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website draft 4, help wanted
Here it is:
http://percival-music.ca/blogfiles/out/lilypond-general_1.html#Home- would somebody volunteer to do the Examples already?!?! all you
need to do is play with lilypond files. No texinfo, html, or
git required. Guidelines on the Examples page.
... Mao, I expected that I'd need to arbitrate fights amongst you
guys as to who got to do this...
- I'd also like somebody to do the Features page, but I admit this
would be better done by somebody with a small amount of texinfo
knowledge. That said, there weren't be much formatting on the
page, so if somebody sends me a plaintext file with a few
images, I'll be happy.
- anybody know python and/or perl? We have some scripting /
script modifying tasks.
These are also listed on the "Help us" page.
Cheers,
- Graham
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Graham Percival wrote:
> Here it is:
> http://percival-music.ca/blogfiles/out/lilypond-general_1.html#Home>
> - would somebody volunteer to do the Examples already?!?! all you
> need to do is play with lilypond files. No texinfo, html, or
> git required. Guidelines on the Examples page.
> ... Mao, I expected that I'd need to arbitrate fights amongst you
> guys as to who got to do this...
What about this page from one of my own CC-licensed orchestral
pieces? If you think it's appropriate, I'll create a file with
the source code--right now it's scattered across multiple
directories with a Makefile and all sorts of stuff. It'll take
some work to make the minimal example, so I want to be sure you
really want it before I do it. :)
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Graham Percival wrote:
> - I'd also like somebody to do the Features page, but I admit this
> would be better done by somebody with a small amount of texinfo
> knowledge. That said, there weren't be much formatting on the
> page, so if somebody sends me a plaintext file with a few
> images, I'll be happy.
If you like, I could take care of the formatting on this. Not
sure if I'm the guy to do the actual writing of it, but the
texinfo stuff would be easy.
Jon
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Re: website draft 4, help wanted
On Fri, Jul 03, 2009 at 05:53:14PM -0500, Jonathan Kulp wrote:
> Graham Percival wrote:
>> - would somebody volunteer to do the Examples already?!?! all you
>> need to do is play with lilypond files. No texinfo, html, or
>> git required. Guidelines on the Examples page.
>> ... Mao, I expected that I'd need to arbitrate fights amongst you
>> guys as to who got to do this...
>
> What about this page from one of my own CC-licensed orchestral pieces?
> If you think it's appropriate, I'll create a file with the source
> code--right now it's scattered across multiple directories with a
> Makefile and all sorts of stuff. It'll take some work to make the
> minimal example, so I want to be sure you really want it before I do it.
To clarify:
- I want somebody to ORGANIZE the examples. As in "look at the
current input/*.ly examples, look at the inspirational
headwords, look at mutopia, ask for offers of help on -user, look
at snippets, make them up himself, etc.". Or some combination
thereof.
- we only accept public domain or "free" copyleft licensed works.
If you have a great example that you engraved for a composer,
that's great, but don't ask the composer for special permission to
distribute that exerpt on this page. Either get permission to put
the entire .ly snippet under a "free" license (it doesn't need to
be the entire work; if you can get permission to put bars 55-59
under a "free" license, fine).
Or just make up an example that looks similar, but is different.
i.e. instead of 5:13 tuplets, use 5:15 tuplets. Instead of "cis8.
feses,,2 \grace { a''8 } d16 ~ d8 ~ d32", make a snippet that does
"geses,,2 \grace {a''8 } e8 ~ e4. aes2 "
Yes, I'm eminently capable of organizing this myself (even if I'm
not certain how to spell "eminently"). That's why I'm NOT doing
it myself; I have nothing to prove in doing this, and there's many
more tasks that I should be doing.
Cheers,
- Graham
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Re: website draft 4, help wanted
I noticed on the new site that the section Windows/Packages/Install and
Uninstall needs to be written, so I did that. I uninstalled my Lily and
downloaded and installed the latest version. The text file is attached.
Hope this helps,
Chip
Graham Percival wrote:
> Here it is:
> http://percival-music.ca/blogfiles/out/lilypond-general_1.html#Home>
> - would somebody volunteer to do the Examples already?!?! all you
> need to do is play with lilypond files. No texinfo, html, or
> git required. Guidelines on the Examples page.
> ... Mao, I expected that I'd need to arbitrate fights amongst you
> guys as to who got to do this...
>
> - I'd also like somebody to do the Features page, but I admit this
> would be better done by somebody with a small amount of texinfo
> knowledge. That said, there weren't be much formatting on the
> page, so if somebody sends me a plaintext file with a few
> images, I'll be happy.
>
> - anybody know python and/or perl? We have some scripting /
> script modifying tasks.
>
> These are also listed on the "Help us" page.
>
>
> Cheers,
> - Graham
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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>
- Installing Lilypond -
- Download the latest package of Lilypond at
http://download.linuxaudio.org/lilypond/binaries/mingw/lilypond-2.12.2-1.mingw.exe- Locate the downloaded file and double-click on it to start the installer. You will be presented a window titled "Open File - Security Warning", click on Run to continue.
- You will be presented the License Agreement, read if desired, and click on the Next button.
- Preferably leave the destination folder to the default, else browse to choose a different location, and click on the Next button.
- Next is the Installation Options window, leave the three options checked, as you will want to have all of these installed. Click on the Next button.
- Installation now commences, wait a minute or less for installation to complete. There is a Show Details button that when clicked on will show all the files installed and where, nothing you necessarily need to look at. Click on the Finish button. Lilypond is now installed.
- Optional -
Install a good editor with Lilypond support built in - JEdit is a fine application, is free (open source) and has very good Lilypond integration.
- Uninstalling Lilypond -
There are two uninstallation routes -
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Thanks!
I added this to the page, but are you certain you need all those
steps, and/or are you certain the explanation needs to be as
verbose as it is? I would expect most windows users to be
familiar with things like accepting a license agreement or
clicking the Next button.
Also, is the first step true for all of ME, NT, 2000, XP, and
Vista?
Cheers,
- Graham
On Fri, Jul 03, 2009 at 04:48:21PM -0700, chip wrote:
> I noticed on the new site that the section Windows/Packages/Install and
> Uninstall needs to be written, so I did that. I uninstalled my Lily and
> downloaded and installed the latest version. The text file is attached.
> Hope this helps,
> Chip
>
> Graham Percival wrote:
>> Here it is:
>> http://percival-music.ca/blogfiles/out/lilypond-general_1.html#Home>>
>> - would somebody volunteer to do the Examples already?!?! all you
>> need to do is play with lilypond files. No texinfo, html, or
>> git required. Guidelines on the Examples page.
>> ... Mao, I expected that I'd need to arbitrate fights amongst you
>> guys as to who got to do this...
>>
>> - I'd also like somebody to do the Features page, but I admit this
>> would be better done by somebody with a small amount of texinfo
>> knowledge. That said, there weren't be much formatting on the
>> page, so if somebody sends me a plaintext file with a few
>> images, I'll be happy.
>>
>> - anybody know python and/or perl? We have some scripting /
>> script modifying tasks.
>>
>> These are also listed on the "Help us" page.
>>
>>
>> Cheers,
>> - Graham
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>> lilypond-user@...
>> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user>>
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>>
>
> - Installing Lilypond -
>
> - Download the latest package of Lilypond at
> http://download.linuxaudio.org/lilypond/binaries/mingw/lilypond-2.12.2-1.mingw.exe>
> - Locate the downloaded file and double-click on it to start the installer. You will be presented a window titled "Open File - Security Warning", click on Run to continue.
>
> - You will be presented the License Agreement, read if desired, and click on the Next button.
>
> - Preferably leave the destination folder to the default, else browse to choose a different location, and click on the Next button.
>
> - Next is the Installation Options window, leave the three options checked, as you will want to have all of these installed. Click on the Next button.
>
> - Installation now commences, wait a minute or less for installation to complete. There is a Show Details button that when clicked on will show all the files installed and where, nothing you necessarily need to look at. Click on the Finish button. Lilypond is now installed.
>
> - Optional -
>
> Install a good editor with Lilypond support built in - JEdit is a fine application, is free (open source) and has very good Lilypond integration.
>
>
> - Uninstalling Lilypond -
>
> There are two uninstallation routes -
>
> 1. Choose Uninstall from the Lilypond menu from the start menu
> 2. Open your Install/Uninstall Applications on the Control Panel, scroll down to Lilypond and click on the Uninstall buttom.
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On Fri, Jul 03, 2009 at 05:43:05PM -0700, chip wrote:
> Wow, that was quick, glad to see it was acceptable. Oh, I'm talking
> about the Windows installation instructions.
Err, wait a moment. I never said it was acceptable; I listed a
few problems with it. I added it because it was better than
nothing, but I definitely think it could benefit from more work!
Cheers,
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Re: website draft 4, help wanted
I posted my previous message before you posted yours.
Generally speaking, when it comes to Windows documentation - it is
almost always dummy proof. Showing every step one might come across
during the process. It applies to XP as that is what I use, should
apply equally to NT and 2000. Never seen ME, does anyone actually use
it? Vista has the same steps but a different control panel. I don't
have a Vista machine to get the exact steps.
Regards,
Chip
Graham Percival wrote:
Thanks!
I added this to the page, but are you certain you need all those
steps, and/or are you certain the explanation needs to be as
verbose as it is? I would expect most windows users to be
familiar with things like accepting a license agreement or
clicking the Next button.
Also, is the first step true for all of ME, NT, 2000, XP, and
Vista?
Cheers,
- Graham
On Fri, Jul 03, 2009 at 04:48:21PM -0700, chip wrote:
I noticed on the new site that the section Windows/Packages/Install and
Uninstall needs to be written, so I did that. I uninstalled my Lily and
downloaded and installed the latest version. The text file is attached.
Hope this helps,
Chip
Graham Percival wrote:
Here it is:
http://percival-music.ca/blogfiles/out/lilypond-general_1.html#Home
- would somebody volunteer to do the Examples already?!?! all you
need to do is play with lilypond files. No texinfo, html, or
git required. Guidelines on the Examples page.
... Mao, I expected that I'd need to arbitrate fights amongst you
guys as to who got to do this...
- I'd also like somebody to do the Features page, but I admit this
would be better done by somebody with a small amount of texinfo
knowledge. That said, there weren't be much formatting on the
page, so if somebody sends me a plaintext file with a few
images, I'll be happy.
- anybody know python and/or perl? We have some scripting /
script modifying tasks.
These are also listed on the "Help us" page.
Cheers,
- Graham
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- Installing Lilypond -
- Download the latest package of Lilypond at
http://download.linuxaudio.org/lilypond/binaries/mingw/lilypond-2.12.2-1.mingw.exe
- Locate the downloaded file and double-click on it to start the installer. You will be presented a window titled "Open File - Security Warning", click on Run to continue.
- You will be presented the License Agreement, read if desired, and click on the Next button.
- Preferably leave the destination folder to the default, else browse to choose a different location, and click on the Next button.
- Next is the Installation Options window, leave the three options checked, as you will want to have all of these installed. Click on the Next button.
- Installation now commences, wait a minute or less for installation to complete. There is a Show Details button that when clicked on will show all the files installed and where, nothing you necessarily need to look at. Click on the Finish button. Lilypond is now installed.
- Optional -
Install a good editor with Lilypond support built in - JEdit is a fine application, is free (open source) and has very good Lilypond integration.
- Uninstalling Lilypond -
There are two uninstallation routes -
1. Choose Uninstall from the Lilypond menu from the start menu
2. Open your Install/Uninstall Applications on the Control Panel, scroll down to Lilypond and click on the Uninstall buttom.
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Re: website draft 4, help wanted
chip wrote:
> Generally speaking, when it comes to Windows documentation - it
> is almost always dummy proof. Showing every step one might come
> across during the process. It applies to XP as that is what I
> use, should apply equally to NT and 2000. Never seen ME, does
> anyone actually use it? Vista has the same steps but a different
> control panel. I don't have a Vista machine to get the exact
> steps.
Graham,
I'm with Chip here. Explicit, unambiguous, fool-proof. Have you
noticed the troubles I've had recently with abbreviated
instructions? (: Assume nothing; assume the user is a robot.
Chip,
I can't say for certain, but on Windows I seem to recall that the
two uninstall options are not always the same? The rumor I hear the
most often is that the uninstall.exe provided by the program
usually knows how to uninstall the program (and all of its
potentially disjunct files) better than the control panel uninstall
function, which may accidentally leave some distant files undeleted
(perhaps not a big issue with LilyPond, though). But a lot of
programs store files in some arcane places like the Application
Data or Local Settings folders. Not to mention there are at least 3
different folders called Application Data in the directory tree.
What a dumb design.
The other thing is that LilyPond's uninstall.exe knows which
program files you've altered and smartly leaves those undeleted. So
if you fiddle around with some settings in the scm folder, you
won't accidentally delete your changes when you uninstall. Off
hand, I don't know if the Control Panel uninstall is that smart.
If anyone can comment on these issues, I'd be interested.
- Mark
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On Jul 4, 2009, at 3:49 AM, Mark Polesky wrote:
> chip wrote:
>> Generally speaking, when it comes to Windows documentation - it
>> is almost always dummy proof. Showing every step one might come
>> across during the process. It applies to XP as that is what I
>> use, should apply equally to NT and 2000. Never seen ME, does
>> anyone actually use it? Vista has the same steps but a different
>> control panel. I don't have a Vista machine to get the exact
>> steps.
>
> Graham,
> I'm with Chip here. Explicit, unambiguous, fool-proof.
The question is whether these need to be on the Web page or in the
readme that accompanies the file when the user downloads it.
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Tim McNamara wrote:
>
> On Jul 4, 2009, at 3:49 AM, Mark Polesky wrote:
>
>> chip wrote:
>>> Generally speaking, when it comes to Windows documentation - it
>>> is almost always dummy proof. Showing every step one might come
>>> across during the process. It applies to XP as that is what I
>>> use, should apply equally to NT and 2000. Never seen ME, does
>>> anyone actually use it? Vista has the same steps but a different
>>> control panel. I don't have a Vista machine to get the exact
>>> steps.
>>
>> Graham,
>> I'm with Chip here. Explicit, unambiguous, fool-proof.
>
> The question is whether these need to be on the Web page or in the
> readme that accompanies the file when the user downloads it.
Putting them on the web page makes sure that the person downloading will
see and read the instructions. Putting them in a readme gives no
assurance that it will be read. Besides, does it really take up much
space on the page? No harm in having it on the web page, IMO.
Mark,
I don't know if there is a difference between using the application
uninstall or the control panel uninstall, though from what I've seen the
general consensus is to preferably use the application uninstall, but
I've never seen any reason given as to why.
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Re: website draft 4, help wanted
Graham Percival wrote:
>
> To clarify:
>
> - I want somebody to ORGANIZE the examples. As in "look at the
> current input/*.ly examples, look at the inspirational
> headwords, look at mutopia, ask for offers of help on -user, look
> at snippets, make them up himself, etc.". Or some combination
> thereof.
I guess no one has volunteered for this yet? If not I'll take care
of it.
>
> - we only accept public domain or "free" copyleft licensed works.
> If you have a great example that you engraved for a composer,
> that's great, but don't ask the composer for special permission to
> distribute that exerpt on this page. Either get permission to put
> the entire .ly snippet under a "free" license (it doesn't need to
> be the entire work; if you can get permission to put bars 55-59
> under a "free" license, fine).
> Or just make up an example that looks similar, but is different.
> i.e. instead of 5:13 tuplets, use 5:15 tuplets. Instead of "cis8.
> feses,,2 \grace { a''8 } d16 ~ d8 ~ d32", make a snippet that does
> "geses,,2 \grace {a''8 } e8 ~ e4. aes2 "
The example I sent was my own composition, CC-licensed. Is that
not free enough? I just made up and typeset a 2nd-Viennese style
excerpt, too. (attached)
I'll gather up some other examples as well. Other folks, feel
free to make suggestions. :)
Jon
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> I just made up and typeset a 2nd-Viennese style excerpt,
> too. (attached)
A small grammatical correction:
Ohne Händchen, mit *den* Füßen zu spielen
BTW, is this title your invention or do you cite something? The
German diminutive `Händchen' has some additional connotations which
makes this `joke' sound a bit strange, especially because you don't
use the expected parallel diminutive, `Füßchen'.
-> Händchen halten
-> ein gutes Händchen haben für etwas
-> ein glückliches Händchen haben
Werner
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Werner LEMBERG wrote:
>> I just made up and typeset a 2nd-Viennese style excerpt,
>> too. (attached)
>
> A small grammatical correction:
>
> Ohne Händchen, mit *den* Füßen zu spielen
>
> BTW, is this title your invention or do you cite something? The
> German diminutive `Händchen' has some additional connotations which
> makes this `joke' sound a bit strange, especially because you don't
> use the expected parallel diminutive, `Füßchen'.
>
> -> Händchen halten
> -> ein gutes Händchen haben für etwas
> -> ein glückliches Händchen haben
>
Hehehe, thanks, Werner. My wife (a German professor) already
corrected the "den" part. She didn't mention the connotations of
Händchen though. And yes, I made it up. :) Would it be better
simply to say Hände instead, or to change it to Füßchen?
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>> A small grammatical correction:
>> Ohne Händchen, mit *den* Füßen zu spielen
>> BTW, is this title your invention or do you cite something? The
>> German diminutive `Händchen' has some additional connotations which
>> makes this `joke' sound a bit strange, especially because you don't
>> use the expected parallel diminutive, `Füßchen'.
>> -> Händchen halten
>> -> ein gutes Händchen haben für etwas
>> -> ein glückliches Händchen haben
>
> Hehehe, thanks, Werner. My wife (a German professor) already corrected
> the "den" part.
Vertrauen ist gut, Kontrolle ist besser :-)
> She didn't mention the connotations of Händchen though. And yes, I
> made it up. :) Would it be better simply to say Hände instead, or to
> change it to Füßchen?
I suppose this your piano piece is written for Qwerty Uiop[1], the
Gelatine Prince from 2364th dimension, who actually plays piano with
his jelly feet... IMHO, using `Hände' is better.
Werner
[1] See
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Thirteen_and_a_Half_Lives_of_Captain_Bluebear I strongly recommend that you and your wife read this extremely
funny book -- the original is in German, where the prince is
called Qwert Zuiopü. :-)
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Werner LEMBERG wrote:
>
> I suppose this your piano piece is written for Qwerty Uiop[1], the
> Gelatine Prince from 2364th dimension, who actually plays piano with
> his jelly feet... IMHO, using `Hände' is better.
Haha! I wasn't aware of the Qwerty Prince, but perhaps a
dedication line is in order. I've changed it to "Hände."
>
> I strongly recommend that you and your wife read this extremely
> funny book -- the original is in German, where the prince is
> called Qwert Zuiopü. :-)
I've placed a request at the public library. Thanks for the
recommendation. Sounds like an excellent summer read. :)
Jon
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On vr, 2009-07-03 at 14:41 -0700, Graham Percival wrote:
> Here it is:
> http://percival-music.ca/blogfiles/out/lilypond-general_1.html#HomeOkay, so this is starting to be really great.
Now, I know you have not been spending too much work on the slick looks
side of things, but do we have volunteers who are willing and able to
make this look slick/crisp/attractive? I feel we really need to
present ourselves in a more attractive/eye-pleasing candy way.
Just by accident I looked upon Valentin's page, if only we would
be able to steel the header images/gradient and possibly put nicely
rounded tabs into the bottom of that header gradient
[CSS stealing suggestion: http://tinto-taal.nl ] and also steal
other rounded stuff?
Also, Valentin's page uses two nice basic colours, light blue-ish
and dark-greenish.
A lot of [very important] work on content and structure has been
done and discussed about, I'd really like to see some work/proposals/
discussions on how the site could look/feel, looking through your
eyelashes.
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2009/7/6 Jan Nieuwenhuizen < janneke-list@...>:
> Just by accident I looked upon Valentin's page, if only we would
> be able to steel the header images/gradient and possibly put nicely
> rounded tabs into the bottom of that header gradient
> [CSS stealing suggestion: http://tinto-taal.nl ] and also steal
> other rounded stuff?
Interesting. Does that kind of accidents happen to you a lot? :)
> Also, Valentin's page uses two nice basic colours, light blue-ish
> and dark-greenish.
I don't know if you're referring to my personal website or the
news.lilynet.net website. Much less rounded stuff on that last one,
though.
As for me, I still haven't managed to get over the
http://meyerweb.com/eric/css/edge/complexspiral/glassy.html that has
been posted here some days ago. Actually, this has made me want to
redo my whole website. No, actually, this has made me want to close my
website and never ever pretend I know a thing or two about CSS again
:)
> A lot of [very important] work on content and structure has been
> done and discussed about, I'd really like to see some work/proposals/
> discussions on how the site could look/feel, looking through your
> eyelashes.
The rounded thingy I used is actually a JavaScript hack from
http://www.html.it/articoli/niftycube/index.htmlFirefox has native support for rounded corners, but it's not
compatible with other browsers, and the rounded parts are not
anti-aliased (and therefore look a bit rough).
JavaScript hacks are ugly, and should be avoided whenever possible.
Other than that, it is possible to make frames rounded by simply using
background images; however this cannot be used together with a
background radient. (And, hell, there still are 25% people out there
who can even display alpha-enabled PNG images correctly).
Yeah, life sucks -- maybe I could use some of your Avatar thing right now :)
Regards,
Valentin
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Re: website draft 4, help wanted
2009/7/6 Valentin Villenave < v.villenave@...>:
> 2009/7/6 Jan Nieuwenhuizen < janneke-list@...>:
>> Just by accident I looked upon Valentin's page, if only we would
>> be able to steel the header images/gradient and possibly put nicely
>> rounded tabs into the bottom of that header gradient
>> [CSS stealing suggestion: http://tinto-taal.nl ] and also steal
>> other rounded stuff?
>
> Interesting. Does that kind of accidents happen to you a lot? :)
>
>> Also, Valentin's page uses two nice basic colours, light blue-ish
>> and dark-greenish.
>
> I don't know if you're referring to my personal website or the
> news.lilynet.net website. Much less rounded stuff on that last one,
> though.
>
> As for me, I still haven't managed to get over the
> http://meyerweb.com/eric/css/edge/complexspiral/glassy.html that has
> been posted here some days ago. Actually, this has made me want to
> redo my whole website. No, actually, this has made me want to close my
> website and never ever pretend I know a thing or two about CSS again
> :)
>
>> A lot of [very important] work on content and structure has been
>> done and discussed about, I'd really like to see some work/proposals/
>> discussions on how the site could look/feel, looking through your
>> eyelashes.
>
> The rounded thingy I used is actually a JavaScript hack from
> http://www.html.it/articoli/niftycube/index.html>
> Firefox has native support for rounded corners, but it's not
> compatible with other browsers, and the rounded parts are not
> anti-aliased (and therefore look a bit rough).
>
> JavaScript hacks are ugly, and should be avoided whenever possible.
> Other than that, it is possible to make frames rounded by simply using
> background images; however this cannot be used together with a
> background radient. (And, hell, there still are 25% people out there
> who can even display alpha-enabled PNG images correctly).
>
> Yeah, life sucks -- maybe I could use some of your Avatar thing right now :)
>
I'd like to suggest intermediate solutions like mozilla.com , it has
rounded corners and gradients, but the background is mostly white.
Background gradients can be nightmarish for designers, but
partially-filled backgrounds with a limited-size image look beautiful
and they are less problematic. Also, not everything is inside boxes,
which obviously tend to be rectangular. That gives a general feeling
of openess and freedom.
--
Francisco Vila. Badajoz (Spain)
www.paconet.org
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