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by James Cairney :: Rate this Message:

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Hi

Does anyone know if there is a program like wordpad with numbered rows.  I
heard somewhere that there is.  This would make it easier for when I get an
error message for line 563!

Thanks in advance

James


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Re: wordpad

by iain duncan :: Rate this Message:

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James, it is well worth the time learning gvim or emacs. Just try and
learn a few new features every week, and soon you'll be editing scores
and instruments several times as efficiently! =)

Iain

James Cairney wrote:

> Hi
>
> Does anyone know if there is a program like wordpad with numbered rows.  
> I heard somewhere that there is.  This would make it easier for when I
> get an error message for line 563!
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> James
>
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by Michael Gogins :: Rate this Message:

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Scitex is an excellent choice, more intuitive than Emacs yet quite functional.

Regards,
Mike

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From: Iain Duncan <iainduncan@...>
Sent: Jul 16, 2005 4:47 PM
To: "Making electronic dance music with csound." <csoundtekno@...>
Subject: Re: [CsndTek] wordpad

James, it is well worth the time learning gvim or emacs. Just try and
learn a few new features every week, and soon you'll be editing scores
and instruments several times as efficiently! =)

Iain

James Cairney wrote:

> Hi
>
> Does anyone know if there is a program like wordpad with numbered rows.  
> I heard somewhere that there is.  This would make it easier for when I
> get an error message for line 563!
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> James
>
>
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Re: wordpad

by iain duncan :: Rate this Message:

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Personally, I'm into gvim. It's really easy to script gvim using Python,
which I already use, instead of having to learn lisp. I've found that
extremely handy for patching instruments and scores when I'm going to
make a similar change to a whole wack of files or sections.

What does everyone else use?

Iain


Michael Gogins wrote:

> Scitex is an excellent choice, more intuitive than Emacs yet quite functional.
>
> Regards,
> Mike
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Iain Duncan <iainduncan@...>
> Sent: Jul 16, 2005 4:47 PM
> To: "Making electronic dance music with csound." <csoundtekno@...>
> Subject: Re: [CsndTek] wordpad
>
> James, it is well worth the time learning gvim or emacs. Just try and
> learn a few new features every week, and soon you'll be editing scores
> and instruments several times as efficiently! =)
>
> Iain
>
> James Cairney wrote:
>
>>Hi
>>
>>Does anyone know if there is a program like wordpad with numbered rows.  
>>I heard somewhere that there is.  This would make it easier for when I
>>get an error message for line 563!
>>
>>Thanks in advance
>>
>>James
>>
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Re: wordpad

by Stéphane Rollandin :: Rate this Message:

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James Cairney wrote:
> Hi
>
> Does anyone know if there is a program like wordpad with numbered rows.  
> I heard somewhere that there is.  This would make it easier for when I
> get an error message for line 563!

It's been years that I'm using Metapad as a replacement for notepad. It
has every feature you might think of, and is still very light-weight and
transparent:

http://www.liquidninja.com/metapad/


Stef




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Re: wordpad

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blue. It's great, and it's got looping options, which
makes it more friendly to techno/contemporary music
development.

--- Iain Duncan <iainduncan@...> wrote:

> Personally, I'm into gvim. It's really easy to
> script gvim using Python,
> which I already use, instead of having to learn
> lisp. I've found that
> extremely handy for patching instruments and scores
> when I'm going to
> make a similar change to a whole wack of files or
> sections.
>
> What does everyone else use?
>
> Iain
>
>
> Michael Gogins wrote:
> > Scitex is an excellent choice, more intuitive than
> Emacs yet quite functional.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Mike
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Iain Duncan <iainduncan@...>
> > Sent: Jul 16, 2005 4:47 PM
> > To: "Making electronic dance music with csound."
> <csoundtekno@...>
> > Subject: Re: [CsndTek] wordpad
> >
> > James, it is well worth the time learning gvim or
> emacs. Just try and
> > learn a few new features every week, and soon
> you'll be editing scores
> > and instruments several times as efficiently! =)
> >
> > Iain
> >
> > James Cairney wrote:
> >
> >>Hi
> >>
> >>Does anyone know if there is a program like
> wordpad with numbered rows.  
> >>I heard somewhere that there is.  This would make
> it easier for when I
> >>get an error message for line 563!
> >>
> >>Thanks in advance
> >>
> >>James
> >>
> >>
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Re: wordpad

by iain duncan :: Rate this Message:

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> blue. It's great, and it's got looping options, which
> makes it more friendly to techno/contemporary music
> development.

Yeah, Steven's stuff is very cool. My long range plan is to streamline
all my python composition tools, rewrite my user interface stuff in
C/C++ so as to be able to use those languages for large code management,
and then work on a way to integrate them with something like blue.
That'll be a ways a way though. ; )

Iain


> --- Iain Duncan <iainduncan@...> wrote:
>
>
>>Personally, I'm into gvim. It's really easy to
>>script gvim using Python,
>>which I already use, instead of having to learn
>>lisp. I've found that
>>extremely handy for patching instruments and scores
>>when I'm going to
>>make a similar change to a whole wack of files or
>>sections.
>>
>>What does everyone else use?
>>
>>Iain
>>
>>
>>Michael Gogins wrote:
>>
>>>Scitex is an excellent choice, more intuitive than
>>
>>Emacs yet quite functional.
>>
>>>Regards,
>>>Mike
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: Iain Duncan <iainduncan@...>
>>>Sent: Jul 16, 2005 4:47 PM
>>>To: "Making electronic dance music with csound."
>>
>><csoundtekno@...>
>>
>>>Subject: Re: [CsndTek] wordpad
>>>
>>>James, it is well worth the time learning gvim or
>>
>>emacs. Just try and
>>
>>>learn a few new features every week, and soon
>>
>>you'll be editing scores
>>
>>>and instruments several times as efficiently! =)
>>>
>>>Iain
>>>
>>>James Cairney wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Hi
>>>>
>>>>Does anyone know if there is a program like
>>
>>wordpad with numbered rows.  
>>
>>>>I heard somewhere that there is.  This would make
>>
>>it easier for when I
>>
>>>>get an error message for line 563!
>>>>
>>>>Thanks in advance
>>>>
>>>>James
>>>>
>>>>
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RE: wordpad

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What are Scitex and gvim?

Rich

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From: csoundtekno-bounces@...
[mailto:csoundtekno-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Iain Duncan
Sent: 18 July 2005 20:58
To: Making electronic dance music with csound.
Subject: Re: [CsndTek] wordpad

> blue. It's great, and it's got looping options, which
> makes it more friendly to techno/contemporary music
> development.

Yeah, Steven's stuff is very cool. My long range plan is to streamline
all my python composition tools, rewrite my user interface stuff in
C/C++ so as to be able to use those languages for large code management,
and then work on a way to integrate them with something like blue.
That'll be a ways a way though. ; )

Iain


> --- Iain Duncan <iainduncan@...> wrote:
>
>
>>Personally, I'm into gvim. It's really easy to
>>script gvim using Python,
>>which I already use, instead of having to learn
>>lisp. I've found that
>>extremely handy for patching instruments and scores
>>when I'm going to
>>make a similar change to a whole wack of files or
>>sections.
>>
>>What does everyone else use?
>>
>>Iain
>>
>>
>>Michael Gogins wrote:
>>
>>>Scitex is an excellent choice, more intuitive than
>>
>>Emacs yet quite functional.
>>
>>>Regards,
>>>Mike
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: Iain Duncan <iainduncan@...>
>>>Sent: Jul 16, 2005 4:47 PM
>>>To: "Making electronic dance music with csound."
>>
>><csoundtekno@...>
>>
>>>Subject: Re: [CsndTek] wordpad
>>>
>>>James, it is well worth the time learning gvim or
>>
>>emacs. Just try and
>>
>>>learn a few new features every week, and soon
>>
>>you'll be editing scores
>>
>>>and instruments several times as efficiently! =)
>>>
>>>Iain
>>>
>>>James Cairney wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Hi
>>>>
>>>>Does anyone know if there is a program like
>>
>>wordpad with numbered rows.  
>>
>>>>I heard somewhere that there is.  This would make
>>
>>it easier for when I
>>
>>>>get an error message for line 563!
>>>>
>>>>Thanks in advance
>>>>
>>>>James
>>>>
>>>>
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Re: wordpad

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Google.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard Burford" <richyburford@...>
To: "'Making electronic dance music with csound.'" <csoundtekno@...>
Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2005 7:09 AM
Subject: RE: [CsndTek] wordpad


> What are Scitex and gvim?
>
> Rich
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: csoundtekno-bounces@...
> [mailto:csoundtekno-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Iain Duncan
> Sent: 18 July 2005 20:58
> To: Making electronic dance music with csound.
> Subject: Re: [CsndTek] wordpad
>
>> blue. It's great, and it's got looping options, which
>> makes it more friendly to techno/contemporary music
>> development.
>
> Yeah, Steven's stuff is very cool. My long range plan is to streamline
> all my python composition tools, rewrite my user interface stuff in
> C/C++ so as to be able to use those languages for large code management,
> and then work on a way to integrate them with something like blue.
> That'll be a ways a way though. ; )
>
> Iain
>
>
>> --- Iain Duncan <iainduncan@...> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Personally, I'm into gvim. It's really easy to
>>>script gvim using Python,
>>>which I already use, instead of having to learn
>>>lisp. I've found that
>>>extremely handy for patching instruments and scores
>>>when I'm going to
>>>make a similar change to a whole wack of files or
>>>sections.
>>>
>>>What does everyone else use?
>>>
>>>Iain
>>>
>>>
>>>Michael Gogins wrote:
>>>
>>>>Scitex is an excellent choice, more intuitive than
>>>
>>>Emacs yet quite functional.
>>>
>>>>Regards,
>>>>Mike
>>>>
>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>From: Iain Duncan <iainduncan@...>
>>>>Sent: Jul 16, 2005 4:47 PM
>>>>To: "Making electronic dance music with csound."
>>>
>>><csoundtekno@...>
>>>
>>>>Subject: Re: [CsndTek] wordpad
>>>>
>>>>James, it is well worth the time learning gvim or
>>>
>>>emacs. Just try and
>>>
>>>>learn a few new features every week, and soon
>>>
>>>you'll be editing scores
>>>
>>>>and instruments several times as efficiently! =)
>>>>
>>>>Iain
>>>>
>>>>James Cairney wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Hi
>>>>>
>>>>>Does anyone know if there is a program like
>>>
>>>wordpad with numbered rows.
>>>
>>>>>I heard somewhere that there is.  This would make
>>>
>>>it easier for when I
>>>
>>>>>get an error message for line 563!
>>>>>
>>>>>Thanks in advance
>>>>>
>>>>>James
>>>>>
>>>>>
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RE: wordpad

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I did that already man!

I could not find anything but printer and graphics stuff for Scitex which I
assume, perhaps incorrectly, is unrelated to wordpad.

Gvim is a linux based text editor for programming with highlighted text
colours etc??

Rich

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Sent: 19 July 2005 13:32
To: Making electronic dance music with csound.
Subject: Re: [CsndTek] wordpad

Google.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard Burford" <richyburford@...>
To: "'Making electronic dance music with csound.'" <csoundtekno@...>
Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2005 7:09 AM
Subject: RE: [CsndTek] wordpad


> What are Scitex and gvim?
>
> Rich
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: csoundtekno-bounces@...
> [mailto:csoundtekno-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Iain Duncan
> Sent: 18 July 2005 20:58
> To: Making electronic dance music with csound.
> Subject: Re: [CsndTek] wordpad
>
>> blue. It's great, and it's got looping options, which
>> makes it more friendly to techno/contemporary music
>> development.
>
> Yeah, Steven's stuff is very cool. My long range plan is to streamline
> all my python composition tools, rewrite my user interface stuff in
> C/C++ so as to be able to use those languages for large code management,
> and then work on a way to integrate them with something like blue.
> That'll be a ways a way though. ; )
>
> Iain
>
>
>> --- Iain Duncan <iainduncan@...> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Personally, I'm into gvim. It's really easy to
>>>script gvim using Python,
>>>which I already use, instead of having to learn
>>>lisp. I've found that
>>>extremely handy for patching instruments and scores
>>>when I'm going to
>>>make a similar change to a whole wack of files or
>>>sections.
>>>
>>>What does everyone else use?
>>>
>>>Iain
>>>
>>>
>>>Michael Gogins wrote:
>>>
>>>>Scitex is an excellent choice, more intuitive than
>>>
>>>Emacs yet quite functional.
>>>
>>>>Regards,
>>>>Mike
>>>>
>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>From: Iain Duncan <iainduncan@...>
>>>>Sent: Jul 16, 2005 4:47 PM
>>>>To: "Making electronic dance music with csound."
>>>
>>><csoundtekno@...>
>>>
>>>>Subject: Re: [CsndTek] wordpad
>>>>
>>>>James, it is well worth the time learning gvim or
>>>
>>>emacs. Just try and
>>>
>>>>learn a few new features every week, and soon
>>>
>>>you'll be editing scores
>>>
>>>>and instruments several times as efficiently! =)
>>>>
>>>>Iain
>>>>
>>>>James Cairney wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Hi
>>>>>
>>>>>Does anyone know if there is a program like
>>>
>>>wordpad with numbered rows.
>>>
>>>>>I heard somewhere that there is.  This would make
>>>
>>>it easier for when I
>>>
>>>>>get an error message for line 563!
>>>>>
>>>>>Thanks in advance
>>>>>
>>>>>James
>>>>>
>>>>>
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Sorry, my mistake. It is scintilla, or to be really precise SciTE, not scitex:

http://www.scintilla.org/SciTE.html

This is better than emacs for lots of things especially if you are used to Windows style key bindings, and of course takes up much much less room than emacs. What is lacking is source level debugging.

Regards,
Mike





-----Original Message-----
From: Richard Burford <richyburford@...>
Sent: Jul 19, 2005 9:05 AM
To: "'Making electronic dance music with csound.'" <csoundtekno@...>
Subject: RE: [CsndTek] wordpad

I did that already man!

I could not find anything but printer and graphics stuff for Scitex which I
assume, perhaps incorrectly, is unrelated to wordpad.

Gvim is a linux based text editor for programming with highlighted text
colours etc??

Rich

-----Original Message-----
From: csoundtekno-bounces@...
[mailto:csoundtekno-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Michael Gogins
Sent: 19 July 2005 13:32
To: Making electronic dance music with csound.
Subject: Re: [CsndTek] wordpad

Google.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard Burford" <richyburford@...>
To: "'Making electronic dance music with csound.'" <csoundtekno@...>
Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2005 7:09 AM
Subject: RE: [CsndTek] wordpad


> What are Scitex and gvim?
>
> Rich
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: csoundtekno-bounces@...
> [mailto:csoundtekno-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Iain Duncan
> Sent: 18 July 2005 20:58
> To: Making electronic dance music with csound.
> Subject: Re: [CsndTek] wordpad
>
>> blue. It's great, and it's got looping options, which
>> makes it more friendly to techno/contemporary music
>> development.
>
> Yeah, Steven's stuff is very cool. My long range plan is to streamline
> all my python composition tools, rewrite my user interface stuff in
> C/C++ so as to be able to use those languages for large code management,
> and then work on a way to integrate them with something like blue.
> That'll be a ways a way though. ; )
>
> Iain
>
>
>> --- Iain Duncan <iainduncan@...> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Personally, I'm into gvim. It's really easy to
>>>script gvim using Python,
>>>which I already use, instead of having to learn
>>>lisp. I've found that
>>>extremely handy for patching instruments and scores
>>>when I'm going to
>>>make a similar change to a whole wack of files or
>>>sections.
>>>
>>>What does everyone else use?
>>>
>>>Iain
>>>
>>>
>>>Michael Gogins wrote:
>>>
>>>>Scitex is an excellent choice, more intuitive than
>>>
>>>Emacs yet quite functional.
>>>
>>>>Regards,
>>>>Mike
>>>>
>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>From: Iain Duncan <iainduncan@...>
>>>>Sent: Jul 16, 2005 4:47 PM
>>>>To: "Making electronic dance music with csound."
>>>
>>><csoundtekno@...>
>>>
>>>>Subject: Re: [CsndTek] wordpad
>>>>
>>>>James, it is well worth the time learning gvim or
>>>
>>>emacs. Just try and
>>>
>>>>learn a few new features every week, and soon
>>>
>>>you'll be editing scores
>>>
>>>>and instruments several times as efficiently! =)
>>>>
>>>>Iain
>>>>
>>>>James Cairney wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Hi
>>>>>
>>>>>Does anyone know if there is a program like
>>>
>>>wordpad with numbered rows.
>>>
>>>>>I heard somewhere that there is.  This would make
>>>
>>>it easier for when I
>>>
>>>>>get an error message for line 563!
>>>>>
>>>>>Thanks in advance
>>>>>
>>>>>James
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>_______________________________________________
>>>>>csoundtekno mailing list
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RE: wordpad

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Mike,

Thanks very much for that.  I'll go check it out now.  I'm trying to learn
python at the moment, not quite sure why but there ya go.  It's good to keep
on learning new things I guess.

Rich

-----Original Message-----
From: csoundtekno-bounces@...
[mailto:csoundtekno-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Michael Gogins
Sent: 19 July 2005 15:06
To: Making electronic dance music with csound.
Subject: RE: [CsndTek] wordpad

Sorry, my mistake. It is scintilla, or to be really precise SciTE, not
scitex:

http://www.scintilla.org/SciTE.html

This is better than emacs for lots of things especially if you are used to
Windows style key bindings, and of course takes up much much less room than
emacs. What is lacking is source level debugging.

Regards,
Mike





-----Original Message-----
From: Richard Burford <richyburford@...>
Sent: Jul 19, 2005 9:05 AM
To: "'Making electronic dance music with csound.'" <csoundtekno@...>
Subject: RE: [CsndTek] wordpad

I did that already man!

I could not find anything but printer and graphics stuff for Scitex which I
assume, perhaps incorrectly, is unrelated to wordpad.

Gvim is a linux based text editor for programming with highlighted text
colours etc??

Rich

-----Original Message-----
From: csoundtekno-bounces@...
[mailto:csoundtekno-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Michael Gogins
Sent: 19 July 2005 13:32
To: Making electronic dance music with csound.
Subject: Re: [CsndTek] wordpad

Google.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard Burford" <richyburford@...>
To: "'Making electronic dance music with csound.'" <csoundtekno@...>
Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2005 7:09 AM
Subject: RE: [CsndTek] wordpad


> What are Scitex and gvim?
>
> Rich
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: csoundtekno-bounces@...
> [mailto:csoundtekno-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Iain Duncan
> Sent: 18 July 2005 20:58
> To: Making electronic dance music with csound.
> Subject: Re: [CsndTek] wordpad
>
>> blue. It's great, and it's got looping options, which
>> makes it more friendly to techno/contemporary music
>> development.
>
> Yeah, Steven's stuff is very cool. My long range plan is to streamline
> all my python composition tools, rewrite my user interface stuff in
> C/C++ so as to be able to use those languages for large code management,
> and then work on a way to integrate them with something like blue.
> That'll be a ways a way though. ; )
>
> Iain
>
>
>> --- Iain Duncan <iainduncan@...> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Personally, I'm into gvim. It's really easy to
>>>script gvim using Python,
>>>which I already use, instead of having to learn
>>>lisp. I've found that
>>>extremely handy for patching instruments and scores
>>>when I'm going to
>>>make a similar change to a whole wack of files or
>>>sections.
>>>
>>>What does everyone else use?
>>>
>>>Iain
>>>
>>>
>>>Michael Gogins wrote:
>>>
>>>>Scitex is an excellent choice, more intuitive than
>>>
>>>Emacs yet quite functional.
>>>
>>>>Regards,
>>>>Mike
>>>>
>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>From: Iain Duncan <iainduncan@...>
>>>>Sent: Jul 16, 2005 4:47 PM
>>>>To: "Making electronic dance music with csound."
>>>
>>><csoundtekno@...>
>>>
>>>>Subject: Re: [CsndTek] wordpad
>>>>
>>>>James, it is well worth the time learning gvim or
>>>
>>>emacs. Just try and
>>>
>>>>learn a few new features every week, and soon
>>>
>>>you'll be editing scores
>>>
>>>>and instruments several times as efficiently! =)
>>>>
>>>>Iain
>>>>
>>>>James Cairney wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Hi
>>>>>
>>>>>Does anyone know if there is a program like
>>>
>>>wordpad with numbered rows.
>>>
>>>>>I heard somewhere that there is.  This would make
>>>
>>>it easier for when I
>>>
>>>>>get an error message for line 563!
>>>>>
>>>>>Thanks in advance
>>>>>
>>>>>James
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>_______________________________________________
>>>>>csoundtekno mailing list
>>>>>csoundtekno@...
>>>>>
>>>>>Subscribe, unsubscribe, change mailing list
>>>
>>>options:
>>>
>>>>>http://plot.bek.no/mailman/listinfo/csoundtekno
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>>>>
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Re: wordpad

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Python is well worth learning, you'll find eleventy billion uses for it
once you know it. Working in csound, you will find yourself doing a lot
with text, and working with a lot of small text files from the command
line. I use python tons to automate tasks that are otherwise low points
of working with csound. Write a python script to do it for you and
attach it to a key binding from gvim, and suddenly it's a pleasure! In
addition, Mike has added python to csound itself for doing algorythmic
composition, the new API ( of which Mike is one of designers ) makes it
fairly easy to control csound from a python script, and gvim can embed
python as well, meaning you can write python functions in gvim that both
control gvim and hack on text. I made a whole bunch of them that turn my
gvim station into a cross between a tracker and a spreadsheet for
editing my step-sequence score files. Most useful for me are all the
text hacking functions, regular expressions, and directory and file i/o.

As for editors, gvim is a gui based version of vim, the big unix editor.
It works on all platforms, and on windows it can even be used with a
bunch of windows key strokes. The main difference is that gvim is modal,
and emacs isn't. You should probably try both and pick whichever you
like. John Ffitch and Stephane are big emacsers, Istvan Varga is a vi
freak, so there's no one answer. Those guys have all added coloured
syntax highlighting for csound to the editors, which sure makes editing
and debugging csound nicer.

If I were giving advice to someone wanting to do what I'm doing now,
what I would do differently is:

- learn linux sooner
- learn gvim ( really learn it ) sooner
- learn python sooner
- learn regular expressions sooner
- start making some scripts combining the above for the hell of it

I'm nutty busy this week so I don't have much time to do documentation,
but I could stick up some of the example python scripts and gvim/python
scripts I use if you want to see what can be done with them.

Hope that is useful!
Iain

Richard Burford wrote:

> Mike,
>
> Thanks very much for that.  I'll go check it out now.  I'm trying to learn
> python at the moment, not quite sure why but there ya go.  It's good to keep
> on learning new things I guess.
>
> Rich
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: csoundtekno-bounces@...
> [mailto:csoundtekno-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Michael Gogins
> Sent: 19 July 2005 15:06
> To: Making electronic dance music with csound.
> Subject: RE: [CsndTek] wordpad
>
> Sorry, my mistake. It is scintilla, or to be really precise SciTE, not
> scitex:
>
> http://www.scintilla.org/SciTE.html
>
> This is better than emacs for lots of things especially if you are used to
> Windows style key bindings, and of course takes up much much less room than
> emacs. What is lacking is source level debugging.
>
> Regards,
> Mike
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Richard Burford <richyburford@...>
> Sent: Jul 19, 2005 9:05 AM
> To: "'Making electronic dance music with csound.'" <csoundtekno@...>
> Subject: RE: [CsndTek] wordpad
>
> I did that already man!
>
> I could not find anything but printer and graphics stuff for Scitex which I
> assume, perhaps incorrectly, is unrelated to wordpad.
>
> Gvim is a linux based text editor for programming with highlighted text
> colours etc??
>
> Rich
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: csoundtekno-bounces@...
> [mailto:csoundtekno-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Michael Gogins
> Sent: 19 July 2005 13:32
> To: Making electronic dance music with csound.
> Subject: Re: [CsndTek] wordpad
>
> Google.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Richard Burford" <richyburford@...>
> To: "'Making electronic dance music with csound.'" <csoundtekno@...>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2005 7:09 AM
> Subject: RE: [CsndTek] wordpad
>
>
>
>>What are Scitex and gvim?
>>
>>Rich
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: csoundtekno-bounces@...
>>[mailto:csoundtekno-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Iain Duncan
>>Sent: 18 July 2005 20:58
>>To: Making electronic dance music with csound.
>>Subject: Re: [CsndTek] wordpad
>>
>>
>>>blue. It's great, and it's got looping options, which
>>>makes it more friendly to techno/contemporary music
>>>development.
>>
>>Yeah, Steven's stuff is very cool. My long range plan is to streamline
>>all my python composition tools, rewrite my user interface stuff in
>>C/C++ so as to be able to use those languages for large code management,
>>and then work on a way to integrate them with something like blue.
>>That'll be a ways a way though. ; )
>>
>>Iain
>>
>>
>>
>>>--- Iain Duncan <iainduncan@...> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Personally, I'm into gvim. It's really easy to
>>>>script gvim using Python,
>>>>which I already use, instead of having to learn
>>>>lisp. I've found that
>>>>extremely handy for patching instruments and scores
>>>>when I'm going to
>>>>make a similar change to a whole wack of files or
>>>>sections.
>>>>
>>>>What does everyone else use?
>>>>
>>>>Iain
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Michael Gogins wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Scitex is an excellent choice, more intuitive than
>>>>
>>>>Emacs yet quite functional.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Regards,
>>>>>Mike
>>>>>
>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>From: Iain Duncan <iainduncan@...>
>>>>>Sent: Jul 16, 2005 4:47 PM
>>>>>To: "Making electronic dance music with csound."
>>>>
>>>><csoundtekno@...>
>>>>
>>>>>Subject: Re: [CsndTek] wordpad
>>>>>
>>>>>James, it is well worth the time learning gvim or
>>>>
>>>>emacs. Just try and
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>learn a few new features every week, and soon
>>>>
>>>>you'll be editing scores
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>and instruments several times as efficiently! =)
>>>>>
>>>>>Iain
>>>>>
>>>>>James Cairney wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Hi
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Does anyone know if there is a program like
>>>>
>>>>wordpad with numbered rows.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>I heard somewhere that there is.  This would make
>>>>
>>>>it easier for when I
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>get an error message for line 563!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Thanks in advance
>>>>>>
>>>>>>James
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>_______________________________________________
>>>>>>csoundtekno mailing list
>>>>>>csoundtekno@...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Subscribe, unsubscribe, change mailing list
>>>>
>>>>options:
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: wordpad

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Alternatively if you dislike the freedom of Perl, and do not like the
white space of python, I would suggest Ruby.

Ruby seems have a deeper grasp of OO (than python), as well it some aspect oriented
features.

If gvim is too dense you can also try emacs.

abram

On Tue, 19 Jul 2005, Iain Duncan wrote:

> Python is well worth learning, you'll find eleventy billion uses for it
> once you know it. Working in csound, you will find yourself doing a lot
> with text, and working with a lot of small text files from the command
... CUT ...
> Iain
>

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Re: wordpad

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Thanks for all the help

>From: Iain Duncan <iainduncan@...>
>Reply-To: "Making electronic dance music with
>csound."<csoundtekno@...>
>To: "Making electronic dance music with csound." <csoundtekno@...>
>Subject: Re: [CsndTek] wordpad
>Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 12:08:12 -0700
>
>Python is well worth learning, you'll find eleventy billion uses for it
>once you know it. Working in csound, you will find yourself doing a lot
>with text, and working with a lot of small text files from the command
>line. I use python tons to automate tasks that are otherwise low points of
>working with csound. Write a python script to do it for you and attach it
>to a key binding from gvim, and suddenly it's a pleasure! In addition, Mike
>has added python to csound itself for doing algorythmic composition, the
>new API ( of which Mike is one of designers ) makes it fairly easy to
>control csound from a python script, and gvim can embed python as well,
>meaning you can write python functions in gvim that both control gvim and
>hack on text. I made a whole bunch of them that turn my gvim station into a
>cross between a tracker and a spreadsheet for editing my step-sequence
>score files. Most useful for me are all the text hacking functions, regular
>expressions, and directory and file i/o.
>
>As for editors, gvim is a gui based version of vim, the big unix editor. It
>works on all platforms, and on windows it can even be used with a bunch of
>windows key strokes. The main difference is that gvim is modal, and emacs
>isn't. You should probably try both and pick whichever you like. John
>Ffitch and Stephane are big emacsers, Istvan Varga is a vi freak, so
>there's no one answer. Those guys have all added coloured syntax
>highlighting for csound to the editors, which sure makes editing and
>debugging csound nicer.
>
>If I were giving advice to someone wanting to do what I'm doing now, what I
>would do differently is:
>
>- learn linux sooner
>- learn gvim ( really learn it ) sooner
>- learn python sooner
>- learn regular expressions sooner
>- start making some scripts combining the above for the hell of it
>
>I'm nutty busy this week so I don't have much time to do documentation, but
>I could stick up some of the example python scripts and gvim/python scripts
>I use if you want to see what can be done with them.
>
>Hope that is useful!
>Iain
>
>Richard Burford wrote:
>>Mike,
>>
>>Thanks very much for that.  I'll go check it out now.  I'm trying to learn
>>python at the moment, not quite sure why but there ya go.  It's good to
>>keep
>>on learning new things I guess.
>>
>>Rich
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: csoundtekno-bounces@...
>>[mailto:csoundtekno-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Michael Gogins
>>Sent: 19 July 2005 15:06
>>To: Making electronic dance music with csound.
>>Subject: RE: [CsndTek] wordpad
>>
>>Sorry, my mistake. It is scintilla, or to be really precise SciTE, not
>>scitex:
>>
>>http://www.scintilla.org/SciTE.html
>>
>>This is better than emacs for lots of things especially if you are used to
>>Windows style key bindings, and of course takes up much much less room
>>than
>>emacs. What is lacking is source level debugging.
>>
>>Regards,
>>Mike
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Richard Burford <richyburford@...>
>>Sent: Jul 19, 2005 9:05 AM
>>To: "'Making electronic dance music with csound.'"
>><csoundtekno@...>
>>Subject: RE: [CsndTek] wordpad
>>
>>I did that already man!
>>
>>I could not find anything but printer and graphics stuff for Scitex which
>>I
>>assume, perhaps incorrectly, is unrelated to wordpad.
>>
>>Gvim is a linux based text editor for programming with highlighted text
>>colours etc??
>>
>>Rich
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: csoundtekno-bounces@...
>>[mailto:csoundtekno-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Michael Gogins
>>Sent: 19 July 2005 13:32
>>To: Making electronic dance music with csound.
>>Subject: Re: [CsndTek] wordpad
>>
>>Google.
>>
>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Burford"
>><richyburford@...>
>>To: "'Making electronic dance music with csound.'"
>><csoundtekno@...>
>>Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2005 7:09 AM
>>Subject: RE: [CsndTek] wordpad
>>
>>
>>
>>>What are Scitex and gvim?
>>>
>>>Rich
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: csoundtekno-bounces@...
>>>[mailto:csoundtekno-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Iain Duncan
>>>Sent: 18 July 2005 20:58
>>>To: Making electronic dance music with csound.
>>>Subject: Re: [CsndTek] wordpad
>>>
>>>
>>>>blue. It's great, and it's got looping options, which
>>>>makes it more friendly to techno/contemporary music
>>>>development.
>>>
>>>Yeah, Steven's stuff is very cool. My long range plan is to streamline
>>>all my python composition tools, rewrite my user interface stuff in
>>>C/C++ so as to be able to use those languages for large code management,
>>>and then work on a way to integrate them with something like blue.
>>>That'll be a ways a way though. ; )
>>>
>>>Iain
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>--- Iain Duncan <iainduncan@...> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Personally, I'm into gvim. It's really easy to
>>>>>script gvim using Python,
>>>>>which I already use, instead of having to learn
>>>>>lisp. I've found that
>>>>>extremely handy for patching instruments and scores
>>>>>when I'm going to
>>>>>make a similar change to a whole wack of files or
>>>>>sections.
>>>>>
>>>>>What does everyone else use?
>>>>>
>>>>>Iain
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Michael Gogins wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Scitex is an excellent choice, more intuitive than
>>>>>
>>>>>Emacs yet quite functional.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Regards,
>>>>>>Mike
>>>>>>
>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>From: Iain Duncan <iainduncan@...>
>>>>>>Sent: Jul 16, 2005 4:47 PM
>>>>>>To: "Making electronic dance music with csound."
>>>>>
>>>>><csoundtekno@...>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Subject: Re: [CsndTek] wordpad
>>>>>>
>>>>>>James, it is well worth the time learning gvim or
>>>>>
>>>>>emacs. Just try and
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>learn a few new features every week, and soon
>>>>>
>>>>>you'll be editing scores
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>and instruments several times as efficiently! =)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Iain
>>>>>>
>>>>>>James Cairney wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Hi
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Does anyone know if there is a program like
>>>>>
>>>>>wordpad with numbered rows.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>I heard somewhere that there is.  This would make
>>>>>
>>>>>it easier for when I
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>get an error message for line 563!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Thanks in advance
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>James
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>_______________________________________________
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RE: wordpad

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Thanks for all the advice, I really appreciate it.  I haven't had much time
spare recently since I have just finished my degree and have been putting
together my CV and looking for positions to apply for.

I will revisit this advice in a few days when I have a little more time on
my hands.

Thanks again for your much appreciated help!

Richard

-----Original Message-----
From: csoundtekno-bounces@...
[mailto:csoundtekno-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Iain Duncan
Sent: 19 July 2005 20:08
To: Making electronic dance music with csound.
Subject: Re: [CsndTek] wordpad

Python is well worth learning, you'll find eleventy billion uses for it
once you know it. Working in csound, you will find yourself doing a lot
with text, and working with a lot of small text files from the command
line. I use python tons to automate tasks that are otherwise low points
of working with csound. Write a python script to do it for you and
attach it to a key binding from gvim, and suddenly it's a pleasure! In
addition, Mike has added python to csound itself for doing algorythmic
composition, the new API ( of which Mike is one of designers ) makes it
fairly easy to control csound from a python script, and gvim can embed
python as well, meaning you can write python functions in gvim that both
control gvim and hack on text. I made a whole bunch of them that turn my
gvim station into a cross between a tracker and a spreadsheet for
editing my step-sequence score files. Most useful for me are all the
text hacking functions, regular expressions, and directory and file i/o.

As for editors, gvim is a gui based version of vim, the big unix editor.
It works on all platforms, and on windows it can even be used with a
bunch of windows key strokes. The main difference is that gvim is modal,
and emacs isn't. You should probably try both and pick whichever you
like. John Ffitch and Stephane are big emacsers, Istvan Varga is a vi
freak, so there's no one answer. Those guys have all added coloured
syntax highlighting for csound to the editors, which sure makes editing
and debugging csound nicer.

If I were giving advice to someone wanting to do what I'm doing now,
what I would do differently is:

- learn linux sooner
- learn gvim ( really learn it ) sooner
- learn python sooner
- learn regular expressions sooner
- start making some scripts combining the above for the hell of it

I'm nutty busy this week so I don't have much time to do documentation,
but I could stick up some of the example python scripts and gvim/python
scripts I use if you want to see what can be done with them.

Hope that is useful!
Iain

Richard Burford wrote:
> Mike,
>
> Thanks very much for that.  I'll go check it out now.  I'm trying to learn
> python at the moment, not quite sure why but there ya go.  It's good to
keep

> on learning new things I guess.
>
> Rich
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: csoundtekno-bounces@...
> [mailto:csoundtekno-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Michael Gogins
> Sent: 19 July 2005 15:06
> To: Making electronic dance music with csound.
> Subject: RE: [CsndTek] wordpad
>
> Sorry, my mistake. It is scintilla, or to be really precise SciTE, not
> scitex:
>
> http://www.scintilla.org/SciTE.html
>
> This is better than emacs for lots of things especially if you are used to
> Windows style key bindings, and of course takes up much much less room
than

> emacs. What is lacking is source level debugging.
>
> Regards,
> Mike
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Richard Burford <richyburford@...>
> Sent: Jul 19, 2005 9:05 AM
> To: "'Making electronic dance music with csound.'"
<csoundtekno@...>
> Subject: RE: [CsndTek] wordpad
>
> I did that already man!
>
> I could not find anything but printer and graphics stuff for Scitex which
I

> assume, perhaps incorrectly, is unrelated to wordpad.
>
> Gvim is a linux based text editor for programming with highlighted text
> colours etc??
>
> Rich
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: csoundtekno-bounces@...
> [mailto:csoundtekno-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Michael Gogins
> Sent: 19 July 2005 13:32
> To: Making electronic dance music with csound.
> Subject: Re: [CsndTek] wordpad
>
> Google.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Richard Burford" <richyburford@...>
> To: "'Making electronic dance music with csound.'"
<csoundtekno@...>

> Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2005 7:09 AM
> Subject: RE: [CsndTek] wordpad
>
>
>
>>What are Scitex and gvim?
>>
>>Rich
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: csoundtekno-bounces@...
>>[mailto:csoundtekno-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Iain Duncan
>>Sent: 18 July 2005 20:58
>>To: Making electronic dance music with csound.
>>Subject: Re: [CsndTek] wordpad
>>
>>
>>>blue. It's great, and it's got looping options, which
>>>makes it more friendly to techno/contemporary music
>>>development.
>>
>>Yeah, Steven's stuff is very cool. My long range plan is to streamline
>>all my python composition tools, rewrite my user interface stuff in
>>C/C++ so as to be able to use those languages for large code management,
>>and then work on a way to integrate them with something like blue.
>>That'll be a ways a way though. ; )
>>
>>Iain
>>
>>
>>
>>>--- Iain Duncan <iainduncan@...> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Personally, I'm into gvim. It's really easy to
>>>>script gvim using Python,
>>>>which I already use, instead of having to learn
>>>>lisp. I've found that
>>>>extremely handy for patching instruments and scores
>>>>when I'm going to
>>>>make a similar change to a whole wack of files or
>>>>sections.
>>>>
>>>>What does everyone else use?
>>>>
>>>>Iain
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Michael Gogins wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Scitex is an excellent choice, more intuitive than
>>>>
>>>>Emacs yet quite functional.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Regards,
>>>>>Mike
>>>>>
>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>From: Iain Duncan <iainduncan@...>
>>>>>Sent: Jul 16, 2005 4:47 PM
>>>>>To: "Making electronic dance music with csound."
>>>>
>>>><csoundtekno@...>
>>>>
>>>>>Subject: Re: [CsndTek] wordpad
>>>>>
>>>>>James, it is well worth the time learning gvim or
>>>>
>>>>emacs. Just try and
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>learn a few new features every week, and soon
>>>>
>>>>you'll be editing scores
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>and instruments several times as efficiently! =)
>>>>>
>>>>>Iain
>>>>>
>>>>>James Cairney wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Hi
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Does anyone know if there is a program like
>>>>
>>>>wordpad with numbered rows.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>I heard somewhere that there is.  This would make
>>>>
>>>>it easier for when I
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>get an error message for line 563!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Thanks in advance
>>>>>>
>>>>>>James
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>_______________________________________________
>>>>>>csoundtekno mailing list
>>>>>>csoundtekno@...
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Phase Vocoder

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hello, jus trying to figure out Csounds Phase Vocoder...whats the deal with
the command line? do you place it in the advanced commandline options?
i keep getting the message that its not a valid UTIL name...like this


-->CSoundLib found.
-->Starting CsoundLib.
CsoundLib started with Command-line:
  "csound Macintosh HD:Users:agabourie:Desktop:2802.csd -b64 -odac -iadc -f
-m7 -U pvanal treefall2 treefall3 "
Using default language
0dBFS level = 32767.0
Csound Version 4.23f07 (Oct 30 2003)
-U  pvanal treefall2 treefall3 not a valid UTIL name
inactive allocs returned to freespace
end of score.   overall amps:      0.0
0 errors in performance
-->CsoundLib Terminated...
where treefall2 is the original file and treefall3 should be the
analysis...i've tried appending the appropriate file types to the end of the
names but always end up with the same result...
i'm sure its sumthin really simple but i dunno what... any suggestions?

thanks
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Re: Phase Vocoder

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looks like you are using maccsound.

all the analysis routines are done from the soundfile.
you do not need to specify any commandline.

1st open a soundfile in maccsound.
then select "pvanal" from the popup window.
default options should be fine, but if you want to change them
hit the left button [ pencil icon in the latest version ]
and a window will pop up to allow you to specify commandline flags.
hit the green arrow button to run the analysis

-m

On Fri, 22 Jul 2005, Adam Gabourie wrote:

> hello, jus trying to figure out Csounds Phase Vocoder...whats the deal with
> the command line? do you place it in the advanced commandline options?
> i keep getting the message that its not a valid UTIL name...like this
>
>
> -->CSoundLib found.
> -->Starting CsoundLib.
> CsoundLib started with Command-line:
> "csound Macintosh HD:Users:agabourie:Desktop:2802.csd -b64 -odac -iadc -f
> -m7 -U pvanal treefall2 treefall3 "
> Using default language
> 0dBFS level = 32767.0
> Csound Version 4.23f07 (Oct 30 2003)
> -U  pvanal treefall2 treefall3 not a valid UTIL name
> inactive allocs returned to freespace
> end of score.   overall amps:      0.0
> 0 errors in performance
> -->CsoundLib Terminated...
> where treefall2 is the original file and treefall3 should be the
> analysis...i've tried appending the appropriate file types to the end of the
> names but always end up with the same result...
> i'm sure its sumthin really simple but i dunno what... any suggestions?
>
> thanks
> phreshmint
>
>
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Thanks Re: Phase Vocoder

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you're the man,
thanks-
Adam


>From: "Matt J. Ingalls" <ingalls@...>
>Reply-To: "Making electronic dance music with
>csound."<csoundtekno@...>
>To: "Making electronic dance music with csound." <csoundtekno@...>
>Subject: Re: [CsndTek] Phase Vocoder
>Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 16:41:03 -0700 (PDT)
>
>
>looks like you are using maccsound.
>
>all the analysis routines are done from the soundfile.
>you do not need to specify any commandline.
>
>1st open a soundfile in maccsound.
>then select "pvanal" from the popup window.
>default options should be fine, but if you want to change them
>hit the left button [ pencil icon in the latest version ]
>and a window will pop up to allow you to specify commandline flags.
>hit the green arrow button to run the analysis
>
>-m
>
>On Fri, 22 Jul 2005, Adam Gabourie wrote:
>
>>hello, jus trying to figure out Csounds Phase Vocoder...whats the deal
>>with the command line? do you place it in the advanced commandline
>>options?
>>i keep getting the message that its not a valid UTIL name...like this
>>
>>
>>-->CSoundLib found.
>>-->Starting CsoundLib.
>>CsoundLib started with Command-line:
>>"csound Macintosh HD:Users:agabourie:Desktop:2802.csd -b64 -odac -iadc -f
>>-m7 -U pvanal treefall2 treefall3 "
>>Using default language
>>0dBFS level = 32767.0
>>Csound Version 4.23f07 (Oct 30 2003)
>>-U  pvanal treefall2 treefall3 not a valid UTIL name
>>inactive allocs returned to freespace
>>end of score.   overall amps:      0.0
>>0 errors in performance
>>-->CsoundLib Terminated...
>>where treefall2 is the original file and treefall3 should be the
>>analysis...i've tried appending the appropriate file types to the end of
>>the names but always end up with the same result...
>>i'm sure its sumthin really simple but i dunno what... any suggestions?
>>
>>thanks
>>phreshmint
>>
>>
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RE: wordpad

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hello, tryin to figure out the Granule Opcode, having difficulty reading in
soundfiles, for sum reason MacCsound keeps tellin me that its in an unknown
sound format even tho the file i'm trying to use was produced with Csound
minutes before...the instrument is almost a straight up copy of the chapter
1302.orc and score from the Csound book.
heres what it tells me when i run it...

-->CSoundLib found.
-->Starting CsoundLib.
CsoundLib started with Command-line:
  "csound /Users/agabourie/Desktop/TreeGranular.csd -A
-o/Users/agabourie/Desktop/TreeGranular.aif -b32768 -s -m7 -R "
Using default language
0dBFS level = 32767.0
Csound Version 4.23f12 (Mar  9 2005)
UnifiedCSD:  /Users/agabourie/Desktop/TreeGranular.csd
STARTING FILE
Creating orchestra
Creating /tmp/503330.orc (0x04cb1040)
Creating score
orchname:  /tmp/503330.orc
scorename: /tmp/503330.sco
orch compiler:
26 lines read
sorting score ...
        ... done
Csound Version 4.23f12 (Mar  9 2005)
midi channel 1 using instr 1302
0dBFS level = 32767.0
orch now loaded
audio buffered in 32768 sample-frame blocks
writing 131072-byte blks of shorts to
/Users/agabourie/Desktop/TreeGranular.aif
(AIFF)
SECTION 1:
ftable 1:
read PEAK data:
creation time: Sat Jul 23 19:26:38 2005
CH 1: peak = 0.622371 at sample 1012775: 22.9654 secs
CH 2: peak = 0.663412 at sample 188792: 4.2810 secs
treefall6y.aif: AIFF, 1146600 stereo samples, no looping
unknown sound format 269(0x10d)
inactive allocs returned to freespace
end of score.   overall amps:      0.0      0.0
           overall samples out of range:        0        0
0 errors in performance
peak CH 1: 0.000000  (written: 0.000000) at 0
peak CH 2: 0.000000  (written: 0.000000) at 0
0 131072-byte soundblks of shorts written to
/Users/agabourie/Desktop/TreeGranular.aif (AIFF)
-->CsoundLib Terminated...

i dunno whatsup with that but its driving me nuts...is it just .aif files
that it has trouble reading?
Adam


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