang up is the fact that you need to enter the customer or use a "generic" customer to create a quote. The main connection between the two products as I see it is the customer info including address, etc. that needs to be synchronized. As far as quotes, orders, inventory, etc. I think it is ridiculous that vtiger (and others) even go there. They should concentrate on CRM functionality obviously lacking in their product instead of creating poor erp functionality! Steve -----Original Message----- From: web-erp-developers-bounces@... [mailto:web-erp-developers-bounces@...] On Behalf Of JoaoBR Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2007 3:29 PM To: steve@...; webERP Developers Subject: Re: [WebERP-developers] weberp vtiger integration On Tuesday 20 February 2007 12:26, Steve wrote: > The overall plan, at least for the official webERP project as far as I > know, is to move further and further toward API that clearly specifies and > controls access between another system and itself. If you merge separate that is good to know but not easy since the other products do change over time so it will be hard controlling what you do not have in hands. So probably it is better having does-less but does-it > systems you will likely be alone with that single version forever. It will > be difficult to impossible to work in new upgrades or get support because > they will be combined and entangled as one. yep that is the dark and scary side wouldn't it be easier working on the weberp sales module? What certainly is missing is only the possibility to make quotes which turn later into sales orders. But this is probably out of weberp's focus. But I think it is worth to think about because quotes are part of any business and it is not so far off. Leads and other CRM stuff is another story but quotes are close to stock and sales. What do you think? -- João A mensagem foi scaneada pelo sistema de e-mail e pode ser considerada segura. Service fornecido pelo Datacenter Matik https://datacenter.matik.com.br ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV _______________________________________________ Web-erp-developers mailing list Web-erp-developers@... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/web-erp-developers -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.441 / Virus Database: 268.18.3/693 - Release Date: 2/19/2007 5:01 PM -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.441 / Virus Database: 268.18.3/693 - Release Date: 2/19/2007 5:01 PM ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV _______________________________________________ Web-erp-developers mailing list Web-erp-developers@... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/web-erp-developers |
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Re: weberp vtiger integration
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Hey Brian, are you paying João? Just kidding. Brian can be found here, is
the Project Coordinator of XRMS CRM and also plays a part in SquirrelMail. Steve -----Original Message----- From: web-erp-developers-bounces@... [mailto:web-erp-developers-bounces@...] On Behalf Of H.Q. Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2007 7:49 PM To: webERP Developers Subject: Re: [WebERP-developers] weberp vtiger integration For people interested in CRM, you way want to check out xrms (http://www.xrms.org) xrms is an open source crm application also written in php. It's not as mature as vtiger/sugarcrm. but it has a plugin mechanism for new module developments. I guess it would be easier to create a xrms plugin linked to weberp, eg, a quotes plugin. ----- Original Message ----- From: "JoaoBR" <joao@...> To: <steve@...>; "webERP Developers" <web-erp-developers@...> Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2007 12:28 PM Subject: Re: [WebERP-developers] weberp vtiger integration On Tuesday 20 February 2007 12:26, Steve wrote: > The overall plan, at least for the official webERP project as far as I > know, is to move further and further toward API that clearly specifies and > controls access between another system and itself. If you merge separate that is good to know but not easy since the other products do change over time so it will be hard controlling what you do not have in hands. So probably it is better having does-less but does-it > systems you will likely be alone with that single version forever. It will > be difficult to impossible to work in new upgrades or get support because > they will be combined and entangled as one. yep that is the dark and scary side wouldn't it be easier working on the weberp sales module? What certainly is missing is only the possibility to make quotes which turn later into sales orders. But this is probably out of weberp's focus. But I think it is worth to think about because quotes are part of any business and it is not so far off. Leads and other CRM stuff is another story but quotes are close to stock and sales. What do you think? -- João A mensagem foi scaneada pelo sistema de e-mail e pode ser considerada segura. Service fornecido pelo Datacenter Matik https://datacenter.matik.com.br ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV _______________________________________________ Web-erp-developers mailing list Web-erp-developers@... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/web-erp-developers ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV _______________________________________________ Web-erp-developers mailing list Web-erp-developers@... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/web-erp-developers -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.441 / Virus Database: 268.18.3/693 - Release Date: 2/19/2007 5:01 PM -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.441 / Virus Database: 268.18.3/693 - Release Date: 2/19/2007 5:01 PM ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV _______________________________________________ Web-erp-developers mailing list Web-erp-developers@... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/web-erp-developers |
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Re: weberp vtiger integration
by Gareth Spanglett
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Hi all,
Steve is absolutely right - moving to VTiger 5 is already a challenge. The modifications as they are now are too significant and extensive to be made into a simple patch, but the goal is not to build a new application but to work with the best existing applications. I opted to 'merge' VTiger into webERP, but if I had to do it again I may opt to go the other way as webERP is technically easier to modify (less files, less tables, no javascript). In the end, both programs need to be modified, but one or the other has to have several tables and fields changed. This unfortunately can affect a lot of code. So for now, we are working with the last version of VTiger 4. The webERP files should be current or very recent versions as I was working from the CVS. By the way, the wiki integration is working on the demo - it is very popular with clients and coworkers alike. It's not a big deal, but I disagree that VTiger 5 adds a lot of new functionality - I find most of the changes to be either cosmetic (they did a ton of work on the GUI, but also added a lot more javascript) and organizational (they organized the file structure better, moved the javascript out of html templates and into their own .js files, tidied up a lot of legacy code, etc.). We want to and will integrate VTiger 5, but it will take several weeks of work to port the code because of all the changes. To further echo Steve's comments: I agree - VTiger should stick to CRM, webERP should stick to accounting/inventory/ERP. The amount of work and experience invested into both applications is why they are both popular and mature. webERP's strength is in its subtleties - for all its features, it's the attention to detail that makes webERP such a great accounting/ERP package - the tax-on-tax handling and the way it 'knows' what tax to charge is probably not thought of as major, but it is both subtle and critical to the whole system's success. Likewise, it is the small things that make VTiger such a great CRM and I would not underestimate the amount of effort, thought and experience needed to make something on par. I believe it's faster and easier to integrate existing, proven solutions than to necessarily build new ones from scratch. The big issue is mapping tables and core functions between different applications. I am looking around for a possible abstraction layer that would minimize the amount of customization required in each application - something that would mediate the data between the two table structures without a lot of code revision. An alternative may be to convince both development teams to agree to a common table and field naming structure - they can develop their applications as they see fit, but they agree to a naming convention and core structure (everyone agrees to use certain tablenames and fields for customers, suppliers, products, addressing fields have the same name, etc.). A core common table and field naming convention or base structure would go a very long way to speeding up development and would provide a basis for other open source integrations. Either way, my colleagues and I are betting the farm on open source software. Most of my clients over the last ten years have been charities and non-profits, with a bunch of small businesses for whom there are no other affordable alternatives. Furthermore, I would stake the quality of many open source apps over comparable proprietary systems - there is a lot of FUD and closed code hiding sloppy programming and undisclosed bugs. Both webERP and VTiger were major improvements over the commercial packages our client was using - in terms of stability, reliability, accuracy and transparency (let alone cost). So I have convinced a small group here in Ottawa to push forward with open source solutions. I have a couple of Linux/network guys, a Perl coder, I am doing a lot of the PHP and MySQL with another colleague, we have a couple of graphics/art/marketing guys, an e-learning specialist giving us a hand on documentation, a chartered management accountant, and a few other people in the mix. Next steps for the webERP/VTiger integration: distributing the code to interested developers, getting feedback and modifications, and discussing next steps. These include: getting VTiger 5 integrated, future integration/upgrade strategy, adding in project management (we are looking at Achievo at the moment and probably wouldn't be too hard to do) and document control, preformatted forms and reports, working on the report generator, unified login procedure ... there are lots of additional features/improvements/enhancements that could be be either standalone or integrated. Anyway, I've gone on long enough - and I still have to post on the VTiger forums as well since there has been a lot of interest from there too. The bottom line: we plan to aggressively promote and support various open source projects (including webERP, VTiger, and Joomla) and pursue opportunities to merge open source solutions to meet integrated management needs. The parts are all there - they just need to be put together. Steve wrote: > Yes, the less you can get away with, the less you have to change as products > move forward for sure. I mean, if you integrate you're done from the start > as discussed. The only other way is some communication between them. > However, in any and every case it would always be necessary to investigate > the communication between them when one or the other product changes. Maybe > that change does not mean communications between are affected...and maybe it > does. Even though most would wish it to just take care of itself....I think > that's called RI (real intelligence) as opposed to AI. > > In webERP you can already create quotes then later turn them into orders. > The only possible hang up is the fact that you need to enter the customer or > use a "generic" customer to create a quote. > > The main connection between the two products as I see it is the customer > info including address, etc. that needs to be synchronized. As far as > quotes, orders, inventory, etc. I think it is ridiculous that vtiger (and > others) even go there. They should concentrate on CRM functionality > obviously lacking in their product instead of creating poor erp > functionality! > > Steve > > -----Original Message----- > From: web-erp-developers-bounces@... > [mailto:web-erp-developers-bounces@...] On Behalf Of > JoaoBR > Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2007 3:29 PM > To: steve@...; webERP Developers > Subject: Re: [WebERP-developers] weberp vtiger integration > > On Tuesday 20 February 2007 12:26, Steve wrote: > >> The overall plan, at least for the official webERP project as far as I >> know, is to move further and further toward API that clearly specifies and >> controls access between another system and itself. If you merge separate >> > > that is good to know but not easy since the other products do change over > time > so it will be hard controlling what you do not have in hands. So probably it > > is better having does-less but does-it > > >> systems you will likely be alone with that single version forever. It >> > will > >> be difficult to impossible to work in new upgrades or get support because >> they will be combined and entangled as one. >> > > yep that is the dark and scary side > > wouldn't it be easier working on the weberp sales module? What certainly is > missing is only the possibility to make quotes which turn later into sales > orders. But this is probably out of weberp's focus. But I think it is worth > to think about because quotes are part of any business and it is not so far > off. Leads and other CRM stuff is another story but quotes are close to > stock > and sales. What do you think? > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Take Surveys. Earn Cash. 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Re: weberp vtiger integration
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maybe http://www.jitterbit.com/ could help.
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Re: weberp vtiger integration
by Amauryb
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Hi,
Anything new about the integration between WebERP and VTiger ? Version 5 is now compatible ? Thank you in advance. Amaury
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